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EU: Nothing to see, move along

by Paul Wells on Friday, June 13, 2008 11:24am - 0 Comments

Well, this was almost certain to happen. After almost every national citizenry in Europe was denied a chance to vote on the new Lisbon treaty — a kind of stripped-down version of the European “Constitution” that was rejected a few years ago in referendums by the French, Dutch and others — the one electorate that did get a clear shot at the Lisbon treaty has rejected it.

We know what this was going to mean when it was a hypothetical — François Fillon, the French prime minister, said “there would be no Lisbon treaty” if the Irish reject it. But that’s intolerable to European leaders because they hate to have their handiwork ruined by mere citizens. Angela Merkel and Nicolas Sarkozy are to respond jointly soon. I’ll keep a transatlantic eye on things.

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  • http://mikeanddean.blogspot.com Dean P

    Hmmmmm…..shades of Charlottetown, anyone?

  • Paul Wells

    Indeed.

  • http://cork2toronto.blogspot.com Mark Dowling

    Conor O’Clery in the Washington Post:
    “The vote is a slap in the face for the French Government whose foreign minister Bernard Kouchner warned Ireland on Monday that it would be very troubling “that we would not be able to count on the Irish who counted a lot on Europe’s money.” Such comments, implying that an ungrateful Ireland would be cast adrift, sounded like bullying to many Irish voters.”

    Precisely. Imagine if Canadian provinces were told that they could not vote down a change to the national Constitution because they were net recipients of equalization.

  • http://arandomprocess.blogspot.com/ Andrew

    The electorate was presented with a complicated and difficult-to-understand initiative. Supporters assumed that it was such a good idea that the people would just follow along without paying close attention. Opponents filled in the gaps by framing it in misleading terms. The electorate reacted predictably. Are you paying attention, Mr. Carbon Tax?

    But more on point, the general mood in Europe seems to be away from integration — we have seen rejection of the constitution and the Lisbon treaty, and we have heard grumbling about the Euro, intra-EU immigration, and trade. A little bit of worry may be appropriate.

  • Wayne

    You know where the problem here is don’t you. It’s those pesky voters I mean leaving something up to them is just asking for trouble instead they should take a page from the Liberal Playbook and start setting up backroom deals and spread some serious coin around to various shady characters.

  • http://mikeanddean.blogspot.com Dean P

    Well, Wayne, that sort of sometimes is the point of having a representative democracy rather than a direct one.

    But do you have like a direct line to Tory talking points?

  • TobyornotToby

    Wayne do you have software that automatically generates a partisan spin for every topic?

  • http://cynicswithoutborders.blogspot.com Dan

    It’s a classic problem and it goes to heart of representative government – exclusively entrust elected representatives to govern on your behalf (one side of the continuum) or govern by referenda (the opposite side of said continuum).

    I have no doubt that a strong case can be made that something as fundamental as a constitution should be put before the citizens to have their say. At the same time, when you’re talking about the context of a federation like the EU or Canada, you are up against some pretty fundamental challenges in arriving at a consensus, and it gets no easier when the types of reforms/changes you want to make do not lack for complexity or detail and are marked by much negotiation, horse-trading and compromise.

    While I do not believe citizens are incapable of taking account of all of this and making an informed decision, I do think that not all citizens necessarily care enough to do so (and if changes to a constitution are so important as to be put forward in a referendum, one would expect more than 53% of the population to participate – that was not the case in the Irish vote).

    The progress of the European Coal and Steel Community into what is now the European Union was not always the product of popular approval. Politicians and bureaucrats have largely been the driving force behind it, and I’d say that on the whole it has been a successful enterprise.

    I would hesitate to criticize the seemingly undemocratic nature of the Lisbon treaty process when it was elected governments that launched it, and 14 elected assemblies that have ratified the treaty thus far.

