UPDATED: Official Bill Casey Open Thread

by kadyomalley on Tuesday, February 3, 2009 12:50pm - 158 Comments

UPDATE: CBC.ca Nova Scotia has a story up.

EVEN UPDATEDER: … and so does Canadian Press.

MORE UPDATE-IER STILL:  Conservative blogger Stephen Taylor reveals that he, too, received a virtual “brown envelope”.

Halifax Chronicle Herald Ottawa bureau chief Steve Maher provides the most detailed account yet.

AND AGAIN THE UPDATES: Scroll down for the awesome poetizing of Jack Mitchell!

Y’all, I’m totally trying to catch up after missing this morning’s excitement, and I promise that I’ll update this post when I have a better idea of what’s going on, but here’s  a partial the full transcript of the point of order that Independent and Proud of It MP Bill Casey delivered a few moments ago in the House of Commons, at least:

Mr. Bill Casey (Cumberland—Colchester—Musquodoboit Valley, Ind.): Mr. Speaker, I rise on a question of privilege. I hope to be able to present a prima facie case that my privileges as a member of Parliament and even as a Canadian citizen have been breached.

I never, ever thought that I would stand in the House and have to defend myself against false accusations of theft and embezzlement—I can hardly say the word.

Last Thursday a member of the press, Hugo de Grandpré from La Presse called my office and asked if there was any update on the charges against me on the accusation of embezzlement.

I knew nothing about this on Thursday. I called him back to find out what it was, and he said that he was in possession of a Royal Canadian Mounted Police briefing note to the commissioner that says that the Conservative Party of Canada has asked the RCMP to conduct an investigation against me and it is entitled “a complaint of theft”. It says that certain Conservative members, whose names are whited out, attended the Bible Hill office to report the embezzlement of funds by a member of Parliament.

I just cannot tell you, Mr. Speaker, what this means to me. I have been here for 20 years. I am 63 years old. I have built my whole business career, my politics on honesty, credibility and my reputation. To have this happen is devastating.

I just did not even know how devastating it was until this morning when I had to call my two daughters to tell them I was going to get up in the House to defend myself against accusations of theft and embezzlement.

I hope I can get through this. It is outrageous. I want to present the issue. I have sent a copy of the RCMP report, and I would like to go through it.

First of all, it says, to the commissioner: “For your information only—” just the commissioner and everybody else, apparently.

The issue is, member of Parliament, complaint of a theft. On September 18 Conservative Party members who are unnamed—

They are there, but the names are whited out.

—contacted the RCMP, Cumberland County district attachment—

This is the county where I live, Cumberland County.

—requesting a return phone call. The next day, on September 19, 2008, an unnamed group of Conservatives attended the Bible Hill office of the RCMP to report the embezzlement of funds by a member of Parliament.

Then, a lot of this is blanked out, but the number $30,000 is in there. It says, something about “Conservative Party and with a $30 cheque”. A lot of it is whited out, so I do not know exactly what the charges are, what the accusations are.

It says: “The cheque was written in the name of–” blank, I do not know whether that is me or not, but it was not me.

“It was endorsed by the financial officer and director of the Conservative Party—”

Blank. There is more here, but I will not bother to read it because it does not make sense as much of it is blanked out.

The accusations of embezzlement and theft are not blanked out, but a lot of the other information and the names of the Conservatives who made the accusations are blanked out. They are blanked out to protect their privacy. My riding is Cumberland—Colchester, and the two RCMP detachments they visited were in Cumberland and Colchester. Not only that, my name was included in the back of this. It is not blanked out.

The Conservatives or whoever did this whited out the names of the people who made the accusations, but they left my name in it. It is in the end, it is in the file name, and it may be an oversight. I do not want to make this worse than it is, it may be an oversight. There was no oversight when they blanked out the names of the Conservatives who made the accusations.

The current status is somebody was interviewed and a statement was obtained.

The statement provided did not articulate sufficient grounds or cause the merit of a commencement of an investigation.

That is what it says on one line. The next line says:

The investigation determined there was no financial gain by somebody.

It might be me or it might be a member of my riding association, I do not know. It puts a cloud over all of us, because they released the damaging information on this, the accusations, and the words “theft” and “embezzlement” but they have not released the rest of it.

Then it says: “The return of the money to the Conservative Party.”

I will just go on here a little bit further, it says: “The investigation could be reopened if circumstances warrant it. H Division, Criminal Operations will continue to monitor the situation.”

