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	<title>Comments on: Macleans.ca liveblog &#8211; Canadian Leadership Debate &#8211; Day 1</title>
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		<title>By: Shaker</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2008/10/01/macleansca-liveblog-canadian-leadership-debate-day-1/comment-page-9/#comment-30850</link>
		<dc:creator>Shaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 14:26:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is Stephen Harper an honest person ? That&#039;s a great question dude. I got my doubts on this. I can&#039;t figure out this dude, when in 1996 in New-York he told the board of Manhattan economics that Canada was a running gag from the old Europe way of thoughts. he hates frenchmens, first of all, and now he craves on them for power !!!!

Sounds to me, like someone who ask you to go take a shower and then, turn on the steam pipes and chokes you to death.

Don&#039;t trust this dude at all !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is Stephen Harper an honest person ? That&#8217;s a great question dude. I got my doubts on this. I can&#8217;t figure out this dude, when in 1996 in New-York he told the board of Manhattan economics that Canada was a running gag from the old Europe way of thoughts. he hates frenchmens, first of all, and now he craves on them for power !!!!</p>
<p>Sounds to me, like someone who ask you to go take a shower and then, turn on the steam pipes and chokes you to death.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t trust this dude at all !</p>
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		<title>By: Canadian Leadership Debate Liveblogging Round-up &#124; Keebler/Blog</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2008/10/01/macleansca-liveblog-canadian-leadership-debate-day-1/comment-page-9/#comment-30849</link>
		<dc:creator>Canadian Leadership Debate Liveblogging Round-up &#124; Keebler/Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 14:14:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the second night in a row, Maclean&#8217;s was liveblogging the debate too. They were using crossposting to send all [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the second night in a row, Maclean&#8217;s was liveblogging the debate too. They were using crossposting to send all [...]</p>
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		<title>By: den den</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2008/10/01/macleansca-liveblog-canadian-leadership-debate-day-1/comment-page-9/#comment-30848</link>
		<dc:creator>den den</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 01:45:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t follow Dion and do not understand why Mae is there. JAck is ok if he can loose his smile. Harper is doing better a lot then yesterday.

When you look at the candidates, Harper stands out as the best to represent Canada worlwide. But is he really honest?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t follow Dion and do not understand why Mae is there. JAck is ok if he can loose his smile. Harper is doing better a lot then yesterday.</p>
<p>When you look at the candidates, Harper stands out as the best to represent Canada worlwide. But is he really honest?</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Caplan</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2008/10/01/macleansca-liveblog-canadian-leadership-debate-day-1/comment-page-9/#comment-30847</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Caplan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 01:29:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This debate is not a debate it is a &quot;pick on Stephen Harper&quot;. The mediator has no control over what is now shouting match. The reason we wanted to hear is that we wanted to know what the other leaders were going to offer. As it is a total waste of time. What kind of a country is this one that can put together such a dreadful DEBATE.
Is everyone so afraid of Stephen Harper that they have nothing to say about their own party?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This debate is not a debate it is a &#8220;pick on Stephen Harper&#8221;. The mediator has no control over what is now shouting match. The reason we wanted to hear is that we wanted to know what the other leaders were going to offer. As it is a total waste of time. What kind of a country is this one that can put together such a dreadful DEBATE.<br />
Is everyone so afraid of Stephen Harper that they have nothing to say about their own party?</p>
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		<title>By: Way more fun than actually watching the debate &#124; michaelcrook.ca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Way more fun than actually watching the debate &#124; michaelcrook.ca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 00:45:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Here the link. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Here the link. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Blue Like You &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Waiting for the &#8216;but&#8217;</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2008/10/01/macleansca-liveblog-canadian-leadership-debate-day-1/comment-page-9/#comment-30845</link>
		<dc:creator>Blue Like You &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Waiting for the &#8216;but&#8217;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 19:38:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] In any case, her performance was disgusting and mean-spirited. National Post has a few notes at the 8:58 mark, as does Macleans. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] In any case, her performance was disgusting and mean-spirited. National Post has a few notes at the 8:58 mark, as does Macleans. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2008/10/01/macleansca-liveblog-canadian-leadership-debate-day-1/comment-page-9/#comment-30844</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 17:44:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shaker, if you ever get the number of this woman, pass it on, please. I wouldn&#039;t miss out on a date with this awsum diva. And for your pizza parlor in case you need to grab a snack...call LaBella cucina.

