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Georgia/Russia: On the West's rhetoric

by Paul Wells on Thursday, August 14, 2008 10:50pm - 0 Comments

” I have staked my country’s fate on the West’s rhetoric about democracy and liberty.”

— Mikheil Saakashvili, in this morning’s Washington Post

But that’s precisely the problem, isn’t it? What’s killing Georgia today — besides hordes of Russian soldiers and irregulars — is Western rhetoric about democracy and liberty, and the reluctance or inability of assorted peddlers of that rhetoric to check it, now and then, against reality.

I’d like to start there, as I continue my discussion with Andrew Coyne about the tragic events in Georgia over the past week. (My column is here. Andrew’s response is here. (It’s written as a rebuttal, but Andrew didn’t need to read me to know how he felt about this war. We just agreed earlier in the week to roll out our conversation this way.) Valuable background and reporting by our colleague Michael Petrou is here.)

I essentially think Georgia should be left, with great regret, to its fate. Expressions of outrage are entirely appropriate. Little else is. Andrew disagrees. He writes:

The notion that we should treat this as a one-off — that we should, as my Maclean’s colleague Paul Wells blithely suggests, cut Georgia adrift, or at any rate those parts of Georgia now occupied by Russia and its secessionist clients — is not one shared by, for example, the leaders of Ukraine, Poland, or the Baltic countries, all of whom hurried to Tbilisi to demonstrate their solidarity.

Really? Is that all it takes? Then I’ll be happy to hurry to Tbilisi to stand on a platform too, just as soon as I renew the passport I’ve stupidly let lapse since I was there in December. Because — and here we get into this business of checking rhetoric against reality — standing on a platform is all Saakashvili’s colleagues did. And yet in theory they could do so much more.

Cursory online research suggests Poland, Ukraine and the Baltics count 340,000 armed-forces personnel among them. All those countries participated in the U.S.-led intervention in Iraq, so they have a demonstrated belief in “coalitions of the willing” in those cases where longstanding multilateral organizations can’t get the lead out. So if my blithe suggestion that Georgia be cut adrift is really “not one shared by” those leaders, then one presumes they’ll send their soldiers, and not just their own sternly photogenic faces, to Tbilisi post-haste.

I mean, surely that’s what they’ll do — if words have any meaning.

Why don’t the countries that, in Andrew’s eyes, get this menace do what countries normally do in the face of an existential threat? Two reasons. The first, at the risk of being a dreary realist when principle is at stake, is that their armies are already stretched pretty thin. And not only theirs. I met three general officers from the U.S. in Afghanistan last autumn. Dan K. McNeill, then commander of ISAF, was one of them. All three cheerfully admitted that one reason they can’t do everything they want in Afghanistan is because their colleagues in Iraq have first call on the Pentagon’s resources. If the Americans are substantially tied down combating buddy from Kirkuk and Qalat with his homemade bombs, how are they likely to do against the remnants of the Red Army? If Canada is straining to carry its load in Afghanistan, if the former Warsaw Pact countries have been shocked at the burden they carry in Iraq and Aghanistan, isn’t it a bit glib to envisage taking a vacation from the long twilight battle against Islamism for a side trip to the Caucasus?

Of course, at some point armies do fight, whether they have the bodies and resources or not. That is the point of desperation: the point when a threat becomes existential, rather than being amenable to vague comparisons to existential threats of the late 1930s. This isn’t that, which explains why Saakashvili’s five colleagues left Tbilisi after they hurried there, departing with variations, in five different languages, on “Let us know how it works out.”

That’s my second point. An existential threat to a country is, generally, an invasion by a superior army. An existential threat to an alliance is an attack on one of its members that calls into question its logic and its members’ commitment. The latter test is way, way easier to meet than the former, which is why countries are — or should be — wary of recklessly forming alliances. That would be your lesson of 1914. Andrew asks: “Isn’t the point of collective defence to make it clear to any potential aggressor that force will be met with force — so clear as to prevent the initial use of force from ever arising?” That’s one point, sure. I’d suggest that another point is that collective-defence alliances shouldn’t wander around freelancing. Here’s a handy chart.

COUNTRY………. IS IT IN NATO?

Georgia………….. No

Andrew wants to fix this chart by admitting Georgia and Ukraine into NATO forthwith. This is novel. I’m not sure what to make of it. It would help if somebody could produce the list of all the countries in the world that NATO is supposed to annex if somebody does something bad to them.

