Ten Points on The Madness

BY ANDREW POTTER

by Andrew Potter on Tuesday, December 2, 2008 1:35pm - 106 Comments

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Go away for a few days and all hell breaks loose. I’ve spent the last 12 hours trying to catch up, here are my thoughts, for what they are worth, though I’m sure most of these points have been made already:

1. My overwhelming sense of all this is that it is a case of an entire coop of chickens coming home to roost. For the Tories, especially Harper, he is getting exactly what he asked for. He called an election based on various contrived and entirely spurious reasons. He ran for re-election not on policies but on leadership, then decided to cut the public subsidy to his opponents. What did he think would happen?

2. For the Liberals, they should be careful what they ask for. Under Dion, they have spent the last two years tacking leftward, and are now poised to enter into a coalition with a party whose economic views are not just obsolete, but dangerous. This is very reckless for both the country and for the party’s brand. My views on this have not changed since I wrote a column in the mag a few issues ago about the notion of uniting the left: This coalition could well destroy the Liberal brand.

3. For Canada, the oldest of the roosting fowl were conceived during the sponsorship scandal. You can draw a direct line from the sponsorships to Chretien’s frantic, dying efforts to fix his legacy by changing the role of money in the federal political system. Of all the changes to the financing of political parties, the per-vote public subsidy has had the most perverse consequences, the worst of which is the flourishing of a four, now five, party system. The sponsorship scandal will continue to wreak havoc with this country’s politics for years, if not decades.

4. What is going on right now — the backroom negotiations, the Tory campaign to save themselves, etc. — is actually a symptom of the disease caused by the public subsidy. Which is (one reason) why I think Harper was right to suggest getting rid of it. Great idea. Too bad he didn’t feel like making it an election issue.

5. The behaviour by the opposition parties on this is disgusting. The closest analogy I can think of is the behaviour of Canada’s student movement since the mid-nineties. Once upon a time, students protested various social, political, and military injustices. Now all they do is complain about tuition levels. Similarly, the opposition, especially the Liberals, has spent the last 2.5 years supporting Harper in what was effectively a Grand Coalition, a point Wells has made repeatedly. Nothing worth taking the government down over, until their own financial interest is at stake. Nice work guys.

6. To a large extent, we are seeing the Europeanization of Canadian politics. I’ll be honest: I frigging hate it. But a lot of people out there have been asking for this for a while, ever since the whinging about the “democratic deficit” took off at the tail end of the Gritlock era. Majority parliamentary rule is probably the most accountable political system that exists. We are moving about as far as possible away from that ideal. The country will be worse off for it. You think we had a democratic deficit before? Now you’re soaking in it.

7. I don’t understand why various pundits keep saying that Harper’s reputation as a strategic genius is in tatters. Harper has gone through three phases over the past 10 years: Sulky ideologue, job-seeking compromiser, and pure-tactical machievel. In that period, he has faced off three times, losing once to Paul Martin, barely beating Paul Martin, and barely beating Stephane Dion. What genius? What strategy?

8. Nevertheless, I agree with Coyne: Harper’s best bet still might be to just walk away from this and let the Liberals wear this. They want to govern with the commies and the separatists? Fill your boots.

9. I think Stephen Harper’s remaining time in federal politics is numbered in weeks or months. I say 50-50 he’s gone from the leadership and gone from parliament by March.

10. All things considered, I’d rather see an election than see the coalition take power.

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  • Steve M

    “The loser on all fronts is Harper and the CPC,”

    I agree about Harper (and probably Flaherty), but I think the CPC (under a different leader) will likely benefit from this in the long term. Why? Because I believe there are a lot more right-leaning Liberals voters who will be disgusted by this coalition than there are left-leaning Conservartive voters intrigued by it.

  • T. Thwim

    From my understanding, the GG’s primary concern at this point is a working government with minimum delays given the crisis situation.

    This suggests the end of the line for Harper, as prorogue or election both come with significant delays.

  • TJ Cook

    Steve M – thanks for softening your message a bit, I find it distressing when Canadians turn on the GG, of all people.

    And while her role is now largely ceremonial, she has not lost the responsibility to ask the opposition of a minority parliament if they can form a government. That’s how parliamentary democracies work.

    hosertohoosier – rule of thumb: in a political context, when someone uses the phrase “blame game”, they’re to blame and are trying to redirect the conversation. (I’m referring to Cons here, not you personally).

    We can suggest all the alternatives we want, but the rules are clear about what’s going to happen.

