The Green Shift that might have been

by Andrew Coyne on Thursday, October 23, 2008 4:41pm - 144 Comments

The instant, universal wisdom after the election — the more instant, the more universal, as always — was that the Green Shift was second only to Stephane Dion as a Liberal vote-killer.

Dion’s failings as leader are not in dispute here. And the Green Shift, as written, plainly failed to catch fire. You can’t argue with a popular vote of 26%

But if the argument is that any plan that involves shifting the burden of taxation from income taxes to carbon taxes is unsaleable, that has not been established. 

Why didn’t this Green Shift work, this time? A number of factors came into play:

1) Dion. The best product in the world still needs a good salesman. A complicated new product needs a really good salesman. Dion did not sell this at all well.

2) Timing. The policy was put forward at a time of skyrocketing oil prices. That doesn’t negate its usefulness as policy, as I’ve explained elsewhere, but it did make it a harder sell with the public. 

The credit crisis, erupting in the middle of the election campaign, made matters worse, adding seeming weight to the Conservatives’ message that now was not the time for “risky” experiments. Again, there wasn’t much substantive validity to this — not least since the Conservatives’ own cap-and-trade plan is just as costly, and twice as risky — but it sounded persuasive.

3) The NDP. Had the Tories been the only one demagoguing the issue, pretending that a carbon tax would be added to consumer prices but the costs of complying with cap-and-trade would not, the Liberals might have been able to make their case. But with the NDP as the Conservatives’ wingmen, it was no contest.

4) Most important, they botched the specifics. They lost their nerve; they tried to make the plan do too much at one go; they listened to the old pros who told them to use the money to pay off traditional Liberal constituencies, rather than just cut taxes. In sum, it wasn’t a tax shift, or not enough of one.

First, it wasn’t ”revenue neutral,” except in the apparent Liberal definition of the term — as “we spent every dollar we took in.” Some $14-billion of the four-year, $40-billion revenue yield of the carbon tax would have been given back, not as tax cuts, but as tax credits — spending by another name. This gave just enough truth to the Tory charge that the plan was a revenue grab to make it stick.

Second, so far as they did cut taxes, they chose to cut from the bottom, rather than the top. Because they applied the tax cut at the fattest part of the base, they could only afford a one percentage point cut in tax rates — and none at all to the top bracket: so small as do little good economically, and none at all politically. Indeed, the tax cuts were forgotten almost as soon as they were announced.

Had the Liberals produced a real tax shift, one with deep, headline-grabbing cuts in income tax rates (by my calculations, the plan would have yielded enough revenues by the fourth year to cut the top rate of personal income tax to 20% or less), it would have been impossible for the Tories to paint it as just another tax grab — especially if the Liberals had sold the plan as a tax cut, financed by a carbon levy, rather than the other way around.

As it was, the plan was undermined by a deep, and arguably fatal, internal contradiction. On the one hand, the Liberals were asking us to save the world, or rather to set a good example to other nations in that regard, since Canada’s emissions, at 2% of the global total, are too small to make much difference on their own. That’s a pretty abstract, altruistic idea. It asks us to make choices based not on immediate calculations of self-interest, but on a vision of Canada’s role in the world.

But then, on the other side of the ledger, the Liberals invited us to be completely self-interested: you can save the world, and it won’t cost you a dime! Here, use our handy calculator to see how much your family will save! This played into the Tories’ hands. If the only basis on which voters were to assess the plan was whether they personally profited from it, the Tories could point to all the tangible, real-world things that would cost more immediately, while the Grits could only talk about the savings that eventually, maybe, might materialize on their income tax form. 

If the carbon tax was about a bold, world-changing vision of Canada, it should have been matched by an equally visionary approach on the tax cut side. It should have asked voters to think, not about whether my family gains or loses a few dollars in the short run, but about transforming the Canadian economy — from today’s high-tax, low-investment plodder into a low-tax, high-investment, high-productivity “tiger,” like Ireland.

I know, I know: you can’t sell “tax cuts for the rich.” But the Liberal plan was a tax cut for the rich: the rich would have gained just as surely as the poor and middle class from those cuts in the bottom rates. But, unlike cuts in top marginal rates, it did not give them any incentives to alter their behaviour. As written, the plan cut taxes on the income they had already earned, rather than on the next dollar earned — on the income earned “at the margin,” on new investments in particular.

I don’t think it’s true that every voter measures every issue according to whether it benefits them personally. A Green Shift that promised to make the whole country richer — not in an immediate cash sense, but as an investment in higher productivity — might well have proved popular, and might yet in time.