See ya Dude.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shaker, if you ever get the number of this woman, pass it on, please. I wouldn&#8217;t miss out on a date with this awsum diva. And for your pizza parlor in case you need to grab a snack&#8230;call LaBella cucina.</p>
<p>See ya Dude.</p>
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		<title>By: Shaker</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2008/10/01/macleansca-liveblog-canadian-leadership-debate-day-1/comment-page-9/#comment-30843</link>
		<dc:creator>Shaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 17:38:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is there a number of a great Pizza place i should call for tonight&#039;s debate ? I just crave Pizza when i see a bunch of lunatics going on each others back for the politic agenda.

And can someone give me the phone number of Julie Couillard, i&#039;m single and i need a story of myself in the next Mclean magazine.

thanks dudes and dudettes !

The Shaker</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there a number of a great Pizza place i should call for tonight&#8217;s debate ? I just crave Pizza when i see a bunch of lunatics going on each others back for the politic agenda.</p>
<p>And can someone give me the phone number of Julie Couillard, i&#8217;m single and i need a story of myself in the next Mclean magazine.</p>
<p>thanks dudes and dudettes !</p>
<p>The Shaker</p>
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		<title>By: Grading the graders of the leaders debate &#171; The Prairie Wrangler</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2008/10/01/macleansca-liveblog-canadian-leadership-debate-day-1/comment-page-9/#comment-30842</link>
		<dc:creator>Grading the graders of the leaders debate &#171; The Prairie Wrangler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 16:49:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] ten are grading the leaders on the last night&#8217;s debate, I think I&#8217;ll grade the graders at Macleans, on last night&#8217;s debate. That&#8217;s right, I&#8217;m putting the media on [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] ten are grading the leaders on the last night&#8217;s debate, I think I&#8217;ll grade the graders at Macleans, on last night&#8217;s debate. That&#8217;s right, I&#8217;m putting the media on [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Blue Like You &#187; Blog Archive &#187; What about those translators?</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2008/10/01/macleansca-liveblog-canadian-leadership-debate-day-1/comment-page-9/#comment-30841</link>
		<dc:creator>Blue Like You &#187; Blog Archive &#187; What about those translators?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 14:13:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the only one noticing this. Many of my readers commented on it in the previous post , and even the Maclean&#8217;s live-blogging team noticed it: 9:11 PM Kady O’Malley - Kady O’Malley: Dion should consider having this Scottish [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the only one noticing this. Many of my readers commented on it in the previous post , and even the Maclean&#8217;s live-blogging team noticed it: 9:11 PM Kady O’Malley &#8211; Kady O’Malley: Dion should consider having this Scottish [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Daily Blogger - Thursday, October 2nd, 2008&#160;&#124;&#160;Jack&#8217;s Newswatch</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2008/10/01/macleansca-liveblog-canadian-leadership-debate-day-1/comment-page-9/#comment-30840</link>
		<dc:creator>Daily Blogger - Thursday, October 2nd, 2008&#160;&#124;&#160;Jack&#8217;s Newswatch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 12:58:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] crew at Maclean&#8217;s were united in their mockery: 8:56 PM Andrew Coyne - When do they start passing the orange without [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] crew at Maclean&#8217;s were united in their mockery: 8:56 PM Andrew Coyne &#8211; When do they start passing the orange without [...]</p>
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		<title>By: So, did y&#8217;all have fun last night? : Capital Read : Inside the Queensway : Macleans.ca Blog Central</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2008/10/01/macleansca-liveblog-canadian-leadership-debate-day-1/comment-page-9/#comment-30839</link>
		<dc:creator>So, did y&#8217;all have fun last night? : Capital Read : Inside the Queensway : Macleans.ca Blog Central</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 12:32:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the storm &#8226; eye of the debatestorm &#8226; meta meta &#8226; where the heck is itq?    I know we did &#8212; and yes, as far as I know, we&#8217;ll be doing it all over again during the English [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the storm &bull; eye of the debatestorm &bull; meta meta &bull; where the heck is itq?    I know we did &#8212; and yes, as far as I know, we&#8217;ll be doing it all over again during the English [...]</p>
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		<title>By: RyanD</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2008/10/01/macleansca-liveblog-canadian-leadership-debate-day-1/comment-page-9/#comment-30838</link>
		<dc:creator>RyanD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 11:16:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dot- THANK YOU!!! You actually managed to find a way to shut him up!!! You are officially my new hero!!! Who knew accountability for his statements was Kody&#039;s Kryptonite?!
To the Maclean&#039;s crew- Echoing several comments so far- Great job! It was an enjoyable read and it really added to the debate for me. Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dot- THANK YOU!!! You actually managed to find a way to shut him up!!! You are officially my new hero!!! Who knew accountability for his statements was Kody&#8217;s Kryptonite?!<br />
To the Maclean&#8217;s crew- Echoing several comments so far- Great job! It was an enjoyable read and it really added to the debate for me. Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: Bene D</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2008/10/01/macleansca-liveblog-canadian-leadership-debate-day-1/comment-page-9/#comment-30837</link>
		<dc:creator>Bene D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 09:11:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this, it was a fun read.
Blog on!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this, it was a fun read.<br />
Blog on!</p>
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		<title>By: Robin</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2008/10/01/macleansca-liveblog-canadian-leadership-debate-day-1/comment-page-8/#comment-30836</link>
		<dc:creator>Robin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 06:26:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>8:30 PM Martin Patriquin - I’m already drunk — on love.
8:30 PM Philippe Gohier - What Marty meant to say is we’re liveblogging this together.

