UPDATED: Tory tricksters nearly pull off cunning plan … but not quite. (Sorry, Ryan.)

UPDATED – NEW STUFF IN BOLD…
The eagle-eyed KNB gets full credit for noticing

by kadyomalley on Tuesday, June 17, 2008 2:11pm - 0 Comments

UPDATED – NEW STUFF IN BOLD

The eagle-eyed KNB gets full credit for noticing that there were actually four committees dealing with anti-carbon tax motions today: Agriculture, Natural Resources, Transport and Finance. So far, the results have been — somewhat mixed, shall we say.

As noted previously, the motion at Agriculture did eventually pass, but only after it was amended into a neutral-sounding call for a study into the possible impact of a carbon tax on farmers, rather than the categorical condemnation originally proposed by the Conservatives. (See original post for important update.)

At roughly the same time that the Agriculture committee was performing radical surgery on the above motion, Bradley Trost brought an even more transparent proposal forward at Natural Resources, which – uh, yeah, even the most distracted or easily confused Liberal probably wasn’t going to fall for this one, guys:

That the Committee report the following to the House at the earliest opportunity:
A carbon tax is a trick; it will raise the price of everything, including food, electricity, home heating and gas at the pumps; it will devastate young families, seniors and people on a fixed income; destroy jobs in this time of global economic uncertainty, have a negative impact on Canada’s traditional industries like forestry and will eliminate jobs; the Committee recommends, therefore, that the federal government reject any plans for new carbon taxes.

According to post-meeting gossip, the Conservatives wound up filibustering the motion after it became obvious that it wasn’t going to pass without amendment.

UPDATE: ITQ has been told (with no small amount of malicious glee) that Trost, realizing too late that the motion was so over the top as to resemble a parody of itself, attempted to amend his own motion to make it slightly less ridiculous, but was gently advised by the chair that, uh, you can’t do that.

The NDP’s Catherine Bell then moved an amendment that would have basically turned the original motion upside down and inside out – and into something the opposition parties, at least, might be able to support, but sadly, it was ruled out of order since it would have altered the very legislative DNA of the Trost motion. Rather than see his proposal defeated, Trost and his Conservative colleagues then ran down the clock.

The full text of the Bell amendment:

That this committee recognizes that we are living in a world where carbon must be constrained and priced, and further recognizes that the rising price of gas and energy impacts middle and lower income Canadians and makes life less affordable, therefore the committee recommends that the government put a price on carbon based on the polluter pay principle and invest in programs and develops innovative technologies to help Canadians reduce their carbon footprint and their energy bills.

Meanwhile, the anti-carbon tax motion tabled at the Finance committee turned up in the minutes from last Thursday’s meeting. Not surprisingly, it was resoundingly defeated, with all opposition parties voting against it:

Dean Del Mastro moved, — That the Committee adopt the following report and that the Chair be instructed to present it to the House at the earliest opportunity:

The Canadian Federation of Independent Business has noted that discussions of carbon taxes cause great nervousness among entrepreneurs, particularly at a time where firms are struggling to adapt to the pressure of rising energy and other input costs.

The Committee therefore recommends that the government reject any plans for additional fuel or carbon taxes.” .

The question was put on the motion and it was negatived on the following recorded division:YEAS: Dean Del Mastro, Rick Dykstra, Ted Menzies, Mike Wallace — 4; NAYS: Paul Crête, Martha Hall Findlay, John McKay, Massimo Pacetti, Louis Plamondon, Garth Turner — 6.

As for Finance and Transport, I haven’t been able to track down the results yet, but I’ll update this post as soon as I find out what went down.

UPDATE: Still no sign of the Transport motion, but the minutes for the last two meetings aren’t up yet. I’ll keep checking until we’ve got the full set of doomed gambits.

Oh, and Conservatives? Ten out of ten for style; minus several million for lack of contingency plan. Really, you can’t just assume that Plan A will go off without a hitch. In fact, at this point, I’m wondering what you could possibly be thinking to assume that even plans B through D would be sufficient, what with the way things keep going pear-shaped.

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  • Paul Wells

    I like how the motion itemizes things whose price will rise, after saying the price of “everything” will rise.

    I’m worried that young families will be devastated, though. I didn’t realize a Permanent Tax on Everything would devastate young families. That changes everything.

