The Green Shift that might have been

by Andrew Coyne on Thursday, October 23, 2008 4:41pm - 144 Comments

The instant, universal wisdom after the election — the more instant, the more universal, as always — was that the Green Shift was second only to Stephane Dion as a Liberal vote-killer.

Dion’s failings as leader are not in dispute here. And the Green Shift, as written, plainly failed to catch fire. You can’t argue with a popular vote of 26%

But if the argument is that any plan that involves shifting the burden of taxation from income taxes to carbon taxes is unsaleable, that has not been established. 

Why didn’t this Green Shift work, this time? A number of factors came into play:

1) Dion. The best product in the world still needs a good salesman. A complicated new product needs a really good salesman. Dion did not sell this at all well.

2) Timing. The policy was put forward at a time of skyrocketing oil prices. That doesn’t negate its usefulness as policy, as I’ve explained elsewhere, but it did make it a harder sell with the public. 

The credit crisis, erupting in the middle of the election campaign, made matters worse, adding seeming weight to the Conservatives’ message that now was not the time for “risky” experiments. Again, there wasn’t much substantive validity to this — not least since the Conservatives’ own cap-and-trade plan is just as costly, and twice as risky — but it sounded persuasive.

3) The NDP. Had the Tories been the only one demagoguing the issue, pretending that a carbon tax would be added to consumer prices but the costs of complying with cap-and-trade would not, the Liberals might have been able to make their case. But with the NDP as the Conservatives’ wingmen, it was no contest.

4) Most important, they botched the specifics. They lost their nerve; they tried to make the plan do too much at one go; they listened to the old pros who told them to use the money to pay off traditional Liberal constituencies, rather than just cut taxes. In sum, it wasn’t a tax shift, or not enough of one.

First, it wasn’t ”revenue neutral,” except in the apparent Liberal definition of the term — as “we spent every dollar we took in.” Some $14-billion of the four-year, $40-billion revenue yield of the carbon tax would have been given back, not as tax cuts, but as tax credits — spending by another name. This gave just enough truth to the Tory charge that the plan was a revenue grab to make it stick.

Second, so far as they did cut taxes, they chose to cut from the bottom, rather than the top. Because they applied the tax cut at the fattest part of the base, they could only afford a one percentage point cut in tax rates — and none at all to the top bracket: so small as do little good economically, and none at all politically. Indeed, the tax cuts were forgotten almost as soon as they were announced.

Had the Liberals produced a real tax shift, one with deep, headline-grabbing cuts in income tax rates (by my calculations, the plan would have yielded enough revenues by the fourth year to cut the top rate of personal income tax to 20% or less), it would have been impossible for the Tories to paint it as just another tax grab — especially if the Liberals had sold the plan as a tax cut, financed by a carbon levy, rather than the other way around.

As it was, the plan was undermined by a deep, and arguably fatal, internal contradiction. On the one hand, the Liberals were asking us to save the world, or rather to set a good example to other nations in that regard, since Canada’s emissions, at 2% of the global total, are too small to make much difference on their own. That’s a pretty abstract, altruistic idea. It asks us to make choices based not on immediate calculations of self-interest, but on a vision of Canada’s role in the world.

But then, on the other side of the ledger, the Liberals invited us to be completely self-interested: you can save the world, and it won’t cost you a dime! Here, use our handy calculator to see how much your family will save! This played into the Tories’ hands. If the only basis on which voters were to assess the plan was whether they personally profited from it, the Tories could point to all the tangible, real-world things that would cost more immediately, while the Grits could only talk about the savings that eventually, maybe, might materialize on their income tax form. 

If the carbon tax was about a bold, world-changing vision of Canada, it should have been matched by an equally visionary approach on the tax cut side. It should have asked voters to think, not about whether my family gains or loses a few dollars in the short run, but about transforming the Canadian economy — from today’s high-tax, low-investment plodder into a low-tax, high-investment, high-productivity “tiger,” like Ireland.

I know, I know: you can’t sell “tax cuts for the rich.” But the Liberal plan was a tax cut for the rich: the rich would have gained just as surely as the poor and middle class from those cuts in the bottom rates. But, unlike cuts in top marginal rates, it did not give them any incentives to alter their behaviour. As written, the plan cut taxes on the income they had already earned, rather than on the next dollar earned — on the income earned “at the margin,” on new investments in particular.

