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Mr. Dion has a plan

by Paul Wells on Thursday, July 24, 2008 2:58pm - 0 Comments

From this week’s print edition: my column is built around an interview with Stéphane Dion. I have spent much of the past four months writing more about Stephen Harper than Boswell did about Johnson, so I was happy for a chance to concentrate on the other guy. An excerpt:

“The Conservatives call it Stéphane Dion’s Permanent Tax On Everything. Dion had detailed replies to every question I put to him. He quoted the chief statistician of Norway and economists like Jack Mintz. The danger, during a campaign, may be that Permanent Tax On Everything fits onto a postcard, whereas the chief statistician of Norway would face a tight squeeze.”

As always, there was stuff in the interview that didn’t make it into the final column. I asked Dion about whether he wants Elizabeth May to take part in televised debates; he said he sure does. But others, especially the Conservatives, oppose that because May’s bottom line is that Dion should be the next prime minister instead of Harper, I said. So you’ll have two party leaders onstage who want the Liberal to be prime minister. “That’s her right in a democracy,” he said. “If Jack Layton reaches the same conclusion, we’re not going to bar him from the debates, are we?”

Ah. But is May’s participation a pre-condition of Dion’s? “No. I want to be there.”

I should note that the interview, like almost every conversation I’ve had with Dion over 13 years, took place in French, so I could be the one struggling with accent and vocabulary challenges. Here’s how it all turned out.

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  • http://secondthots.blogspot.com Dennis (Second Thots)

    Yeah, Mr. Dion has a plan. He wants to try and get through the summer without everyone talking about his hapless tenure as leader. So far, so good.

  • Jack Mitchell

    What a good interview. And a reminder why bilingual reporters are so important. If it was a bit weird to see Dion quoted in grammatical sentences, it only reminds me of how the press corps has seemed to take a rather malignant pleasure in literally transcribing M. Dion in English. Bravo Maclean’s.

  • JK

    My biggest critism of Wells…

    Is the chandler bing shirt he was wearing on the Brooooooodcast, just before it ended for the season. lol.

  • Paul Wells

    Oh come on, JK, that’s a great shirt.

  • Ben Hicks

    I can see how May being Dion’s cheerleeder in debates could work to his advantage, but that’s assuming she can stay on message. This is the politician who decried Canadian soldiers for their “christian crusader heititage.” She could prove an easy target for Conservative attack dogs and a needless liabilty for Dion.

  • Mike G

    I’d like to see more than 900 words out of this, if you can do that at some point.

    Also, for jwl & others: I’m just a maudit anglophone at heart, but I find Dion comes off as very intelligent and professorial in the (admittedly few) French interviews I’ve seen him in. Eloquent, well-stated sentences, etc. That works for some people, not for others, just like it would if you sounded like a professor in English.

    Or, you know, if you sounded like the former Director of a Human Rights Policy research center.

  • http://secondthots.blogspot.com Dennis (Second Thots)

    To change tack somewhat, does Mr. Dion have a plan, or does he have a draft of a plan that is subject to editing from his caucus?

  • Sandi

    I can’t remember the shirt so it couldn’t have been all that bad. If it was, it would be implanted in the memory bank like Harper’s awful leather cowboy vest

  • Paul Wells

    Dennis raises an important point. I believe no prime minister has ever amended a plan before, and Dion would be setting a dangerous precedent by doing so. Harper’s close consultation with the provinces in implementing an equalization policy that perfectly matched his campaign promises; his steadfast refusal to tax income trusts; and the health-care wait times guarantee that all Canadians enjoy today are only a few of the ways he has led by example in the careful implementation of sacred election promises. I absolutely agree that if you want a prime minister who will not be swayed by caucus suggestions, Dion is the wrong guy to vote for.

  • Mike T.

    …and his heartfelt insistence that the only issue on softwood lumber was “enforcement”, and that special envoys would be appointed who would recover every cent Canada was owed.

  • http://secondthots.blogspot.com Dennis (Second Thots)

    So, Dion has already changed his plan? Is that what you’re saying? I’m just trying to figure out what policy we’re actually supposed to be discussing here.

    Does it have a tariff or not? Does it have an income tax cut or not?

    Which parts of it are going to be edited by whom and when?

    Will the caucus get back to us tomorrow? I’m confused.

  • Paul Wells

    Dennis, in a less tongue in cheek vein, your comment has a bad link in it. Please feel free to post the link you meant to post — to your blog, I presume?

  • Mike T.

    On an unrelated note, will there be comments for the current Barbara Amiel piece?

    please please please please please please please please?

  • http://secondthots.blogspot.com Dennis (Second Thots)

    Shoot. Cutting and pasting the proper url would have been nice, eh?

