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I'm not saying the coalition is dead…

by Paul Wells on Saturday, December 13, 2008 8:51am - 134 Comments

I’m just saying it’s not exactly tap-dancing right now.

Incidentally, perhaps we should define our terms. Are people who argue that the coalition isn’t dead saying that a Liberal will serve as Canada’s prime minister before the next general election, with a cabinet that includes New Democrats? Or are they saying that the coalition will continue to exist as a threat, to be delivered solemnly at scrum microphones in an ever-feebler attempt to get the (Conservative) Prime Minister to back off selected initiatives, without having to go through an actual election?

In the latter case, “the coalition” would indeed survive, as a kind of druther, a preference for a future that never actually arrives because its advocates dare not try to hasten its coming. Kind of like Social Credit. Or sovereignty-association. And I’m certainly willing to concede that the idea of a Liberal-led coalition government before the next general election is as hale and hearty as Social Credit.

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  • Sisyphus

    It’s very clear that we should be focused on political subsidies while Canada is registering as bottom feeders in international surveys on child care access and climate change activity.

  • Jarrid

    “I don’t know how the Conservatives are to going to function without Dion. They’ve been simply obsessed with him for years now.”

    I miss him already.

  • http://coyne kc

    Sisyphus
    Couldn’t agree more. harper’s got us all rooting around in the ditch. I suppose it’s where he likes to be. I wouldn’t mind iggie running on that: Harper fiddles whlie rome burns.

  • Ti-Guy

    I miss him already.

    I’m sure they’re more than enough kids you can give wedgies to during recess.

  • Greg

    The coalition is just pining for the fjords. Hey Ti guy, when are the liberals going to stop obsessing about Mike Harris and Brian Mulroney. I have an uncle who only votes liberal because of Dief.

  • Ti-Guy

    when are the liberals going to stop obsessing about Mike Harris and Brian Mulroney.

    When they’re finally in prison. Why do you ask?

    I don’t obsess about them. The media does.

  • Two Yen

    I believe it is a strategic error for Ignatieff no to repudiate the Coalition.

    One of the principal reasons that Dion failed so badly was that he moved the Liberals too far leftward. Instead of correcting this problem, Iggy has now clearly linked himself to the left wing of the party. This will come back to haunt him in the next election.

    Moreover, he had no business signing off on a letter to the GG that spoke of “Canada and Quebec”. This is irresponsible for a federal leader. Canada includes Quebec and any serious contender to be the Prime Minister must understand this principle.

  • Steve Wart

    I’m disappointed that Jean is banned too, but it’s not a freedom of speech issue. As much as Ti-Guy would like to imagine that there’s a collective responsibility for the media, Macleans is paying for the hosting service, their terms of use are available for everyone to read, and if I read Paul’s post correctly, it’s a temporary suspension until Monday.

    Hopefully he will be back. Some of his posts were insightful, but the volume and personal attacks were a bit hard to take at times. I’ve got a thick skin, but sometimes you want to let other people get a word in edgewise. It can be intimidating if one person is continually dominating the conversation.

  • http://macleansfordummies.wordpress.com/2008/12/14/moderated-threads/ Maclean’s for Dummies

    Jean Proulx: Salut!

  • http://canadianmalcontent.net/ Blair

    I don’t think anybody on the left or the centre-left will mistake Ignatieff as being left-leaning, Two Yen. I also doubt that anybody in the centre or on the centre-right would make that mistake.

    Sticking with the coalition…and remember that Stephen Harper, who nobody ever accused of being left-leaning, tried for a similar deal with the NDP and the Bloc…gives Ignatieff some options though. He can credibly threaten to bring down the government. He can, if he provides the evidence, credibly claim to have brought not just the Liberals, but the entire coalition to the right.

    The claim that the coalition is excessively left-leaning is already untrue though, and has been since its inception. The NDP backed off rolling back corporate tax cuts. The Liberals gave up the Green Shift. The Bloc gave up separatist policies. It’s the kind of compromise that mature politicians make in a minority government.

    Ignatieff, a right-leaning Liberal, has said that if asked by the GG he would honour the existing terms of the coalition. I suggest that reading those terms would indicate a pretty centrist document.

    I think Ignatieff’s best bet is to keep on his present track, but make a point of explaining the coalition to the Canadian public. He could even encourage them to read it for themselves. Once one learns the truth, the Conservative spin looks a lot like hysterical McCarthyism, after all.

  • Steve Wart

    Blair good point. I fully expect him to announce a press conference with Layton and Duceppe. I’m sure the only reason we haven’t heard much from them is because of their busy holiday schedule.

  • http://wells kc

    It’s fascinating how this is being spun in ROC and Quebec. We know how the Conservatives have painted us a picture of the libs/ndp jumping into bed with the separitists [ why always the sexual allusion?] Apparently in Quebec it’s the bloc in bed with the feds. I guess the old saying: politics makes for strange bd fellows also depends , in this case, which of the two solitudes apply.