In case you don&#039;t get it often enough, you&#039;re fantastic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>8:30 PM Martin Patriquin &#8211; I’m already drunk — on love.<br />
8:30 PM Philippe Gohier &#8211; What Marty meant to say is we’re liveblogging this together.</p>
<p>In case you don&#8217;t get it often enough, you&#8217;re fantastic.</p>
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		<title>By: Deb Prothero</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2008/10/01/macleansca-liveblog-canadian-leadership-debate-day-1/comment-page-8/#comment-30835</link>
		<dc:creator>Deb Prothero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 04:52:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;comment by Steve Janke on Wednesday, October 1, 2008 at 9:01 pm:
Conspiracy, Aaron? Hardly. The point is that this was not an anonymous $200 donation link that could have been made for any number of reasons, but a personal and significant connection. Does that lead to a conspiracy? Not. But to suugest that Stephen Harper is calling Attaran out as a friend of members of the current Liberals on the basis of a donation is unfair to Harper.&lt;/i&gt;

When Harper releases his leadership supporters&#039; list, then maybe Canadians will care who donated $200 to Dion&#039;s campaign.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>comment by Steve Janke on Wednesday, October 1, 2008 at 9:01 pm:<br />
Conspiracy, Aaron? Hardly. The point is that this was not an anonymous $200 donation link that could have been made for any number of reasons, but a personal and significant connection. Does that lead to a conspiracy? Not. But to suugest that Stephen Harper is calling Attaran out as a friend of members of the current Liberals on the basis of a donation is unfair to Harper.</i></p>
<p>When Harper releases his leadership supporters&#8217; list, then maybe Canadians will care who donated $200 to Dion&#8217;s campaign.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike G</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2008/10/01/macleansca-liveblog-canadian-leadership-debate-day-1/comment-page-8/#comment-30834</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 04:26:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That was great fun to read, great work guys.