I don’t think it’s true that every voter measures every issue according to whether it benefits them personally. A Green Shift that promised to make the whole country richer — not in an immediate cash sense, but as an investment in higher productivity — might well have proved popular, and might yet in time.

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  • Ti-Guy

    Clearly you would make a fine dictator, from the new environmentalist angle on tyranny.

    Oh, well. You can’t please everyone.

    sf=Loon.

  • sharonapple88

    Catherine — thanks for finding information on carbon taxes, etc.

  • Ti-Guy

    Make sure you screen cap your comment, Sharon. Wells is being a regular Winston this evening, wielding the speakwrite with primitive abandon.

  • sf

    Now that I live in a world where people think it is perfectly natural to put a tax on CO2, I can’t wait for the O2 tax and the H2O tax, coming soon from an enironmentalist or politican near you.

  • Gustav

    Catherine looks hot in that green shift.

  • Ti-Guy

    Catherine looks hot in that green shift.

    This is really stupid and juvenile. Wells, delete this.

  • Gustav

    It’s satire, numbskull. You hormones are supplying all the lurv.

  • catherine

    Gustav’s earlier post about the “hot babe in a green shift” already exposed him as a sexist boor with nothing to add to the discussion of carbon pricing. He’s simply confirming that.

  • catherine

    For those who do not want to read CBO reports, here is a good, simple summary:

    http://cboblog.cbo.gov/?p=65

    Note, it states that “Flexible cap-and-trade programs could achieve some, but not all, of the efficiency-improving/cost-minimizing advantages of a tax” and goes on to mention safety-values, floors, banking, borrowing, circuit-breakers,…

    Why jump through so many loops, just to mimic a carbon tax and call it something else, knowing it still will cost more than a carbon tax? Is this “leadership”?

    Interestingly, the CBO study found that even if the rest of the world implemented a cap and trade, it would still be economically more advantageous for the US to implement a carbon tax which hooked into the global cap and trade.

  • Doug Smith

    sf, the whole world is adopting emission pricing, even our new government. Short of electing a Libertarian government, yes you will be paying for CO2 and maybe H2O in the future. Recognizing this, the best thing is to get the most bang for the buck.

    Yes, the Green Shift was a tax and spend program, and I can understand why people, especially those that consider themselves to be fiscally conservative, don’t like that phrase. As pointed out, the “spend” was required for low income Canadians since it is a regressive tax. But I think we need to look at the fundamentals of things like Green Shift. Fundamentally they are about trying to curb emissions. They are not about grabbing tax and spending it on social housing, corporate tax cuts, new roads, election campaigns, etc. As well, different emission pricing programs may spend tax money on building new industry related to new energy sources, sustainability programs, etc. Dion mentioned this very often and I think this is the forgotten part of the “shift.” It’s about ensuring a future for our kids.

    Often I hear people disparagingly referring to our governments as being babysitters. But you know what? Darn rights they are. There are a hell of a lot of babies, children and young adults in this country that need to depend on the government for making the right choices so that when they grow up, they’ll have as many opportunities for success as their parents had.

  • sf

    Doug Smith:
    How do you manage to ensure that the government does a better job of helping “babies, children and young adults” than parents?

    I’ve seen a lot of examples around the world, of governments doing a lot to ensure that “babies, children and young adults” are denied any opportunities at all, if they do not have the necessary pedigree. Governments are not a replacement for God. You cannot hand over all power over your own life and expect only good things to happen. More often than not, this causes only bad things to happen. The people in government tend to be wrong more often that the people who are not, typically because governments are not experts in anything except governing.

    The scientists who “believe” in global warming are already starting to doubt themselves, because all the empirical evidence from the last 5 years or so has been undermining their theory. Most continue to battle on, ignoring the evidence, because they have so much invested in the theory. Followers pay no attention at all, because they would rather believe the world is flat, because that is what they have been believing for so long.
    Yet you claim we are on a freight train to regulation, regardless of whether the science is right or wrong. We’ll see, I suspect this is one area where the nations of China and India (and many ohter) will be given leg up as the developed world handicaps itself.