But let’s say we did extend NATO’s membership list into a live-fire war zone, an innovation which never occurred to the alliance’s founders. The Russians might well retreat. And if they didn’t? Stay and fight? Escalate all the way up to a nuclear exchange, if the Russians don’t stand down? That’s the kind of language Putin has used and so far he doesn’t often bluff. That’s why there is nothing blithe in my suggestion that NATO fight Putin if Russian tanks roll into Warsaw or Riga. It’s a terrifying prospect, and by the way it extends to Warsaw and Riga favours that NATO’s founders rightly calculated they couldn’t hazard.

But NATO will be no use to anyone, if that horrifying day ever comes, if by then it has already squandered its credibility by promising soldiers it can’t spare to countries that aren’t members.

Peter MacKay today cancelled joint naval exercises with Russia, and there is talk of booting Russia out of the G8. Sure. Fine. Expressions of outrage are entirely appropriate. They may even help, if Putin is less interested in pursuing this campaign than he seems to be. But Saakashvili cannot expect better than that. And it is desperately past time for somebody to tell him that, loud and clear.

That’s because Mikheil Saakashvili is the kind of guy who takes ‘maybe,’ and even ‘probably not,’ for ‘yes, absolutely.’ We know he was told by some (not all; sigh) in the Bush administration “not to engage Russia militarily,” but he did. We know that when John McCain said “We are all Georgians now,” Saakashvili promptly started urging McCain to move “from words to deeds.” We know he took U.S. humanitarian assistance as a decision to defend ports and bridges, which suggests a dangerous propensity to take wishes for reality.

This is the man who has staked his country’s fate on the West’s rhetoric about democracy and liberty — as he hears that rhetoric.

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  • David

    I would like to say this was the best article I have seen todate on this subject. What follows is not intended as a dissection of a responder’s post so much as points themselves. I have seen many articles, blogs and reports asking why things of following nature haven’t been undertaken by NATO, the US and the EU.

    MarkCh wrote of steps beyond rhetoric and diplomacy:

    Base missile interceptors in Poland and Czech Republic

    Move the main US military infrastructure in Europe from Germany to Poland

    Put US forces in other Russia-bordering states

    Ship weapons to Georgia

    US military provide humanitarian aid to Georgia

    Base US naval units in the Black Sea and the Baltic.

    There is a fair amount of reasoning while none of these would work.

    1)Base missile interceptors in Poland and Czech Republic

    Well so what? Poland and Czech republic are already members of NATO. Any attack on those countries will be the opening performance of the largest military engagement since WWII. In fact the US announced today that an agreement had been reached with Poland to do just that. Again so what? This doesn’t change the reality that if Russia invades Poland, it will be at war with NATO. In the same vein, Russia did not attack NATO and the near abroad that Russia has its eye on is not yet part of NATO. Those missle interceptor bases in Poland would no doubt help protect Poland from a Russian attack(possibly), but if Russia does attack them… we will all have a bigger issue. Side note on this, Russia potentialy could respond with putting interceptors ( or missles ) in Cuba. In terms of actual practicallity, the only missles folks are really afraid of in terms of Russia (ICBM’s ) would travel over the Pole and and an interceptor base in Poland would not have the range or kill factor required to neutralize them.

    Actual effectiveness: minimal
    Russian reaction: increased hostility

    2)Move the main US military infrastructure in Europe from Germany to Poland

    Two things. Firstly Germany would likely take huge issue with this. Those bases are long term leased. They create a lot of jobs and economic production. While it seems heartless to talk about money in the face of the suffering of Georgia, money does indeed make the world turn. The massive infrastructure required for these bases to operate is again, something that is not easily moved.

    Second, Moving your central command for all of Europe into first strike range of the very enemy you are likely to face is just unsound from a tactical and strategic level. Also, from the Russian point of view, this would be seen as a direct escalation against them militarily. So far Russia has not escalated militarily against NATO, against Georgia absolutely, against Western interests yes, but as pointed out by Mr Wells, Georgia is NOT part of NATO. Direct military escalation between NATO and Russia benefits no one.

    Actual effectiveness: Undermines command security.