  • madeyoulook

    Sorry, Dan, I call BS. Leave the laws to the elected, but: Constitutions MUST be difficult creatures to change. A wholesale surrender of sovereignty to Brussels had better be darn convincing for populations to accept it.

    “you are up against some pretty fundamental challenges in arriving at a consensus.” Well, good. Let’s hear the pretty convincing arguments in favour, then. What’s that, there aren’t any, or at least not enough? Well, then, off to the dustbin with you, we’ll stick with what we’ve got.

    I’ve seen tiny community organizations require a two-thirds vote from the membership before changing the By-Laws, and you’re cool with a sizable chunk of the developed world undergo massive upheaval on the say-so of mere politicians because, according to you, the “citizens don’t care enough” to get informed? The elitism reeks…

  • Ross Trusler

    Only 1 in 300 people in the EU voted on the Lisbon treaty. The small margin of victory, only 100,000 votes, has decided the future of 450 million people. It’s an awesome spectacle to behold.

    Rather than Charlottetown, the vote magnification is more reminiscent of the 1995 referendum, where a margin of only 20,000 Quebecers determined the fate of 30 million Canadians.

    Both of these events happened because single members of a federation are allowed to speak to the fate of the entire federation.

    It’s clearly unhealthy for the Canadian federation, which at times is nearly ungovernable with only 10 provinces, much less the EU, with 25, er 27 member states.

    Coincidentally, the reforms of the Lisbon treaty were in part aimed at ending the tyranny of the minority, or the one.

  • sf

    “Only 1 in 300 people in the EU voted on the Lisbon treaty. The small margin of victory, only 100,000 votes, has decided the future of 450 million people. It’s an awesome spectacle to behold.”

    The obvious solution would be to let everyone vote, and them count them all.

    Not let each country vote individually where each has a veto (and so nothing could ever be agreed upon), and not shut the voters out competely by ratifying treaties while denying the mere citizenry a vote. Just count every vote equally. How simple and fair is that?

    But that would be democratic.

  • Paul Wells

    “Democratic” is one of those tricky words that sound absolute but aren’t necessarily. Here’s an idea I’m more comfortable with: let each member state ratify the treaty by its own rules. Since even the most ardent Europhiles (and frankly, I’m a pretty big fan of the EU) do not claim that the EU is, today, a federation, then national sovereignty should, at a minimum, permit national decisions about ratification.
    In Ireland, governments have *no choice* but to put any change to the country’s national constitution to a referendum. This makes sense given the country’s national history: it was a colony of England for a long time and it had too many decisions made for it at Westminster. This is the sort of memory that sinks into bones. It is glib for, say, Jeff Simpson not to give that a second’s thought.
    Now. Other democratically-elected governments are free to put their rule changes to less onerous tests. Ireland’s never was. What is really, really galling, *especially* to those of us who kind of like the EU, is to see the Irish told before a referendum that they hold the treaty’s fate in their hands, and afterward that their vote (read: their silly, incorrect vote) cannot be allowed to change things.
    I’m kind of speechless to read Simpson’s column this morning, in which he says the Irish voted the wrong way on Europe’s “new constitution.” European leaders made a great show of presenting a shorter, simpler Lisbon treaty that was supposed to be ratifiable in most countries by simple parliamentary vote because it *wasn’t* a constitution.
    Voters do not like to be swindled, especially when it is done repeatedly and clumsily.

  • Jack Mitchell

    All well and good – “Don’t patronise the voters” etc. – but even without being bossed around they still would have rejected it. This was a xenophobic vote. The Irish are not used to immigrants, and it’s only the last 12 years of Celtic Tigerdom that have brought any. If they formerly looked to Europe as an ally against Euroskeptic England, they now seem to think themselves strong enough to back away – Ireland for the Irish.

    Ungrateful? Who cares. Their prosperity has depended on being fully EU-integrated anglophones; let them try and make it on their own. If they succeed, great; if they fail, they’ll just have to come knocking on Brussels’ door in 10 years’ time.

