Anyone but the Tories or the NDP

[UPDATED …below with contrite statement from Fullard, and what he thought 10 months

by selley on Tuesday, September 9, 2008 4:07pm - 14 Comments

[UPDATED below with contrite statement from Fullard, and what he thought 10 months ago.]

I see the Tories have politely suggested Stéphane Dion might consider reconsidering Brent Fullard’s logic-defying candidacy in Whitby-Oshawa. (Frankly, my jaw’s still sore from hitting the table when I discovered he’d been nominated in the first place.) [Insta-update: I shouldn't say it defies logic, exactly. Siccing someone like Fullard on Jim Flaherty makes perfect sense, just not at any cost.] For those unfamiliar with his, shall we say, tireless fight against the government’s income trust flip-flop, here’s a brief piece I did for the magazine in November.

Getting over the income trust debacle
Protest on the Hill: Anyone but the Tories… or the NDP
CHRIS SELLEY | November 8, 2007 |

On the one-year anniversary of Finance Minister Jim Flaherty’s “Halloween massacre” — the government’s decision to tax income trusts starting in 2011, in violation of an election promise — about 100 small investors gathered on Parliament Hill. In Calgary, the Coalition of Canadian Energy Trusts (CCET) publicly renewed its objections, among them the lack of public consultation and the flimsy evidence of tax “leakage” under the old model. But Canadian Association of Income Trust Investors (CAITI) president Brent Fullard was upping the ante. In an Oct. 16 mass email criticizing the Conservatives for targeting ethnic voters, he compared the Canadian Council of Chief Executives’ support for Stephen Harper to “Thyssen Steel . . . supporting Hitler’s rise to power.” Another email was entitled, “Heil mein Harper.”

Government critics peg the loss to investors at $35 billion. Money managers say the angry phone calls still flow in, and many Conservative party memberships have understandably been torn up. But Fullard’s shrill voice is increasingly lonely. CCET co-chair John Dielwart, president and CEO of ARC Energy Trust, says he and other Alberta trust executives hold out little hope the Tories will change their minds — and the trust sector has managed a modest rebound over the year. Dielwart’s group is a financial backer of Fullard’s organization, and Dielwart believes Fullard is doing an “excellent job” getting the message out. But he concedes “there might be a little bit of overkill in there.”

Fullard offers no apologies, and denies likening Harper to Hitler — even in the case of another email entitled “Hitler was a strong leader too.” He says he’s simply calling Canadians’ attention to the Prime Minister’s “dictator-like” qualities in hopes they’ll vote for someone else — the Liberals, for example, who have proposed a more modest 10 per cent tax. “Any issue is fair game,” says Fullard. “Just like Danny Williams is saying, anyone but Conservative. Except in our case we add anyone but the NDP.”

UPDATE: A statement from Brent Fullard in the comments below.

Here’s how he explained the Hitler comparisons, or non-comparisons, to me in November of last year:

Q: [Terence Corcoran] also talked about what he called “ugly political commentary.” I’ve been forwarded a few of the more fiery e-mails from your mailing list—things like “Heil mein Harper” and “Hitler was a strong leader too”…

A: Yeah, but see, that’s right. I must send out ten e-mails a day, and I have for the last four months. So we’re talking about 400 e-mails and two of them made a veiled reference to that.

Q: It’s not veiled, is it? “Heil mein Harper?” There’s nothing veiled about that.

A: Well, what does “Heil mein Harper” mean to you? It doesn’t [necessarily] mean Hitler.

Q: But in light of the other e-mail that says Hitler was a strong leader…

A: Well, you see, now you’re joining two e-mails. You can’t do that.

Q: Alright, so why don’t we focus on the one that says “Hitler was a strong leader too.” There you’re comparing Harper to Hitler, right?

A: Well no, I’m simply saying … the point of that e-mail, had anyone inquired, was that … you know, OK, for Harper… let’s acknowledge, as all the surveys seem to do, that he is the better leader, he is a strong leader. Well, guess what, world: it’s not a unidimensional thing. … It’s going to be the whole premise of his upcoming election campaign, is that he is perceived as being a strong leader.

And my point was simply to undermine the nonsensical nature of taking a unidimensional approach to evaluating a person by observing, Hitler was a strong leader too. OK. So, world, wake up to the fact… I’m not calling Harper a Hitler. I’m not drawing that [comparison] for a second. I’m simply making the point—and maybe it’s over these people’s intellectual capacity—I’m simply saying, you don’t evaluate a person on a unidimensional basis. That’s my point.

And then the one about the “Heil mein Harper,” what I was saying there was, I was simply making the point that, well, interesting, Ed Stelmach did this royalty thing, which is a retroactive tax. But the big difference between Ed Stelmach and Harper? Well, first of all Stelmach had public consultation. He went to great lengths to consult the public—whether in the end it made any difference I don’t know. He at least went through the formal process. He wasn’t breaking any election promise.

And then Harper, did a complete about face on an explicit election promise that formed the foundation of his being reelected, doesn’t even give us the goddamn common courtesy of having a public consultation. And so I conclude that’s the act of a person who’s very dictator-like. So pick your dictator of choice, you know. I don’t know. Pick one. So the way I invoked … I’m trying to convey messages in as few words as possible, but if you want to pick on those two e-mails… why don’t you go and look at the 50 postings on our blog?

And if you want to get into how it is he might actually share some other characteristics with people of the past… hey, this guy is purposefully making an issue of burkas. OK? I find that reprehensible.

