The Upside of The Madness

While everyone was staring at their televisions yesterday waiting for the PM to emerge…

by Andrew Potter on Friday, December 5, 2008 8:40pm - 97 Comments

While everyone was staring at their televisions yesterday waiting for the PM to emerge from Rideau Hall to tell us all whassup, I was crammed into a CBC booth doing Radio Q along with Tory spindoctor Tim Powers and his NDP counterpart Brad Lavigne. It was supposed to be a non-partisan look at the nature of the messaging coming out of the government and coalition camps, and Brad and Tim were both great. I was a bit of a third wheel and didn’t have much to add, but you can listen to it here if you like. 

But the one thing I did say I thought was worthwhile was that while the whole affair was pretty sordid with neither side acquitting itself well, it was at most a political, but not constitutional, crisis. In fact, I said (to Jian’s obvious surprise) was that democracy had been well-served by the events. Thirty six hours later, it is one of the few things about The Madness that I still feel some certainty about: That it was in many ways an excellent Civics 101 moment for Canadians. As Brad pointed out, Canadians were actually learning a lot, on the fly, about their system of government and how it functions. 

I’ll go even further and say that the media did a good job, much better than we did during the election itself. There was not a day this week that I did not read something fresh and interesting and educational in the Citizen, the Post, the Star, the Globe, and right here at Blog Central. I certainly didn’t like what was going on politically, but for all the sturm and drang, at no point did I feel we were in a constitutional crisis, or that Canada was going to hell in a handbasket, as my mother likes to say.  

Sure, it might have gone otherwise. The GG might have refused Harper’s request for prorogation, he might have resigned, she might have asked the coalition to take over, Alberta might right now be on the brink of separating. Or maybe we’d be in the middle of an election.  Or maybe we’d just be waiting for Monday’s vote. But the world unfolded as it did, validating once again Wells’  First Rule: Canadian politics tends toward the least exciting possible outcome. I prefer to believe that our system of government has something to do with that. 

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Obviously this is not settled, only delayed. And if you want a sense of how hairy things could get in January, I encourage you all to check out Glen McGregor’s story on the front page of tomorrow’s Ottawa Citizen.

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  • Jack Mitchell

    I’m sick of these comment boards and am retiring from my lucrative commenter position to spend more time with my family.

    What this week has demonstrated to me is that 90% of the people who follow Canadian politics do so because they have a serious personality disorder, like Leafs fans. Few people indeed are concerned with the country itself; most are just cheering for their team. It’s pointless to argue with people whose opinions would change on a dime if the Great Leader so willed it.

    Politics is a waste of time, folks. My patriotism no longer includes it.

  • archangel

    Jack,

    Please don’t leave. Your insight is valuable. I know it’s frustrating to endure a barrage of propaganda posing as opinion (on all sides of the issues) in the comments section, yet losing one of the rare voices of reason and moderation that you represent would be tragic.

  • Sisyphus

    It’s not an easy addiction to deal with, Jack. I’ve tried several times to go cold turkey. But the existence of a number of rational people, like yourself, keeps drawing me back.

    I’ve found I can best manage the nonsense by scrolling rapidly past the names that I recognize for their idiocy. Granted they can occasionally change their names. But they can’t change their style.

    I hope that your leaving is really a prorogation and that you will return from time to time. Don’t let the b–t–ds beat you down.

  • David

    The conservatives won a confidence vote. This means they have the right to govern–including things like advising the GG on things like prorogation–until they lose a vote on a substantive matter.

    Like a fiscal update?

    Alternatively, if the FU was not a substantive matter, why did the Vulcan Chessmaster turn turtle and prorogue?

  • David

    “f*** this country.”

    Might I suggest that for a slogan for the coalition. At least it would honestly reflect their views of Canadians, apparently.

    Actually, that is (without the bowdlerism) pretty much how I would have interpreted the statement, “Canada is a Northern European welfare state in the worst sense of the term.”

  • Brad Sallows

    Current polls are nice, like a sunny Wednesday morning, and about as useful if your company picnic is on Saturday.

    The next poll that matters will be the budget vote. And by then, the popular polls will change.

  • Stephen B

    McGregor seems to suggest that the Conservatives would defy the Governor General on the basis of some lawyer’s opinion. I don’t know how seriously to take this, as something Harper would actually do.

  • archangel

    David,

    You nailed it. Now for a bowdlerism for Stepen C********R Harper.

  • Stephen B

    Jack Mitchell’s mention of Leafs fans is appropriate, but you could broaden the comparison to sports fans in general. I get the impression that many who comment on politics in here do so in the same spirit they might comment on sports — exulting in their team’s victories, taunting their opponents, lashing out when their favourites lose. For such folks the actual matters of policy and process at issue are practically irrelevant.