How the hell am I supposed to watch two debates AND read macleans.ca at the same time? I need a bigger budget. Prime Minister!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was great fun to read, great work guys.</p>
<p>How the hell am I supposed to watch two debates AND read macleans.ca at the same time? I need a bigger budget. Prime Minister!</p>
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		<title>By: Just visiting</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2008/10/01/macleansca-liveblog-canadian-leadership-debate-day-1/comment-page-8/#comment-30833</link>
		<dc:creator>Just visiting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 04:16:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If it worked for you writer people, then it worked for me as a reader.

You should just go with the UnstableScribble, or WhateverTF it&#039;s called.

If it isn&#039;t right, then complain, but the point is, just go with it.

- JV</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it worked for you writer people, then it worked for me as a reader.</p>
<p>You should just go with the UnstableScribble, or WhateverTF it&#8217;s called.</p>
<p>If it isn&#8217;t right, then complain, but the point is, just go with it.</p>
<p>- JV</p>
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		<title>By: SteveV</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2008/10/01/macleansca-liveblog-canadian-leadership-debate-day-1/comment-page-8/#comment-30832</link>
		<dc:creator>SteveV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 04:13:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jarrid

LOL.  What spin?  I cited a sampling from TVA, you know the voters.  They said Dion won, not me.  Just the facts.

You&#039;re a joke.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jarrid</p>
<p>LOL.  What spin?  I cited a sampling from TVA, you know the voters.  They said Dion won, not me.  Just the facts.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re a joke.</p>
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		<title>By: Dot</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2008/10/01/macleansca-liveblog-canadian-leadership-debate-day-1/comment-page-8/#comment-30831</link>
		<dc:creator>Dot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 04:13:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve concluded by his obvious avoidance (while posting partisan stuff on Wells&#039;s blog) that he would face losing income for the next two weeks as well when he goes down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve concluded by his obvious avoidance (while posting partisan stuff on Wells&#8217;s blog) that he would face losing income for the next two weeks as well when he goes down.</p>
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		<title>By: whomper</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2008/10/01/macleansca-liveblog-canadian-leadership-debate-day-1/comment-page-8/#comment-30830</link>
		<dc:creator>whomper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 04:12:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glad all of you enjoyed your circle jerk tonight. Thanks for adding nothing to the election.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad all of you enjoyed your circle jerk tonight. Thanks for adding nothing to the election.</p>
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		<title>By: Darren Trent</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2008/10/01/macleansca-liveblog-canadian-leadership-debate-day-1/comment-page-8/#comment-30829</link>
		<dc:creator>Darren Trent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 04:07:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Tell you what. If CPC’s numbers go up tomorrow (Nanos three day poll), I will stop posting on the Maclean’s site - if you will stop posting if the numbers go down.
&lt;/i&gt;

Dude..Dot&#039;s calling you out!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Tell you what. If CPC’s numbers go up tomorrow (Nanos three day poll), I will stop posting on the Maclean’s site &#8211; if you will stop posting if the numbers go down.<br />
</i></p>
<p>Dude..Dot&#8217;s calling you out!</p>
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		<title>By: Representative sampling &#171; Empire of Dirt</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2008/10/01/macleansca-liveblog-canadian-leadership-debate-day-1/comment-page-8/#comment-30828</link>
		<dc:creator>Representative sampling &#171; Empire of Dirt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 04:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] matter, the Macleans liveblog was way better.     &#171; Even if I can&#8217;t force Toronto media gays to [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] matter, the Macleans liveblog was way better.     &laquo; Even if I can&#8217;t force Toronto media gays to [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jarrid</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2008/10/01/macleansca-liveblog-canadian-leadership-debate-day-1/comment-page-8/#comment-30827</link>
		<dc:creator>Jarrid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 04:03:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve V first Liberal blogger to come with his Liberal blogger post-debate spin.

Hate to break it to you Toronto-area bloggers but the Liberals have been dead in the water in Quebec since day 1 so even if Dion was brilliant in this debate, and he wasn&#039;t, it wouldn&#039;t matter a whit.  Nobody listens to him in Quebec, he&#039;s been a dead man walking there for some time.

