Define "poverty." Seriously, do it.

Yesterday’s Toronto Star editorial notes a wonktastic OECD report, released last week, which shows…

by selley on Monday, October 27, 2008 6:14pm - 63 Comments

Yesterday’s Toronto Star editorial notes a wonktastic OECD report, released last week, which shows both poverty and income inequality on the rise across most of the OECD, including Canada, from the mid-1980s to the mid-2000s. Inequality fell in Ireland and Turkey; poverty fell in Belgium, Denmark, Mexico, Portugal and the United States; and both fell in France, Greece and Spain. But other than that, it’s bad news, not least for Canada.

It’s confusing news, too. The Star, as per usual, pegs the number of Ontarians living in poverty at 1.3 million, which is roughly the number that fall below Statistics Canada’s after-tax low-income cut-off (LICO), a measurement of what percentage of a household’s earnings go to essentials like food, shelter and clothing. But while they tip hat to the OECD’s analysis, the Star‘s editorialists don’t use any of its stats. Cynical readers might assume that was because it low-balled the poverty numbers, but in fact it’s the opposite. The OECD defines poverty as living with less than 50 per cent of the median income, and by that measure establishes Canada’s poverty rate at 12 per cent. That’s actually slightly higher than the LICO, which is 11.4 per cent for Canada and 11.1 per cent in Ontario.

Two totally different measurements of poverty; two nearly identical results. But neither LICO nor less-than-half-the-median is an absolute measurement of poverty. They’re both relative. Give every Canadian a cheque worth 20 per cent of his annual income and the OECD poverty rate would stay exactly the same. Everyone would just move proportionally up the ladder, as would the median, and the bottom rungs would still be considered impoverished despite their newfound spending power. [UPDATE: A weak analogy, at best. What really happens is the ladder moves up to higher-income territory, and everyone stays on their rung.] And that’s fine, to a point. It seems a little odd to me that the OECD presents income inequality and poverty as if they were totally separate phenomena, when the poverty measurement is itself, in many ways, a measurement of inequality. But I realize internationally comparable figures—the lifeblood of colossi like the OECD—are few and far between.

But that’s where the OECD report gets really interesting:

Several OECD countries … have “official” measures of poverty that rely on “absolute” standards, typically in the form of the cost of a basket of goods and services required to assure minimum living conditions and indexed for price changes over time (e.g. United States). While the use of “absolute” thresholds poses difficult methodological issues for cross-country comparisons (Förster, 1994), one way to illustrate how “absolute” poverty has changed over time is to use a relative threshold in a base year which is kept unchanged in real terms in later years. One such measure, based on a threshold set at half of median income in the mid-1990s, shows that—even when relative income poverty is rising—most OECD countries achieved significant reductions in absolute poverty between the mid-1990s and mid-2000s.

In English: when measured in some sort of absolute terms, poverty has fallen in all 15 of the OECD countries on the chart above except Germany, and it has plummeted in the nations to the left of the chart—Hungary, Greece, Great Britain, Norway and Austria. Yet of these 14 nations that cut poverty on their own terms, the OECD’s measurement has poverty increasing in seven of them.

You’d have to ask a statistician why. But from a political standpoint, to my mind, it underscores just how crucial it is for governments to establish these in-house measurements of poverty. Ireland’s “deprivation index,” for example, states that an Irishman ought to have access to basics like “two pairs of strong shoes,” a “roast dinner once a week,” and so on. If he doesn’t, and if his income is less than 60 per cent of the median, then he’s considered to be living in poverty. The Star, to its credit, suggested just such an approach coming up on two years ago. And Ontario promises to have “measures and targets” in place by the end of the year. It can’t come too soon, even if we end up with a different measurement for each province. But you’d think the feds, too, would rather point at a real target and get on with it than bicker about the ideological importance of income equality with anti-poverty activists, who can legitimately claim to have no choice but to use relative statistics like LICO. Yet even the Liberal platform, not that it’s worth much now, proposed to measure and cut poverty using the same old LICOs, when a promise to adopt an empirical approach wouldn’t have cost a dime.

I am not someone who dismisses the importance of inequality on grounds that, hey, you can either afford a loaf of bread or you can’t, and if you can, then leave the rich alone. But it’s certainly far more important that all Canadians be able to afford bread than that the richest Canadians can afford more, and fancier, baked goods than the poorest. One problem at a time, in other words. And 141 years into the history of Canadian poverty seems like as good a time as any to decide what on earth it actually means.

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  • Andrew

    myl, I’ve spelled out what I think social assistance should look like. Again, you haven’t said how much less comfortable it has to be than it is now. Most of the things you describe currently occur, except cutting people off-presumably to ‘sink’ (rot in the streets) or ‘swim’.

  • TobyornotToby

    Poverty is dependence, whether that’s in Canada or in Zimbabwe. If you haven’t got food in reserve or security of tenure in your housing, and are dependent on assistance that could be withdrawn, it doesn’t matter how much that is.

    I agree with conservatives that the goal should be for more people on social assistance to have jobs to support themselves and their families. I just don’t happen to think that making people as miserable as possible, clawing back most of what they earn, and maintaining that at survival levels of income, is the way to get there.