    No, this is the article I was trying to link to (which, yes, I mention on my blog. lol):

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080725.wdion25/BNStory/National/home

  • http://www.todaysautonews.com jwl

    Dennis I was wondering if Dion planned to somehow implement the carbon tariff on Canada because we are one the worst countries in the world as far as carbon emissions are concerned.

    As well, if he Dion implements the tariff on Chinese goods, the prices of all that cheap tat we get will go up. How will that help Dion’s poverty plan?

  • Scott M.

    It does smack of protectionism a bit. That being said, tariffs (generally) don’t result in major cost increases. I would be surprised if that $20 DVD player goes up more than $0.50.

    It all depends on the rate. I guess the idea is to make a level playing field for companies producing products in Canada. Seeing as the carbon tax, at least for the first 4 years, is very small, I would expect the tariffs would be equally small.

  • http://www.wernerpatels.com Werner Patels

    I’ll answer the initial question about Dion’s French, based on what my wife and in-laws (natives from Québec City) tell me all the time: Dion’s French is unacceptable to real true-blue Quebeckers. It’s not that it’s “bad”, but people simply don’t relate to his version of French.

  • http://www.wernerpatels.com Werner Patels

    As for the carbon tariffs, clearly the most insane ideas we’ve heard in a very long time in this country.

    Michael Hart, a professor, calls Dion’s ideas on that “bafflegab” and even “crazy”.

    Dion, it seems, wants to start a “World Trade War”.

  • http://jasoncherniak.com Jason Cherniak

    Good article, although I would have liked more.

    I think you (and other media) are making a mistake when you talk about the “permanent tax on everything”. I don’t think anybody outside Ottawa other than close political observers have heard that. “Green Shift” and “Carbon Tax” are the only lines that the average person I know seems to remember.

    As for the guy from Norway, that doesn’t need to be on a card. That is just for the media and third-party organizations to hear. Once they are convinced, most people will just trust their judgement in the resulting reports and endorsements.

  • Wayne

    I am afraid you are very mistaken there Jason : I just received an email from my parents who live in Grand Forks BC : (you don’t get much more out of the way and rural than this place) and the community is fuming mad and very busy organizing AXE The Tax protests and calling in their political markers as it has quite a few NDP supporters in that area judging from what I hear both Dion and Campbell (Premier BC) and anything with a title Liberal would do better to hide for awhile until emotions cool off!

  • marlene stobbart

    Kyoto was about transferring our wealth,nothing less. Media concentration:Global warming/green/with Dion’s plan of tax by surcharge to pay into the Ottawa coffers re emission controls.Green is the IN motto these days – but when Dion’s plan hits the green dollars in ones wallet – that’s the real Hit!!
    No one questions the usage of the atom bomb, the plutonium and uranium, etc used these past many years as probably a major cause of Global warming. Scientist Stephen Hawking discounts most of the global hype. Could it not be the natural evolution of mother earth, as in past times? West has yet to forget the plunder by Ottawa. Never can it be forgotten how former Premier Lougheed fought to keep Alberta’s natural resources in 1981-82 re the new Constitution. As for Dion’s economic plan? The West hasn’t forgotten the last plunder re FIRA and the following disastrous economic consequences. Kyoto would have been the same – for all of Canada. Common sense should rule the day. Hopefully there is some within this governmental body.

  • http://www.wernerpatels.com Werner Patels

    Common sense in Canada is in extremely short supply — everywhere. You’re wishing for something almost impossible, Marlene, especially when politicians are concerned (doesn’t matter which party).

    But Dion and his recent plans really take the cake when it comes to having no common sense at all.

  • sbt

    “I guess the idea is to make a level playing field for companies producing products in Canada.”

    Well, if that is the idea then it doesn’t smack of protectionism a bit. It smacks of it alot. Why don’t we level the playing field for the cost of labour and other tax rates while we’re at it. Why should we only level the playing field for carbon emissions?

    The Liberals would be much better to argue that this a way of pressuring China, Brazil, India, Korea, etc. to actually do something about carbon emissions. The problem with that argument is that it assumes a Canada going it alone strategy would effect decisions in China or India (is Canada that significant of a trading partner?). If they want to go that way, they would be much better off in saying that they will negotiate with other nations who have moved to price carbon to develop a carbon tariff that is the same for all participating countries.

  • Brian

    Just when Dennis (second thots) figured he had Dion cornered, Paul Wells, Stephane’s knight in shining armour, comes to the rescue with the “Your Guy Too” defense.

    And we all lived happily ever after.

  • http://secondthots.blogspot.com Dennis (Second Thots)

    Well, the “Your Guy Too” argument doesn’t apply here for a number of reasons. Maybe my lack of proper link added to the confusion.

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