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		<title>By: Geiseric the Lame</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2008/08/15/patrick-muttart-speaks/comment-page-1/#comment-14529</link>
		<dc:creator>Geiseric the Lame</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 02:25:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>btw Kady, Edgar Bergen would be proud.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>btw Kady, Edgar Bergen would be proud.</p>
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		<title>By: Kady O'Malley</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2008/08/15/patrick-muttart-speaks/comment-page-1/#comment-14528</link>
		<dc:creator>Kady O'Malley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 21:12:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And yet, at the moment, this post is still the &lt;a href=&quot;http://news.google.com/news?sourceid=navclient-ff&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;rlz=1B3GGGL_enCA271CA271&amp;um=1&amp;tab=wn&amp;q=%22patrick+muttart%22&amp;scoring=n&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;only hit on Google News&lt;/a&gt; to include the party&#039;s clarification on Muttart&#039;s role, despite the fact that The Sparrow sent it out to reporters last night, and to the press gallery earlier today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And yet, at the moment, this post is still the <a href="http://news.google.com/news?sourceid=navclient-ff&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;rlz=1B3GGGL_enCA271CA271&amp;um=1&amp;tab=wn&amp;q=%22patrick+muttart%22&amp;scoring=n" rel="nofollow">only hit on Google News</a> to include the party&#8217;s clarification on Muttart&#8217;s role, despite the fact that The Sparrow sent it out to reporters last night, and to the press gallery earlier today.</p>
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		<title>By: Kady O'Malley</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2008/08/15/patrick-muttart-speaks/comment-page-1/#comment-14527</link>
		<dc:creator>Kady O'Malley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 21:06:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s up now! But I should point out, in-the-know, that these filings are actually under review, *not* under investigation. That&#039;s important to note, since the alternative could possibly be seen as libellous -- which may be why the Conservative staffers at committee yesterday hastily revised the initial handout, which was titled &quot;Candidates/MPs under Investigation&quot;; the amended version referred to these filings, quite properly, as under review.

Since that came up during yesterday&#039;s hearings, and I wrote about it at the time, I didn&#039;t think to repeated what I said there, but to save you scanning through all that text: There are many, many reasons why a return could be held for review, of which expenses - particularly advertising, or any kind, really - is only one. In other words, just because a campaign return has not yet been finalized, it does not mean that candidate is being &quot;investigated&quot; - for in-and-outing, or anything else.

Finally, a quick list of Conservative MPs whose filings are also still under review, but who were not (as far as we know) amongst the candidates involved in the so-called &quot;regional media buys&quot; that have resulted in the current dispute with Elections Canada: Tony Clement,  Jason Kenney, Helena Guergis, Tom Lukiwski and Nina Grewal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s up now! But I should point out, in-the-know, that these filings are actually under review, *not* under investigation. That&#8217;s important to note, since the alternative could possibly be seen as libellous &#8212; which may be why the Conservative staffers at committee yesterday hastily revised the initial handout, which was titled &#8220;Candidates/MPs under Investigation&#8221;; the amended version referred to these filings, quite properly, as under review.</p>
<p>Since that came up during yesterday&#8217;s hearings, and I wrote about it at the time, I didn&#8217;t think to repeated what I said there, but to save you scanning through all that text: There are many, many reasons why a return could be held for review, of which expenses &#8211; particularly advertising, or any kind, really &#8211; is only one. In other words, just because a campaign return has not yet been finalized, it does not mean that candidate is being &#8220;investigated&#8221; &#8211; for in-and-outing, or anything else.</p>
<p>Finally, a quick list of Conservative MPs whose filings are also still under review, but who were not (as far as we know) amongst the candidates involved in the so-called &#8220;regional media buys&#8221; that have resulted in the current dispute with Elections Canada: Tony Clement,  Jason Kenney, Helena Guergis, Tom Lukiwski and Nina Grewal.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Wells</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2008/08/15/patrick-muttart-speaks/comment-page-1/#comment-14526</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Wells</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 20:21:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a note to the commenter &#039;in the know&#039; that when you put a bunch of links in a comment it often gets pitched straight into the waiting-for-approval queue, where yours is now. it&#039;ll be fished out soon enough, methinks. Can&#039;t do it myself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a note to the commenter &#8216;in the know&#8217; that when you put a bunch of links in a comment it often gets pitched straight into the waiting-for-approval queue, where yours is now. it&#8217;ll be fished out soon enough, methinks. Can&#8217;t do it myself.</p>
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		<title>By: Just Visiting</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2008/08/15/patrick-muttart-speaks/comment-page-1/#comment-14525</link>
		<dc:creator>Just Visiting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 18:38:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is that School connected to the U of C research outfit that funded a &quot;non-partisan&quot; climate change misinformation camapign by the Friends of Science (sic) during the last federal election?