  • Paul Wells

    When I say it changes “everything,” I mean it changes everything including food, electricity, home heating and gas at the pumps.

  • beaker

  • dan in van

    Unfortunately, the price of doing ‘nothing’ also will drill young families et al. Just in a much. slower. and. most. likely. painful. manner.
    But either way, the Big Oil bunch will repaper their walk-in closets with gold leaf scooby-doos.

  • Scott M.

    Gold-leaf scooby-doos! Wow! Where do I get one?

  • http://economics.about.com Mike Moffatt

    “I like how the motion itemizes things whose price will rise, after saying the price of “everything” will rise.”

    Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon.

    — Milton Friedman, A Monetary History of the United States 1867-1960 (1963)

    I find it fascinating that the Tories are continually trying to surpass Naomi Klein in discrediting Friedman’s legacy.

  • Mike T.

    AND THEIR PLAN WOULD HAVE WORKED IF NOT FOR YOU MEDDLING KIDS!!

  • Paul Wells

    Jinkies. It’s Mr. Jenkins, the gardener.

  • http://liberal-arts-and-minds.blogspot.com/ knb

    “I like how the motion itemizes things whose price will rise, after saying the price of “everything” will rise.”

    One persons everything is another’s gotcha!

    (Thanks for the link Kady.)

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  • Ted Williams

    The Conservatives must have some poll data that supports this carbon tax idea- otherwise they wouldn’t be fighting so hard against it.

  • dan in van

    …or wasting what was supposedly precious Parliamentary time on dweebish constructs aimed at nothing more than pillaring a still-unseen policy plank.
    Where’s Peter van BaLOANey’s outrage now?

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  • Sophie

    Ah, but it’s a dweebish construct that makes the Liberals look bad. PVL is okay with those.

  • Sophie

    Ah, but it’s a dweebish construct that makes the Liberals look bad. PVL is okay with those.

  • Brian

    Good on inspector Kady for unearthing this scandalous language. I can’t wait for her to write a post about the missing $100 million in taxpayers money that was systematically funneled to Liberal bagmen. I often wonder how many affordable houses we could build or how many more meals we could provide the homeless with the 40 million still missing?

    Hopefully this expose will come out after Kady reaches her goal of breaking Linda McQuaig’s record for most anti-conservative articles ever written.

  • dan in van

    Brian raises a good point. Let’s take time to forget that the CONs are under investigation of trying to CHEAT democracy by allegedly using systematic transfers that would then reward them with taxpayers’ money for their supposed fraud. We can also forget that they may have offered a BRIBE of a dying Mp for his vote. They’ve also been ACCUSED of interfering in a foreign election by spreading salacious rumours. Oh and let’s forget for a moment their apparent FAILURE to protect secret government documents. It’s all just old busybodies at work.
    But we know that the RCMP’s new head chief is working vigilantly at answering Brian’s question, oh, by the time the next election campaign begins.

  • Brian

    Still waiting for Dan to figure out how many cans of soup we could buy homeless people with the 40 million that remains in Liberal bank accounts.

    “allegedly using systematic transfers”, “may have bribed”, “accused of interfering”

    You’ll notice all of your scandals are missing a key ingredient: proof (hence your need to preface everything with weasel adjectives)

    For someone who likes to trot out the “quit using conservative speaking notes” line, you should note that every one of your scandals is based directly on information and the allegations from the Liberal Party.

    On the other hand, the RCMP, Auditor General and a Commission of Inquiry have already concluded that the Liberal Party of Canada is guilty of criminality.

    Bonus points if you google the words “Francois Beaudoin + Chretien + Corruption”

  • dan in van

    CON creativity at its most hyperbolic, but back to the topic.
    Perhaps Sparrow has a staircase painted on his computer that he can scamper down with his emails in hand.

  • http://www.macleans.ca Kady O’Malley

    Just a quick note: Neither a commission of inquiry, or the Auditor General, is empowered to make any formal conclusions on criminal wrongdoings. If evidence that seems to lead in that direction is uncovered over the course of an audit, review or study, it is either referred to the RCMP directly (in the case of the AG), or can become the subject of a recommendation that the government do the same (in an inquiry). I know Brian would want to be accurate.

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