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  • http://crawlacrosstheocean.blogspot.com/ Declan

    Sorry last sentence in the above post should read, “see what ever escalating levels of greenhouses gases DO to our climate and our ecosystems.”

  • Doug Smith

    I had the patience enough to move on to the second reference you made – Denis Avery CGF.

    It turns out his statement was based on an article that appeared in the American Physical Soceity newsletter. This is not a peer-reviewed journal. The author of the article is Christopher Monckton. The APS subsequently said, “Some people and news services misinterpreted the Newsletter publication of one editor’s comments and Lord Monckton’s article as a retreat by the American Physical Society from its official position on the contribution of human activities to global warming. Consequently, the APS felt it necessary to ensure that its official position was known both to those who logged on to the APS website and those who had followed a link to Lord Monckton’s article on our website and were unaware of the context in which it appears.” Monckton caused quite a stir with his article and there has been quite a bit written about its accuracy. As for Avery himself, he appears to be a piece of work. He has lobbied against organic farming and he co-authored a book with Fred Singer. Singer was behind the Leipzig Declaration, and his close associate is Fred Seitz, the guy behind the Oregon Petition. Both men are also tobacco lobbyiest. Actually, that’s almost not quite true. A memo from Philip Morris stated that Seitz was “quite elderly and not sufficiently rational to offer advice.” That was in 1989… These guys are quite the cabal, and not really the type of people that I would trust when looking for expert opinion. Oh, they also receive funding from Exxon.

    I then looked up the Lorne Gunter National article and the Accuracy in Media article. Gunter actually references the Accuracy in Media piece. The Carlson article refers to Robert Carter from NZ, who is a global warming skeptic. His argument, similar to others, is that the earth has cooled over the last 10 years. The rebuttal to this is that climate changes can only be observed over a 30 year period and that 10 years is too short and only reflects changes in weather. I think this rebuttal also applies to the quote “Despite scientis predictions that 2007 would be the warmest year on record, when the data comes in, it’s not even close, it’s the coolest in 3 decades.”

    The hurricane stuff likely emminates from William Gray, an expert on hurricanes and an AGW denier. Of course there are rebuttals to his work too but that doesn’t mean he’s wrong. What is interesting though is that his theory of climate change not only argues against the CO2 theory, but it also argues against the solar energy theory which is (I think) the prevalent thought behind most AGW deniers. So if you are firmly in the Gray camp then you certainly will be in a very lonely position.

    Another problem with AGW denial is exemplified by the Gunter article. It’s these kinds of piece-meal pick and choose examples that take things completely out of context. Gunter refers to the work of David Douglass and John Christy as having dealt a “devastating blow” to the “True Believers.” Then Gunter finishes his article with “It may be that more global warming doubters are surfacing because there just isn’t any global warming.” Apparently Gunter also picks and chooses what parts of Christy he wants to believe too, since Christy does believe in global warming and Christy also believes that it is partly manmade (he just doesn’t think much of the CO2 contribution).

    In the end, most of the anti-AGW arguments boil down to a core of people and scientists. Many of these people simply cannot not be trusted for expert opinion. Others, such as Carter, I would assume and expect are acting on their own studies and good faith. ie some critics use junk science and others are scientists with contrarian views.

    So what is the difference between the contrarian scientist and those that are firmly behind the AGW theory? For one, the contrarian is getting a hell of a lot of press and media exposure. Robert Carter (as an example) has become well known for his views but is there anything special about his knowledge? My understanding is that most climate scientists don’t pay much attention to his argument because his idea is not accepted for the most basic of reasons. That’s not to say that he cannot be correct, but it surely is not a ringing endorsement. The point is that there are contrarians to the AGW theory but it is not a tidal wave of dissent by any stretch of the imagination. For every Carter there is, how many comparable scientists are there behind AGW? By comparable I mean scientists that have the same or similar background, with no great stake in the matter.

    No doubt sf is correct about problems in modeling and empirical evidence and everyone is entitled to make up their own mind of course. The important thing is to not get distracted or sidetracked by the lobbyists and try to get a balanced view on things. I have no problems in attacking sources when required. I am certainly not going to spend too much time attacking arguments in elaborate detail, as I am not: a climatologist, physicist, geologist, atmospheric scientist, etc. I’ve read enough to make up my own informed opinion though. Unfortunately I see that too many people stop “believing” after exposure to the Fred Singers of the world. FWIW, I don’t think this is the case with sf.

  • Doug Smith

    Just to be clear, I mean that sf has come to his own informed opinion.

  • T. Thwim

    You can do one link per post. Here’s a good one for you: http://www.skepticalscience.com/argument.php

    That has the most common inactivist arguments, complete with their debunking. “The world is cooling” is #4.