Now I do not know whether their criminal operations are monitoring me or what or who they are monitoring. I do not know what they are doing.

I did not know about this until last Thursday. I want to thank Hugo de Grandpré for the professional way he handled this. He did not put it out. He knows how devastating this is and he gave me this chance to put this case forward in the House of Commons. I am very grateful to be able to do that.

We could pick apart this thing and make it look really bad. There are so many things wrong with this. The only reason that I have any indication of what this issue is about is the $30,000 number.

In May 2007 the minority Conservative government was approaching a confidence vote on a budget.

My riding association suggested we open an account as required by Elections Canada and move $30,000 from the riding association to the campaign account, which is required by Elections Canada.

Subsequent to that I was expelled from the Conservative Party but I was never told I was not the official nominated candidate. Even though I was expelled from the caucus I was still a member of the party and I was still the officially nominated candidate.

As soon as we learned that I was not the candidate, the $30,000 went back. Not a penny was changed; not a penny was spent; not a penny was used in any way; $30,000 in and $30,000 back, exactly penny for penny. That, I assume, is what the Conservatives are trying to call embezzlement. They are accusing me of theft and embezzlement.

Every single person in the House had to do the same thing because Elections Canada says we must open a dedicated account for our campaign and fund it from there. That is all I did.

I only learned I was not the candidate when the Prime Minister went on national television right out here and said there will be a candidate in the riding of Cumberland–Colchester–Musquodoboit but it will not be the former member. That is how I learned I was not the candidate.

We immediately consulted Elections Canada and returned the $30,000, penny for penny. Not a penny was moved; not a penny was used. The party knew this because it now has, and it has had since October 19, 2007, all of the bank documents that show the money in and the money back.

This is total fabrication. It is an attempt to smear my reputation and destroy my character. After spending a whole lifetime trying to build a good reputation and a positive reputation I am so offended to have people knowingly make false accusations just so they can get it in an RCMP report.

This report is here forever. It is not going to go away. Now it has been made public to the media. Why?

I announced a month ago that I was going to leave politics and get a new career in the private sector. Now somebody, the RCMP or whoever, has produced a letter saying that I was under investigation for theft and embezzlement.

My last career was with Merrill Lynch, and I was really proud to do the job I did as an investment advisor. People trusted me. They gave me their money, whether it was $1,000 or $1 million. I managed it and they trusted me. I did a good job for them. Now what are they going to think?

This document which says that I am under investigation for theft and embezzlement has been released and there is nothing to it. It is worse than that. It is worse than nothing to it. It has been fabricated. Whoever released this document knows there is nothing to it. They had the documents to prove it, and they still went ahead with this 10 months later, after they received the documents.

I am outraged and I am sad for this institution. I have been here for 20 years. When I was expelled from the Conservative Party I was the longest serving member in that party. I am proud to be a member of Parliament. Great things happened in this room to help people and do great things, but this is not one of them.

I am sad to see the level of our parliamentary rapport and process and whatever go downhill so far that RCMP investigations are being used when accusations to defame members of Parliament are wrong. It does not matter if one is a member of Parliament or a regular person, it should never happen.

There are a whole lot of things about this. There are some big questions.

Everybody in my riding wonders why the Conservative Party did not accept local candidates to run for it in the last election. The party would not accept people who wanted to run. Instead, I assume the Prime Minister nominated or appointed a candidate. There was no nomination process.

A candidate was appointed but not from my riding. This person was from Ottawa and had never been to my riding as far as I know. He worked for the minister in charge of the RCMP. The first thing his election team did when he came down to my riding was engage the services of the RCMP to launch this cruel accusation against me. I do not know if there is any connection or not. I am not making any accusations, but it is a fact.

The man they appointed to run against me was a member of the staff of the minister in charge of the RCMP. I think that man’s representatives went to the RCMP and made these allegations. I cannot say that for sure, because the names are whited out. However, if it turns out that the names in this accusation are agents of an employee of the minister of the RCMP I think we all have to ask ourselves some questions.

When I was expelled from the party, I think 27 members of the executive came with me as an independent. There was not enough people to form an executive for the Conservative Party, so the national party took over the party. They had access to all these records and bank statements. They knew the cheque for $30,000 went out and the cheque for $30,000 came back and not a penny was changed. I had nothing to do with that. That was the riding association and the campaign team and they act independently of me. I had no say. My name is not on any of the cheques. I did not sign anything and I did not do anything.