  • archangel

    Stephen B,

    “McGregor seems to suggest that the Conservatives would defy the Governor General on the basis of some lawyer’s opinion. I don’t know how seriously to take this, as something Harper would actually do.

    Not seriously at all, coming from Gerald Chipeur. He may even be a creationist.

  • http://carnewsandviews.com jwl

    Andrew Potter

    I was just re-reading this post and Two Concepts of Legitimacy and it made me wonder if people are starting to turn against elite accommodation that has been popular here for decades.

    The polls are showing that people of different political beliefs are tired of pols dividing up the spoils of power in backroom deals while the rest us can go hang. The argument that what the Coalition is trying to do is technically legal is not carrying much weight with the electorate this time and that’s a change I am over the moon with.

  • archangel

    Here is part of a story in the Sunday Hindustan Times (yes, it’s Sunday there). Speaks to the danger of disinformation. At risk of seeming an alarmist, I have a real concern — if this “constitutional crisis” stuff doesn’t cool down, some zealot out there will try to foment a deepening of the ill feeling that is already too high for comfort:

    Nuclear-armed Pakistan was put on ‘high alert’ last weekend and was eyeing India for possible signs of military aggression, after a threatening call made to President Asif Ali Zardari by someone from Delhi posing as Indian External Affairs Minister Pranab Mukherjee.

    Whether it was mere mischief or a sinister move by someone in the external affairs ministry, or if the call came from within Pakistan, remains unclear. But to some world leaders, the probability of an accidental war appeared high.

  • Jack Mitchell

    Well, for those following my own Oprahesque personal battle to keep the faith, an update.

    Shortly after penning my resignation letter (above), I loaded up the ol’ iPod with the most depressing music I could find (“Everybody Knows,” “Paint It Black,” etc.) and headed off to the Tim Horton’s (where else?) at University and Dundas in Toronto. I had just finished my second bacon breakfast sandwich, washed down with the tears of disillusionment, when who should I see walking east on Dundas but a group of people in yellow scarves and with a couple big-ass yellow flags. “Aha!” thinks I, “the Finnish Liberals are out in force today.” So I scampered forth and asked them were they were going: turns out they were United Steelworkers going to a rally. “Which rally?” To support the coalition, they say.

    So, carrying my heavy book-laden briefcase, I joined them on their way to nearby Nathan Phillips Square (in front of City Hall), where lo & behold there was a pro-Coalition rally going on. I grabbed a “62% Coalition” sign (the other freebie choice was “Coalition Yes/Oui”) and a flag and hung around while the samba drummers toodled around and the crowd began imperceptibly to grow. It was a mixed bunch, with a few lefties (Socialist Worker signs demanding that US deserters be allowed to stay), a certain union presence (CAW and USW mainly), a number of environmentalists; but the overwhelming majority were just ordinary folks, many obviously not used to political rallies (including me!). It was extremely cold — cold even by Winnipeg standards — with a sharp wind that blows like a jet engine around the funnel-shaped City Hall. I saw Olivia Chow chatting with a CityTV camera crew, and was amazed not to see Margaret Atwood anywhere.

    Soon we were all quite squished together and the Square was full — and it’s a large square. I think there were at least 5000 people there, maybe 7000; but I’m not good at guessing these things. If you’d been a middle-sized rock band you’d have been happy with the crowd. Mary Walsh warmed up the crowd, quite ably, with the natural oratory of the Rock. Then MP’s began arriving on-stage. It was hard to see what with the many large flags and signs (the best one quoted Plato: “This and no other is the root from which a tyrant springs; when he first appears he is a protector” in nice red & white; another had Harper as “the Grinch who Stole Parliament”). We need to educate the public about how to spell “prorogue,” especially the gerund form.

    Dion is introduced. We do our best to go nuts. He gives usual leaden speech, which we try to cheer. (During the French part I got off a good “Vive la coalition!” which was much appreciated around me.) Of course it was another demonstration of how incredibly strange it is that someone with virtually no political skills could be leader of a major political party. But when in Rome etc. Next was Layton, whose speech was about 35 times better than Dion’s and who really managed to get the crowd stirred up. A certain reliance on talking points, however, as the climax of the speech, which is really not adequate oratorically; somebody should hire me. Anyway, we all chanted “Shame! shame!” a certain amount and cheered at every optimism. It was really freakin’ cold, for the record. I’m not totally objective, but it seemed to me that the things that the crowd cared most about were the attack on the right to strike, the equal-work thing, and (most of all) the “locking the doors on Parliament,” which Layton rather deftly called “locking 300 workers out.” I was delighted to see people exchanging handshakes and smiles in the common cause of supporting parliamentary democracy.