See http://gauntlet.ucalgary.ca/story/12416

- JV</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is that School connected to the U of C research outfit that funded a &#8220;non-partisan&#8221; climate change misinformation camapign by the Friends of Science (sic) during the last federal election?</p>
<p>See <a href="http://gauntlet.ucalgary.ca/story/12416" rel="nofollow">http://gauntlet.ucalgary.ca/story/12416</a></p>
<p>- JV</p>
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		<title>By: dB</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2008/08/15/patrick-muttart-speaks/comment-page-1/#comment-14524</link>
		<dc:creator>dB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 18:29:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CSEE is a joint U of A/U of C/Lethbridge research centre.  It&#039;s a very peculiar appointment, but not a patronage appointment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CSEE is a joint U of A/U of C/Lethbridge research centre.  It&#8217;s a very peculiar appointment, but not a patronage appointment.</p>
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2008/08/15/patrick-muttart-speaks/comment-page-1/#comment-14523</link>
		<dc:creator>Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 17:50:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Giornowatch alert: Bruce Carson, erstwhile king and almost-sole occupant of the Senior Advisor box is getting a patronage apptt to head the Canadian school for the environment (what is that?), proving once again that the wheels of GiornoMobile they keep on turning. Now, when will Muttart&#039;s appointment to Head the - let&#039;s say - School of Strategic Studies be announced?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Giornowatch alert: Bruce Carson, erstwhile king and almost-sole occupant of the Senior Advisor box is getting a patronage apptt to head the Canadian school for the environment (what is that?), proving once again that the wheels of GiornoMobile they keep on turning. Now, when will Muttart&#8217;s appointment to Head the &#8211; let&#8217;s say &#8211; School of Strategic Studies be announced?</p>
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		<title>By: in the know</title>
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		<dc:creator>in the know</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 16:55:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow.
There is a lot of bath water drinking going on around here.

Yet no one is talking about the only real news made yesterday.  Mayrand backtracks and says other parties candidates also under investigation!

How does the Liberal braintrust of commenters around here feel about Janke&#039;s observations:

http://stevejanke.com/archives/270744.php

Huh? Huh?  Love to hear the spin on it.

You can watch the moments yourself:

http://parlvu.parl.gc.ca/parlvuen-ca/admanager/asxgen.asx?url=StreamLogger/2008/2008-08/0000D7C9.wmv

