Liveblogging the PM’s visit to Rideau Hall

by kadyomalley on Thursday, December 4, 2008 7:23am - 508 Comments

Liveblogging the PM’s visit to Rideau Hall

ITQ will be joining the media stakeout on the Governor General’s doorstep this morning – check back at 9ish for full liveblogging coverage.

8:52:01 AM
Greetings fellow monarchist (and not so much) butterflies! Just a quick update from the road – literally; I’m currently on the bridge to New Edinburgh – I may be a teeny bit late in getting this on the spot liveblogging on the way. Just a few minutes, most likely – unless I accidentally walk into an open manhole while composing this entry, which would be somewhat fitting, really. I promise that In return, I won’t complain if the PM turns out to be running a bit behind schedule himself. Gosh, isn’t this exciting?

9:02:18 AM
We have protesters, ladies and gentlemen! They are clustered in front of the gates – which I just whizzed past in vehicular comfort after one of my colleagues spotted me trudging by the side of the road. They seem to be exclusively anti-coalition — and the signs look homemade — but not quite at angry mob status yet. I’d guess like – two dozen? Maybe more?

Anyway, I’m here now, so I’ll scope out the scene and report back in a few minutes.

9:06:14 AM
Okay, so the cameras are staking out the back entrance – which is around the corner from the iconic shot of the front doors – although there is a small contigent in front of the water fountain, which is currently full of ice water and chilly reporters. I don’t think there’s much chance that he’ll stop to chat with us before – or after – his meeting, but you never know. Hope springs eternal in a liveblogger’s chest!

At least it’s not brutally cold – in fact, it’s almost balmy for December.

9:10:46 AM

Much discussion of The Tape Fiasco amongst the press, although the consensus seems to be that the speech itself actually wasn’t bad, as far as the substance. If only it hadn’t been delivered via Skype using a shaky wifi connection. For the want of a competent videographer, etc.

9:13:15 AM
So apparently, he’ll be arriving by the *front* entrance, which has sparked a mad mass dash for the fountain. This isn’t like a normal Rideau Hall stakeout – no media tents, no Don Newman. At least we have Dimitri – wearing a high risk but potentially gamechanging tie that features crosshatching *and* stripes – to spread love and good will from the PMO. But no hot chocolate, alas.

Apparently, the PM will have a “sit down” with the GG, after which he will possibly have a statement for us. Or he’ll just stomp out in a dark rage.

9:16:48 AM
Kory Teneycke is dealing with a minor – but growing – media insurrection for his decision to block the cameras from filming the PM’s actual entrance. “Do you own this land?” One reporter asks.

9:18:51 AM
Poor Kory. He’s been surrounded. “I’m not going to have this discussion on camera,” he says.

9:20:37 AM
Now one of the PM’s security guards is scrumming – unwillingly. This is so much more interesting than I expected! See, it pays to show up early.

9:22:34 AM
Alright, the revolution has begun. The cameras are reassembling outside the side entrance – where we’re not supposed to be shooting – and the security seems to have capitulated to the mob.

9:24:58 AM
Colleague Wherry is here, and has joined us on the barricades! “We will have an arrival shot,” one producer says into his cell phone. Oh, it’s on.

9:26:31 AM
And apparently, the GG is meeting with the opposition leaders this afternoon.

9:27:56 AM
Ooh, the motorcade just blew by – on the way to the *other* back entrance. The backiest of all. “What are you afraid of, sir?” Yells someone from the crowd. I can’t actually see what’s going on, being short and all, but the buzz in the crowd is downright hostile.

9:30:11 AM
The PM waved at us as he drove by. That’s nice, at least. Now Kory is telling the crowd that they’re waiting until they get an answer from the GG before heading to Woodstock for the auto plant announcement.

9:32:04 AM
Okay, so if they get an answer right away, it’s off to Woodstock, where he will have a media availability. If not, he’ll give a statement somewhere, at some point.

9:34:49 AM
Still waiting – and going to take a brief break from liveblogging to let my fingers unfreeze. It’s not that cold, I know – unless you happen to be typing on your berry pretty much nonstop. If something happens in the next few minutes, I’ll be back – otherwise, time for a health break, everyone!

Kory just went inside to find out what’s going on, by the way. “And warm up,” he admits.

9:40:50 AM
The coffee, I’m told is not very good, and not even warm.

9:50:18 AM
A sudden flurry of media movement to the front entrance. Apparently he’s coming out. Or not. Nobody knows everything, which is somehow comforting, since someone suddenly knowing anything would be a radical shift.

9:51:36 AM
All eyes and lenses are on the front door, which is festively bedecked in wreathery. Rosemary Thompson is doing a standup behind me that began with the words “Any minute now”…

New theory: if he doesn’t get his answer, he’ll go out the back door. Or the side door. Or sit there in her vestibule in a black rage until she makes up her mind.

9:57:42 AM
The motorcade is still outside, which means he’s still inside.

10:00:20 AM
The camera throng – of which I am now a part – is becoming alarmed by my incessent teethchattering and trembling. Gloves are being offered. So gallant.

