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Canada: a failing state — the listeriosis inquiry

by Paul Wells on Sunday, January 4, 2009 11:31pm - 124 Comments

a failing state — the listeriosis inquiry

Today we launch an occasional series whose thesis is that, while Steve and Guy play chess over at Langevin, Canada has no coherent government. Essentially we are arguing that Canada has become a more genteel Somalia.

We define “coherent” as the action of a government that (a) says stuff; and then (b) does stuff that resembles what it said. Note that, by this definition, a government that (a) promised less state action; and then (b) delivered less state action would qualify as coherent. So a coherent conservative government would (to belabour my point) absolutely qualify as a coherent government. What doesn’t qualify as a coherent government, for instance, is one that (a) releases a fiscal update on Thursday and then (b) abandons every part of it by Saturday. Or one that (a) calls for deficits in Winnipeg and Lima before (b) announcing in the fiscal update that there will be no deficits, but then (c) retracts the fiscal update but (d) still insists for a few days that there needn’t be a deficit before finally (e) announcing that there will probably be deficits and then (f) appoints a panel of economic advisors whose previous pro bono advice had been (g) previously ignored by the selfsame government but, who knows, maybe (h)….

Anyway. Today’s exhibit comes via Colleague ITQ who has read this CP story which points out that the government (a) promised, in September, an inquiry into the listeriosis outbreak that killed 20 people; (b) set a seven-month deadline, until March, for the inquiry to report; (c) actually, let’s pause to count. Early September to mid-March. One, two, three, four, five, six-ish months. Six and a half, not quite seven months. Got it? Great. Onwards: (d) has not, as of today, four months later and with two and a half months left before the deadline, appointed anyone to lead the inquiry.

Got it? Note that the government doesn’t need a functioning Parliament (because we don’t have one; see “failing state,” above) to appoint an inquiry. All it needs is a minister — say, noted phone prankster Gerry Ritz — with a Rolodex, an envelope and a postage stamp to invite some retired food inspector to pay his wisdom forward by heading up the inquiry. In fact, here I exaggerate for effect because Ritz doesn’t even need a stamp. As a member of Parliament, he could write to the RFI (retired food inspector) without postage.

So really, it’s not hard for this government to do what it promised it would do. Or rather, it would not be hard if the current government, the one run by Prime Minister Stephen Harper, could find its own ass with a map and a flashlight. (Note to the anonymous legions who are itching to get some action on the comment board below this post: If you don’t think an inquiry is necessary, your opinion doesn’t matter because the Government of Canada disagreed with you and announced that it would hold an inquiry. Now we will all see who’s not bright enough to factor that inconvenient detail into their comments. This will be fun.)

So. Let us review the options.

  • Coherent government: (a) announce an inquiry; (b) hold the inquiry.
  • Alternative, conservative coherent government: (a) explain why no inquiry is necessary; (b) do not hold an inquiry.
  • Incoherent government — failing-state government: (a) announce an inquiry; (b) attempt to ban public-sector strikes while appointing talk-show hosts to the Senate.

See the difference?

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  • Kaplan

    Is Kody using a typewriter to enter his thoughts here?

    And if so, how?

  • Bill Simpson

    I always thought that the purpose of an “inquiry”. “commission” or whatever was to pretend to do something while simply playing for time. The consensus around the listeriosis outbreak was that it was not the fault of bad procedures or poor or lax inspection, but that there were gaps in the cleaning methods used by Maple Leafs that have been corrected. This is much like the problems experienced in the prepared salad business as well.

    Anyway, since there is now no pressing reason to have an inquiry (except to quiet public nervousness or quite the media), then not having one is not a bad idea.

    Of course, they could announce that they are not going to have an inquiry, but that would just get everyone excited again, so better to let it quietly go away on its own.

    Except now you have made a story out of this, accusing them of being “incoherent”.

    I don’t see the problem in what they have done (or not done). This seems all a bit over-heated.

    • Phoebus

      Tell that to the 20 families who lost loved-ones

      • Bill Simpson

        Phebus – not sure how my thinking that PW’s reaction is a bit over-heated is somehow, what, insensitive to the victims of the Listeriosis outbreak?

        • Phoebus

          “Anyway, since there is now no pressing reason to have an inquiry (except to quiet public nervousness or quite the media), then not having one is not a bad idea.”

          Do you not believe that the families of those who died deserve to know the truth?