  • catherine

    sf, turn to a credible scientific source, like the National Academy of Sciences, if you want to understand the evidence for climate change. What you say about scientists is wrong.

    However, if you don’t believe in climate change, you might be interested in listening to what someone who insists he is not an environmentalist, has never voted Democrat (he is an American who supports the Republicans), and is interested in making lots of money, has to say on this subject.

    Immelt, the CEO of GE, one of the world’s largest companies, says governments already have their hands in every industry, and it is just a matter of whether it is a positive hand or not. He is pushing for the US to impose a price on carbon, because he sees a window for GE and other US companies to develop green technology and then export that technology and products resulting from it to China and India. He thinks the US economy will be stronger if they impose carbon pricing now.

    Do we want Canadian companies to be in on this, or are we happy to sit back, burning fossil fuels, and leave the money and future industries to other countries?

  • T. Thwim

    Any evidence to back up this claim of scientists doubting themselves? Or is this just more inactivist propaganda?

  • Gustav

    Sexist boor? Nope. It was an innocent indulgence in anagrams. Their outcomes often oddly create an loose but inescapable family of associations. Something Christopher Bok discovered when he wrote a book of poetry consisting of chapters making use of only one vowel at a time. The vowel “u” pretty much dictated a vulgar but very funny chapter. “Ubu gluts lulus dugs” kinda thing. “Green shift” caught my eye. No offense meant.

  • Doug Smith

    Hi sf,
    In my above comment I was referring to babysitting only in the context of climate change. While many parents may take action on this topic, in general I would say that the individual, acting as individual, is ineffective in asserting change. As an example, most of the people I work with recognize or agree that CO2 and global warming is a problem, yet I’m almost the only one that uses bicycle or public transit to commute to work.

    As to whether AGW is real, I have yet to find substance behind this assertion. Whenever I’ve encountered this in past, the debate referenced back to things like the Oregon Petition, Lipzieg, etc. Not only do these origins have weak foundations (assertions by non-experts in the field), but they have ties to pro-oil lobbies. Only a few weeks ago I heard a panel speak about climate change and this panel even contained members from the Albertan oil industry. While the oil industry representative wasn’t necessarily pro emission pricing, there was no doubt that he and I presume the industry he was representing treat the issue very seriously and see it as a problem.

    “… because all the empirical evidence from the last 5 years or so has been undermining their theory. Most continue to battle on, ignoring the evidence, because they have so much invested in the theory.”

    I find the above quote to be similar to the propaganda that the Cons spread about the Liberals and Green Shift. It is not factual and it spreads misinformation.

  • Jenn

    Catherine, that is the point I’ve been trying to get across on this whole pricing carbon thing. Thank you for finding a credible source and making the point so efficiently.

    I think its a real shame the Liberals focussed so much on the climate change rather than emerging technologies aspects.

    I’m attending a lecture this week on “Keeping our Cool: Canada in a Warming World”. Hopefully the presenter will touch on the ‘empirical evidence in the last five years that’s undermined their theory.’ If he does, I’ll report back.

  • sf

    Catherine: The CEO of GE is clearly qualified to decide the issue? Because of his expertise in global commerce and light bulbs? I would not give his opinion more weight than yours or mine.

    Thwim, I wanted to post some links, but this blog would not allow it, so the links have become titles:

    Evidence of a global cooling trend:
    -THE NELSON LECTURE By Dr Gerrit J. van der Lingen
    -Lorne Gunter wrote a nice summary on October 20 in the National Post

    A cooling trend for the last decade worldwide:
    “Three of the world’s major climate monitors have announced that the earth’s temperatures dropped over the last 12 months—by enough to virtually offset the entire “unprecedented warming” of the last century.This comes after nine years of no warming, and a net warming since 1940 of just 0.2 degrees”
    -Dennis Avery Center for Global Food Issues, March 2008

    Despite scientis predictions that 2007 would be the warmest year on record, when the data comes in, it’s not even close, it’s the coolest in 3 decades:
    -A summary on the strata-sphere blog, July 5, 2008

    Measurement of ocean temperatures contradicting global warming theory:
    -article from National Public Radio March 2008

    Here’s a nice summary of some other issues with global warming “science”:
    -Accuracy in Media, Jerry carlson, February 2008

    In some articles I read, the authors go through great pains to stick with the prevailing anthropomorhpic GW theory, no matter what the evidence is saying, at times trying to spin their own data in ways that allow them to ignore it! This is typical of fraudulent science. Here are a couple of examples, but others are easy to find:
    “That could mean global warming has taken a breather. Or it could mean scientists aren’t quite understanding what their robots are telling them.”
    “Trenberth and Willis agree that a few mild years have no effect on the long-term trend of global warming. But they say there are still things to learn about how our planet copes with the heat.”

