Careful….some say the natzis (notice no cap for that word) are not among the opposition.

And now you find it perfectly clever to cheer on the separatists and put them in power. What great federalists you are.

If the Nazis were in opposition you’d be forming a coalition with them I’m sure.

Congrats on your brilliant visions for the country!

Here go the right wingers again fuddling the facts. Nobody denies that the Liberals originally sent the troops to Afghanistan. However, after the 2006 election the troops were in a combat role in the deadliest part of Afghanistan, in the south. Prior to 2006, actually in 2005 deployed elements of JTF2, Canada’s elite special- forces unit, were sent into southern Afghanistan to work with our allies in counter-insurgency operations, again to help provide security and stability so re-building can take place. That is all that was in the south in 2005. The previous 4 years prior to 2006 consisted of 8 deaths, compared to 89 deaths in the last 2.5 years. And that’s the point I am trying to make. After the election the troops were committed to a combat role in the deadly southern part of Afghanistan without the proper equipment and here is what hurts – with the knowledge that they were ill equipped. Now you can fuddle this all you want, but these are the facts.

If someone says: “I don’t need talking points. I’ve never seen talking points”…

…it means “Boy howdy did I need those talking points I’m using right now.”

(Watching the Conservatives slip as badly as the Republicans is astonishingly funny.)

After your opinion, Karol, is it worth, Google Translate of? Which of languages is best for the jingo to play?

“…where did this government get the mandate to send our troops into the most dangerous part of Afghanistan without helicopters and other necessary equipment required to adequately protect themselves?”

Well, actually, that was the Martin government. Lieberals have short memories.

Dear W. Laporte,
I am glad that you did not hurt yourself on your descent back to Earth.
Cheers

Who am I? I sir/madam am a Canadian living in a democracy that includes freedom of expression in voicing concerns about the people that represent me and my fellow Canadians in the Government of Canada.

Prime Minister Harper works for all of us. That’s the brilliance of democracy: I’m free to question the judgment of those who ask to represent me.

If I wanted to be barred from questioning my leaders, I’d move to a monarchy or dictatorship.

Do you see, Karol, how easy it is to burst your bubble of self-righteousness and self-importance? Do you see? Honestly, why do all conversations with the right-wing boil down to basic civics lessons?

Do you see how easy it is to burst your bubble of self righteousness and self importance??

Gee it seems to be awful hard for you to face the truth. Trying to muddy up the subject again by questioning my patriotism or support of our troops. Right wingers do not have the monopoly on patriotism or a willingness to support our troops. And what to hell has Layton got to do with this debate? And who are you to tell anyone to keep their mouths shut? Are you afraid of the truth? And who are you to infer that other people do not honour our troops not only on Remembrance Day but every day. Mr Stevens spoke the truth, and he is an honourable man, and he is relevant. Mr. Stevens is the leader of the Progressive Canadian Party, a live and upcoming party with certified status. Bet you didn’t know that huh? Doesn’t surprise me!!

World is watching and Harper’s decision for obvious resons was not popular domestically but it was admired internationally. Things have changed since then and they have changed also because Canadian soldiers put their lives at risk and died.

I clearly remember how Jack Layton earned his moniker as Taliban Jack.
I clearly remember clowns at Toronto City Hall deriding Canadian soldiers fighting in Afghanistan.
I clearly remember Ontario Ministry of Children and Youth Services refusing to provide funding for psychological services to children whose fathers died in Afghanistan.

Harper gave Canadian Armed Forces reason to be proud again.

The Hon. Sinclair Stevens, Leader of the P.C. can say whatever he likes as he is not in public office and P.C. is no longer relevant. At least people like Miller and Layton learned how to keep their mouth shut and honour our soldiers on Remembrance Day.

Lets be clear on what I don’t or do like. I do not like right wing conservatives trying to change my country with every low tactic means ever devised. You just made my argument, Never own up to anything just deny deny and blame it on others. This party calls themselves conservatives, they sure are not of the same mold as the former great Progressive Conservative Party. You can call a shovel by any name, but in the end it is still a shovel e.g (conservative? reform?).

As far as the Afghanistan mission is concerned, again you are muddying the waters. And blaming it on others Here is an extrapolation from the opinions of the PCP of Canada.