  • Stephen

    The GG’s job is cermonial….She has lots of powers and ISNT supposed to use them. She is the Commander in Chief of the Armed Fores…..dont see her doing that job either.

    The opposition has banked on it, too much. She shouldnt have to substitute her judgement or we wouldnt go around using telegenic ex journalists as the criteria for choice.

    Sitting at a table with the Bloc to sign a formal deal for 2.5 years…..what a stupid, stupid mistake, legitimizing the Bloc as chooser of Canadian governments, nice going Mr Clarity. Dion and Layton have ignited a firestorm all by themselves, can’t say I didn’t warn you.

  • Stephen

    TJ, when are we going to get over her responsibilities….she has no responsibility to ask the opposition anything. The GG only ever formally speaks to the PM….one government at a time. She then decides whether or not to follow his advice.

    She isnt a camp counsellor.

  • TJ Cook

    Stephen – there’s just nothing else to say. You can assert till you’re blue in the face, but that just doesn’t change the functioning of Canada’s democracy.

    You’ll see.

  • Austin So

    Uhh…Stephen…it’s 18 months with the BQ and 2.5 years with the NDP.

    The BQ (as per Duceppe) wanted a more formal recognition of Quebec’s nationality and didn’t get it.

    But you see…even he recognized that economic stability trumps all things.

    And a challenge for all of you against the coalition:

    Which is more stable?

    1. a CPC led government that threatens to make all bills as confidence measures
    2. an LPC-led government troika that has a written agreement that there will be no measures of confidence for at least 1.5 years, and maybe as long as 2.5 years.

    Austin

    BTW… Steve M…you may be right, but this will likely occur after the Harper faction within the CPC vanishes and the old venerable PC party returns. As a left-leaning Liberal, I have no problem with that.

  • BDJ

    “BTW… Steve M…you may be right, but this will likely occur after the Harper faction within the CPC vanishes and the old venerable PC party returns. As a left-leaning Liberal, I have no problem with that.”

    That would only happen if Western Canada were to separate. More or less because many in the west now have an aversion to nanny statism.

  • Austin So

    Sure BDJ…how’s that $50/barrel crude doing for Alberta? Tar sands are belly-up and Alberta is going to pay for the clean-up for generations.

    Let’s just see who has nanny-state-itis…

    Austin

  • BDJ

    “Sure BDJ…how’s that $50/barrel crude doing for Alberta? Tar sands are belly-up and Alberta is going to pay for the clean-up for generations.

    Let’s just see who has nanny-state-itis…”

    Actually that was the state of things in the early 90′s as well. The difference is that unlike statists such as yourself, Albertan’s tend to favour the free market and individual initiative, unlike people like yourself who think that a bureaucrat should be in charge of all of our economic decisions.

    However given the fact that you’re obviously anti-business, I won’t indulge your little machinations.

  • DR

    Andrew Potter is the kind of bad columnist it makes me question myself when I agree with him. This isn’t one of those times, luckily.

  • BDJ

    Austin, if you want to continue this discussion, then I suggest you look at the provinces of both BC and Saskatchewan, two provinces which have adopted the idea that the best way to spur economic growth is in fact by encouraging investment. Something which has done far more for this country then Universal Childcare or giving funding to crappy art ever will.

  • madeyoulook

    Andrew Potter, sir, I echo Jack Mitchell. Excellent post, even if I don’t align squarely with each argument. It’s Parliament, a minority falls on confidence, so GG can certainly hunt around for confidence elsewhere. I hate this ménage-à-quoi? three-way-of-convenience, but for different reasons. You see it as damaging (well, you say destructive…) to the Liberal brand. I see it as terrible for the country. But we must agree it is legal and democratic because them’s the rules we have democratically not-changed in generations.

  • Austin So

    BDJ, I’m amazed at your ability to conjure up strawmen. It’s almost like the bars are there to keep everyone out rather than to keep you in.

    Please continue…it’s not often I see people smacking themselves in the face with such…fervour…

    Austin

  • Brad Sallows

    >Let’s be clear folks, your choices are NOT the conservatives or the coalition.

    If we have an election right now, those are exactly the choices. If a CPC minority is elected, in a few days we will have the coalition in its place. I don’t see a majority for the Liberals as even a remote possibility. Now that we know all the parties have ideas up their sleeves they didn’t bother to mention during the last campaign, let’s have a campaign during which they can discuss those ideas (and go into more detail on how $30B will be accumulated and divided).