Some of the media in his scrum were telling him he didn&#039;t interact in the debate that much but most listeners have a low tolerance for too much Dion, so him keeping his mouth shut for most of the debate was actually a good tactic.  I mean that sincerely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve V first Liberal blogger to come with his Liberal blogger post-debate spin.</p>
<p>Hate to break it to you Toronto-area bloggers but the Liberals have been dead in the water in Quebec since day 1 so even if Dion was brilliant in this debate, and he wasn&#8217;t, it wouldn&#8217;t matter a whit.  Nobody listens to him in Quebec, he&#8217;s been a dead man walking there for some time.</p>
<p>Some of the media in his scrum were telling him he didn&#8217;t interact in the debate that much but most listeners have a low tolerance for too much Dion, so him keeping his mouth shut for most of the debate was actually a good tactic.  I mean that sincerely.</p>
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		<title>By: Ti-Guy</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2008/10/01/macleansca-liveblog-canadian-leadership-debate-day-1/comment-page-8/#comment-30826</link>
		<dc:creator>Ti-Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 04:01:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Yes. Please do.&lt;/i&gt;

Don&#039;t start with me, Ranter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Yes. Please do.</i></p>
<p>Don&#8217;t start with me, Ranter.</p>
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		<title>By: Ti-Guy</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2008/10/01/macleansca-liveblog-canadian-leadership-debate-day-1/comment-page-8/#comment-30825</link>
		<dc:creator>Ti-Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 04:00:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Ti-Guy, if, by “nailed it”, you mean “didn’t collapse”, the indeed, yes.&lt;/i&gt;

I was being a Lib-bot.

I don&#039;t know why I would expect Dion to collapse, but then, I&#039;ve been paying attention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Ti-Guy, if, by “nailed it”, you mean “didn’t collapse”, the indeed, yes.</i></p>
<p>I was being a Lib-bot.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know why I would expect Dion to collapse, but then, I&#8217;ve been paying attention.</p>
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		<title>By: Just visiting</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2008/10/01/macleansca-liveblog-canadian-leadership-debate-day-1/comment-page-8/#comment-30824</link>
		<dc:creator>Just visiting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 03:53:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ti-Guy, if, by &quot;nailed it&quot;, you mean &quot;didn&#039;t collapse&quot;, the indeed, yes.

Hope this holds up until the 14th, don&#039;t you?

- JV</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ti-Guy, if, by &#8220;nailed it&#8221;, you mean &#8220;didn&#8217;t collapse&#8221;, the indeed, yes.</p>
<p>Hope this holds up until the 14th, don&#8217;t you?</p>
<p>- JV</p>
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		<title>By: SteveV</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2008/10/01/macleansca-liveblog-canadian-leadership-debate-day-1/comment-page-8/#comment-30823</link>
		<dc:creator>SteveV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 03:37:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone can SPIN away.  All I know, a Quebec television post-debate sampling of vote opinion gave it too......DION.  I believe it was &quot;hands down&quot;, or something like that.

Ah, what do the VOTERS know :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone can SPIN away.  All I know, a Quebec television post-debate sampling of vote opinion gave it too&#8230;&#8230;DION.  I believe it was &#8220;hands down&#8221;, or something like that.</p>
<p>Ah, what do the VOTERS know :)</p>
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		<title>By: Dot</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2008/10/01/macleansca-liveblog-canadian-leadership-debate-day-1/comment-page-8/#comment-30822</link>
		<dc:creator>Dot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 03:37:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, a deal Kody? Just want this to be on the record.

Show me and others that you have some &quot;clothes&quot; and that you&#039;re a person who stands behind what you constantly repeat ad nauseum.