10:02:49 AM
Hmm. Kory never came back, did he?

10:05:32 AM
Maybe they’re trying to freeze us out. Still no word from inside – and no sign of anyone at all from PMO. 41 minutes and counting, y’all. Not that we’re counting.

10:10:29 AM
Every now and then, you can just make out the distant sound of disgruntledment from the protesters out front.

10:17:04 AM
And he’s coming out! Or – people are coming out, anyway. Not sure if the PM is among them. Also, a tip to those organizing nonpartisan grassroots demonstrations: most of us who work on the Hill can recognize Conservative staffers – even when they’re all decked out like ordinary Canadians.

10:20:39 AM
We’re starting to wonder if the opening of the doors a few minutes ago was just an attempt to distract us from the fact that the PM is going to leave by the side door. We’re not that hard to distract, apparently.

10:26:44 AM
The sun keeps flickering off and on. We can’t decide whether it’s a good omen for the PM or not.

10:29:31 AM
We just saw the flash of a camera inside the foyer, but nobody knows if that means anything. I thought I’d pass it on anyway, though.

10:34:44 AM
I have left the frontlines of the barricades and am now standing by the fountain with Colleague Wherry and company. It’s a little warmer here in the sun, but not much. I can’t feel my toes at this point, which is actually an interesting sensation.

10:38:26 AM
There was just a sound check from an unknown source. It was a little like suddenly hearing the voice of God saying, “Test … Test ..”

10:40:46 AM
The two-man PMO communication team hasn’t resurfaced, which makes me think he’s not coming out anytime soon. Unfortunately, as long as he’s inside the compound, we have to stay here. For Canadians!

10:44:17 AM
Apparently, CTV is reporting that the Woodstock trip has been cancelled. Oooh. That doesn’t sound good.

10:47:06 AM
The atmosphere out here is getting downright festive, mostly out of a desperate desire to distract ourselves from the cold.

11:00:23 AM
Well, they just closed the front doors, but apologized for getting us all excited by, you know, moving.

11:02:32 AM
I am now huddled by the barricade, listening to Bob Fife do his standup in hopes of learning something – anything! – about what’s going on inside. Yes, it’s come to this. He seems to think that they “chatted” for a while, and then she went off to talk to her advisors.

11:06:40 AM
Update: According to someone who just heard Jean Lapierre, the GG’s advisors told her to tell the PM that she’ll see him on Tuesday. No idea if that’s true, or just Jean Lapierre being mischievous.

11:13:16 AM
Running! Camera crews running! They’re like gazelles, these guys – they can sense danger. Which of course means a good shot.

11:19:13 AM
The doors are open again! Still no sign of Kory or Dimitri, however.

11:21:40 AM
The RCMP detail has emerged once again – two of them, a man and a woman – and we’re on high alert in the media pit.

11:23:56 AM
Could they be calling in the Queen to settle this? If she says no, does he have any route to appeal?

11:26:11 AM
The podium is here!

11:27:12 AM
You know, I don’t think any of us have the slightest idea what he’s about to tell us. This is just — neat. Right now, the podium attendants are hooking up the mics.

11:31:11 AM
Again – for some reason that last bulletin didn’t go through – CTV is reporting that she *will* prorogue. No idea what that is based on, but it could well be true.

11:36:01 AM
PMO now saying the prorogue was granted, as per CBC. Nobody is telling us anything, of course.

11:37:28 AM
We can hear chants of “Harper! Harper!” coming from down the road. Perhap the PM will stop and chat with them on his way out!

11:42:27 AM
Yes, we’re still out here. No, he hasn’t come out. Yes, it’s still cold.

11:45:59 AM
It’s Dimitri! He resurfaced! The PM will make a statement, and then take four questions, which we can decide amongst ourselves.

11:47:58 AM
Oh, there’s Kory, too. He looks warm. The sky, incidentally, has gone dark and there are shards of what seem to be icy sleet icily sleeting.

11:50:06 AM
Yay, snow on the berryscreen. Best stakeout ever! At least it’s about to end. Okay, here he comes – sixty second warning.

11:52:00 AM
Here he comes – wearing a dark cloak. A long black cloak, which wouldn’t have been my choice, given the context. He does sound sick, actually – or throat hoarsey at least – and he confirms that the GG has agreed to prorogue Parliament. He says that last Friday, he asked Canadians to give their feedback – and they did. When the House cvmes back, the budget will be the first order of business.

He won’t tell us about his chat with the GG, and once again says that Canadians want to make the economy their priority.

11:56:14 AM
Hail? Seriously?

Does he keep saying that it’s up to three parties to work together? Does that mean he’s officially denounced the parliamentary presence of the Bloc?

11:57:06 AM
Rosemary Thompson asks if he made a mistake, and how he will rebuild the trust of the opposition parties. He defends the initial move to pull public financing, and claims the public “never suppoorted’ it in the first place. And …he gives us his version of a timeline, but declines to acknowledge any mistakes were made. “We have to do some trustbuilding on both sides,” he says.

