So when do we start the official countdown?

by kadyomalley on Wednesday, September 3, 2008 10:14am - 0 Comments

Is it when David Emerson finally - finallykills off all those delicious rumours of being primed to parachute into some slightly-less-hostile riding by announcing that he won’t run again?  Okay, it’s not official yet — it’s still just sources saying — but as Wells pointed out earlier today, was there ever any real reason to believe that he was going to stick around?

I mean, we all know that he likes being an a-list, star calibre minister (which, to be fair, isn’t exactly all that hard to do in this particular cabinet) but elections are so messy and unpredictable, and there’s always the outside chance that he could’ve wound up on the wrong side of the House again, vowing to become Stephane Dion’s “worst nightmare” until the very second he comes rolling up outside Rideau Hall. (Okay, that really probably wasn’t going to happen, but still.) You have to feel sorry for his local riding association, though – or, really, any local Conservative riding association in the general vicinity of Vancouver that doesn’t yet have a candidate and, as such, would have been up for grabs had Emerson been willing but clearly not able to hold onto his existing seat – but at least now they know.

Then there’s Loyola Hearn, who was also widely expected to step aside, and who will apparently make his intentions clear as soon as the writ falls. Which frankly, seems a little last-minute; I’d think that the party would rather kick off the campaign with a parade of previously unannounced star candidates, not bittersweet farewells to outgoing cabinet ministers.

Honestly, though, you can’t really blame him – Newfoundland, it appears, will not be the friendliest place for a Conservative to campaign in the next election. But I’ll admit to being a little bit surprised that the Nova Scotia Tories are sufficiently unprepared as to require the long arm of central — which is ultimately attached to Doug Finley, I believe — to select candidates in four different ridings, including one willing to make the noble-but-surely-doomed attempt to steal back Cumberland-Colchester from Bill Casey.

I mean, isn’t this the same party that was running anti-Green Shift ads during the Liberals’ Atlantic Canada caucus last month, and confidentially (if anonymous source-ily) assuring reporters that the Permanent Tax on Everything would spark an east coast electoral trainwreck for hapless not-a-leader Stephane Dion?  Why else would a Liberal candidate in Prince Edward Island drop out of the race, ostensibly for “professional reasons”?

Luckily for the unimaginative amongst us, Ryan Sparrow knew why, and was only too happy to share his thoughts with the local Charlottetown press, which were then obligingly reported by the national press, since it was summer, after all – and really, there’s nothing we like more than a dose of Outremontesque Liberal disarray. (Unless it’s an unauthorized peek inside Stephen Harper’s very secret agenda book, that is. That one never gets old. )

And having apparently learned nothing, we seem to be writing the opposite story – this time, it’s the Conservative Party whose candidates are deserting the mothership just days before the election. Oh, and for balance, that the Liberals were forced to change the Green Shift based on – brace yourselves, this is bad – what they heard from the public over the summer, in order to make it more salable on the election trail, thus clearly demonstrating the desperation that has set in within the embattled Dion camp. That’ll take care of the speculation quota for the next — four days or so.

I’m sure there’s a lesson here somewhere, but I suppose I’ll have to wait for an unnamed senior party organizer – from either party, really; it doesn’t seem to matter –  to fill me in on exactly what it is.

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  • Peter

    I’d like to repeat what I’ve already posted elsewhere, and that is I could see David Emerson replacing Michael Wilson as embassador to the United States since it has been mentioned that Wilson will not remain embassador after the change in administration. If not Emerson, who could we expect to replace Wilson?

    If the conservatives win another minority, would it be a defacto majority again, as I would expect at least 2 of the 3 opposition parties to undergo a leadership change.

  • MJ Patchouli

    Peter, don’t you think harper’s job is in jeopardy if he returns another minority?

    I do.

  • WDM

    Harper’s job likely wouldn’t be on the line with another minority for awhile simply because Dion would likely be pushed out the door before the polls closed in British Columbia. I would say though that this will more than likely be the last campaign for Duceppe as leader of the BQ.

  • Just Visiting

    Can’t see Emerson wanting a job on the east coast. The major benefit to not being in Parliament for him is that he can live and play with his family in Vancouver.

    - JV

  • Baloneyman

    Well, since the whole reason Harper says he needs this election is because he can’t govern in this current minorty situation, would not another minority result automatically mean preclude Mr. Harper from seing Prime Minister?
    By his own admission he cannot govern – that’s wjhy we’re having this election. If the electorate return a similar result, Harper – being a man of integrity – would hold to his word, admit that he is not up to the task of goiverning in a simialr minority arrangement, and resign?
    I mean, I kinda thought that was a given…..I mean, Harper is the kind of man who can be held to account for his previous pronouncements, isn’t he?

  • Peter

    Harper’s job won’t be on the line if he wins another minority, because the Conservative party won’t have any opportunities to change leaders when the opposition could bring down the government.

    The results of this election will be very interesting because the outcome is most likely a minority. And the Liberals are in such a difficult financial position they won’t be able to fight an election any time soon after this one, while the conservatives will be ready to fight another election on October 15.

  • http://mikewatkins.ca/tags/emerson/ M Watkins

    Emerson is getting what he deserves. As a grown up he perhaps was living in a fantasy land back in 2006, one where you can run on one platform and be elected, and the very next day enter into negotiations to join a party – as a cabinet minister – you swore to oppose.

    Party platforms DO matter and DO differ.

    But more than that what Emerson and Harper did exposed how fragile real democracy is. If the PM can put anyone in cabinet, election results (or in the case of Fortier, no election at all) notwithstanding, then we’ve taken yet another giant stride toward the American style of executive governance.

    And look how well that has done of late.

    Our PM clearly isn’t a fan of parliamentary democracy; Harper has at every turn tried to undermine it.

