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		<title>By: GazProm Canada</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2008/10/30/a-silver-lining-for-russia/comment-page-1/#comment-43406</link>
		<dc:creator>GazProm Canada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 11:21:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guys, are you real Canadians? Don&#8217;t you see what is going on with the company &#8220;GazProm Corp. Canada&#8221; nowadays? How can you sleep so quietly? Do something for your country and people that live nearby. We should support our identity and the identity of the company that Russians try to take from us. That Russian company wants to replace our national enterprise and we can&#8217;t just stare at the situation that is happening in Canada. Let&#8217;s unite and make a wall to all the people from other countries who try to kill our national property and concepts. Drive these inveterate rogues away from Canada and its companies!
We ask you to support and give your vote for &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gazprom.ca&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.gazprom.ca&lt;/a&gt; at the website we&#039;ve mentioned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guys, are you real Canadians? Don&rsquo;t you see what is going on with the company &ldquo;GazProm Corp. Canada&rdquo; nowadays? How can you sleep so quietly? Do something for your country and people that live nearby. We should support our identity and the identity of the company that Russians try to take from us. That Russian company wants to replace our national enterprise and we can&rsquo;t just stare at the situation that is happening in Canada. Let&rsquo;s unite and make a wall to all the people from other countries who try to kill our national property and concepts. Drive these inveterate rogues away from Canada and its companies!<br />
We ask you to support and give your vote for <a href="http://www.gazprom.ca" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.gazprom.ca</a> at the website we&#039;ve mentioned.</p>
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		<title>By: GazProm Canada</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2008/10/30/a-silver-lining-for-russia/comment-page-1/#comment-43405</link>
		<dc:creator>GazProm Canada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 11:16:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear friends, Canadians! We should support our national company in the current situation it is in. There is a company from Russia that tries to kill our values and get into Canadian market. For this purpose it uses different tricks! Let&#8217;s not allow to do it with us! We are patriots of our country. And this son of a bitch from Russia tries to steal it! Don&#8217;t stand still, do your best to conquer all the enemies of our native land. We deserve it as it&#8217;s our territory and these Russians can only destroy it! You are a patriot. Me too. I believe it and you should. Let&#8217;s fight together and preserve our property!
We ask you to support and give your vote for &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gazprom.ca&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.gazprom.ca&lt;/a&gt; at the website we&#039;ve mentioned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear friends, Canadians! We should support our national company in the current situation it is in. There is a company from Russia that tries to kill our values and get into Canadian market. For this purpose it uses different tricks! Let&rsquo;s not allow to do it with us! We are patriots of our country. And this son of a bitch from Russia tries to steal it! Don&rsquo;t stand still, do your best to conquer all the enemies of our native land. We deserve it as it&rsquo;s our territory and these Russians can only destroy it! You are a patriot. Me too. I believe it and you should. Let&rsquo;s fight together and preserve our property!<br />
We ask you to support and give your vote for <a href="http://www.gazprom.ca" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.gazprom.ca</a> at the website we&#039;ve mentioned.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2008/10/30/a-silver-lining-for-russia/comment-page-1/#comment-43404</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 11:52:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well is it not true that a bully with a posse is not without a few commanding words. they just see it as a opportunity to see that things are in there right places. it just means with more of a population means more taxes going to there coffers, which in turn keeps balance in its right place. its like being born in a french quatered country in africa and having the right to live in either country. its only propaganda when the sheep start folling in starights lines to the herds. eastern europe to has always been bit of a bad balance in the last decade and them to step in and hand out Passports and citizenships is a good idea, keep in mind the more to the herd the more wool you get.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well is it not true that a bully with a posse is not without a few commanding words. they just see it as a opportunity to see that things are in there right places. it just means with more of a population means more taxes going to there coffers, which in turn keeps balance in its right place. its like being born in a french quatered country in africa and having the right to live in either country. its only propaganda when the sheep start folling in starights lines to the herds. eastern europe to has always been bit of a bad balance in the last decade and them to step in and hand out Passports and citizenships is a good idea, keep in mind the more to the herd the more wool you get.</p>
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		<title>By: E</title>
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		<dc:creator>E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 03:02:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We don&#039;t live in the Middle Ages or under Feudalism when arbitrary change of border,  replacement of  one lord with another or emergence of a new county or duchy or statelet, militant (as in case of Georgia) or ethnic and openly Nazi (as in case of Estonia) or some other such calamity would leave all or certain inhabitants of that territory either stateless or would change their nationality overnight. Certainly people who feel they are Russian citizens, are legally entitled to Russian citizenship, were born or grew up in the territory that by a sudden historic fluke perhaps temporarily ceased to belong to Russia, so those people, most naturally and under any imaginable international norm or  convention, have right to Russian citizenship and Russian passport.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We don&#8217;t live in the Middle Ages or under Feudalism when arbitrary change of border,  replacement of  one lord with another or emergence of a new county or duchy or statelet, militant (as in case of Georgia) or ethnic and openly Nazi (as in case of Estonia) or some other such calamity would leave all or certain inhabitants of that territory either stateless or would change their nationality overnight. Certainly people who feel they are Russian citizens, are legally entitled to Russian citizenship, were born or grew up in the territory that by a sudden historic fluke perhaps temporarily ceased to belong to Russia, so those people, most naturally and under any imaginable international norm or  convention, have right to Russian citizenship and Russian passport.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 01:19:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James - you cannot hand out passports. People apply for them. Russian citizenship law, passed in 1992, allows any former Soviet Union citizen to get Russian citizenship, and naturally Russian passport, if he does not possess another former Soviet Union&#039;s republic citizenship or it was &quot;granted&quot; to him or her without his consent.