I had nothing to do with it. I am so glad and lucky that my team followed the letter and spirit of the law with this, along with the Elections Canada regulations. I am strong because they did that. They did everything right. In fact, they even did more than that right. In my opinion, at the time they returned the $30,000, I thought they should have deducted the bank charges. They did not even do that. It was over $30,000 back and they accuse me of embezzlement and theft.

A whole lot of things need to be done on this. My job as a member of Parliament is completely compromised. As you know, we deal with people on their RRSPs, tax problems with the government, investment incomes and loans and programs for their businesses. That requires trust. They have put this cloud over my head that I want them to remove. They put a cloud over my head and have hurt my ability to do my job as a member of Parliament. They have hurt my credibility. Who is going to feel comfortable coming in to my office knowing that the Conservative Party of Canada, the governing party, has had the RCMP investigate me for theft and embezzlement?

My hon. colleague here says they are not going to buy that and I hope they do not. I have built a lifetime of credibility. I have taught my kids that credibility and honesty is everything. I have had a standard speech I have given them all my life and they know it. I know they have repeated it to others, about how important credibility is. I had to call them this morning and tell them that I have to defend myself against accusations of theft and embezzlement. It is unbelievable and really sad.

The timing of this. They had all these documents. On October 19, the money went back. It was done. They had all the documents, but they waited until the election started. The employee of the minister in charge of the RCMP came down and they launched this criminal accusation against me with two RCMP branches. Now that I am leaving Parliament, out comes this copy to the media of an RCMP investigation.

How is that going to help me going forward? Who in the investment business is going to say, yeah, sure, we would love to have you, after you get those things straightened out about the little thing about the theft and embezzlement. Think about it. Everybody in this room is as guilty of theft and embezzlement as I am. That is, we are not guilty at all. There is no reason for these accusations.

For the RCMP to leave this open by saying that there are not sufficient grounds to proceed again with the investigation is not enough. Not sufficient grounds insinuates that there are grounds. There are no grounds. I want the Conservative Party to say that these accusations should never have been made. That is what I want them to say. If they have an ounce of justice and fair play, they will do that and not hesitate, because there were no grounds for these accusations.

I want to make the main points as far as my point of privilege goes.

First of all I want to say that if my credibility is in question, I cannot do my job to the full extent that I am able to. Credibility is everything. Trust is everything, in my world it is anyway. I have lost that now until this is fixed.

I want to know who made the decision to white out the Conservative names on this but leave mine in. It may have been an oversight but it was done. The Conservative names are left out, mine is not. I think the government owes us an explanation on that.

Someone I talked to this morning suggested that to lay false accusations against me may be against the law. I am not a lawyer, so I do not know, but perhaps the crown should have this investigated or considered to see if anything wrong happened here. Certainly my reputation has been damaged. It is character assassination as far as I am concerned of the worst order. If anyone did wrong I would ask the crown to investigate that to see if there is anything wrong.

I was thinking about Danny Williams this morning. Danny Williams is often animated but he says he often uses the word “vindictive”. I think we should be listening to Danny Williams perhaps a little more because this is vindictiveness.

However it goes further than vindictiveness. This is malicious and it is vicious and it is terribly hurtful. I am so glad that La Presse gave this to me. I do not plan to run again and if I had left the House and then this came out everyone would say, “That is why he left. He was under investigation by the RCMP”. I did not even know it until Thursday but that is what would happen. I am so glad that I had this opportunity.

I said I was not going to run again but I am not leaving here until the Conservatives who made these accusations in this RCMP report, whoever they are, make it right.

Mr. Speaker, if you agree that I have prima facie case that my privileges were breached and my ability to do my job has been affected I am prepared to move the appropriate motion and I will leave that with you.

Macleans.ca poet laureate Jack Mitchell weighs in:

Casey in the Dock

The budget wasn’t gentle to the Maritimes that year;
Th’ Accord then lay in tatters: precious little thus to cheer;
“Atlantic Tories can’t accept it,” journalists did say:
But turns out they were cowards; only Casey voted Nay.

For Casey was a Member of our honest Parliament
The like of whom this glorious nation has but seldom kennt:
He never fobbed his riding off with speeches learned by rote,
And what’s more, when he gave his word, he backed it with his vote.