    Sadly the average voter doesn’t think about such things, and the average opposition hasn’t figured out how to make people care. They should.

  • MJ Patchouli

    I am not a CPC insider; however I have heard from a woman who is running for them that harper is on the line; most certainly he is not popular with his caucus. Striking fear and being authoritarian is no way to endear oneself to one’s colleagues — and believe me, none of these people in politics, in any party, are there because they have small egos. It’s tough for them to work with such an introverted, all-about-me guy as steve.

  • Austin So

    Well geez…what exactly is Emerson concerned about?

    Harper can always offer him a Senate seat to remain in cabinet. It’s not like Harper’s not done something silly like that before, hmmm?

    Austin

  • Wayne

    The answer to your question is Sunday Night Kady if I am not misstaken that is the last opportunity to call the GG to have the writ. dropped – Wouldn’t it be funny if it didn’t happen and instead you hear the news that Harper pro-rogues or just goes to Dion and says PSYCHE! gotcha. Oh by the way MJ nice try but speaking as a Conservative and one who knows quite a few others I have never heard anyone even remotely suggest a different leader in point of fact we think Stevie boy is doing a terrific job and judging by the people I know in my riding we get a real chuckle whenever someone mentions the type of hype we hear from posts like yours as it is usually followed by Liberal Troll!

  • Baloneyman

    I think everyone seriously needs a lesson in civics here. Even if Harper returns to minority (and stays on as Prime Minister)- he CANNOT call an election anytime he wants. It’s the GG’s prerogative to ask the leader of the opposition to form a government if Harper cannot maintain the confidence of the House.
    Also, the ease at which Harper is willing to ignore his own law puts paid to his elected Senate plans. Since the wording with respect to appointing ‘elected’ Senators has to have the same loophole as the fixed date election about not constraing the prerogative of the GG to appoint whomever she choses (and we all know Harper’s word about respecting even his own law is worth diddely), he cannot very well put forward a credible elected Senate law without a constitutional amendment.

  • Dije

    Harper’s job would only be in jeopardy if the Conservatives had anyone to replace him.

    Judging by the current state of his party, Harper can muzzle and taser his party to his delight without anyone opposing him.

    Harper will never have a majority.

  • Peter

    Baloneyman has a point. Any Senate election law could not overrule the GGs constitutional right to appoint senators (On the advice of the PM). So if the PM ignores the election law he could conceivably ignore his own (future) senate election law. But politicians have a bank account full of political capital, and I believe the withdrawal that would require is not possible.

  • WDM

    Firstly, on the topic of the GG, I think we’re at a point where the job is so ceremonial, we’d likely never see a situation where the Opposition was asked to form a government without a mandate, or see the GG do anything other than agree to the PM’s wishes.

    On Senate Reform, yes the CPC is moving too fast on this. There are Constitutional questions that need to be answered,despite my burning desire to take Peter Van Loan’s word for it.

  • Scott M.

    Really? You don’t think that if a government went within 30 days of being elected to the GG to ask for dissolution she wouldn’t consult the opposition first?

    It’s happened in Provincial politics… to simply call an election would be an abdication of her duties.

  • Peter

    I don’t know about that WDM. If the conservatives won 120 seats and the liberals won 120 seats, someone would need to make a decision, and that someone is the GG. Also, she could decide whether to accept say a conservative minority government or a liberal/ndp coalition government.

    AND I hope that if legislation was ever passed in undemocratic circumstances (like while oppposition MPs were imprisoned or locked up in the House of Commons cafeteria), the GG would block it. But of course, the GG couldn’t do anything contrary to the PM that was for political purposes.

  • Geiseric the Lame

    I can’t remember who said it but my nomination for the the best zinger of the entire 39th Parliament was when Emmerson was giving a dipper the gears about sipping latte in a riding cafe and the guy shot back with…
    “Mr. Speaker, at least I can RETURN to my riding”.

    the place went nuts.

  • Baloneyman

    Oh, btw, has Fortier announced where he will run?

  • http://scottdiatribe.gluemeat.com Scott Tribe

    Peter:

    In a minority situation, whether its a tie or even if the current government is behind in seats, that current government is given first opportunity to decide whether they can cobble together a coalition to stay in power. So even if the Cons were lets say 10 seats behind the Liberals in total seats after this election, they still have the opportunity to form a government if they can. If they can’t, they inform the GG, who then invites the next largest party to try to form a government.

    She really doesn’t have as big of a decision as you make it out to be.

  • Scott M.

    Indeed, the Government gets to stay government as long as they can convince the GG they can maintain the confidence of the house.

    But if the government asked for dissolution within the first few weeks, the GG would most certainly be obligated to see if the opposition party/ies can form a government that would maintain the confidence of the house.

  • Wascally Wabbit

    Someone asked about Fortier and which riding he’ll dare to run in…if he dare?
    Let’s not forget Vic Toews (do as I say not as I do)..word was he was going to be slide off to some synecure to cut off parliamentary committee review of his private affairs…will he run again?
    The gravitas of Harper’s cabinet is slipping – pretty soon – the best qualified Conservative MP around to take care of Foreign Affairs will Helena Guergis…Canada’s Sarah Palin…Yikes!
    think of Question Period with Bob Rae grilling her – as Commander Pickard used to say…Make it happen!

  • Peter

    Kady; “the Liberals were forced to change the Green Shift based on – brace yourselves, this is bad – what they heard from the public over the summer, in order to make it more salable on the election trail”,

    Actually since the “Green Shift” is to save the planet, that is bad, since one can assume that without it, we’re all gonna die!!!!!!!!!!

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  • http://www.motorcycle-fairing.com Fairings

    Then i guess the “Green Shift” is a good campaign move for these guys.

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