  • Paul Wells

    Yeah but yeah but. Didn’t France reject a major European treaty — some might even call it a constitution — in a referendum three years ago? That felt xenophobic in places too (Turkey was on a lot of campaign posters, even though it had nothing to do with the question at hand). But France didn’t get shunted off to some siding while the rest of Europe advanced without them. Sauce for the goose.

    At the risk of being tediously literal-minded: Irish membership of the EU wasn’t on the ballot this week. Ireland cannot have rejected “Europe.” The Irish were asked to ratify a major change to the status quo. They declined. The tut-tutting that has ensued is a bit rich.

    Now I just have to figure out how to write it in the style of Baudelaire.

  • Sophie

    I have a feeling that this should make a lot more sense than it does. Apt comparison, anyone? Anyone?

  • Paul Wells

    The Baudelaire thing’s a bit of an inside joke, Sophie.

  • Sophie

    Actually, I meant the EU-Ireland-Referendum thing. I didn’t notice your Baudelaire reference. I may be naive (give me a break, I’m 16)but I thought the EU was fairly well-functioning union.

  • Paul Wells

    Ah. It’s not as easy to help you then. I studied the EU formally for a year 15 years ago and I’ve been going back for refreshers ever since, and it still confuses me. The two big antagonistic schools of thought are:

    (1) The EU has kept Europe from total war for 60 years and made it an economic powerhouse, so any local vote against the Brussels consensus of the moment is proof of backward thinking;
    (2) The EU is a monstrous invasion of deadening anti-democratic bureaucracy into the rich and distinctive national character of its member states.

    Most English Canadian journalism on the topic reflects (2), coming as it does from British papers and journalists stationed in London. (There are British Europhiles, but most of them don’t work at newspapers.) I tend to be a Europhile, but can’t swallow all of argument (1). To me, the EU was one of the great ideas of the 20th century, but it’s legitimate just as far as it’s legitimate and not a step further. Jeff Simpson’s column this morning is a majestic example of argument (1). It’s like the Irish were told to pick heads or tails and, having picked tails, have been branded as heathen by their betters. The good news is, the Irish don’t normally let that sort of thing get them down.

    Here’s Jeff’s column:

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080613.cosimpson14/BNStory/specialComment/home

  • Sophie

    OKay. That makes significantly more sense now, thank you. This entire thing amuses me, as I jst went to check my ‘Canada and the World’ (yes, that is what all social studies textbooks are called from the time one is five on) and to hear them talk, the EU is Shangri-la. One more question- why is it that English Canadaian journalism and French Canadian journalism is so opposing on this issue? I searched Le Devoir’s website and found it takes your (1) as fact whilst a search of the National Post revealed mostly (2) statements. Are there reasons for this, or just coincidence?

  • Paul Wells

    The EU was invented by the French (well, that’s how they remember it) whereas the British were late, nervous and not entirely welcome arrivals. In his book “Postwar,” Tony Judt points out that the three negotiators of the very early postwar European treaties — the French Schuman, the German Adenauer and the Italian Gasperi — had important things in common. They had all been born in regions of their countries that had, on occasion, been annexed by foreign armies (so they didn’t have rock-solid national loyalties); they spoke German when they met, partly because of the annexing-army thing; and they were all Catholics. That did not go unnoticed by the Brits, who at first saw this whole European unification business as a Catholic plot.

  • http://cork2toronto.blogspot.com Mark Dowling

    Specifically, the necessity for Ireland to hold referendums on EU treaties stems from the Irish Supreme Court decision in Crotty vs An Taoiseach (1987, 3-2 decision) which declared that the government cannot transfer competence in foreign policy without popular consent.

    If Lisbon had not included foreign policy matters it might have been possible to ratify in Parliament but the Eurocracy seems interested in little else lately, despite their repeated failures to act in concert in places like the Balkans.

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