They chucked him from the caucus and behind him locked the door
They left his party card in little pieces on the floor
They said, “Get out! And nevermore disgrace the Tory brand
With talk of how MP’s can take an independent stand.”

He piled his stuff in boxes: pictures, letters, notes of thanks,
The bric-à-brac of twenty years of service in the ranks
And drove the dismal highway at the closing of the year:
Then Casey, even Casey, at the wheel could shed a tear.

He parked the car in Cumberland and walked to Musquodobit,
His heart was heavy as he passed a dwarf and dusky hobbit,
But just as Casey reached the crest and gazed upon the scene
His heart rejoiced and sobs of joy replaced his sometime spleen.

For all around the Valley, through the streets of every town,
His proud constituents had come to add to his renown:
The lawns, the poles, the chimneys all were decked with banners bright,
And each and every one of them said “Casey, you done right!”

They clustered round him, sang their songs, and lifted him on high,
The men looked on with envy and the women breathed a sigh;
But there among them, ‘mid the mirth, were some the Devil sired,
The Tory organisers who ‘gainst Casey now conspired.

They hated his staunch virtue, and they hated his new fame:
The hated him the more because the people praised his name.
And PMO had sent them out from Ottawa’s dark caves
To muddy Casey’s reputation — scoundrels, villains, knaves!

They donned their balaclavas and they clubbed some baby seals,
They fabricated accusations of dishonest deals
And with a silent cackle slipped them in the Mounties’ mail,
And scurried back to Ottawa to hit the campaign trail.

You know the rest, dear reader, how the carpetbagger came
And got his ass kicked back to where the Tories have no shame;
The people stood by Casey, rich and poor and young and old:
The Casey vote outclassed the Tory’s numbers by tenfold.

But now we wait to see if evil scheming in the dark,
The balaclava politics, the ethics of a shark,
Shall muddy yet the name of one would not hurt a mouse,
Of Casey, mighty Casey, pride and honour of the House.

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  • http://deleted Sandi

    Kady, I’m glad you set this out as I only caught a little bit of it and didn’t know what Casey was talking about.

    This smells bad and I hope the speaker does the right thing.

    I also hope that Mr. Casey does some interviews on this – really smells bad and strange the RCMP connection.

  • http://myblahg.com Robert McClelland

    Boo hoo, Bill. You lay down with dogs you get fleas.

    • Austin So

      “Spite” is not a virtue, Robert…

      I hope this defamation against Bill Casey gets all the airplay it deserves…

      Austin

      • http://myblahg.com Robert McClelland

        Casey happily held his tongue while these sleazy tactics were deployed against his colleagues. Now that they’ve been turned on him he shouldn’t expect anyone to care about his plight.

        • http://www.macleans.ca Kady O’Malley

          Uh, when was that?

          • http://myblahg.com Robert McClelland

            During the Garth Turner saga for one.

          • http://prairiewrangler.wordpress.com/ Olaf

            If I had the capacity to feel human emotions, I think I would be sad right now. During my time in NS, I only heard the very best of things about Bill Casey (I knew some who worked on his campaign team, and many from his constituency), and he is held in extremely high regard by his constituents. Obviously, I can’t speak to the veracity of the allegations, but from everything I’ve heard about the guy, it really doesn’t seem to fit. Like not at all. If this is the CPC trying to tarnish a good name in order to punish Casey for doing what he thought was right by his constituents, I really don’t know what I would say. But I do know that the swear word to non-swear word ratio would be very high. Like Guinness World Record high.

          • http://macleans.ca kc

            Apart from revenge and ethics aside. Why? Are the the atlantic provinces such a waste-land for Tories that they could afford such bad PR? Puzzling! I don’t hold the Harper govt in any kind of regard, but this appears just dumb, dumb, and dumber!

          • Douglass

            Kc: Apart from revenge and ethics aside. Why?

            Its free, and it plays to their base (see page one). It does a wonderful job of distracting and changing the conversation. Doesn’t it?

          • http://macleans.ca kc

            No-one deserves this Robert!

      • David

        You sure?

      • http://www.jamiesonrothwell.com jsrothwell

        neither is self-righteousness Robert

    • baldygirl

      That’s unnecessarily harsh.

  • john

    Gawd they’re slimey

    • MJM

      The CPC has to implement due diligence – or else they might find themselves on the end of an investigation for not recovering or using public funds appropriately. If that was the case, you can bet that the media and Opposition parties would be on this like a flea on – well you know what!