    Now to address some of the other stuff you’re spinning: A theory doesn’t need to be testable, it needs to be falsifiable. There’s a difference. And it’s true that several of the earlier forms of the theory have been shown to be inaccurate — they have, in fact, been falsified. However so far the climatologists have been able to determine logical modifications to the theory that keep it from being completely disproven. This is exactly how science works. A theory is proposed, holes are found, the theory is modified to remove the holes. That’s how science works.

    There are two ways to displace a theory:
    1. Find evidence that no modification of the theory can incorporate.
    2. Find a theory with more explicative and predictive power.

    Currently, no evidence has managed to fit #1, and no theory has been created that explains more of the evidence that we see than AGW. (#2)

    Now, as to your critique of Catherine’s post, I’d agree with it if all Catherine was doing was posting the pascal’s wager type of theory, but she added one important point which you conveniently glossed over.

    If an overwhelming majority of the people who have the most training and education in the gathering and interpretation of climactic system evidence agree that something is happening, we would be far wiser to believe them than we would the small minority who do not — especially when that minority has
    A) Not definitively managed to falsify the prevalent theory, and
    B) Not proposed any other theory that contains more explicative or predictive power.

    Given that we always have limited information, it strikes me that the best course to act on is the one suggested by those with the majority of knowledge at the table.

  • catherine

    Doug has taken the time to go through your list, sf, and note, for example, that the the 2nd reference does not reflect the position of the American Physical Society (where it appeared, not refereed). Here is their official position:

    ———
    American Physical Society
    (Adopted by Council on November 18, 2007)
    Emissions of greenhouse gases from human activities are changing the atmosphere in ways that affect the Earth’s climate. Greenhouse gases include carbon dioxide as well as methane, nitrous oxide and other gases. They are emitted from fossil fuel combustion and a range of industrial and agricultural processes.
    The evidence is incontrovertible: Global warming is occurring. If no mitigating actions are taken, significant disruptions in the Earth’s physical and ecological systems, social systems, security and human health are likely to occur. We must reduce emissions of greenhouse gases beginning now.
    Because the complexity of the climate makes accurate prediction difficult, the APS urges an enhanced effort to understand the effects of human activity on the Earth’s climate, and to provide the technological options for meeting the climate challenge in the near and longer terms. The APS also urges governments, universities, national laboratories and its membership to support policies and actions that will reduce the emission of greenhouse gases.
    ———–

    You will find a similar position from the all the top scientific organizations (the ones the Nobel Laureates you refer to, belong to) with expertise in climate change.

  • catherine

    I’d also like to emphasize the my first worst case scenario — pricing carbon, cutting income taxes, providing incentives to develop alternatives to burning fossil fuels now — just does not have much of a down side. The GE CEO argues carbon pricing will make the economy stronger, Harper’s own government commissioned report found exactly this for a revenue neutral carbon tax. As far as the GE CEO is concerned, the environmentalists just tag along for the ride.

    Even if you don’t believe the science of climate change, what is wrong with starting to develop our economy now in recognition of the finite supply of cheap oil and the growing economies of China and India? Why not think of what else we could be profitably exporting to those countries 5 or 10 years from now?

  • Mike T.

    If an overwhelming majority of the people who have the most training and education in the gathering and interpretation of climactic system evidence agree that something is happening, we would be far wiser to believe them than we would the small minority who do not — especially when that minority has
    A) Not definitively managed to falsify the prevalent theory, and
    B) Not proposed any other theory that contains more explicative or predictive power.

    ***

    QFT. I am continually surprised by laypersons who read a single fringe paper on a topic and say ‘I agree with this theory!’ When dealing with specialized technical knowledge, what’s important is not what you think is right, but what the majority of people actually in the field think is right.

  • sf

    I like some of the points, especially by Doug Smith, who, despite his position on the issue, at least shows respect for a diverging opinion.

    However, I have given this issue much thought, and in my opinion, AGW has come nowhere to the level of scrutiny a scientific theory should be subjected to, before being accepted as truth.

    Thwim: you are wrong about displacing a theory, a theory cannot be displaced by “2. Find a theory with more explicative and predictive power.”

    Either a theory is falsified or it is not. If it is not capable of predicting anything, it cannot be displaced (it is more like a religion), but on the other hand, it has little value.

    The existence or non-existence of alternative theories has nothing to do with the scientific method. BTW, there are alternative theories, of course, but I choose not to go into them.