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  • Dot

    Fullard was at one time posting on Garth Turner’s site as two separate individuals at the same time in order to make it appear that his position had more public support than it really did – “Brent Fullard” as head of CAITI, and “Cousin It” a supposed senior who was affected by the income trust tax changes.

    It was in blog comments of May 24, 2007 where he tripped himself up. He was switching between posting as Brent Fullard and Cousin It when he forgot to switch names when the duplicitous ruse was discovered (ie answering as Brent Fullard and signing as Cousin It).

    See:

    http://www.garth.ca/weblog/2007/05/24/ready-in-cambridge/#comments

    You need to follow the discussion prior to it, but the duplicitous commenting was uncovered here:

    By Cousin It on 05.25.07 8:04 pm

    Yeah, a real class act that Cousin It, I mean Brent Fullard.

  • Val Fullard

    Statement from Brent Fullard
    Liberal Candidate for Whitby-Oshawa

    I am the son of a World War 2 veteran, who fought for 6 years in Europe against the horrors of fascism, and who was decorated for his valour in that struggle. He instilled in my soul a passion for justice and for the ongoing fight against any manifestation of racism in our world.

    Nevertheless, what I failed to recognize was the extreme pain that the very name of Hitler, or allusions to his regime can cause to those who live with daily reminders of this unparalleled evil, and the devastating Holocaust that followed in its wake.

    It is in that context that I have in the past made some comments regarding actions of the Harper government that I thought discriminatory, and drew an unfortunate parallel to that regime. My mistake was inexcusable. These comments are hurtful to the millions of people who suffered and were killed by the Nazis and to those who remember them. Discrimination is antithetical to who I am as a person, and it was never in any way my intention to condone it or in any way to trivialize the Holocaust. I sincerely and without reservation apologize for my insensitive and highly inappropriate comments and for any offence that they have caused.
    – 30 -

  • Dot

    A little late isn’t it Val? 10 months later.

  • Wayne

    10 months later and see page 10 for the retraction – what a moron and I don’t mean that as an insult but if you look up the IQ definitions you will find it down around feeblmindedness and imbecilic – if there was ever a marker for how low the LPC is getting then here it is folks.

  • http://www.michaeltripper.com Michael Tripper

    there was no need to apologize in the first place – if Harper behaves in a dictatorial fashion he deserves to be called upon it.

    My father’s family died because they were jews in europe- you think I give a sh*t if someone uses Hitler? Hell no.

    These little crybabies yelping about this are simple intolerant folks WHO DON’T WANT ANY CRITICISM of dear leader Harper.

    It’s called freedom of speech and the Cons can only get power when they suppress voices and own the presses.

    A free unfettered press would decimate them for their serial lies, distortions and obsfucations.

  • Christy

    Brent Fullard has stood up for all seniors who had invested in income trusts in order not to be dependant on government handouts. Stephen Harper and Jim Flaherty destroyed their independence. There is no way the Conservatives will ever help these seniors. Brent Fullard is my hero and we would be lucky to have him as a member of parliament.

  • Sisyphus

    Latest news from the Least Coast. Maybe somebody out there cares.
    Anyway,the Conservative candidate in Halifax,appointed by the Politburo yesterday,was “disappeared” today.Little thing about undisclosed criminal convictions.
    These guys are good.

  • DJ

    I live here in Whitby-Oshawa and I won’t be voting for Flaherty. By nominating this guy, the Liberals have gone a long way toward making me vote NDP. They held the riding for ten years in the 90s, so they might have a shot at it with someone credible – this makes it look like they aren’t even trying. Where’s the riding association?

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  • Lord Bob

    Yes, as we all know, Hitler’s first act as chancellor of Germany was to go back on his word to not tax a small part of the economy which affects primarily the wealthiest segments of society.

    It’s just a small step from taxing income trusts to seizing dictatorial powers and directly causing the deaths of twenty million people, give or take.

    (Seriously, people are defending this? Have I fallen back in time and space to the Weimar Republic? Is the entire support base for the Liberal Party of Canada essentially one elabourate trolling operation designed to get rises out of idiots like me who think that tax law and genocide are fairly distantly related? Can some Tory MP say something bad about homosexuals just so I can slag him and feel a bit less partisan about this sort of insanity, for old times’ sake? Please?)

  • Andrew

    Bob, aside from the Nazism gibberish, you claim that the flip-flop on Income Trusts only affected the wealthy… unfortunately, it affected a lot of retirees who were relying on Harper’s word that trusts would not be taxed. Their fixed incomes are now reduced because of Harper’s reversal.

    He could have closed the loophole in the medium term without causing nearing so much hardship for average retirement-age Canadians.

  • Lord Bob

    I didn’t say “only the wealthy”. I said “primarily the wealthiest segments of society”. Seniors tend to have a greater net worth than younger people, and anybody who can afford to invest enough that taxation on income trusts is going to injure them are presumably not going to food banks and living in dumpsters.

    Will there be impoverished and poor people affected? Of course, that’s true for everything. And Harper certainly went back on his word and deserves to catch hell for it. I think, however, the comparison which is being defended by a few comments in this thread to Adolf Hitler is poorly founded.

  • Brian

    I am a retiree who has a large porfolio of income trusts in my RRSP. I am voting for Flaherty because I think the change in policy was necessary and best for the coutry even if my portfolio took a brief hit.

    Incidentally, within one year all of my income trusts except two were back in the black and I was receiving nice dividends as well. Based on my experience most of the so-called losses were only significant if one sold out immediately after the policy was changed. Most people didn’t do that.

  • http://cork2toronto.blogspot.com Mark Dowling

    this is the guy Elizabeth May “can’t help herself” for?

    Doug Anderson must be wondering why he bothered.

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