Rae? May? Unidentified sources say? – Liveblogging Jason Kenney at the NPT

by kadyomalley on Wednesday, September 17, 2008 1:27pm - 77 Comments

2:53:30 PM
Okay, this is interesting: I’m in the National Press Theatre — just a twenty minute cab ride from the heart of downtown Ottawa — and there are a grand total of — let me count — four reporters here, not including cameras, and we’re all female. Not that this is particularly noteworthy, and — well. Fine. Colleague Wells just showed up and spoiled my lede. Thanks, Colleague Wells!

Nobody seems to know exactly which top policy advisor Jason Kenney will be talking about, but the tyrannical majority seems to be betting on Rae. (I’m being contrarian and going for Elizabeth May.)

Colleague Wells, incidentally, is armed with a newer, spiffier camera — a Canon Something Or Other — and is filming the behind the scenes magic.

Meanwhile, in another part of the forest, there’s a hearing on delaying the injunction request by the PM in the Cadman trial, and I’m feeling very guilty for not being there.

3:00:41 PM
He’s here! Or so I’m told by someone who can actually see outside the front doors!

3:01:39 PM
Yes, I can confirm that he is, in fact, here – we have proof of life, in the form of the man himself, scampering to the backstage. I didn’t get to see his face, but it seems to be the real thing, and not a stand-in.

3:03:20 PM
One minute warning. Are y’all excited yet?

3:04:17 PM
“I think we’re ready now, Mr Kenney,” says the moderator, and the man himself responds by appearing.

I’m right! It *is* Elizabeth May! And Bob Rae! Wait, so who wins the bet?

Oh, fine. You want to know what he’s actually saying, don’t you? Today, Dion’s “political ally” Elizabeth May revealed her platform, which would raise the GST – shock! horror – but that’s not all: Dion also chose to underscore the presence on his team of the diabolical Bob Rae, author of the most devastating economic legacy by a provincial premier since the beginning of time. An “unprecedented” economic situation.

3:06:55 PM
You know, I think this is Kenney’s first presser without the Teleprompter in a while, and it sort of shows. He’s a bit stumbly. He’s reading quotes from the 1990s – oh wait, there’s one from David McGuinty circa 2006 – that are less than flattering. He’s also wearing a Bob Rae button, which is a nice touch.

3:09:28 PM
Under Bob Rae, taxes went up and incomes went down, which led to a massive recession – so how, Kenney wonders, can Dion listen to this fiscal fiend on matters of economic policy?

Interesting — for the second time, he refers to Rae as Dion’s “running mate”. He’s also brandishing a chart that looks very ominous — or at least, the headline does; we can’t actually see the numbers, and so far, nobody is handing out copies for reporters.

Why, he wonders, would Dion feature Rae now — at a time of economic uncertainty? Why highlight the premier with “the worst economic record since the Great Depression”?

Bob Rae will do to Canada what he did to Ontario, Kenney concludes – is that Dion wants?

And — questions.

3:14:03 PM
Lina Dib is first up, and she challenges his claim that the Bloc is inciting “intolerance” – and the man whose party kicked off the great veiled voting debacle of 2007 assures her that he’s quite serious; no more blacklisting of religious community, he implores.

Wait, is he talking about the Opus Dei thing? I thought — something entirely different. Generally, when you play reasonable accommodation word association, Opus Dei isn’t the first thing to come to mind.

3:17:01 PM
Manon Corneillier picks up where Lina Gib left off, and she dares him to provide a specific instance of Duceppe spreading intolerance against minority communities — because like everyone else, she had no clue he was referring to Opus Dei — and Kenney won’t do it. “You’re confusing ethnic and religious communities,” says the reporter.

3:19:16 PM
Moving on, the same reporter wonders why Ontario is losing so many jobs *now* – a decade and change after Bob Rae’s departure – which produces a long, boring answer about tax cuts, surpluses, and fiscal prudency. Sorry, but it really *is*. And he dares Dion to make a similar commitment – no deficits! Never forget!