    Secondly, your assertion that those that do not believe AGW have “Not definitively managed to falsify the prevalent theory” is also another falsehood about the scientific method. This is the “burden of proof fallacy”. It is not up to the skeptics of a theory to deny its truth, the burden of proof falls upon the proponents of a theory. The proponents of AGW should be able to predict an observable measurement, a measurement that would have not been predicted otherwise, in the real world, that would not be predicted otherwise. This is called experimentation. Since, historically speaking, there is nothing unusual about current global temperatures and temperature variations, the burden of proof lies upon the proponents of AGW to support their assertions.

    MIke T: “what’s important is not what you think is right, but what the majority of people actually in the field think is right”

    If I remember correctly, the majority of people with expertise (economists, bankers, financial experts) felt there was nothing risky about banking and financial practices in the United States from 2001 onwards. The majority of experts did not see a stock market crash occurring, and in fact the majority of experts continued to assert there was nothing unhealthy at all, until the damage was obvious and the financial collapse was well underway. The majority of financial institutions in the developed world are currently under threat of extreme losses, and many of them are threatened with complete bankruptcy, despite the number of experts in their employ.

    A majority of people thought the world was flat, including the finest astronomers and scientists of the day.

    For a very long time, a majority of people in the developed world, including the experts in biology and anthropology, thought that blacks had less intelligence than other human beings.

    Frankly, I do not put much faith in the majority, I put faith in people who follow practices that are tried and true. Most proponents of AGW have completely abandoned the scientific method, and for this reason, those peoples’ opinions I refuse to acknowledge as being more valuable than others’. I really don’t care how many of these sheep there are.

    I would like to repeat, those that have not done so already, should look at the data, the data showing global temperatures, in order to have a better understanding of what the issue is.
    You should realize that it is only this data, along with other scientific measurements of CO2 and other factors, along with computer models invented by humans, that are the basis for AGW. Nothing else. This is nowhere near the level of scrutiny required. You should also keep in mind that climatological science is understood just as little as the human brain is understood. In other words, scientists have shown no particular skill at making predictions in climatological science with any accuracy, ever. Climate science experts have NEVER predicted future climate events, EVER, with any accuracy at all. They are only just beginning to understand the extremely complex systems involved in the real world. It may be hard to believe, that having sent a rover to Mars, that scientists know so little about the Earth, but it is true. And the best climate scientists would be the first to agree with this. Those with a background in physics or math would understand the extreme difficulty modelling the real world, and the extreme difficulty in finding solutions to the existing models, and the extreme number of variables in the models, the extreme unreliability of the existing models, and so on, and so on. It is the worst climate scientists, the ones with no humility, that disagree, the ones that claim they know everything and that their science is developed and very accurate.

    Catherine: I see nothing wrong with attempts to reduce our dependence on fossil fuels, but I think technology is the only route to do so. The existing technology simply cannot do the trick, the only hope is for future technology. Brute force taxes and cap-and-trade systems will only harm people for no reason at all. They will increase poverty and reduce our standard of living. The costs involved are immense.

    I also think that there are numerous environmental issues that are not experimental and need immediate attention, and these environmental issues should be given our attention instead. One such issue is the loss of biodiversity on the planet, this issue is being smothered by the Kyoto crowd. Other issues are the global plagues of malaria, AIDS and the other worldwide scourges. These are the real environmental issues, the ones we know that truly exist.

  • catherine

    Both the Green Party and the Liberal Party shifted more than enough money to low-income to protect them from the carbon tax. As I’ve said, the carbon tax is the cheapest anyway. Admittedly the NDP and Conservatives did not protect low-income or others, and it is the latter we will pay for.

    BTW, economics is not a science and so majority does not have the same meaning. Not that it was a real majority in economics anyway, it was simply the power club. Nice to see Krugman get the prize this year, but, of course, that only came when the other crowd had been thoroughly exposed.

  • Dennis Doerksen

    I’m just the “ordinary tax payer” that ekes out a slim existence on the margins of the computer industry. You can call me “Joe the self under-employed consultant.” I’ve been around long enough to know TANSTAAFL, and Dion’s marketing plan did nothing to convince me that I would end up keeping more of my ill-gotten gains than I otherwise would have. Your argument that postulates “If the only basis on which voters were to assess the plan was whether they personally profited from it, the Tories could point to all the tangible, real-world things that would cost more immediately,” resonates with me, and the only real reason Dion couldn’t break through to me. I suspect it was the sticking point for a lot of others as well.

  • Voter

    Why didn’t this Green Shift work, this time? A number of factors came into play:

    5) The plan would have been ineffective and inflationary.

  • catherine

    Why would it have been ineffective? Carbon pricing is one important ingredient in reducing GHGs. As for inflationary, a carbon tax costs much less than a cap and trade, so it is not as inflationary as cap and trade. The tax cuts (in either system of carbon pricing) help consumers pay the extra costs.