          • sf

            The truth is the company failed to clean the machines adequately.

          • T. Thwim

            and that the government inspectors were not present to rectify that due to the changes required by the conservative government in the processes of the CFIA

  • Phoebus

    Come on folks, this is Stephen Harper, he won’t name the Lead Investigator until the actual findings have been written for them: a need for less government intervention and more self-regualtion by industry.

  • Harvey

    This is definitely a job for Peter Kent. Remember, you heard it hear first.

  • scissorpaws

    I think what they’re afraid of is a Walkerton effect, when they open the can of worms and discover actual worms. Something about making sausage, but would that analogy be unmaking of sausage? Wormy sausage would even be apt, and then I could extend this to compare passing legislation as making sausage and doubling back to mention tainted legislation but that’s a real stretch and this is only Monday.

    Anyway, here I go again. I had another thought that included in this enquiry, or investigation, or maybe investiquiry, that since we’ll be spending the money anyway, might as well look into how many of the victims of this outbreak were on Losec or other stomach acid suppressing medications. Reducing stomach acid increases the likelihood of bacteria surviving to make you sick, and many people are on Losec or Prevasid or even Zantac I suppose. Because there had to be many people who ate the meats who didn’t get sick. Fascinating stuff here relates to the protective effects of being infected with the ulcer bug, H. Pylori, and how in the future we may actually infect infants with the bug precisely because it protects against diseases such as listeria. Another lucrative research grant if somebody wants to write up the application papers, I’m sure.

    And here I go again. I suspect an enquiry might wind up concluding that what we need in all these plants is to irradiate meat. Kill everything and eliminate the nasty problem of what to do with nuclear waste in a single fell swoop.

    I know most of that’s off topic, but it’s been bugging me.

  • http://deleted Sandi

    So, a journalist not being curious and following up on an incident that killed 20 people isn’t newsworthy?

    Oh, right – Harper at hockey game photo-ops is truly important stuff.

    I saw an American economist say that Conservatism is socialism for the rich and capitalism for the poor – hmmm…..I think he’s right.

  • oompus boompus

    If it makes you feel any better, ALL states fail sooner or later. They fail because they are built on the paradoxical idea that voluntary and peaceful interchanges between free people have only limited usefulness, and that conflicts between them can only be solved by some kind of (mythical) benevolent, disinterested and authoritarian third party. The fact that the powers delegated to this third party are (a) taken involuntarily (within their claimed geographical boundaries), and (b) absolute, naturally leads to abuse of privilege, the corrosion of society, and eventual collapse.

    Regarding the promised inquiry, were you seriously hoping that a lengthy and expensive federal confabulation of politicians and lawyers, followed by the generation of even thicker books of federal food laws and an even vaster and more powerful bureaucracy, would actually lead to the more conscientious cleaning of baloney machines in meat packing plants? I suppose it might, but at what cost? The state will not determine the cost versus benefit because state actors are selfish individuals (the same as non-state actors) and they will always tend to push down the path which leads to their own benefit. Having no competition within their jurisdiction (all political parties being first and foremost dedicated to the preservation and expansion of the state and therefore not ideological competitors), this path is a very wide one.

    • Jack Mitchell

      In other words, vote Harper and Jesus will save you.

      • Scott M.

        I thought it was the other way around.

        • Jack Mitchell

          Save Harper and Jesus will vote for you? Catchy.

    • Derek Pearce

      No, we were just seriously wondering why no investigation has begun when the government said there’d be one. I will fully admit, as a regular ole distracted member of the public I’d forgot Harper even promised one and only once Kady O’M brought it up did I think “oh yeah, whatever happened with that?” Did Kady ask this question on her blog because it was the end of a 2 week holiday (with a suspended Parliment no less) and the news flow was slow? Possibly, but I don’t care. It’s still a legit question to ask.

      Also, arguing whether you believe that all societies will eventually fail at some point (or evolve or devolve or whatever) ignores the fact that us mere mortals are now curious to know what’s happening regarding this file at present.

      • Al Heck Brakes

        Societies don’t fail. States fail. It’s what they do.

        • Jack Mitchell

          Our state has lasted for nearly a thousand years, Al, and 319 years with its current constitution. Long enough for ya?

          • Al Heck Brakes

            That’s stretching it. Your state goes only as far back as 1867. The English/British state has failed several times in coups, civil wars and one interregnum.