Watch from 2 hours 13 mins to 16 mins
and watch around 2 hours and 56 mins.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.<br />
There is a lot of bath water drinking going on around here.</p>
<p>Yet no one is talking about the only real news made yesterday.  Mayrand backtracks and says other parties candidates also under investigation!</p>
<p>How does the Liberal braintrust of commenters around here feel about Janke&#8217;s observations:</p>
<p><a href="http://stevejanke.com/archives/270744.php" rel="nofollow">http://stevejanke.com/archives/270744.php</a></p>
<p>Huh? Huh?  Love to hear the spin on it.</p>
<p>You can watch the moments yourself:</p>
<p><a href="http://parlvu.parl.gc.ca/parlvuen-ca/admanager/asxgen.asx?url=StreamLogger/2008/2008-08/0000D7C9.wmv" rel="nofollow">http://parlvu.parl.gc.ca/parlvuen-ca/admanager/asxgen.asx?url=StreamLogger/2008/2008-08/0000D7C9.wmv</a></p>
<p>Watch from 2 hours 13 mins to 16 mins<br />
and watch around 2 hours and 56 mins.</p>
<p>Comments?</p>
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		<title>By: Finn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Finn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 16:53:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If there is a fall election, it will be interesting to see if the Tories continue to use in-and-out financing, given that they say there&#039;s nothing wrong with it.  If they don&#039;t, what will that say?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If there is a fall election, it will be interesting to see if the Tories continue to use in-and-out financing, given that they say there&#8217;s nothing wrong with it.  If they don&#8217;t, what will that say?</p>
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		<title>By: boudica</title>
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		<dc:creator>boudica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 15:42:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the CPC didn&#039;t expect this amount of coverage.  The irony in all of this is that I think their original assessment was on the money.  These proceedings would have indeed flown under the radar were it not for their own painfully obvious sabotage efforts.

Between Lowry&#039;s on-the-record admission that he was told not to attend and Goldstein + Mommy gong show yesterday, how could the press NOT cover this story?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the CPC didn&#8217;t expect this amount of coverage.  The irony in all of this is that I think their original assessment was on the money.  These proceedings would have indeed flown under the radar were it not for their own painfully obvious sabotage efforts.</p>
<p>Between Lowry&#8217;s on-the-record admission that he was told not to attend and Goldstein + Mommy gong show yesterday, how could the press NOT cover this story?</p>
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		<title>By: Transcanada</title>
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		<dc:creator>Transcanada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 15:18:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The other part of the CONservative strategy is fairly obvious.

Stephen Harper latest widely reported theme: Parliament is dysfuntional. We should have an election. Which diverts attention nicely from who is causing the dysfunction and those pesky Ethics hearings. And the Occasional Goldstien screaming match is definitely more titillating the substance of the hearing which looks bad for the CONs...

So many issues to try to get ahead of, so little time. Harper is realizing IN-OUT isn&#039;t going to get any better, more downside than up. He thought the next election was going to be a green-themed. Wrong.

Boy o boy I sure hope that &#039;Being a good CONservative MP 101: How the disrupt parliamentary committees&quot; handbook doesn&#039;t surface after Harper tells us all about an unworkable Parliament. OK maybe I do hope it shows up. But at the right time and place. On national media outlets from coast to coast would be good.

Harper side note: Fixed date elections are a good idea, just not for moi. PS We love you NL, &lt;a href=&quot;http://canadianpress.google.com/article/ALeqM5hI4gcM4fEYkClc357DfyHHXNJsvg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;no matter when you joined Confederation.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The other part of the CONservative strategy is fairly obvious.</p>
<p>Stephen Harper latest widely reported theme: Parliament is dysfuntional. We should have an election. Which diverts attention nicely from who is causing the dysfunction and those pesky Ethics hearings. And the Occasional Goldstien screaming match is definitely more titillating the substance of the hearing which looks bad for the CONs&#8230;</p>
<p>So many issues to try to get ahead of, so little time. Harper is realizing IN-OUT isn&#8217;t going to get any better, more downside than up. He thought the next election was going to be a green-themed. Wrong.</p>
<p>Boy o boy I sure hope that &#8216;Being a good CONservative MP 101: How the disrupt parliamentary committees&#8221; handbook doesn&#8217;t surface after Harper tells us all about an unworkable Parliament. OK maybe I do hope it shows up. But at the right time and place. On national media outlets from coast to coast would be good.</p>
<p>Harper side note: Fixed date elections are a good idea, just not for moi. PS We love you NL, <a href="http://canadianpress.google.com/article/ALeqM5hI4gcM4fEYkClc357DfyHHXNJsvg" rel="nofollow">no matter when you joined Confederation.</a></p>
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		<title>By: Geiseric the Lame</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2008/08/15/patrick-muttart-speaks/comment-page-1/#comment-14518</link>
		<dc:creator>Geiseric the Lame</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 15:01:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Still tough to say, but if I were Kehoe I&#039;d be pissed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Still tough to say, but if I were Kehoe I&#8217;d be pissed.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2008/08/15/patrick-muttart-speaks/comment-page-1/#comment-14517</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 14:53:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was perfectly legal. In and out! In and out! In and out! Why is Muttart distancing himself from something not only above-board but successful? And if not Muttart, who was the strategic, financial, and legal genius?