  • Ed B

    In the past couple fo years I have replaced most of my lightbulbs with CF’s, bought a new energy efficient washer and dryer, and slowed down while driving. I have had a programmable thermostat for 11 years and let my house go to 15C through the night. We recycle everything we can. I did this all without a Green Shift and a Green Shift won’t incent me do any more. I resent being called a “polluter” by Dion simply becasue I want to heat and iluminate my house and don’t live in Quebec and can do it with habitat-destroying hydro power. All you greenies should stop your whining and just get off your butts and start acting. The Green Shift was not revenue neutral to me, Ed, it was going to cost me and there was nothing more I could do to offset the higher taxes.

  • Andrew

    “I did this all without a Green Shift and a Green Shift won’t incent me do any more.”

    That’s where you went wrong, Ed. Whether you change your behaviour or not, those individuals and firms which supply your consumption (say, your friendly neighbourhood grocer) will endeavor to serve you while lowering costs (ie, lowering fuel consumption). Thus, there will be less indirect CO2 emitted on your behalf.

    Beyond that, I highly doubt there wouldn’t be a single energy saving retrofit or practice you would put in place in the future. And even further, if you are so energy efficient, you would likely come out ahead with a shift from income tax to carbon.

  • catherine

    I agree with Andrew.

    I’ve taken the same steps as you, Ed, carpool to work, and went ulta-high-efficiency when I had to replace my furnace. Because of this I’d expect to be ahead too, but I’m also happy to find more things I can do. It’s people who don’t take some of these steps who would pay more unless they changed their habits.

    Industry would pay the most under the Green Shift because their emissions account for most of the emissions covered, and they would find ways to use less fossil fuels as well.

  • Doug Smith

    Ed B, I don’t think people would call you a polluter, at least not in a real negative context. I would also think that you wouldn’t be put out of pocket, if you take normal, rational steps in your every day life to increase energy efficiency. This is what I believe was the biggest propaganda against the Green Shift, the idea that everyone was going to pay money.

    sf, you bring up a very big part of the Green Shift, the part that was hardly spoken about. Dion did discuss it on during the debates and I don’t think the significance was noticed. Green “Shift” – he wanted to use taxes collected from the biggest polluters to help kick-start new technologies and industries that would lead to a new era in Canada. Dion cited Germany as being successful at this.

    I also support the idea of a carbon tax on another very basic level. Even if a person doubts AGW, the idea of carbon tax is good. Pollution is pollution, whether it heats, cools or does nothing to the climate. I’m all for incentives that can decrease pollution. If a carbon tax was successful in decreasing the number of people driving 1/2 ton pick-up trucks for non-work purposes in Vancouver then I see that as a good thing. To me, I don’t see much of a losing aspect of the Green Shift. Again, I would rather have an imperfect carbon tax as opposed to anything at all.

    Like most things that deal with pollution, we require the government to draw a line in the sand. From toxic waste to banning 2-stroke engines, etc. It can’t be left to individuals and companies. My point is that we should move that line in the sand while trying to develop new technologies to help us in the future. Carbon tax is one tool that I think helps in this regard.

  • Juan

    And what if Superman was on the side of the Axis in WW2 instead of America?
    Well, for one thing he’d probably be called Ubermensch instead…

  • Ed B

    Stephane Dion said he was going to tax pollution.

    That makes me a polluter, for heating my home, for lighting the darkness, with natural gas and electricity generated by burning coal, because I live in Alberta, not in Quebec.

    Propaganda? Come on. Some of us can think for ourselves and do. I beleived I was going to pay. Me. Ed. Because I was. Personally, and indirectly by having the good fortune of living in Alberta, at whom the green shift was targeted.

    The whole green movement is propaganda if you ask me. The notion that Canada at 2% of global emissions can make a material reduction in the CO2 content of the atmosphere is asinine. The notion that shutting down the Alberta tar sands, at 8% of Canada’s emissions, to save the planet, is equally asinine and economically devastating for everyone.

  • http://www.wernerpatels.com Werner Patels

    The Green Shift ….

    (a) came at the wrong time (actually, the worst possible time — economic crisis; bad example of negative public opinion in British Columbia to province’s own carbon tax)

    and

    (b) was bogus in terms of “tax relief”. The way Dion drafted it, there would have been no tax relief for hardworking Canadians — and even if it had been the way he claimed it was, it still wouldn’t have provided the tax relief that is long overdue (Canadian households lose 45% of their annual income to taxes alone, and this is simply unacceptable).

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