            But you have a point – some states fail more slowly than others. These are the states which Bastiat named when he listed the places where people’s freedoms are not “ruined and exterminated” – Switzerland, Holland, England, and the United States. Iceland is another example, although it may be close to being ruined through the magic of central banking. At the rate that their central banks are going, I wouldn’t give much for the future chances of USA or Britain either. Canada too seems determined to bankrupt itself in the name of political expediency.

            The key thing is that the states which do the least, last the longest. When a state starts doing everything (i.e. controlling, taxing, regulating, subsidizing, owning and educating everything in sight), the end is near.

          • Jack Mitchell

            Not stretching it at all, there was a seamless transition from British rule to home rule in 1867, and our constitution (though it has since evolved separately) is essentially what it’s been since the Glorious Revolution. And well before that, in name.

            You really have no idea what you’re talking about, so I’ll spare you the history lesson you never had.

          • madeyoulook

            Hé Jacques! “Our state” was Nouvelle-France until some French-speaking redcoats managed to trick and overpower our sentries at Anse-au-Foulon, offering General Montcalm a most unpleasant bon-matin from Abraham’s farm. Late dix-huitième siècle. A thousand years, mon oeil…

  • http://carbuncleredux.blogspot.com Occam’s Carbuncle

    Somalia? Good Lord. Christmas vacation was evidently not quite long enough. Take a few more days. Get some sleep.

    • Jack Mitchell

      Seriously. We’re more like Morocco, or Belorus on a good day. Wells is just trying to boost our profile, since Somailia = pirates = box-office bonanza. Well, that $hit won’t fly here, Wells.

  • Ti-Guy

    Am I the only one who thought “genteel Somalia” was brilliant satire?

    Mr. Wells, your efforts are wasted on us.

    • William

      Like any good performer Wells gives `em what they wants. He knows most of the folks here get all lathered up even if you give them a not so subtle and outrageous comparison to a small African country.
      Now, the anti-Harper group may think we have some ” brilliant satire ” but it`s just Wells pulling those strings to keep those puppets dancing.

      • http://macleans.ca kc

        You preferred Belgium?

      • Ti-Guy

        Parlez-vous anglais?

  • Lord Bob

    Mr. Wells,

    If I don’t think that we need an inquiry and also don’t think that we need a government, do I get any points?

    • Jack Mitchell

      The prize is a first-class ticket to Somalia! You’ll love it!

      • Lord Bob

        Not if it’s Air Canada I won’t!

  • sf

    Normally you don’t see “failed state” and “listeriosis”in the same sentence.

    Usually it’s “failed state” and “cholera”. Or typhoid. Or bubonic plague.

  • T

    a

    • U

      b

  • nearlynormalized

    Are any of the products exported?

  • LindaL

    I do not see that the Listeria enquiry is a significant issue. Ultimately an investigation will likely just confirm what we already know. Noone has been more keen to determine the cause of this than Maple Leaf and they appear to have identified a cause. So — big deal. An investigation will happen at some point but is not ripe political fodder (except of Union types who think they may get an opportunity to lobby for more members and some in the Opposition.) So, if this is an issue — then what about the 400+ deaths from C. Difficile in Ontario? (something much more likely to be repeated!) Too bad, no interest in this . . . therefore, no enquiry.

    • kody

      “So, if this is an issue — then what about the 400+ deaths from C. Difficile in Ontario? (something much more likely to be repeated!)”

      Linda,

      we all know the reason for that,

      which is the same reason the progressive hornets, swarm me to protect the nest.

      A single outbreak of a food born illness, by a signle company (for the first time in the hostory of that company no less), no more justifies allegations of governmental scandal as does a single bus accident on a highway.

      People die. In sporadic cases they die in clusters (like the bus accident, or the isolated, single outbreak, most likely due to a single contaminated container). It is when busses start going off the road at the same location in unusual numbers, or when outbreaks start becoming some norm or pattern, rather than a single unusual event, do Canadians start to wonder if something “more” is involved. Otherwise, we Canadians accept that accidents happen, mistakes are made (and if due to negligence consequences can be determined in the courts).

      Most rational Canadians don’t view this as a scandal, any more than the number of other attempts to generate scandal by the now unhinged media.

      Paul’s post suggesting the fabric of our country has become undone is like sweet nectar to the partisan leftists that swarm and protect this hive.