3:20:46 PM
What, CBC’s effervescent Alison Crawford wonders, does Kenney think Rae wants to *do* to the Ontario economy? Well, wreck it, of course. The Liberals “have a tradition”, he says – it was historically a “big tent” that welcomed both the fiscally responsible and the socially progressive, and at that point, Kenney does the incredible: He gives props – not mad, but props just the same – to the Chretien government for its sound fiscal management. Alas, that has disappeared under Dion – and the emergence of Rae as “the big policy brain” – is — bad.

3:22:56 PM
Hee. Crawford closes by asking why he’s here, and not out at the Little Shop, and Kenney – bless his heart – admits it’s to make it easier for us to be here. Aw. He likes us!

3:24:44 PM
Since this is the election of the future and all, we already have a response from Rae, who dismisses Kenney’s diatribe as an ad hominemarific attack by junkyard dogs. Rae assures us all that he’s a big fan of the man – great pianist, heck of a guy – but now Wells is up, and he’s challenging Kenney on the game of pulling out quotes from the past.

He rhymes off a series of policy stances taken by various Tories in the past — flat taxes, that sort of thing — but Kenney reminds him that at the time, they were in opposition, not in power. They couldn’t have put those policies in place even if they’d wanted to!

3:27:13 PM
CTV points out that it’s unusual to hold a presser to “attack one guy” — and Kenney once again raves about how much he likes Rae, and his wife. Why, he even defended them against “extremist attacks” during the convention. Love the man, just don’t lend him money appears to be the upshot.

This is an odd tack.

Oh, and it’s not just a presser to attack Rae — it’s also to go after the Greens, Kenney reminds us. After all, Dion does have an “arrangement” with Elizabeth May, so her position on the GST is obviously completely and totally relevant, and negates entirely his repeated statements that he has no intention of hiking the GST back up.

But are you worried that, by bringing out “popular Liberals,” Dion’s support will increase? No, no. Not at all.

3:31:24 PM
Chris Rand – the moderator – brings up the delicate matter of Kenney’s own reelection campaign. Apparently, he was there last weekend! Doorknocking, even! Does this mean he has an office and everything?

3:33:08 PM
Back to Lina Dib, who continues to hammer him over the Gazette article. Is he really making allegations of intolerance? Not — really, it seems. He’s just a big fan of diversity — and was using the most recent example of a “minority Catholic community.” Dib isn’t letting him get away with this – the word has a very different meaning in Quebec, she points out — just read the Bouchard-Taylor Commission. “As far as we’re concerned, diversity is something good, and something to be celebrated.”

3:35:45 PM
Crawford picks up the issue, and asks for an English response, and Kenney repeats his point: Duceppe went after “a minority Catholic organization.” Why won’t he say the words “Opus Dei”? He also has an even odder point about a poster that “stereotyped” Western Canadians — something about a cowboy hat. Also, Stephen Harper went to the opening of the largest Mosque in Canada earlier this year, so clearly, he loves pluralism and diversity too.

3:37:57 PM
A final question: Manon reminds him that these are “very grave allegations” – we – Quebec – spent a year tearing ourselves up about this, so she wants concrete examples.

Kenney once again brings up that “minority Catholic organization” and seems genuinely unable to come up with any other example of Parizeau-ian intolerance. Manon is getting snappish – she wants an example of the Bloc sowing xenophobia against ethnic cultures.

“Do you have any?” Manon demands. No, he actually doesn’t, but he thinks faith is as “difficult” as culture.

And that’s it. Wow, I wonder how that’ll play in Quebec.

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  • FrustratedVoter

    Kady, have you ever considered that you might be enabling Jason Kenney? I’m sorta baffled as to how a bunch of personal attacks on other politicians is really news (although I do appreciate your colleagues from Quebec’s continued effort to pin Mr. Kenny down on Opus Dei).

    As for Bob Rae, he’s not one of my favourite politicians, but to be fair to him, he inherited an economy that started tanking just after he took office. His response ended up being wrong, but was not unreasonable given what he thought was the extent of the problem. And, in any case, he’s certainly not responsible for the loss of manufacturing capacity that’s happening now in Ontario.

  • Wascally Wabbit

    Kady – by Kenney playing the Steve Martin part – surely you mean Ruprecht in Dirty Rotten Scoundrels… ;-) – no doubt that comparison will put some fire in JWL’s next round of jeering
    [BTW - I inserted the smiley face just for you...]