      • seaandthemountains

        Due diligence does not require criminal allegations. It requires consulting internal files, elections Canada and perhaps Mr Casey.

        You are your party are pathetic.

  • MT

    canada – shit nation, corrupt beyond saving. The RCMP has to be abolished.

    And this is the party Iggy supports.

    • SJ

      ?? Eh wut? Last time I checked. The CONS were harpers party not ignatieffs. Please explain.

      • Ben Hicks

        I think he means voting for Harper’s budget.

  • rumor

    Kady, how do you get transcripts so fast?

    • rumor

      Ah, answered my own question. The Hansard blues!

  • Stephen

    If the RCMP is knowingly engaged in political gamesmanship then we are back to the old days of it acting like Chretiens hit squad.

    Casey has called out his accusers, so we will see which way it all comes out.

  • MJH

    Politics is a dirty business.

  • TobyornotToby

    Woohoo, game on!

    Your move Mr. Harper.

  • Ti-Guy

    Wow. What a bunch of scumballs the Conservatives are. But then, when you look at their supporters, it’s hard to be surprised.

    • Alan

      Way to take the low road.

      • Sisyphus

        It’s awfully hard to find the high one.

        • Ti-Guy

          Yeah really. After almost four years of “Harpies Behaving Badly,” I’m sure not going to bother giving these humourless miscreants the benefit of the doubt.

          • bud

            You’re beyond pathetic Little-Mind.

        • Darrell

          Although I’m no supporter of the Conservatives, if Casey gave back the money ‘Penny for Penny’ after holding it in his campaign account for however long he did, there may be a question of what happened to the interest.

          • Critical Reasoning

            If he kept in in an ordinary chequing account, the interest on the $30,000 would probably be enough to buy a cup of coffee.

    • MJH

      Very much the low road!!

    • Barcs

      My apologies for all us “knuckledragers” Ti-guy….

      With your love and hard work I hope to someday become as tolerant as you are of others and their opinions.

      • Ti-Guy

        Intolerance of perfidy is a virtue. You’ll never find me rationalising any bad behaviour the Liberals have got up to.

        • Barcs

          so you don’t vote tory or liberal,…. or NDP or Bloc, or green.

          Or do you vote for one of them? how do you rationalize to make that vote then?? But you don’t rationalize…. Does that mean you vote and you are just lying to us about not rationalizing?

          Or do you just rationalize your intolerance of me and others by defining us as wrong treasonous… It’s alright to hate so long as it isn’t a group you identify with… right??

          • Ti-Guy

            What is this, the Inquisition?

            I vote for my local candidate, usually on the basis of the lesser evil. Although I’ll never vote Conservative now, not while these irrational radicals are in charge.

          • Sisyphus

            Not good enough , Ti-Guy. You have to rise above your baser instincts and learn to tolerate the intolerable.

            I have a spare hair shirt you can borrow, if you like.

  • Stewart Preston

    on September 19, 2008, an unnamed group of Conservatives attended the Bible Hill office of the RCMP

    So a question for the astute posters… If Casey asks the RCMP who was in this group as part of assessing whether legal action should proceed, do they have to tell him?

  • Paul Wells

    I’m just loving how it had to be the “Bible Hill” office. Just down the street from the God Is Watching You Lie and Sin detachment.

    • Sisyphus

      Ah , You’ve been to Truro. The place where they ( at least Mayor ) refuses to fly the gay pride flag.

    • http://macleans.ca kc

      Just wait until they roll out the

      • http://macleans.ca kc

        Oh god why is it always me?

        • SAB

          I don’t know, but I remain in suspense to see what they are rolling out….

          • http://macleans.ca kc

            SAB
            Fraid you’ll have to remain there for a while yet! I’ve forgotten the punch line. But feel free by all means.

        • http://macleans.ca kc

          Ahem…Just round the corner from the god knows you did it, so why don’t you just come out and admit it branch.

  • Lord Bob

    Good to see we’re all making immediate snap judgements after hearing one side of the story. That sort of thing won’t cause us trouble at all.

    • LeslieE

      Interesting isn’t it.
      I bet there are some (CPC) people in northern Nova Scotia that are a little bit nervous at the moment.

      • cam

        not to mention the provincial Progressive Conservative party I’ll bet.

      • Sisyphus

        Probably not that nervous. If Casey really does retire they’ll likely elect a Conservative to replace him.

        They still think the Conservatives are Progressive Conservatives.