Don&#039;t do the cowardly lion thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, a deal Kody? Just want this to be on the record.</p>
<p>Show me and others that you have some &#8220;clothes&#8221; and that you&#8217;re a person who stands behind what you constantly repeat ad nauseum.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t do the cowardly lion thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Raging Ranter</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2008/10/01/macleansca-liveblog-canadian-leadership-debate-day-1/comment-page-8/#comment-30821</link>
		<dc:creator>Raging Ranter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 03:34:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Ti-Guy:&lt;/b&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&quot;…here comes the post-debate punditry.
Take me now, Lord.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Yes. Please do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Ti-Guy:</b><br />
<i>&#8220;…here comes the post-debate punditry.<br />
Take me now, Lord.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Yes. Please do.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2008/10/01/macleansca-liveblog-canadian-leadership-debate-day-1/comment-page-8/#comment-30820</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 03:26:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve Janke said:

&quot;I backed up and watched the whole segment twice. Stephen Harper seemed to be the only person who didn’t use the say-nice game to say something nasty. And everyone says the blue sweater thing was a cynical ploy.&quot;

All Harper did was list his own legislative accomplishments. To paraphrase, &quot;Remember, we brought in this fantastic piece of legislation, and you supported it? That was great, Jack.&quot;

You watched how many times and still missed that?

At least May looked like she was sincerely *trying* to say something nice. It wasn&#039;t an easy task.

If I had been in her seat, I would have said something like, &quot;Mr. Harper is the most skillful media manipulator this country has ever seen. He has done everything in his power to bar the press from covering his government for almost three years, and yet somehow he can still get cameras to show up and photograph him shoulder-patting his daughter.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve Janke said:</p>
<p>&#8220;I backed up and watched the whole segment twice. Stephen Harper seemed to be the only person who didn’t use the say-nice game to say something nasty. And everyone says the blue sweater thing was a cynical ploy.&#8221;</p>
<p>All Harper did was list his own legislative accomplishments. To paraphrase, &#8220;Remember, we brought in this fantastic piece of legislation, and you supported it? That was great, Jack.&#8221;</p>
<p>You watched how many times and still missed that?</p>
<p>At least May looked like she was sincerely *trying* to say something nice. It wasn&#8217;t an easy task.</p>
<p>If I had been in her seat, I would have said something like, &#8220;Mr. Harper is the most skillful media manipulator this country has ever seen. He has done everything in his power to bar the press from covering his government for almost three years, and yet somehow he can still get cameras to show up and photograph him shoulder-patting his daughter.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Dot</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2008/10/01/macleansca-liveblog-canadian-leadership-debate-day-1/comment-page-8/#comment-30819</link>
		<dc:creator>Dot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 03:19:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I welcome reasoned argument from all perspectives. Your loss will not be mine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I welcome reasoned argument from all perspectives. Your loss will not be mine.</p>
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		<title>By: kody</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2008/10/01/macleansca-liveblog-canadian-leadership-debate-day-1/comment-page-8/#comment-30818</link>
		<dc:creator>kody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 03:17:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you think silencing opposing viewpoints is a good thing,

Dot?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you think silencing opposing viewpoints is a good thing,</p>
<p>Dot?</p>
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		<title>By: Dot</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2008/10/01/macleansca-liveblog-canadian-leadership-debate-day-1/comment-page-8/#comment-30817</link>
		<dc:creator>Dot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 03:13:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kody,

Tell you what. If CPC&#039;s numbers go up tomorrow (Nanos three day poll), I will stop posting on the Maclean&#039;s site - if you will stop posting if the numbers go down.

Deal?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kody,</p>
<p>Tell you what. If CPC&#8217;s numbers go up tomorrow (Nanos three day poll), I will stop posting on the Maclean&#8217;s site &#8211; if you will stop posting if the numbers go down.</p>
<p>Deal?</p>
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		<title>By: stewacide</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2008/10/01/macleansca-liveblog-canadian-leadership-debate-day-1/comment-page-8/#comment-30816</link>
		<dc:creator>stewacide</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 03:11:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I absolutely can&#039;t stand that &quot;all experts/economists/scientists/interest-groups agree with me...&quot; appeal to authority. Dion, May, and Duceppe do it &lt;i&gt;constantly&lt;/i&gt;. Harper and Layton to their great credit can make and defend their own arguments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I absolutely can&#8217;t stand that &#8220;all experts/economists/scientists/interest-groups agree with me&#8230;&#8221; appeal to authority. Dion, May, and Duceppe do it <i>constantly</i>. Harper and Layton to their great credit can make and defend their own arguments.</p>
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		<title>By: J. Kelly</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2008/10/01/macleansca-liveblog-canadian-leadership-debate-day-1/comment-page-8/#comment-30815</link>
		<dc:creator>J. Kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 03:11:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I took French until about Grade 11 and never spoken it since. I can understand everything May says. That’s a bad thing.&quot;