    If the NDP/Liberals are scared to face the voters right now, all the more reason to have an election to prove this isn’t just about sitting in the big chairs and allowing the NDP to conduct their first cabinet apprenticeships during a significant economic downturn. That would be in line with the pro-democracy principles which got this whole thing rolling (funding cut = attack on democracy, remember?) – the people get to affirm their Parliament based on what the parties are doing, not what they didn’t say they’d do or what they said they wouldn’t do.

  • Ti-Guy

    But if we have another election, how will the citizenry stop Harper and the Conservatives from lying to us, like they did in the last campaign? Conservative supporters…do you have any ideas on how to stop Harper from lying?

    And it’s a serious question, so stop lying for a bit and help me out here.

  • Brad Sallows

    All the parties lied, so it’s a bit of a wash there. Who knows what else is up the sleeves of the Conservatives and the Coalition; the latter haven’t said much more than that they expect to spend a lot of money, assuming they can muster the decisiveness to act on what their external advisors tell them to do. There is lots of latitude to make it up as they go along, while the NDP cabinet ministers learn on the job. Think of it as a Training Parliament, and try to forget about whatever pressing real-time concerns might go down the sewer pipe.

    But we don’t need to worry so much about the lies this time around; we just need to send a clear answer to the question: Conservatives or Coalition?

  • Ti-Guy

    All the parties lied, so it’s a bit of a wash there.

    Not a wash. Conservatives lie more. Harper lied in the House, today, remember.?

  • BDJ

    “BDJ, I’m amazed at your ability to conjure up strawmen. It’s almost like the bars are there to keep everyone out rather than to keep you in.

    Please continue…it’s not often I see people smacking themselves in the face with such…fervour…”

    Don’t worry loser, if you can’t defend your half-baked beliefs than as I stated before you can stick with you can go back to stroking you’re ego.

    “But if we have another election, how will the citizenry stop Harper and the Conservatives from lying to us, like they did in the last campaign? ”

    You mean the Liberals never lie, or the Bloc and NDP who planned this coalition before the fiscal update.

    So what you’re essentially saying is that you don’t like elections because politicians lie, which is laughable to say the least. However, given the left wing belief that Canadian’s cannot take care of themselves and require a bureaucrat to make decisions for them when it comes to what they read in the press or how they spend their money, I can’t say I’m surprised.

    “Conservative supporters…do you have any ideas on how to stop Harper from lying?

    And it’s a serious question, so stop lying for a bit and help me out here.”

    The difference is that the NDP started the idea of this coalition approximately a month ago before the fiscal update, and then used the “economic crisis” as a reason to topple the government. However given the general left wing viewpoints on here which basically argue that if we only throw enough money in a burning barrel that everyone will magically have a job, I shouldn’t be surprised.

  • BDJ

    “Not a wash. Conservatives lie more. Harper lied in the House, today, remember.?”

    As did the Liberals, NDP, and Bloc, who all lied about their intention with this coalition. Not to mention their inability to even recognize that the points of contention on the fiscal update was actually later taken out due to outrage from the opposition. Now the coalition is stating they want a coalition to bring about a “stimulus,” however they have no idea what exactly this stimulus will do, or which particular businesses will get rewarded and which ones will be left out.

  • BDJ

    But I will say this, the only MP in Parliament who seems to have a lick of sense is Keith Martin.

  • boudica

    BDJ, Harper lies every time he takes a breath. He did, or at least tried to pull together the exact same coalition in 2004.

    Does that make him a traitor or is this the part where you ignore my question

  • Ti-Guy

    As did the Liberals, NDP, and Bloc, who all lied about their intention with this coalition.

    No., that was just the lie Stephen Harper told you.

  • BDJ

    “BDJ, Harper lies every time he takes a breath. He did, or at least tried to pull together the exact same coalition in 2004.

    Does that make him a traitor or is this the part where you ignore my question”

    I enjoy the leftist rhetoric, however said coalition did not have any conditions and simply requested that the opposition be consulted if the PM were to call a snap election.

    “No., that was just the lie Stephen Harper told you.”

    This is the main reason why I distrust Liberals [who are more inline with social democrats than liberals] simply due to their belief that a government can do no wrong as long as it’s a Liberal in power. That’s not true, and as much as you may dislike it the fact is that you’re party is only in this situation because of the fact that the former leader left a parting gift for Paul Martin, and with a lack of corporate donations the LPC is in dire straights.

    But it seems to be the folly that I haven’t even seen a single defense of this coalition, outside of those who are stating that they hate Stephen Harper and the Conservatives which is about as much substance as one can expect these days.

  • edeast

    Hey Macleans moderators, you can break the tiny links. They are not necessary.

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