  • http://wells kc

    Re: Iggie, i recommend Salutin’s piece in fridays globe – batman and Robin. it’s an interesting piece re: Iggie and rae, and funny.

  • Jack Mitchell

    I agree with whyshouldIsellyourwheat’s comment, half way up. Constitutionally, the threat of a takeover without an election has a half-life — say, oh, end of February? Or whatever the GG decides. But politically its half-life is even shorter. Not sure it could outlast the budget — how could Liberals, after passing the SFT and getting the Tories to back down on the FUFU and passing the January budget — how could they then turn around and say “We think this Government is fundamentally off the rails”? If it looks, to some, like a putsch now, it would look beyond cynical in late February or March. So — assuming Harper caves in the budget, gets it approved, starts governing meekly — how does Iggy play it then? Keep hammering home the point about “Harper isn’t doing enough” as cataclysm spreads (and spread it will), or wait for Harper to fumble the ball? My guess is, the former. Rightly or wrongly (often wrongly), Canadians are in the habit of blaming government for bad stuff; Iggy would be a fool not to build a case against Harper on that basis. He’s off to a good start.

  • Rather Surprised Conservative Hack

    Liberal led coalition as cargo cult. I like what you have done here, sir, and heartily agree.

    I see the Star – and every other post coalition poll – show the Tories winning not just a majority, but a big majority. Three cheers for the middle class!

  • archangel

    Jack Mitchell,

    Excerpt from a girl scout song (adapted):

    Then down came the Good Fairy, and she said:
    Little Bunny FUFU,
    I don’t wanna see you
    Scooping up the field mice,
    and bopping them on the head.

    POOF! You’re a goon!

    And the moral of the story is:
    Hare today, goon tomorrow!

  • http://canadianmalcontent.net/ Blair

    That’s pretty easy, Jack Mitchell. Both Harper and Flaherty have been, shall we say, less than honest about the economy already. There’s a real danger that Harper will book money, then not spend it; announce old money as if it’s new; funnel spending to his corporate buddies; or just generally start acting like a twit again. That keeps the coalition relevant.

    The prorogation arguably extends the period when the opposition could take over, since Harper never really governed after the election and it was clear that House had litle or no confidence in him. There’s also the number of elections we’ve had recently and the matter of the signed agreement between the coalition partners and the Bloc offering at least 18 months of stable government…something Harper cannot offer.

    I’m not at all convinced that Harper and his party can keep their baser instincts in check until the budget passes either. The attacks on Ignatieff have already begun and continue even though he warned that it would be a bad idea to attack the coalition leader while claiming to want cooperation. Not many who pay attention have missed the campaigns on the call-in shows and the internet, and then there’s that fundraising letter. It doesn’t appear like Harper is bargaining in good faith at all, and I think Ignatieff knows that.

  • archangel

    Cargo cults only ever occur in primitive tribal societies, like, oh, say Alberta for example. snark

  • Steve Wart

    Actually you see cargo cult behaviour a lot in large corporations. If anyone things we are much more advanced than primitive societies, read Lord of the Flies or Hansard

  • Ted

    Looks like Paul has prorouged Jean Proulx. I wonder who’s next?

  • madeyoulook

    Pinin’ for the fjords, Greg?

    ‘E’s kicked the bucket, ‘e’s shuffled off ‘is mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the bleedin’ choir invisibile!!

    THIS IS AN EX-COALITION!!

  • Simon Stephenson

    Harper’s plan is to cut every socail program none to canadians and govern with a capitalist point of view. If we as a country do not support the lower woking class and cater to the rich, we will make our economy go south. Mr. Haper has literaly made a check mate move, with his “bail out the corporations” idiotic budget. Now he has taken a two month time out to stop governing in this rough econmic time, right when we need a government most. He has also said that the forming of a coalition between the Bloc, Liberal and NDP is against Canadian Democracy….well Mr. Harper, CANADA VOTED AGAINST your nuthead, ignorant CONSERVATIVES, when you brake it down between the left wing. One more thing Mr. Harper and all nut heads who support your party: THE BLOC is a SOUGHVERNIST PARTY NOT a seperatist party. We need a government which gives the voice to english and french Canada, because english and french are who made Canada

  • Steve Wart

    The majority of the people in Toronto and Vancouver are not English or French

  • Jarrid

    “THE BLOC is a SOUGHVERNIST PARTY NOT a seperatist party. ”

    Simon, it’s late, it’s Saturday night, I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you’ve been drinking. If I’m wrong, all I can say is that your soft-headedness has made you easy prey for the BQ/PQ propaganda machine.

  • Simon Stephenson

    Steve:

    I am no saying anyowhere is a majority of english or french. I believe very much in multiculturalism. What I am arguing against the fact that our tories don’t want a government shared with a quebec souvernist party. I will however reinstate my point: This Coalition will well represent Canada.

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