It makes no difference. An anglo is an anglo whether they speak fluently or not. Quebecers can tell.

Duceppe wins.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I took French until about Grade 11 and never spoken it since. I can understand everything May says. That’s a bad thing.&#8221;</p>
<p>It makes no difference. An anglo is an anglo whether they speak fluently or not. Quebecers can tell.</p>
<p>Duceppe wins.</p>
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		<title>By: kody</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2008/10/01/macleansca-liveblog-canadian-leadership-debate-day-1/comment-page-8/#comment-30814</link>
		<dc:creator>kody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 03:09:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dot &quot;Ha!&quot;??

Actually no.

It all depends on how poorly the CPC polled on Sunday.

That&#039;s my whole point.

If Sunday was particularly bad (as I contend is the case due to undersampling) then they may need no increase today at all.

Sunday&#039;s low numbers are dropped off, and

voila.

Maybe you should put a few more &quot;plugs&quot; into that excel spreadsheet,

play around with it for awhile,

you&#039;ll figure it out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dot &#8220;Ha!&#8221;??</p>
<p>Actually no.</p>
<p>It all depends on how poorly the CPC polled on Sunday.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s my whole point.</p>
<p>If Sunday was particularly bad (as I contend is the case due to undersampling) then they may need no increase today at all.</p>
<p>Sunday&#8217;s low numbers are dropped off, and</p>
<p>voila.</p>
<p>Maybe you should put a few more &#8220;plugs&#8221; into that excel spreadsheet,</p>
<p>play around with it for awhile,</p>
<p>you&#8217;ll figure it out.</p>
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		<title>By: Jarrid</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2008/10/01/macleansca-liveblog-canadian-leadership-debate-day-1/comment-page-8/#comment-30813</link>
		<dc:creator>Jarrid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 03:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two Cents - Dion is a typical lefty that way, trust the experts, not the people.  The more compicated and abstract the answer, the better it is for him.  Common sense is not this man&#039;s strong suit.  In two weeks the Liberals will be looking for a new leader and the Liberals and the Canadian public can be thankful for that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two Cents &#8211; Dion is a typical lefty that way, trust the experts, not the people.  The more compicated and abstract the answer, the better it is for him.  Common sense is not this man&#8217;s strong suit.  In two weeks the Liberals will be looking for a new leader and the Liberals and the Canadian public can be thankful for that.</p>
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		<title>By: Two Cents</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2008/10/01/macleansca-liveblog-canadian-leadership-debate-day-1/comment-page-8/#comment-30812</link>
		<dc:creator>Two Cents</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 02:59:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to work for Don Drummond. He&#039;s a smart economist. But don&#039;t we live in a democracy? Dion thinks if Don Drummond says we should adopt his green shift that the Parliament is just supposed to respond with &quot;Ready, aye, ready. Don&#039;t the people have a say?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to work for Don Drummond. He&#8217;s a smart economist. But don&#8217;t we live in a democracy? Dion thinks if Don Drummond says we should adopt his green shift that the Parliament is just supposed to respond with &#8220;Ready, aye, ready. Don&#8217;t the people have a say?</p>
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		<title>By: Dot</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2008/10/01/macleansca-liveblog-canadian-leadership-debate-day-1/comment-page-7/#comment-30811</link>
		<dc:creator>Dot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 02:54:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So 39?  Ha!  That means tonight they have to poll at 44 plus 9 = 53 (or 50 at +2).