  • Dr Riff

    13 Families own all the International banks, the oil-businesses, the most powerful businesses of industry and trade, they infiltrate politics and they own most governments – or at least control them. An example of this is the election. It is no secret that the candidate who gets the most sponsorship in form of money wins the election, as this gives the power to “un-create” the opposed candidate. And who sponsors the “right” candidate? The 13 do. More often than not they sponsor both sides to have a game going. They decide who will be the next leader, and they see to that their man wins, even if they have to cheat……

    i copied and slightly modified that

  • keith by the Bruce

    comment by john g on Wednesday, September 17, 2008 at 3:35 pm: Wow.Dion just admitted that he hasn’t ruled out running a deficit to finance his platform.Talk about handing the economy issue to Harper on a silver platter.I guess Bob Rae’s influence is coming to bear.

    Bob Rae had 12 years work experience when handed the largest economy in Canada . Do you think a 30 year man may be slightly better ?

  • http://deleted Sandi

    Excuse me….but I doubt Rae would be Finance Minister.

    Kenney looks so stupid, like he’s in a panic and to me, it makes the CPC look scared.

    It is so dumb

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  • sbt

    “Bob Rae had 12 years work experience when handed the largest economy in Canada . Do you think a 30 year man may be slightly better?”

    I’d rather not find out if an experienced Bob Rae is better than a less experienced Bob Rae. I just want Bob Rae to go away. The next time I want $10+ billion deficits and unemployment rates north of 10% I’ll give him a call. I also think his move to cap the enrollment in medical schools was one of the most bone-headed policy moves in recent history. The only good thing that came from Rae’s premiership was the election of Mike Harris.

  • bob

    This thread is hilarious.

    Defend Rae’s record. It really wasn’t his fault.

    Aw, let’s vote for him because we pity his plight.

    You guys are completely pathetic!!

    Rae’s been completely absent from Toronto Centre but nary a word from Kady and the cheerleaders. They only blast the absentee Conservatives.

    You go girls!

    A vote for Dion is a vote for the media party!

  • Richard

    I hope this means tomorrow we get a similar stunt news conference where Mark Holland or Robert Thibault unveils Brian Mulroney as Stephen Harper’s senior advisor….

  • RyanD

    Yes Bob, the media has been so helpful to the Libs. For example- apperantly the Liberal campaign is in disarray! But have you heard anything about it? Not a word! Dion’s campaign plane had a mishap- again nothing! And the way they put the CMAJ letter slamming Harper for mishandling public health front and center while ignoring all this other Liberal stuff?!! I mean seriously!!…oops…wait….that is the complete opposite of the truth…hmm…I guess that is how things look in Tory World…now THAT is pathetic!

  • http://www.macleans.ca Kady O’Malley

    Bob – I’m an Ottawa girl, born and bred – I definitely didn’t grow up in Rae’s riding. To be honest, I’m not sure in whose riding I *did* grew up. Not that that would have anything at all to do with — well, anything.

  • Terry

    I’ll be the first to admit I don’t know much about Quebec. But I had thought the concern about discrimination against ethnic minorities was pretty much came out hatred of religion in general, and the desire to remove the Catholic Church from public life in particular. Wasn’t the feeling among seperatists that everyone will/should eventually be french-speaking secularists in Quebec, and everyone else is just a reactionary?

    How does this play outside of urban Quebec? Is there more sympathy for the Church outside of Quebec City and Montreal? Is this an attempt for the Tories to reopen the wounds of the Bouchard-Taylor commission, and attempt to spin people of faith against the Bloc and Parti Quebecois who are very left wing and anti-religious?

  • http://politicalpicture.blogspot.com/ nbt

    I’m sure there were a few Tories assistant coaches that were anxious to dust off the old Rae play book with all those juicy quotes. Although, I’m sure the Ignatieff one is thicker (and more complex) since the leaked Finley memo two years ago said they feared Iggy the most:

    “Offering his assessment of the top four contenders in the Liberal contest, Finley confides that rookie Toronto MP and acclaimed scholar Michael Ignatieff would be the most formidable foe for the Conservatives.

    Bob Rae, on the other hand, would have trouble overcoming his turbulent, recession-ravaged record as Ontario NDP premier during the early 1990s.”