    And just to show that a global majority of scientists can be wrong, “scientific consensus on man-made ozone hole may be coming apart”:
    -Nature magazine, September 2007, Quirin Schiermeier
    -article CCNet September 2007
    -study by Qing-Bin Lu, University of Waterloo, September 2008

    And one further point – typically in science, it is incumbent upon the proposers of a theory to design studies and experiments to challenge it. The burden of proof falls upon those promoting the new theory, not the skeptics, and with AGW this simply has not been done. Theories that have been inadequately challenged are worth little until they have.

  • catherine

    Dr. Gerrit J. van der Lingen? He says he is a “climate change consultant”, but good luck trying to find a single peer-reviewed paper by him on climate change science. A search of 22,000 journals came up with zero.

    Science is an endeavor where people publish their results in peer-reviewed journals. van der Lingen is not a climate change scientist and he should change his title to “layperson – climate change skeptic”.

    The CEO of GE is interested in making money. GE suffers from a weak economy and benefits from a strong economy. That was the whole point of my reference to him.

    Jenn, in the Dion speeches I heard, he emphasized how the environment and the economy are interlinked. The media didn’t cover this much (or at all?) and seemed intent on focussing on silly things.

  • Jenn

    Catherine, yes you’re right. It was the media not picking up on that part. It is difficult to encompass a big idea into a soundbite, I guess.

    SF–This is great. I’ll just print out these other points of view to have on hand while listening to the lecture. Hopefully then I can take notes on the specific subjects to which they refer.

  • sf

    Frankly, Catherine, I don’t have the time to list the peer reviewed journals for you. I posted a list of articles that themselves link to peer reviewed journals. But I cannot post the links to these articles, I tried and the blog system rejected the post. However, if you googled these sources I listed, you would find plenty of references to recent papers.

    In fact, my post listing the links to two graphs of global temperatures, one 1980 til now, the other for the last 5000 years, that post is “awaiting moderation”, so I don’t know if anyone can see it. But I would encourage anyone to look at them both, so they themselves can get a sense of what some of the data is showing.

    Frankly, you and David Smith seem to enjoy attacking sources rather than attacking arguments.

    And frankly, I am perfectly aware of how science works, how peer review works, in fact I publish scientific papers myself sometimes, although unrelated to this topic.

    Science relies on the scientific method. In the scientific method, all theories are valid until rejected by evidence that discredits them. The most valuable theories are the ones that have been (1) been subject to much experimentation and (2) been able to predict events in the future accurately.

    Even Einstein’s theories of time dilation have been subject to real-world experimentation, and his theories held up. They have also predicted real world events that would not have been predicted otherwise. Some of his other theories have been rejected due to real-world experimentation.

    (1) AGW has not been subject to experimentation whatsoever, due to the difficulty of conducting experimentation on real world weather and climate. In fact, weather forecasters can only forecast a week at a time due to the complexities of the science.

    AGW is reliant on models and past data, neither of which subject the theory to real world experimentation. Both models and past data are subject to the errors of omission and the statistical errors of the people creating the models and collecting the data.

    (2) Climate scientists have completely and utterly failed with most of their predictions of both future global temperatures and future incidence of weather events.
    They predicted higher temperatures, while the last decade has shown temperatures holding steady or dropping.
    They predicted more hurricances, we have seen less.
    They predicted less ice cover, which has been seen in nothern latitudes, while ice cover has been increasing in the south.
    They predicted warming ocean temperatures, and so far measurements have shown no ocean warming whatsoever.
    The list goes on and on.