    Russian reaction: Military Escalation

    3) Put US forces in other Russia-bordering states

    Where would these troops come from? How long would they have to stay there? Would this be another Korean DMZ? As discussed again by Mr Wells, there aren’t enough troops to do whats required in all aspects of America’s current engagements. Public support for going to another potential war zone would be a tough sell in the extreme. Further US military ( not NATO observers, peace keepers, or even Western democracy ) presence on Russia’s borders would just confirm what Russia has been saying all along, and would represent Russia being surrounded. This kind of saber rattling led to having massive mobilizations on borders in 1914. If Russia built up troops bordering Alaska, wouldn’t the US respond with troops in the area? US forces on Russian borders would just lead to more Russian forces in the area. Furthermore border countries like Ukraine have a large Russian population. American boots on the ground could likely cause internal dissent, something these fledgeling governments can ill afford.

    Actual effectiveness: Frozen conflict or military escalation,

    Russian reaction: Mobilization of troops, confirmation of encriclement theory.

    4) Ship weapons to Georgia

    The Georgian troops abandoned Gori without much resistance. Would better weapons have increased Russian losses, there is little doubt of that. Would it have changed the outcome, no it would not have. In addition, if American weapons started showing up in Gerogia, Russia would take the airport and blockade the ports quickly. The political fall out would be headlines reading ” US arms Georgia to proxy war against Russia”. A war that Georgia simply can’t win.

    Actual effectiveness: Limited due to state of Georgian forces

    Russian reaction: Increased Rhetoric on the world stage concerning Western expansionism.

    5) US military provide humanitarian aid to Georgia

    This has already started happening, but I don’t see how it will create change in the region.

    Actual effectiveness: Alleviating suffering in the region.

    Russian reaction : most likely none

    6)Base US naval units in the Black Sea and the Baltic.

    Base them where? The Russian fleet controls the Black Sea. This would be akin to the Russians setting up an fleet HQ in Cuba. Also Turkey controls what ships (military) enter and leave the Black Sea. While Turkey is in NATO, they do 24 billion dollars in trade a year with Russia and get much of their energy from Russia. Turkey is unlikely to allow a permanent naval base.

    NATO and the US should not do nothing. They should realign and redeploy in NATO countries and refrain from adding or even discussing membership of countries that have ongoing disputes. Those kinds of alliances lead to chain reaction consequences that start larger conflicts.

  • Sisyphus

    I really wish Spike and David would stop making sense. Really ruining the attitude around here.

  • Dot

    Maybe they have the updated version of Risk, not the one Kramer and Newman (and NATO) were using

    New scene.
    Kramer and Newman are on a subway car, the Risk board sits on their laps.

    Newman: Are you sure you know where the impound yard is?

    Kramer: Oh, stop stalling. Come on.

    Newman: I can’t think, there’s all this noise.

    Kramer: Or is it because I’ve built a stronghold around Greenland? I’ve driven
    you out of Western Europe and I’ve left you teetering on the brink of complete
    annihilation.

    Newman: I’m not beaten yet. I still have armies in the Ukraine.

    This comment perks up the ears of what appears to be a Russian immigrant.

    Kramer: Ha ha, the Ukraine. Do you know what the Ukraine is? It’s a sitting
    duck. A road apple, Newman. The Ukraine is weak. It’s feeble. I think it’s
    time to put the hurt on the Ukraine.

    Ukrainian: I come from Ukraine. You not say Ukraine weak.

    Kramer: Yeah, well we’re playing a game here, pal.

    Ukrainian: Ukraine is game to you?! Howbout I take your little board and smash
    it!!

    The Ukrainian pounds the game board, destroying it and sending army pieces
    flying.

  • Jack Mitchell

    Nice piece, Spike.

  • acg

    I like Spike.

  • http://colbycosh.com Colby Cosh

    Sure, nice piece except for the clownishly wrong part about Stalin “giving Ossetia to Georgia.” The Ossetes were judged to have performed much better than their neighbours during the Civil War and always enjoyed favour and protection from Moscow, particular during the war when other Central Asian minorites were subjected to genocide in all but name. Stalin (whose mother is thought to have been Ossetian ethnically) expanded North and South Ossetian borders at the expense of neighbouring countries and never Russified the place culturally or linguistically.

    Of course Ossetia was subject to occasional purges led by a Georgian-Mingrelian mafia, but then, that was the deal for the inhabitants of one-sixth of the Earth’s land area.