12:01:50 PM
Y’all, I apologize for the dearth of updates – I can barely see my berry screen through the sleet, and I’m sure most of you are watching this live. He is sounding sort of vaguely conciliatory – or is that in denial? – and CP just asked if he is “delaying the inevitable”. Is he really just launching into an election campaign? The PM denies that his government uses public resources on an election campaign – that’s a very strict rule – and says he’ll be concentrating primarily on the budget. He hopes the opposition parties will do the same – and he makes a not so veiled reference to some opposition members who would rather work *with* the government on the economy.

Oh, except the Bloc. The Bloc aren’t interested in working on the economy – there is a “fundamental difference.” The othr three parties have “very different responsibilities.”

12:08:11 PM
More going after the Bloc – boy, it’s going to be embarrassing if he ends up needing their votes to support his government at budget time – and then the same answer in French – at least, I’m assuming it was, I’m sure if not, it will be noted – before Dimitri puts all of us out of our hypothermic misery and prorogues the press conference. Which ITQ entirely supports, given the grave temperature crisis that we face.

With that, I’m going to sign off and get warm. See you in a bit!

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  • bud

    Thwim:

    I’m, very happy for you, but let’s face it, not every Canadian is lucky enough to inherit. Frankly if your political acumen is indicative of your financial acumen then obviously you should spend , spend, spend.

  • Andrew (not Potter or Coyne)

    The precedent here is that the PM can prorogue at any time, for any length of time (up to one year), despite not demonstrating a command of the House of Commons. All of the legitimacy of the executive branch (that is, the PM and cabinet) flows from it having the confidence of the House of Commons.

    Thus, to undo the damage this precedent does to Canadian democracy, we need to clarify that the PM can only prorogue the House given a motion supporting prorogation has been passed by the House of Commons. This prorogation allows Canada to be governed by a run-away PM for a period of one year, without any accountability to the HoC. That is incredibly dangerous, and must be immediately rectified.

  • Stephen

    Andrew P+C

    Whaaaaa….where is this thing that it is up to a year……and what is this about no command of the House. I am not blind to the fact that a letter was sent…BUT only 10 days ago the government received a vote of confidence with the acceptance of the Throne Speech. Until there was a vote of non confidence he has the confidence of the house…..kind of tautology.

    This kills me, now we are going to graft on more ridiculous and useless additions to Westminster because someone didnt get a result they didnt like…..I dont have the time to go through past posts where various people said this is how Westminster works its the system we have so the GG has no choice…..guess what, what we saw is how it works. I look forward to the Liberals and NDP challenging it in court, please, be my guest.

    You have no idea what constraints Mme Jean placed on him, if any. The PM made a public statement that the house comes back on the 26th of Jan and the first order of business is the budget, reasonable to assume this was either a constraint or a promise. Where in the world are you getting the fact that this now creates a preendent for a year prorogue……he likely could have prorogued for a year anyway, already in the rules I suspect.

    Sorry, Dion misread his political science textbooks and thought he could ram this one through because he sure didnt want to face an election, he built a startegy that had no Plan B…some would argue no Plan A. The crown remains unpoliticized, despite Mr Dion’s, Mr Laytons and Mr Duceppe’s best efforts to do otherwise. This is almost the most important rule that was maintained. Because if she starts putting her thumb on the scale then so can other GG’s……not a road to follow.

    And guess what, the house probably will prorogue for the summer in May, going into the Liberal leadership convention and by the time they return in Sept we will have passed this mythical no election so soon after the last one so the PM gets to advise for an election and the GG accepts again with no worries…….thats Westminster. I suspect we will see a more disciplined govt and oppsoition at that point since the threat and uncertainty of an election will keep them in line.

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  • motor

    PM Harper is a Fascist

  • motor

    The 14 points of Fascism

    1 Powerful and Continuing Nationalism

    Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.

    2 Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights

    Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of “need.” The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.

    3 Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause

    The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial, ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.

    4 Supremacy of the Military

    Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.

    5 Rampant Sexism

    The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Opposition to abortion is high, as is homophobia and anti-gay legislation and national policy.

    6 Controlled Mass Media

    Sometimes the media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.

    7 Obsession with National Security

    Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.

    8 Religion and Government are Intertwined

    Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government’s policies or actions.

    9 Corporate Power is Protected

    The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.

    10 Labor Power is Suppressed

    Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed.

    11 Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts

    Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts is openly attacked, and governments often refuse to fund the arts.

    12 Obsession with Crime and Punishment

    Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.

    13 Rampant Cronyism and Corruption

    Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.

    14 Fraudulent Elections

    Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.

  • motor

    Harper prorogued the fall session of Parliament to Oct. 16 2007.

    Parliament was scheduled to resume on Sept. 17 2007, but Harper had chosen to end the First Session of Canada’s 39th Parliament early.

    Parliament would have begin with a throne speech that would have, in effect, set the stage for a vote of non-confidence. The parties would vote on the speech within six working days.

    *This is getting ‘habitual’

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