      But it also a sad commentary on today’s out-of-touch “gotcha” leftist, elitist media, which cannot see a foot beyond its own partisan inclinations, which inclinations are like a lead barrier between the media and every day Canadians who have real every day needs.

      • Ti-Guy

        There is something seriously wrong with you, Kody.

        • Scott M.

          It was 3am… Perhaps he was having a bad night.

          • http://macleans.ca kc

            Kody’s at his very best after midnight.

      • T. Thwim

        Nice play at distracting Kody.
        Except the issue isn’t just that Maple Leaf Foods killed 20 people. The issue is that the reason they did so can be traced almost directly back to the new processes for food inspection that the Conservatives required be put in place through their general cost cutting measures.

        Had the old processes remained in place, the odds are extremely high that those 20 deaths would not have happened at all, as the contaminated food/machinery would have been identified and changed *before* the meat went out and public health officials had to start tracking it back.

        Incidentally, does anybody know if Maple Leaf Foods is going to repay the taxpayer for the public health expenses they engendered?

      • Progressive Hornet

        There is also supposed to be a regime of inspections to prevent this from happening at even one company, because in the free market, sometimes companies (who have no interest in killing their customers) fail.

        The government of New Brunswick instituted new regulations for the use of large passenger vans by schools, and that was after only 1 isolated accident Kody.

        Gotcha!

        And by the way, labelling all those who exercise their right to ask questions of their government as elitist partisans is far more illustrative of you as a partisan post-er than of those you hysterically attack.

    • Chuck vs Macleans

      Linda

      Great post, but C. Difficile falls under the ontario liberal government, so it is alright.

  • William

    Linda and Kody:

    Excellent analysis—your thoughts reflect those of the sensible citizen—never believe that the rantings of most of the media and those on this site represent the opinions of the rational Canadian.
    By the way, don`t give up on Paul Wells—he`s mischievous–he writes something outrageous and then sits back and observes the feeding frenzy.

    • http://macleans.ca kc

      well that makes 3 rational Canadians.

    • Brad

      I’m sorry, but my friends who are sensible citizens demand a retraction.

      Leaving content aside, since that’s what kody does, none of my more sober and sensible associates use random commas, hit the enter key at random moments, or generally affect a random haiku-ish approach to their ramblings.

      Apologize.

      • William

        Brad (he who leaves content aside)

        I am sorry you feel fit to make fun of my Japanese heritage.
        I am sorry you suffer from Lib. Learning Disability (unable to absorb critical reasoning)
        I am sorry there are no public inquiries for Kady to hang out at.
        I am sorry about your friends.

        Please don`t apologize.

        • Jack Mitchell

          That’s a lot of sorrow, William.

  • An Albertan

    I think the above point about investigation vs inquiry above is a valid one. I also think that sometimes as circumstances unfold, we need to change tracks, and given that what the company has brought forward, and the fact that settlements have already been made, I fail to see what good a full public inquiry would do.

    I also believe, even with all his warts and shortcomings, Stephen Harper is better that the alternative choices we have to lead this country,

    • Scott M.

      Don’t you think that if the government has changed their mind about having an investigation they should at least announce it? Otherwise, it just looks like it “slipped their mind”, which really shouldn’t happen in an institution like the Government of Canada.

  • Northern PoV

    “I fail to see what good a full public inquiry would do. ”

    ya, if you equate “good” with the interests of the CPC.

    Order-in-council changes (ie the whim of the PMO) to the inspection process in March/April 2008 preceded this crisis. Many of us would like to know a little more about that, Mr. Albertan.

    Warts indeed!

  • http://chuckercanuck.blogspot.com chuckercanuck

    Hi Paul,

    I’m told Ally McBeal is a shoe in for attorney general.

  • Timster

    No you got it all wrong because you are with the press (part of the evil doer group). The commission is secret and you are not entitle to know anything about it. Welcome to government by The Steve Party. Having fun yet?

  • Western thought

    And this is different from the past 20 years how?

  • Dan

    These inquiries are only interesting to intelectual elties who live in ivory towers and to artsy types who spend their days and nights attending fru-fru galas.

    Us Joe Six Packs and hockey moms couldn’t care less if this inquiry happens or not. Stephen Harper is doing the right thing by focusing his efforts on ensuring the survival of his government.

    • Derek Pearce

      hmmmm, if you’re being tongue in cheek, good job, I can’t tell !

      If you’re serious, all I can say is…. “and who gives a damn about the survival of individual citizens…”

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