  • Jack Mitchell

    Whatever, the point being that the Ossetians have a better case for independence than the Albanians in Kosovo, having lived there (as the Alans) more or less since the dawn of time; there’s no particular reason why the Georgians should get to control South Ossetia. According to wikipedia, the Red Army set up the “South Ossetian Autonomous Province in 1921.” And it seems that everyone was happy with this autonomy until Saakashvili started beating the big drum.

    All this talk about Russia “invading” Georgia is a bit of a misnomer, IMHO. What they did is pursue the Georgian army as it retreated from Abkhazia and South Ossetia. They didn’t push on to Tblisi or occupy Georgia proper. They’ve announced (AFAIK) no plans to annex Georgia. The Coyne position is predicated on international boundaries being uniquely sacred; and while they’re of course extremely important, de fact independent autonomous regions are not therefore fair game.

  • hosertohoosier

    Jack,

    A few points.

    First off your notion that it is a misnomer to say that Russia is “invading” sort of ignores that just about every state recognizes Georgia’s sovereignty over Ossetia.

    As to the broader moral/legal argument, I think the Quebec reference case is actually a fantastic place to start when one deals with the tensions between the right of “national self-determination”, and the preservation of minority rights – both of which have to be cornerstones of any moral argument in a democratic world.

    Yes, the vast majority of South Ossetians wish they were Russians, as do a good proportion of Ukrainians, as Sudetenlanders wished they were German and as les Quebecois yearn for their own state, or nation, or some sort of muddle in-between.

    29% of South Ossetians are Georgians, who don’t exactly want to be a part of Russia, which is why Georgia didn’t stick around in the Soviet Union. Where the Quebec reference case comes in, is that it made the interesting point that BECAUSE Canada was a good liberal democracy Quebec had no inherent right to secede, unless that secession fit with the three pillars of Canada (the charter, democracy and federalism).

    But here’s the rub – South Ossetians want to join (and force their 29% Georgian population to join) undemocratic Russia instead of somewhat (and improving) democratic Georgia. Georgia does a far better job of protecting INDIVIDUAL rights than does Russia. The core of what makes liberal democracies not tyrannical isn’t that they have regular elections, it is that they have constitutions that place no government above the law. Georgia isn’t perfect, but if your choice is between sort of screwing the 66% Ossetian populace, or really really screwing the 29% Georgian populace, I would err to the other side.

    Nations are arbitrary constructs that offer no real claim to anything, except the fallacy that blood is history. Morally the best situation is that which best safeguards individual rights – it is clear that Georgia wins in that case – regardless of irrelevant historical debates. Those debates, incidentally, only lead to more debates – if Russia is legitimized by the national self-determination arguments brought up here, then isn’t Ossetia itself also divisible? Isn’t Russia?

    On the other hand, I don’t care much about the moral argumentation, and offer strong support for Paul Wells’ suggestion of “do nothing. Some people have argued that NATO’s credibility is on the line – rubbish. The real problem with NATO is similar to that faced by the US in Korea and Vietnam: NATO has not made clear what its core sphere of influence is.

    No real interests are at stake in Georgia – which could end this conflict today by surrendering Abkhazia and South Ossetia (combined population of 250,000 – so basically Windsor – and what Canadian wouldn’t want to give up Windsor to save our hides? God Windsor sucks).

    There might be some “prestige” loss, but prestige doesn’t get one very far. Based on prestige, the US was essentially licked in the Cold War during the Nixon and Carter presidencies – even as it significantly outperformed the Soviet economy. Moreover, it is hard to say that something damages NATO credibility if NATO never made a credible commitment to defend Georgia. NATO can still make a strong commitment to Poland, the Ukraine and so on.

    Probably my only novel argument to throw on the fire is that history is on our side. Putin’s resurgent Russia remains substantially weaker than the US, and even more weak considering that Putin’s biggest ally is Belarus. Russia’s population is shrinking, and, its economic recovery has been largely financed by rising oil revenues. Oil revenues that it is hard to see existing 50 years from now (both as alternative energy becomes more prevalent – and that can be with ethanol – and as rising oil prices drive more oil exploration).

    Russia itself is kind of a craphole. Male life expectancy is 59, and Russia is not a major player in any high tech industry – in spite of major soviet era investments in education and certain industries (eg. aerospace – where Canada beats Russia handily).