  • catherine

    sf, you posted a link of sources and I stopped at the first one because I saw that the person had no scientific creditials in the area he was talking about, climate change. I don’t have time (or the interest) to look at all the people who claim to know something outside their scientific expertise.

    If the majority of climate change scientists are wrong, but we act on their best advice, what do we risk? Preparing our economy for economic rise of India and China and the end of cheap oil a bit earlier than needed? What is the worst that happened to Sweden that introduced a carbon tax in 1991? Their economy grew significantly and they export wind energy to China now? What’s the worst you can think of, if we start putting a price on carbon, cutting income taxes, and developing alternative energy sources?

    Meanwhile, if you and the skeptics are wrong, but we fail to act, what do we possibly risk? Loss of species, widespread famines, massive droughts, large parts of the earth uninhabitable, masses of refugees,…

    Experts who really understand the science feel there is absolutely no comparison between the risks on these two sides. Essentially all the related scientific bodies, from the top general science ones, like the National Academies and Royal Societies, to the specific Physics, Geology, Atmospheric, … organizations around the world, have come out emphatically and said the science says we must act now and not take this risk. I agree with them.

    Europe and Scandinavia, which has always been more scientifically literate than North America, starting acting over a decade ago. The US has a scientific elite, but is largely scientifically illiterate as a country, often taking fundamentalism in religion over science (as evidenced by the majority rejecting evolution). Even the US is likely to react sooner than Canada. What is our excuse?

  • Austin So

    You are (or the research you cite is) being disingenuous, sf.

    A single data point does not make a trend. Look at the month-to-month annual changes from the beginning.

    When you start to see an overall trend spanning at least three years indicating that global temperatures are going down, then get back to us.

    Austin

  • sf

    Catherine: your argument that we must assess the damage if I am wrong vs you are wrong is the worst argument of all.

    Taking this argument to its logical conclusion, if I state the world will explode due to the use of the Hadron Collider, and I present to you dubious evidence, then does that mean the Hadron Collider should be shut down because of my dire warnings?

    Your argument that there are consequences to be feared (some people love to use the word apocalyptic) is as dubious as the original argument that anthropomorphic global warming is real. There is no evidence for any of the scare mongering.

    “Loss of species, widespread famines, massive droughts, large parts of the earth uninhabitable, masses of refugees”

    All of that is pure bunk, cooked up by the imaginations of propagandists.

    “Europe and Scandinavia, which has always been more scientifically literate than North America”

    Are you kidding me? You must be joking with that statement. Do you realize that in the latter half of this century, more than half of the Nobel prizes in science have been awarded to residents of the United States? Did you know that 90% of the top science universites, by almost any measure, are in the United States?

    Regardless, characterizing one continent as dumber than another, that is complete bunk.

    Austin: If you bothered to look at the data, you would see that the data IS showing a trend of global cooling from 2003 to 2008, which is a period longer than 3 years. Additionally, the long term data over the last 5000 years shows the the increase in temperature in the latter half of the last century is nothing unusual.

  • Andrew

    sf, what of the acidification of the oceans, and what that is doing to coral reefs and other such vital yet fragile ecosystems? Not global warming, but caused by heightened atmospheric CO2 levels just the same.

    It is similarly not well understood what ramifications there will be to a significant change in ocean pH.

  • http://crawlacrosstheocean.blogspot.com/ Declan

    I’m on your side on this issue Andrew, but I think you’re indulging in some wishful thinking in your post here.

    The simple fact is that any policy that has the word tax in it will be deeply unpopular regardless of common sense, logic, revenue neutrality or anything else.

    Take the B.C. carbon tax example. It avoids many of the concerns you expressed about the federal Liberal one, and after 7 years of continuous tax cutting, the government in power had surely earned some credibility on the tax front, but if anything, people were/are even more deeply opposed to the carbon tax here in B.C.

    I see newspaper articles which talk about urban Vancouver areas where they write things like ‘Burnaby residents are facing a plant closure which comes as a tough blow as they are already dealing with the new carbon tax…..’ when of course people in Burnaby are net beneficiaries of the carbon tax.

    Your post is attempting to make a lot of complications out of the simple fact that people are idiots and that is why we’re all just going to have to sit back and see what ever escalating levels of greenhouses gases due to our climate and our ecosystems.

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