    Overall, I was impressed they could muster 5000 people in weather like today’s, and they seemed well-organised (buttons, signs, stage, bands, MP’s). I was going to go check out the pro-Harper rally that was happening somewhere else at the same time, but it was frankly too friggin’ cold out, did I mention that? I’m not totally happy with the “line” they’re taking, since I’m not sure their financial policy makes much sense, and I actually object to being part of a “62% majority” — since this is not about the goddamn polls or election vote percentages but about the supremacy of Parliament. At least as far as this patriot is concerned. But it definitely put me back in a hopeful mood, about the country if not about the Coalition per se. I agree with jwl that it’s nice that people are actually paying attention to our system of government, even if half of them are rallying against democracy and in favour of prime-ministerial fiat. Of all Wells’ Rules, the one that depresses me the most is #1, and at this point (from a patriotic angle) I’m in favour of things happening; politically, this country has the circulation of an overweight 60-year-old couch-potato smoker, and it’s time it started jogging, even at the risk of heart attack.

    So, I’d like to recant my disavowal above. Thanks to those who said that mine is a sane voice. I have a feeling that Conbots are making notes on my partisanship as they read this, but actually I’m not partisan, I just want the country to be a good country with pride in its history and confidence in its future. Hokey as that sounds, I know.

  • http://carnewsandviews.com jwl

    Jack M

    Glad you had a change of heart. Don’t agree with much you write, and vice versa I am sure, but I was hoping you wouldn’t pack it all in. Your crisis today reminds me of Simpson’s episode Mr Lisa Goes To Washington when Lisa loses all faith in democracy but, at the end, has it restored.

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    “some zealot out there will try to foment a deepening of the ill feeling that is already too high for comfort:”

    archangel

    Scott Reid, a significant figure in Lib politics, wrote about Harper:

    “First things first: take him out.” and “Their imperative could not be more clear: kill him. Kill him dead. Do not, whatever you do, provide him with an opportunity to extend his hold on power.” Globe And Mail, Nov 29 ’08

    Does that qualify? I know there will be lots of crazy things written by conservative partisans as well but I don’t think they compare to senior Libs writing death threats in the Globe.

  • Jack Mitchell

    Thanks, jwl. I think we don’t see eye-to-eye on much, but I know you’re sincere, and at this point that’s more than enough for me.

    Re: Reid, I think it’s just a metaphor; and rather appropriate given the whole “If you strike at a Prince” thing.

  • Sisyphus

    Thanks for the report, Jack.

    The only thing I’m confused about is that initial reports indicated that all the ” ordinary folk ” were at the minority government rally. I guess some them couldn’t figure out what minority means, eh. Wonder how that happens ?

  • Jack Mitchell

    Sisyphus — Yeah, plenty of ordinary folk at my pro-coalition rally. Of all the Harperite talking points, that one is the most absurd. Reminds me of Palin’s line about “It’s great to be here in the real America!” — i.e. somewhere where they liked her. But apparently being fed your talking points from Tory Central isn’t “top-down” at all, no sir.

    It’s classic Caesarism, really. You get a renegade aristocrat (or, in our case, a career lobbyist and party operative) and declare him the salt of the earth; so that when he speaks to you from his mahogany-panelled Centre Block office, complete with makeup, Kleeg lights, and teleprompter, it’s “the voice of the people.” I don’t, personally, think that “the people” exist — there are just people of various stripes; but those who self-identify as “ordinary folks” always want to treat their politicians like royalty. You hear a few Tory voices saying that Harper screwed up, but whereas nobody, AFAIK, on the Liberal side has said anything positive about Dion himself in the last 7 weeks, the great majority of Harperites think of him as Moses. And in the next breath they have the gall to talk about democracy.

    It’s the influence of American media, I’m convinced. In the US the President has all the sacred status of a King, a Pontifex Maximus. They like to say they rejected royalism in 1776, but actually it’s we Westminster-types who rejected it, by separating the executive from the Crown. I find the cult of Harper genuinely frightening and profoundly unCanadian. You can like the man, you can like his policies, but enough with the deification of someone who is, objectively, the most ruthless politician since Mackenzie King.

  • madeyoulook

    So, Jack, welcome back from your “walk in the snow.”

    :)

  • a real Canadian

    Well Jack,

    I do think that Cretien would not only give him a run for his money, I think that in a dark alley Harper would emerge sans jewels.

    That said Cretien is gone and Harper is the best chance for Canada right now.

  • Geiseric the Lame

    “What’s with all the religion in the anti-coalition movement?”

    With the law of the land against them they are reduced to moralizing.

  • Geiseric the Lame

    “In fact it is not at all the mingling of church and state.”

    But of course it is and contrary to what McVety et al would have us believe separation is NOT a one-way street. I was astounded by that bookmark the Conservatives came out with a while back that rewrote Corinithians, but not surprised.

  • Geiseric the Lame

    excuse-moi

    Timothy. It was 1 Tim 2:2 they munched. no small accident.

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