Amy - Estonia is an ethnocracy. One third of population is effectively disenfranchised and deprived of the right to use their own language in public affairs.  Mind you that Russian language did not just appear there yesterday, but was the language of state for almost 300 years (since 1721, with an interruption between world wars).  Despite of the rubbish Edward Lucas, a notorious raving Russophobe wrote in his pamphlet, &quot;Baltic States&quot; are not a part of the West, but a troubled, ethnocratic statelets. Nobody&#039;s security depends on them.

Unlike US that is fermenting troubles in the former Soviet Union, arming outright fascists (as in Georgia) and financing ethnocracies,   Russia is operating within its historic and cultural sphere of influence.  It does so with consent and approval of both its own population and most of people in the territories where it is acting thus meeting the ultimate democratic criteria (not that it matters in any way).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James &#8211; you cannot hand out passports. People apply for them. Russian citizenship law, passed in 1992, allows any former Soviet Union citizen to get Russian citizenship, and naturally Russian passport, if he does not possess another former Soviet Union&#8217;s republic citizenship or it was &#8220;granted&#8221; to him or her without his consent.</p>
<p>Amy &#8211; Estonia is an ethnocracy. One third of population is effectively disenfranchised and deprived of the right to use their own language in public affairs.  Mind you that Russian language did not just appear there yesterday, but was the language of state for almost 300 years (since 1721, with an interruption between world wars).  Despite of the rubbish Edward Lucas, a notorious raving Russophobe wrote in his pamphlet, &#8220;Baltic States&#8221; are not a part of the West, but a troubled, ethnocratic statelets. Nobody&#8217;s security depends on them.</p>
<p>Unlike US that is fermenting troubles in the former Soviet Union, arming outright fascists (as in Georgia) and financing ethnocracies,   Russia is operating within its historic and cultural sphere of influence.  It does so with consent and approval of both its own population and most of people in the territories where it is acting thus meeting the ultimate democratic criteria (not that it matters in any way).</p>
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		<title>By: Amy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 20:05:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ilia, you don&#039;t have to &quot;hand&quot; the passports out en masse. Russia can simply foment unrest with the ethnic Russians minorities living within neighboring countries&#039; borders which is the case in Ukraine, Estonia and many  other neighboring countries.  Russia using their state controlled airwaves already broadcasts their propaganda to those folks.  Surely, you can recall that that game was played by Nazi Germany prior to WWII before it annexed regions where ethnic Germans resided as in Poland.