        • bud

          Just like some people believe the Liberals are no longer corrupt!

          • Jack M

            By their own admission: a Conservative party official said that the idea to use the RCMP to discredit Casey’s name during the campaign was made by a volunteer Conservative operative in Casey’s riding.

            It just proves how corrupt and morally bankrupt conservatives are. Making a joke of the RCMP and making false accusations under the criminal code. Next time perhaps they will claim that their opponents have large collections of child pornography on their hard drives and the CPC will be able to count on lowlifes like yourself to mindlessly repeating the lie.

            The LPC is corrupt? You’re blind and pathetic.

          • J@ck M!tchell

            I wonder, Jack M, if you might pick a slightly more specific nick?

    • Ti-Guy

      It’s not like this is the first time the Cons have got up to dirty tricks.

      • Lord Bob

        Well, of course, as the Conservatives are a Canadian political party and seem to be just as corrupt as the rest of them.

        Of course, Bill Casey is a Member of Parliament, and that’s not exactly a position renowned for integrity and honesty either. So we can safely reserve judgement.

        • http://www.macleans.ca Kady O’Malley

          I think you’ll find that, as far as his service to his constituents goes, there are few MPs of any partisan or ideological hue who would chide Bill Casey for his efforts. Having watched him since his days as a backbench Progressive Conservative to Canadian Alliance to Conservative to government and finally independent, I can say that he is downright relentless when it comes to putting the interests of his riding before his own.

          • Brian Marlatt

            Bill Casey was never a member of the Canadian Reform Conservative Alliance, incidently. To argue that the “Conservative” Party is just Reform by any other name is fair, but to suggest that the honourable member was ever a member of either Reform or the CA as registered parties with those names would be incorrect. It would also be fair to say that the honourable member has tried his best to make the “merger” of the PCs and CA work; events, policy and the legislative record would suggest that the attempt did not have the success he worked so hard to credit.

          • Sisyphus

            That being said , Kady , his riding is an ” interesting ” one. The Cumberland part of it is currently held by an ex-PC member who was a provincial Cabinet member ( Ernie Fage ). He got in a spot of legal trouble and that combined with some earlier shenanigans got him dumped from the cabinet and sent into party limbo.
            He does usually vote with the PCs but the party says he can not be a PC candidate in the next election.
            He says he will run as an independent. He’s no Bill Casey but he’s a local good ol’ boy and has a chance.

            Meanwhile the first person to step forward as a prospective PC nominee quickly withdrew and left town for a while because of personal threats to person and property. Until very recently they couldn’t get any one else to seek the nomination. The watch continues.

            Central Canadian politics is so dull.

      • MJH

        Name me a Party that hasn’t used “dirty tricks”?

      • Ti-Guy

        Yeah but Conservative (and conservative) malfeasance always strikes me as a manifestation of deep and entrenched moral bankruptcy. That’s why conservatives like authoritarianism; it’s really to save them from themselves.

    • http://macleans.ca kc

      Don’t you jump to conclusions JWL! No-one’s suggesting due process shouldn’t be followed by everyone. i’m just enjoying the delicious irony of seeing cons defend a con govt from a lib mob who are defending a former member of said govt.

    • TobyornotToby

      The problem Lord Bob, is we don’t get to hear the Conservatives’ side of the story until they are deposed in the law suits they file to avoid having to answer in parliament. (Cadman, In Out)

    • Jenn

      No, that’s a good point, jwl. There is absolutely no evidence whatsoever that the Conservative Party, or even any particular Conservative, set out to destroy the man’s reputation.

      And yet, it is so very easy to believe that is exactly what happened.

      I apologize for jumping to the conclusion that everything Bill Casey said was right, and that the Conservative Party, or a Conservative Party member, is at fault here.

      My defense is if you are going to play dirty politics the way the Conservative Party has (election-date law, manual of committee dysfunction, et al) this is the kind of stuff people will believe about you. Nevertheless, that shouldn’t affect how I personally behave.

      But your point is well taken, jwl. It is funny how Conservatives don’t mind pronouncing guilt without a trial or compelling evidence in one case, yet demand the benefit of the doubt in another.

      • T. Thwim

        There was no flag there, dammit! And if there was, it’s because the Liberal MSM photoshopped it in after the fact.

  • Dije

    If Members of Parliament can be smeared in this way, anyone can. Sounds like they were going to Goodale him, but per usual, lacked that ‘evidence’ stuff our courts wrongly still require.

