Farewell to Gitmo

Further to this post, in which I expressed grave doubts that Obama’s America—however superior…

by selley on Thursday, November 6, 2008 4:20pm - 11 Comments

Further to this post, in which I expressed grave doubts that Obama’s America—however superior it will turn out to be than the Americas that preceded it—will convince Canadians of their neighbour’s overall benevolent nature, the New York Times has a sobering article on the topic of closing Guantanamo. (They also have incredibly detailed dossiers on all current and former detainees.)

Resident at the prison camp, according to the Times investigation, are:

-Men who were allegedly, at one time, potential 9/11 hijackers.

-Sixteen men “accused of some of the most significant terrorist attacks in the last decade, including the 1998 bombings at American Embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, the 2000 attack on the destroyer Cole in Yemen, and the Sept. 11 attacks.

-Twenty men accused of being Osama bin Laden’s “bodyguards.”

-And, perhaps most tellingly, “more than 60″ men who have been cleared for release or transfer, according to the Pentagon, but remain at Guantánamo because of difficulties negotiating transfer agreements between the United States and other countries.”

It’s unclear what Washington can do with some of these people even if it finds them innocent, in other words.

So, what to do? One option for Obama, which John McCain often mentioned, involves transferring the facility onto U.S. soil proper. Perhaps that would have some symbolic value, but it’s not what anyone would call a solution. And trying the detainees as civilians makes no more sense in the U.S. than it does in Canada for Omar Khadr, as the lion’s share of evidence would simply be inadmissible. You can certainly argue that if there’s no evidence, then they should go free, but as Daniel Marcus, who was the 9/11 Commission’s general counsel, tells the Times, that’s easier said than done. “It would be very difficult for a new president to come in and say, ‘I don’t believe what the CIA is saying about these guys.’”

Bill Kuebler, Omar Khadr’s tremendous military lawyer, put it to me thusly some months ago:

I don’t think the political will exists in this country to protect the human rights of detainees at Guantanamo Bay. … No one’s voter is in Gitmo. Everything there is devoted to non-U.S. citizens. And so for a Democrat or a Republican to come out and say, “I’m going to take affirmative steps to protect the rights of alleged terrorists at Guantanamo,” there’s a political cost to that.

And moreover, when you’re talking about guys like Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and other people allegedly responsible for 9/11, you’ve got to realize that the government tortured these people. And the evidence we have against them is not going to be admissible in a regular court, and I don’t think anyone—up to and including Barack Obama—is going to say, “I’m going to not prosecute Khalid Sheikh Mohammed,” or create the risk that he’s not going to be punished for 9/11, [just] because it’s the right thing to do. That’s just not going to happen.

Again, I hope he’s wrong. But closing Gitmo is a huge undertaking—way harder than opening it. Unless Obama makes it a leading priority right away, the chances of the facility shutting its doors and its inmates gaining some kind of more permanent status—in prison, back home, whatever—strike me as reasonable in Obama’s second term. Which would, of course, be great in itself. It’s just not something I’d dance in the streets about.

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  • Brian

    I’m not sure I understand your position Chris. You’d be comfortable prosecuting these people in the same courts that set OJ and / or Damian Williams free?

  • Brian

    I’m not sure I understand your position Chris. You’d be comfortable prosecuting these people in the same courts that set OJ and / or Damian Williams free?

  • http://www.macleans.ca Chris Selley

    And I’m not sure if you’re being serious or not. But no, trying people in U.S. courts for crimes they allegedly committed in Afghanistan based on evidence collected by soldiers in war zones, or by interrogators under extremely dodgy circumstances, doesn’t make me “comfortable.” There’s just only so many options available…

  • Jack Mitchell

    Hey, don’t knock ‘em, Brian, they’re the same courts that will try you.

  • Brian

    I’m very serious and one option is to keep Gitmo open and prosecute the detainees using military tribunals.

    The Pentagon has reported that over 60 detainees that were released from Gitmo have either been recaptured, killed or become fugitives again – having rejoined militant/terrorist groups fighting American forces and allies.

    I fully understand the importance of justice and human rights but also appreciate that, in some extreme cases, a nation’s security can and should be its top priority.

  • http://www.macleans.ca Chris Selley

    Well, sure. But the pace of the tribunals thus far is totally incompatible with a shut-down-Gitmo pledge (unless it’s really a move-Gitmo-to-Texas pledge). Taking Obama at his word—which is the point I’m trying to make—the tribunal approach seems like a non-starter for the new administration.

  • Jack Mitchell

    What I don’t grasp about the Gitmo situation is that the Americans must be holding those prisoners for a reason, right? I mean, that’s why they can’t (the reasoning goes) be released. So why can’t their CIA evidence be used to try and, hopefully, convict them? And if there is no evidence, why are they being held?

  • Sisyphus

    Sadly, Jack, there’s that little problem of evidence obtained through use of torture being inadmissible in a real court of law.

    So, a significant number of them can’t be convicted. There is also a significant number of them who can’t be released because no one else in the world will take them.

    Not even The Coalition of the Willing.

  • http://kitchenersown.blogspot.com/ Lord Kitchener’s Own

    Wasn’t McCain going to shut down Gitmo too?

    Heck, hasn’t BUSH even talked about shutting down Gitmo?

  • Jack Mitchell

    Ah, right, Sisyphus, I forgot. Hmm, well, maybe they could set them all up on some remote island paradise – unable to leave, of course – with every luxury (including family) and a few destroyers patrolling, St. Helena-style.

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