As per Edward Lucas, Russian manipulation might look like this:

&quot;The key to the West&#039;s future security is the security of the Baltic states. Estonians, Latvians and Lithuanians have thrown in their lot with us and we must not let them down. Consider this scenario. Imagine that Estonian extremists start intimidating local Russians (who amount to around a third of the Estonian population). Russia can easily stoke this covertly, while demanding publicly that Estonia crack down. Then imagine that Russian activists (again, backed, discreetly, by Moscow) set up &quot;self-defence units&quot; which start patrols, and set up checkpoints. When the Estonian authorities try to stop this, the Kremlin complains; Russian military &quot;volunteers&quot; start mustering across the border, proclaiming their intention to defend compatriots from &quot;fascism&quot;. The Russian media report this with wild enthusiasm; the Russian authorities say they cannot indefinitely restrain the spontaneous patriotic sentiments of their citizens.&quot;

http://edwardlucas.blogspot.com/2008/11/daily-telegraph-rant-today.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ilia, you don&#8217;t have to &#8220;hand&#8221; the passports out en masse. Russia can simply foment unrest with the ethnic Russians minorities living within neighboring countries&#8217; borders which is the case in Ukraine, Estonia and many  other neighboring countries.  Russia using their state controlled airwaves already broadcasts their propaganda to those folks.  Surely, you can recall that that game was played by Nazi Germany prior to WWII before it annexed regions where ethnic Germans resided as in Poland.</p>
<p>As per Edward Lucas, Russian manipulation might look like this:</p>
<p>&#8220;The key to the West&#8217;s future security is the security of the Baltic states. Estonians, Latvians and Lithuanians have thrown in their lot with us and we must not let them down. Consider this scenario. Imagine that Estonian extremists start intimidating local Russians (who amount to around a third of the Estonian population). Russia can easily stoke this covertly, while demanding publicly that Estonia crack down. Then imagine that Russian activists (again, backed, discreetly, by Moscow) set up &#8220;self-defence units&#8221; which start patrols, and set up checkpoints. When the Estonian authorities try to stop this, the Kremlin complains; Russian military &#8220;volunteers&#8221; start mustering across the border, proclaiming their intention to defend compatriots from &#8220;fascism&#8221;. The Russian media report this with wild enthusiasm; the Russian authorities say they cannot indefinitely restrain the spontaneous patriotic sentiments of their citizens.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://edwardlucas.blogspot.com/2008/11/daily-telegraph-rant-today.html" rel="nofollow">http://edwardlucas.blogspot.com/2008/11/daily-telegraph-rant-today.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 17:35:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, more or less, that is how the hand out passports.  Nobody ever asked for them, and in the case of South Ossetia, it&#039;s entirely unclear how many Georgian citizens claimed them.

We have to be very careful not to underestimate the Kremlin&#039;s ability to quickly deplete that impressive $500 billion of currency reserves.  The authoritarian system they have build is very expensive to maintain, and in the absence of functioning rule of law, the business sector relies on personal relationships with the powers to settle all kinds of disputes.  The economic crisis is dramatically amplifying the number of disputes, and the government is going to have a very tough time paying everybody off.

The revolution never starts at the bottom, but always with a split among the elite.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, more or less, that is how the hand out passports.  Nobody ever asked for them, and in the case of South Ossetia, it&#8217;s entirely unclear how many Georgian citizens claimed them.</p>
<p>We have to be very careful not to underestimate the Kremlin&#8217;s ability to quickly deplete that impressive $500 billion of currency reserves.  The authoritarian system they have build is very expensive to maintain, and in the absence of functioning rule of law, the business sector relies on personal relationships with the powers to settle all kinds of disputes.  The economic crisis is dramatically amplifying the number of disputes, and the government is going to have a very tough time paying everybody off.</p>
<p>The revolution never starts at the bottom, but always with a split among the elite.</p>
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		<title>By: Ilia G</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2008/10/30/a-silver-lining-for-russia/comment-page-1/#comment-43399</link>
		<dc:creator>Ilia G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 22:13:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have yet one person to answer me how does one &quot;hand out passports&quot;... Do they like hunt down unsuspecting crimeans/ossetians in dark alley and stuff their pockets with papers?
Everyone is playing their game of control of population. So does Ukraine. So does Russia. Russia executes its &quot;evil nationalistic&quot; plans by building housing and roads and selling them cheap gas, and Ukraine by suppressing everything russian.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have yet one person to answer me how does one &#8220;hand out passports&#8221;&#8230; Do they like hunt down unsuspecting crimeans/ossetians in dark alley and stuff their pockets with papers?<br />
Everyone is playing their game of control of population. So does Ukraine. So does Russia. Russia executes its &#8220;evil nationalistic&#8221; plans by building housing and roads and selling them cheap gas, and Ukraine by suppressing everything russian.</p>
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