    If on a routine traffic stop and you start to hear “zap zap zap”… you will know plan B is in action Bill. And we all know the RCMP is better trained at tasering than investigating…

    • seaandthemountains

      i think as the Goodale case demonstrates, sometimes the allegation is more important than the evidence

  • Jenn

    TobyornotToby, this is NOT a game. This is an assault against a man who actually cares about his reputation. There are so few of them left, especially with a political bent.

    I don’t necessarily agree with Bill Casey’s politics, but I have no reason to question his ethics. And the bit about every name whited out except his is convincing evidence, at least to me, that the RCMPs time is up.

  • billg

    You got alot of hate in you eh Ti-guy?

    • Ti-Guy

      You got alot of hate in you eh Ti-guy?

      Only for the hateful.

  • http://macleans.ca kc

    Could this be the first stone in the avalanche that will eventually bury this Conservative govt? If so, good riddance to bad rubbish!

    • Sisyphus

      I wouldn’t get too hot and heavy , kc. We’re talking about one Atlantic Canadian politician here. It has no effect on the real world of Ottawa. PMSH , if necessary , can make it disappear with another one-person “investigation” – like Gerry Ritz – never to be seen again.

      • http://macleans.ca kc

        Does that mean i can put away my shovel now?I was just about to wind up my rescue dog!

        • Sisyphus

          If the dog’s the kind that carries brandy , don’t let it go to waste.

          • http://macleans.ca kc

            Brandy! Are you crazy! I think i’ve got some Alberta warmer left over, that outta do it!

          • Sisyphus

            Ask Danny to send you some Screech. But you’ll to ask him real nice ….

          • http://macleans.ca kc

            Hang on! I hear some rumbling from the hills again. She might go yet SIS ? Ya just gotta have faith, one stone at a time. Now where’s the dog n shovel? Darnit! I knew i shoudnta finished that warmer! Got some more somewhere, keepn it for a special occasion!

      • Stewart Preston

        Unbelievably it appears no-one has named this scandal yet.

        • TobyornotToby

          That’s because no one can find a rhyme with Musquodobit. Jack is probably writing a song as we speak though …

          • Jenn

            LOL!

          • Critical Reasoning

            Oh, somewhere in this favored land the sun is shining bright,
            The band is playing somewhere, and somewhere hearts are light,
            And somewhere men are laughing, and little children shout;
            But there is no joy in Musquodoboit — mighty Casey has struck out.

            (We’re still waiting for your song, Jack!)

          • http://macleans.ca kc

            Waiting! I’ll say. Is there a rhyme for Musquodoboit?

          • J@ck M!tchell

            Sorry, just came in from the cold, song coming up.

            “Is there a rhyme for Musquodoboit?”

            Um, forgive my ignorance, but how is it pronounced?

          • Paul Wells

            Dusky Hobbit.
            Must ye lob it.

          • Sisyphus

            Doesn’t matter. Fiest has Mushaboom already.

          • Sisyphus

            Oh, and if it helps any , Tatamagouche – whence the women have went – is in the same riding.

          • J@ck M!tchell

            Poem now up on next page.

          • archangel

            Jack.. pronounced Mosquito bite.

  • Alan

    Is this being reported anywhere else? I’ve been looking on CBC and G&M but so far I haven’t seen it.

  • Pat

    And it’s a good thing that we take the voice of one politician, claiming “harm done” over the facts as presented. Myself, I think that I’ll wait a while and see how this plays out, in spite of the fact that there will be no delay on the part of the Dippers and Liebrals to denounce the CPC.

    Happy Mob Frenzy everyone!!

    • http://macleans.ca kc

      Yep, the mounties are on the job they’ll get their man ; if you pt them in the right direction that is?

      • Shenping

        And give them tasers.

  • seaandthemountains

    some body better line up another staffer to take a fall….

    it does seem more and more, all the CPC vitriol-infused ‘tactics’ are coming back to hurt them.

    • Sisyphus

      Done. Word now is that the RCMP were called in, against local advice, by the parachutee candidate’s official agent.

  • Ted

    CBC now has the story up, as does the Canadian Press.

    Still no official talking points response from the Conservative Party.

  • Catherine M.

    Harper acts like a petulant 9 year old. What an embarrassment.

    • Two Yen

      What does this have to do with Harper? There is no evidence he had anything to do with it. The Harper haters only weaken their case by constantly jumping to conclisions.