    Incentives seem to drive doctors and lawyers and CEO’s, why do we we use disincentives such as low Welfare rates, as the tool to get people to work?

    I think the answer is that many critics of Welfare are being dishonest, they aren’t really concerned about the welfare of poor people, they are concerned abut their own status as owners of businesses that profit by paying low wages.

    If Welfare rates go up to a level beyond mere survival, these influential business owners might have to compete for employees, maybe even pay a living wage.

  • Andrew

    Toby: I actually disagree. If people have a decent base income that isn’t clawed back by more than 50%, they would likely have incentive to work even minimum wage jobs. Indeed, if we had a GAI, minimum wage wouldn’t be necessary.

    Some people, sad to say, aren’t worth the $10 that minimum wage will soon be. Enforcing that minimum wage means these people simply won’t be employed.

  • T. Thwim

    MYL: Just because people are taken off the welfare rolls doesn’t mean they stop being desparate.

    Desparate people can make desparate decisions. If we’re lucky, they’ll suddenly find jobs where none were available before (if you think living on welfare, especially with a family, is a picnic, you simply haven’t been there). However, there is also a chance that they’ll resort to desparate measures, which we still end up paying for, just through the much less efficient means of crime, innocent victims, courts, and prisons.

  • http://www.truemuse.wordpress.com truemuse

    Andrew, how can any labour be worth less than $10.00 hourly? How can you say that the efforts of a person are worth nothing? Any individual doing a job is becoming part of a team of workers. Even if it is a short job. It is when the effort to train and encourage and support new employees is not given, and when the government doesn’t help with income supports to ensure that someone who is returning to the workforce has the means to get to work and fit in, it is then that employers start to moan that a person’s labour is worth nothing. The employer hasn’t invested to train the employee, and that why he can say that labour is worthless.

    You see this in Canada at the University level where schools of Journalism are pretty much there to do the job training that the Asper Family Fortunes will not do! Well our Universities are not just for job training! They are for developing the critical sense in the context of a discipline. This relationship between major employers and Universities needs alot of work. We graduate all kinds of people who have no job to go to, and we graduate all kinds of others that are ill equipped to make the policy decisions within their spheres that will lead to the kind of cooperation of government and those developing the economies that can succeed to realize equity of income and inclusiveness of everyone in society.

  • UncleHoward

    truemuse: WHAT? “We graduate all kinds of people who have no job to go to, and we graduate all kinds of others that are ill equipped to make the policy decisions within their spheres that will lead to the kind of cooperation of government and those developing the economies that can succeed to realize equity of income and inclusiveness of everyone in society.”

    That is one heck of a run-on sentence.

  • Austin So

    I think the other important thing to consider is that the majority of jobs that used to be full-time (with benefits and job security) back in the day have gone to part-time, contract, or casual (no benefits, no job security), or have entirely been replaced by technology which requires highly specialized education (no employment period).

    The total number of available job types has decreased significantly (the modern day equivalent of the industrial revolution brought on by the computer age), and whole industries are being replaced.

    A $10 minimum wage may seem like a lot if you were working the 70s when one could be certain of job security, but not in context of society today.

    Austin

  • Andrew

    Some people aren’t worth $10. The government frequently subsidizes the wages of some of these people to encourage employers to hire them. Eliminating the minimum wage while guaranteeing minimum income would allow greater utilization of labour (not paying people to sit at home) while not consigning people to working-poordom.

  • TobyornotToby

    I’m with truemuse on the implicit and explicit subsidies for business in education spending on industry specific trainign that should be paid for by the company.

    For instance tell me why my taxes are funding certificate programs for “Pork Production Manager” and “Pork Production Tehcnician” at Assiniboine Community College in Brandon? The training isn’t transferrable to any other industry like carpentry or welding, or even other ways of raising pigs (like in the fresh air instead of in cages) it’s a direct subsidy of corporate hog barn operations.

    The real freeloaders are the ones complaining about paying people $10 an hour.

  • Austin So

    Some people, sad to say, aren’t worth the $10 that minimum wage will soon be.

    Some people aren’t worth $10.

    Don’t you guys mean “some jobs”…?

    Austin

  • http://www.truemuse.wordpress.com truemuse

    UncleHoward, thanks for the reminder! I’m trying to do a little writing every day to cure that style problem. “Perfect practice makes perfect!”.

    I would just like to say also on this OECD report that when you look at the results of Canada you notice how the relationships Canadians have, one to another, have deteriorated. Canadians stay poor longer than in OECD countries. Canadians need to work more than others do, to escape poverty (meaning that the sharing of wealth within extended families is not happening as much here as in other OECD countries). And (from another study) Canadians are least satisfied with the jobs they have.

  • Andrew

    No. Some people. The job may be worth $10 for the average employee, but sub-par employees are sentenced to a series of minimum wage jobs and periodic stretches of unemployment because they aren’t even worth minimum wage. Employers may give them a shot, but if there are 10 better candidates willing to work the same wage, you better bet that that weak employee will soon be looking for another job.

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