No chance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So 39?  Ha!  That means tonight they have to poll at 44 plus 9 = 53 (or 50 at +2).</p>
<p>No chance.</p>
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		<title>By: kody</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2008/10/01/macleansca-liveblog-canadian-leadership-debate-day-1/comment-page-7/#comment-30810</link>
		<dc:creator>kody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 02:53:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rule of thumb regarding post debate pundits&#039; analysis:

they&#039;re almost always wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rule of thumb regarding post debate pundits&#8217; analysis:</p>
<p>they&#8217;re almost always wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: kody</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2008/10/01/macleansca-liveblog-canadian-leadership-debate-day-1/comment-page-7/#comment-30809</link>
		<dc:creator>kody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 02:51:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dot,

Cons up by three from today (maybe two, but no less).

Cheers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dot,</p>
<p>Cons up by three from today (maybe two, but no less).</p>
<p>Cheers.</p>
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		<title>By: Jarrid</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2008/10/01/macleansca-liveblog-canadian-leadership-debate-day-1/comment-page-7/#comment-30808</link>
		<dc:creator>Jarrid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 02:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kinsella says Duceppe won the debate.  He agrees with my view that May&#039;s performance made her look less like a leader.  Here&#039;s what he says:

&quot;Foolishly, May called Harper a “liar,” a “joke,” and a fraud artist over Kyoto; whether you think those epithets are accurate or not, May looked less like a leader, Harper more – because he didn’t erupt.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kinsella says Duceppe won the debate.  He agrees with my view that May&#8217;s performance made her look less like a leader.  Here&#8217;s what he says:</p>
<p>&#8220;Foolishly, May called Harper a “liar,” a “joke,” and a fraud artist over Kyoto; whether you think those epithets are accurate or not, May looked less like a leader, Harper more – because he didn’t erupt.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Ti-Guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ti-Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 02:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So Liberals, didn&#039;t Dion nail it?  Oh, he &lt;i&gt;nailed&lt;/i&gt; it.  He so not a notaleader.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Liberals, didn&#8217;t Dion nail it?  Oh, he <i>nailed</i> it.  He so not a notaleader.</p>
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		<title>By: Jarrid</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2008/10/01/macleansca-liveblog-canadian-leadership-debate-day-1/comment-page-7/#comment-30806</link>
		<dc:creator>Jarrid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 02:36:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The new debate format was good.  I thought Harper, Dion, Duceppe and Layton all did well.  Dion was a tad emotional at times which came across as self-rightiousness.

One odd thing about the debate is that we found out next to nothing about the parties&#039; platforms which I think is unfortunate.  The exception was the Conservative platform which Harper seemed to have more time to outline in response to the numrerous questions he got.

May came across, to the extent that she came across at all, as a bit of a fanatic.  She doesn&#039;t come across as the leader of a party.  She still comports herself like the head of an NGO.  Too bad for the Greens.  She also showed her fanaticism and/or lack of class in her response to the question of saying something nice about the leader next to her, which was Harper.  Her answer came across as mean-spirited and petty.  She was worse in the press conference after the debate.  It just makes her look like a fanatic and not a party leader.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The new debate format was good.  I thought Harper, Dion, Duceppe and Layton all did well.  Dion was a tad emotional at times which came across as self-rightiousness.</p>
<p>One odd thing about the debate is that we found out next to nothing about the parties&#8217; platforms which I think is unfortunate.  The exception was the Conservative platform which Harper seemed to have more time to outline in response to the numrerous questions he got.</p>
<p>May came across, to the extent that she came across at all, as a bit of a fanatic.  She doesn&#8217;t come across as the leader of a party.  She still comports herself like the head of an NGO.  Too bad for the Greens.  She also showed her fanaticism and/or lack of class in her response to the question of saying something nice about the leader next to her, which was Harper.  Her answer came across as mean-spirited and petty.  She was worse in the press conference after the debate.  It just makes her look like a fanatic and not a party leader.</p>
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