  • bob

    Remember Bob Rae’s solution for rising health care costs during population growth and an aging population? Cut the number of doctors enrolled in Universities.

    Will he cut the number of, business, commerce and economics students to avoid recession?

    No mention of Rae’s real record: Doctor shortages, bad policy, out-of-control economy and the hope that after a few years hiding at a big Toronto law firm everyone would just forget.

  • RyanD

    Good question Terry. Good God, caught between the Bloc and the Tories! I love Quebec but when I think of being put in that situation it makes me glad I left!

  • RyanD

    Bob- Again, I’m not a Rae supporter but much of his “hiding” was done as a Prof at U of T (Canada’s largest educational institution) and during his apperant time incognito he managed to publish quite a bit, including a couple of books if I’m not mistaken. It seems his hiding skills need work.

  • Jack Mitchell

    Can someone remind me what Bob Rae did wrong, from a Tory point of view?

    He ran a Keynesian deficit; he tried to cut back on government expenditure (to the extent of giving the finger to the public sector unions); he had a pathetic cabinet.

    Sounds like the Tories should be eager to sign him up. Especially in about 12 months. If I were the Tories, reasonably confident of forming the next government, I wouldn’t start blaming recessions on the governing party.

  • Cool Blue

    During the Bob Rae years, my hometown had an unemployment rate of 26%, 60% of the population was on some form of social assistance and the suicide rate was triple the provincial average.

    He doubled the provincial debt in 6 months which we’re still trying to pay off.

    This man should never be anywhere near the levers of government again.

    Think about it: not even the NDP want him.

  • iggy

    So let me see if I understand this, the conservatives are going after Rae for his leadership record base of 4years of power over a decade ago. But in Ontario we are still paying for the mess left behind by Harris/Eves and 3 members of their cabinet, that are current members of cabinet.
    Really is the pot calling the kettle black.

  • Beary

    Add to me the voices denouncing Rae. I really like Dion. I’m praying the Liberals win. But bringing out Rae is bringing up horrific reminders of what he did to Ontario. We are STILL suffering healthcare woes which originated with RAE and was then worsened by HARRIS!

    Honestly. Anyone under the age of 40 probably has no understanding of those years. I’ve read college bloggers who support Liberals and rave about Rae. They absolutely terrify me because they don’t know what they’re talking about. They haven’t lived it. And I don’t care what the deficit was when Rae won. He didn’t know what the F he was doing and wouldn’t listen to anyone trying to tell him.

    He wrote a book after leaving politics, supposedly denouncing his previous beliefs. He’s grown and learned, so he said. Then we have Kenney telling us Rae said earlier JUST THIS YEAR that his views are unchanged and the same as when he was PMO. So sorry, Rae needs to go away. NOW. Or else I am voting Green.

  • Jack Mitchell

    I LOVE Rae because the Rae Days were the only reason I finished a big essay in high school. Long live Rae, the Student’s Friend!

  • keith by the Bruce

    Dion challenged Harper to a debate on the Green Shift months ago .

    Are you hiding behind Lizzy Mays skirt stevie boy ?

  • keith by the Bruce

    Posted AT 6:09 PM EDT on 21/06/08

    Angry Dion calls for debate with Harper on climate change

    CIARA BYRNE The Canadian Press

    TORONTO — Liberal Leader Stéphane Dion has scolded Stephen Harper over his criticism of the Liberals’ so-called green shift, challenging the prime minister Saturday to an “adult” debate on the issue. Mr. Harper told a small crowd in Saskatoon on Friday that the Liberals’ carbon tax proposal would ”screw everybody across the country.

  • http://myjourneywithaids.wordpress.com/ Kenn Chaplin

    With Kenney’s conspiracy theories and Chicken Little predictions is it any wonder the comments on websites (not this one of course) are so apocalyptic concerning the Greens and the Liberals (sometimes taken seperately, sometimes together)?

  • Deb Prothero

    Next time there’s a news conference, Kady, maybe you should consider what else is going on that Harper and Kenney are trying to hide from your fleeting fingers. I’d say the Canadian public would have been better served if you’d shuffled on over to the courthouse today instead. Kenney had nothing.

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