    So if history is not on Russia’s side, containment (and energy security) is a far better strategy for defeating the bear than is confrontation. Indeed, the one country that could pose an existential threat to North America in the near future is China – and the west may need Russia on our side to contain that impending threat.

  • Ossi

    >>>>>one could argue that the list of countries that feel threatened by possible Russian annexation includes “pretty much every neighbour of Russia from Baikal to Arkhangelsk”.<<<<<

    well, let me point out one only thing:

    if it is fair to say what you said, then it would be fair to say what MANY countries in the world (especially Asia) feel: that many countries feel threatened by possible American/ Nato annexation ! as virtually happened with Iraq.
    year, right – strictly technically speaking it is not an annexation – because annexation implies sharing common borders with the territory to be annexed. but it doesn’t matter for the ONLY superpower in the world, which has established system to jump int o practically ANY part of the world and intervene in the business of sovereign countries. the whole history of USA since WWII provides plenty examples of that.

    so, yeah – may be Russia’s neighbors might feel threatened of possible annexation.
    but more so MANY countries in the world feel increasing American intervention into their countries’ business ! and the difference is: if in case of Russia such threat is contained only within limits of neighbors – then in case of America it can be ANY place on the globe ! so, much more to worry about !

    America has become what Russia was called during “Spring of Nations” in 19th century, the “Jandarm of Europe” (ironically for quite opposite thing: for crushing liberal and pro-commie revolutions) – but only on much bigger scale ! nowadays America is “World’s Jandarm”, despite its self-proclaimed being a champion of the democracy and war on terror.

    and sooner or later will be the movement to contain American expansionist foreign policies, rather than Russia’s attempt to avoid encircling! I am surprised how Chavez, India, China, Iran, Russia didn’t create their own alliance till now ! o^0

  • Ossi

    using excuse entirely based on anything to “democracy” is very lame one, most of people don’t buy it anymore !
    I’ve spoken to a friend few days back, he told me: “do you know what it comes to? it increasingly becoming a fascist country”. well, you can guess which country he was talking about – I can help you: he wasn’t talking about Russia. ;)

    WHAT IS DEMOCRACY ? it is very common cliche and useful panacea for justification of whatever ambitions in ruthless foreign policies ! educate yourself, read more about DEMOCRACY !
    there is NON any real democracy in the world so far – surely not in US ! it has NEVER been conceived as a Democracy in the first place ! neither its Constitution or any of its Amendments mention this word even once !

    and quite understandable, explained and thoroughly thought out since the beginning, by Founder Fathers, who has especially warned against country becoming a “Democracy”.

    so, the ONLY thing US, UK and Co can call themselves and promote – is THEIR OWN version / interpretation of TRUE DEMOCRACY

    therefore, it is shame that people continue to use and in fact abuse this word whenever they like ! as in case of Georgia ! Saakashvili’s wife has said to Western media (some Dutch newspaper) that her husband aspires to follow the “strong” leaders of the past as Stalin and Beria – both Georgians – before has marched with roses to depose former dictator Shevardnadze he has made a rally in front of Stalin’s statue in Gori (BTW where this statue still IS) ! and his aspirations he has expressed very well in ordering full scale slaughter of ethnic minority, under that very same excuse of protecting “Democracy” and Western values in supposedly “Democratic” Georgia…

  • Dot

    G&M ROB article:

    Moscow transforms real-world game of RISK

    With the Georgian invasion, the Kremlin has sent notice that it now controls the Risk board in “great game” of energy geopolitics…

    Newman!!!

  • Dot
  • Dot

    Eric Reguly weighs in on the geopolitics of EU energy security:

    Russia crushes Europe’s energy strategy

    With the North Sea oil and natural gas fields running out of puff, Europe, in particular the European Union, is more dependent than ever on imported energy. The biggest single supplier is Russia, whose pipelines snake across Ukraine, Belarus and Moldova before poking into central and western Europe.

    Russia’s energy supplies are cherished. Germany, France and Italy have almost no oil and gas of their own. Russia’s Gazprom, the world’s biggest gas company, supplies 40 per cent or more of Europe’s gas imports. The company, controlled by the Russian state and led by Dmitry Medvedev before he became Russia’s President, is the equivalent of a one-country gas OPEC.

  • Dot
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