In, and out! In, and out! In, and out!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was perfectly legal. In and out! In and out! In and out! Why is Muttart distancing himself from something not only above-board but successful? And if not Muttart, who was the strategic, financial, and legal genius?</p>
<p>In, and out! In, and out! In, and out!</p>
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		<title>By: Geiseric the Lame</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2008/08/15/patrick-muttart-speaks/comment-page-1/#comment-14516</link>
		<dc:creator>Geiseric the Lame</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 14:46:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nothing odd about it at all.  Anyone who&#039;s dealt with bureaucracy (for example) at all knows full well the resiliency that comes with the division of services.

That he hasn&#039;t been dragged into the fray itself might help to explain why he&#039;s being so wreckless.  He just nailed one of the party&#039;s feet to the floor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing odd about it at all.  Anyone who&#8217;s dealt with bureaucracy (for example) at all knows full well the resiliency that comes with the division of services.</p>
<p>That he hasn&#8217;t been dragged into the fray itself might help to explain why he&#8217;s being so wreckless.  He just nailed one of the party&#8217;s feet to the floor.</p>
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		<title>By: boudica</title>
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		<dc:creator>boudica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 14:41:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It also suggests that the party is more worried about the optics of this case than they’re letting on.&quot;


As they should be.  Their sabotaging efforts have severely backfired given the negative coverage that followed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It also suggests that the party is more worried about the optics of this case than they’re letting on.&#8221;</p>
<p>As they should be.  Their sabotaging efforts have severely backfired given the negative coverage that followed.</p>
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		<title>By: Kady O'Malley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kady O'Malley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 14:10:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Sparrow&#039;s only role, as far as I know, is to direct the communications of the Conservative Party, although not, it bears noting, in the direction of the ITQ mailbox. Still.

Interestingly, he wasn&#039;t on the scene at all this week - in the committee room, that is - which is odd, because he sat through all the preceding meetings. Sometimes he and I were the only ones in the audience, even. But now, when it involves hearing from actual witnesses, and not just listening to government members filibuster, he&#039;s MIA. Like I said - odd.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Sparrow&#8217;s only role, as far as I know, is to direct the communications of the Conservative Party, although not, it bears noting, in the direction of the ITQ mailbox. Still.</p>
<p>Interestingly, he wasn&#8217;t on the scene at all this week &#8211; in the committee room, that is &#8211; which is odd, because he sat through all the preceding meetings. Sometimes he and I were the only ones in the audience, even. But now, when it involves hearing from actual witnesses, and not just listening to government members filibuster, he&#8217;s MIA. Like I said &#8211; odd.</p>
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		<title>By: Geiseric the Lame</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geiseric the Lame</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 13:21:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone know if Sparrow&#039;s involved in the court case?</description>
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		<title>By: Geiseric the Lame</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2008/08/15/patrick-muttart-speaks/comment-page-1/#comment-14512</link>
		<dc:creator>Geiseric the Lame</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 13:07:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>another Conservative that didn&#039;t care how it was paid for.  go figure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>another Conservative that didn&#8217;t care how it was paid for.  go figure.</p>
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