The Hon. Sinclair Stevens, Leader of the P.C. Party, states:

“Prime Minister Harper, soon after he took power in 2006, was wrong in extending our military involvement in Afghanistan into the dangerous south of that country.

“He was wrong for three (3) reasons:

“First he knew Canada did not have the necessary helicopters to transport our troops into such dangerous points of engagement.

“Second he knew we did not have proper armoured ground vehicles to carry our men to such battle fields.

“Third he knew Canada did not have a proper commitment from 90% of the other NATO nations to deploy troops into the dangerous south yet Mr. Harper recklessly committed our troops, leaving them exposed.

“Mr. Harper simply wanted to please President Bush of the U.S.A.

“This month General Lewis McKenzie has confirmed the area needs 10,000 more NATO troops.

“As a result of Mr. Harper’s wrong decision in the 2-1/2 years since he took power in 2006, we have lost 89 soldiers and triple that in casualties. In the four (4) years prior to 2006, Canada lost eight (8) soldiers in Afghanistan.

“This reckless decision by Mr. Harper must be condemned and corrected.

This was written by the Honourable Sinclair Stevens. A former Progressive Conservative Minister, An admirable man with integrity.

It’s like Greed Tragedy.

Are you in the tank for this new coalition or what?

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Nah, it’s just a slow erosion of democracy, or a coup d’etat of democracy itself, by good’ol Stevie.

After losing a confidence vote is too late. By then the Liberal-NDP-Bloc coalition would be in control. Harper and Flaherty have to fall on their swords before then, to allow a new Conservative PM and finance minister to go to Parliament next week to pre-empt the opposition coalition winning a vote.

After the opposition coalition defeats the government on a confidence vote is too later. The Conservative Caucus has to demand Harper and Flaherty step down early next week.

My preference is for Prentice and Ablonczy.

Flattered? . . . I’m happy you are flattered, I guess you feel honoured the same way GW Bush must feel honoured that there are entire websites dedicated to highlighting the inanities he has uttered.

I used to read the G&M comment boards just to see what you posted, it was a cheap source of laughs.

In parting, please do me a favour . . . for old times sake, please write a posting containing “Librano Gang” . . . I hope you copyrighted that coinage. Also, maybe some railing against the divorce courts, that would also be amusing.

ex. The Conbot caller is fear-mongering about being in bed with socialists and separatists- Drink!

We must have been writing similar comments at the same time….or maybe we’re conservative plants following the same talking points! dum dum dah!

This is an old CP trick by now. Remember the “oily” ads which were never aired but were all over the media? I’m surprised nobody in the media has caught on.

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Yes, ha ha ha…it works especially well when the news stories indicate that whenever you hear these talking points they are just really propaganda, it also works especially well when the context is framed as being without merit since these are talking points issued from CPC HQ and not the actual feelings of the people…those clever CPC guys, so clever, yeah right…..propagandizing the propaganda, what a joke you people reying to spin everything as ‘this is great news for the CPC, cripes its like watching a re-run of the Republican parties strategy for the last 8 yrs.

We must have been writing similar comments at the same time….or maybe we’re conservative plants following the same talking points! dum dum dah!

This is an old CP trick by now. Remember the “oily” ads which were never aired but were all over the media? I’m surprised nobody in the media has caught on.

“FB – The only thing that shocks me is that Giorno’s bulletin was apparently leaked to the Globe and Mail, which suggests that the legendary PMO control over caucus may be slipping. The talking points are just fun!”

I do not know how to tell you that your take on this leak is very naive to say the least.
Please tell me this: why would CPC want to spend their money to spread their message if they can leak it out to G&M and they will do it for them free of charge and spread it out as an inside scoop???

Psychological war is best fought when you use your enemies to spread your message as it damages their morale as much as it boosts morale of your own troops

There’s a video, but no words. Why not?

This stunning surprise is further compounded by a new Kady post saying essentially the same thing as the morning one.

Of course we all know that the Liberals and NDP have never stopped to have talking points, their supporters would never call talk shows to express anything other than heartfelt support for their cause, that only resembles the party line by pure coincidence.

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