  • Barcs

    as obviously non-partisan as… say… ti-guy…

    • Ti-Guy

      It’s not my fault that facts and evidence have a liberal bias. I can’t help myself. I was born with a brain.

      • Barcs

        were you?

        I won’t take that as a personal insult… because I know you are too tolerant as a liberal to make personal insults..right?

        Tell me about evidence that isn’t liberal biased then will you? Like Chretien assaulting a protester?? (on tape choking a protester??) or Francois Beaudoin?? Or how the innocent party you seem to support got rid of the GST, NAFTA and implemented national childcare like they said they were going to. Or are you just as hateful to the liberals that lied to you as you are to Harper? (or are you back to lying to me about not rationalizing again?)

        • Ti-Guy

          Again with the Inquisition.

          I didn’t live in Canada for most of the 90′s, so the Liberals many and outrageous disappointments haven’t left me as bitter and raging as Conservatives. They had one chance with me and they blew it by choosing that profoundly self-deluded, humourless Canada-hating solipsist and petulant martinet Stephen Harper as leader.

          Or are you just as hateful to the liberals that lied to you as you are to Harper?

          The thing is, I don’t give an ounce of thought to what a party promises to do. I pay attention to how it governs when it’s in power.

        • Barcs

          you seem to compare harpers promises to his doings well enough….

          And as to what you call the “inquisition”… I am tired of you being high and mighty and then displaying the same hatefulness you claim to despise…. I simply called you on it. You are no different than me or the “knuckledragers” or the Dippers or the tories, or Harper himself.

          I know you will disagree,… but please open your mouth and prove it once again.

        • Ti-Guy

          you seem to compare harpers promises to his doings well enough…

          When? I don’t even remember any of his promises. Neither does he, apparently.

          Stop making things up.

          I am tired of you being high and mighty and then displaying the same hatefulness you claim to despise….

          Well, go have a nap then.

        • T. Thwim

          Perhaps you’re unaware, but it seems Canadians already applied judgement for those things. You’ll note who is in opposition.

          Beyond that, the time to rail about that was then (and I did.. you missed the pepper incident, btw, probably one of the most disgraceful incidents under Chretien) and this is now.

          Incidentally, the typical response to your plaintitive cry of “But Moomm.. he did it first!” is “If he jumped off a bridge, would you follow?”

          The Liberal’s past behavior is no excuse for the present behavior of Conservatives.

      • bud

        Evidence?

  • Jared

    When did Robert join the CPC? or is that new NDP speak?

  • http://caiti-online.blogspot.com/ Transcanada

    This is the longest serving MP who did a great job for his constituents. He will be praised long after the Harper government is a sleazy little footnote.

    Looks good on ya Harper you coward.

  • liberal’s lackey’s

    This is an outrage. What next, a website restating these unproven allegations? This is pure smear politics. The RCMP have found nothing improper.

    Oh, wait, I’m thinking of that thing with the Liberal’s posting on their website Harper was involved in an illegal bribe in regards to Cadman. If memory serves me right they actually had a van driving around Ottawa with a speaker saying Harper was guilty. And two audio experts stated the tape was altered the day before the election, experts hired by the Liberal’s.

    Sorry guys, this is politics as usual here, as sad as that is.

    • http://macleans.ca kc

      Liar! Harper’s own expert testified that the tape wasn’t altered! that one’s still before the courts, held up i believe because Harper’s lawer quit. Nice try at muddying the waters. But no need they’re looking pretty murky already!

    • Liz

      The van went around Ottawa playing Harper’s OWN WORDS, ON TAPE! “…on the offer to Chuck…” Remember?

      We do.

    • Jack M

      Quote: Denial is a defense mechanism postulated by Sigmund Freud, in which a person is faced with a fact that is too uncomfortable to accept and rejects it instead, insisting that it is not true despite what may be overwhelming evidence. The subject may deny the reality of the unpleasant fact altogether (simple denial), admit the fact but deny its seriousness (minimisation) or admit both the fact and seriousness but deny responsibility (transference).

      A commonly-cited example of spurious denial is the conservative who insists, against all evidence, that his party never not to blame. This form of denial is where someone avoids a fact by lying but it can also involves avoiding personal responsibility by blaming, minimizing or justifying. Someone using denial of responsibility is usually attempting to avoid potential harm or pain by shifting attention away from themselves.

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