On why it's a good idea to read your party's proposed opposition day motions …

by kadyomalley on Monday, February 9, 2009 11:06am - 17 Comments

Or ITQ, for that matter: It makes it less likely that you’ll inadvertantly – or perhaps deliberately – publicly contradict your party’s position on, for instance, the need to support the independence of the Parliamentary Budget Office:

Canada’s Parliamentary Budget Officer Kevin Page, who last week warned that Ottawa’s projections for climbing out of deficit within half a decade may be too optimistic and said the government’s $40-billion stimulus package may have a smaller and less effective impact than billed, is garnering too much media attention and shouldn’t be allowed to release his sensational reports unilaterally, says Liberal MP Carolyn Bennett.

Moreover, Ms. Bennett told The Hill Times that she’s concerned with the tone of the massive media attention regarding Mr. Page’s office budget and the public disagreement with the Library of Parliament chief librarian William Young, and said she believes it damages the institution of Parliament and the respect of the Speakers of the House and Senate.

“I don’t know of another bureaucrat or public servant who gets to go public when their budget is cut. A deputy minister would be fired. You don’t do this in the court of public opinion. Usually, you do this at committees and in estimates and you make your case and if you don’t get the money you want, then you are quiet and, at the next try do this, so I’ve been concerned that even though it seems, in terms of the reporting of this, that it was a criticism of the Speakers or a criticism of the Parliamentary Library, this is supposed to be about Parliamentarians and about the public, not about a new institution,” said Ms. Bennett. [...]

Mr. Page is also a media-friendly bureaucrat, which is unusual. The office will reword queries in order to make them more broad and non-partisan. Mr. Page argues this is all part of the transparency and accountability for his office and a way to show non-partisanship.

It is, however, different from how the Library of Parliament operates.

Library researchers do research for Parliamentarians but provide the results of this research privately to Parliamentarians.

“I’m quite concerned [that] the Parliamentary Budget Officer sees himself as an independent practitioner who can report whenever he wants…That wouldn’t be in the best interest of some Parliamentarians who might ask for a study, get the results from the Parliamentary budget officer and then want to release it, say a month later with all the stakeholders and be able to actually make their point in the best possible way. If the Parliamentary budget officer sees himself as truly independent, then he would believe that he could release it whenever he wants to, as opposed to the wishes of the Parliamentarian or the Parliamentary committee that had commissioned the study,” said Ms. Bennett.



First off, it’s true that neither of the Liberal motions currently on the Order Paper explicitly address the question of when and how the Parliamentary Budget Officer should release his reports — although the matter did come up before the Finance committee last week, and Page assured members that, in the event that a report is requested by a parliamentary committee, it would be delivered to the committee before being made public, thereby assuaging at least one of Bennett’s stated concerns. But both do express strong support for allowing the current inhabitant of the job to carry out his mandate, and would require the Library of Parliament to “facilitate” his ability to do so.

The question of how the PBO should deal with the release of reports requested by individual MPs is an interesting one, and should definitely be brought up at committee — in fact, perhaps before more than one committee, as suggested by NDP MP David Chrisopherson later in the same article — but when it comes to Bennett’s criticism of Page’s decision to “go public” with his concerns over the budget, ITQ finds her attitude puzzling, to put it kindly.

Bennett suggests that, rather than discuss his concerns with the media, Page should follow the lead of other “bureaucrats”, from deputy ministers on down, and take his case to committee. Which, last time ITQ checked, is, in fact “going public”, since committee meetings – those dealing with budgets and estimates, at least – are, in fact, open to the public. (Yes, even the Library of Parliament committee.)

But it is Parliament that is ultimately responsible for determining the budget for full independent officers of Parliament, such as the Auditor General, but also the Library — which makes sense, when you think about it for like, three seconds, because the last thing in the world you want an ostensibly independent investigator to worry about is whether his or her office could have its budget slashed if it puts out a report critical of the government in power. That is just as much a potential concern for the Parliamentary Budget Officer as it would be for Sheila Fraser, which is why putting his office under the Library of Parliament makes no sense, but you’ve heard that rant from ITQ already.

Anyway, considering that it is, after all, her party that is currently agitating to increase the PBO’s workload enormously with its request that he provide his take on those quarterly accountability reports that they want from the government, Bennett and the rest of her caucus colleagues should be urging their fellow parliamentarians to make sure that his budget is fattened up as well. Instead, she’s chiding him for being too chatty with reporters. ITQ gets that she doesn’t want this to turn into a free-for-all bashing of the Library of Parliament – which absolutely does not deserve to be in the middle of this mess – but shooting the messenger? Not really the answer here.

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  • Just visiting

    I’d say that Bennett understands that her party is, as some have already noted, in a de facto coalition with the Conservatives right now, and that the Libs have no more interest than the government in seeing Page do his job aggressively in coming months.

    As for the reports on the alleged “results” of the economic stimulus package demanded by the Libs, these reports are as likely to embarrass the Libs as the Conservatives, since both parties support the stimulus package.

    There no way that these reports will “prove” anything whatsoever about the impact, if any, of the measures in the budget. This will be just fine with the government and, I suspect, with the Liberals.

    I think the whole dynamic of this Parliament — from now until either Harper or Ignatieff want an election — will be one of cooperation between the two largest parties in the House, with a few faux policy wars thrown in to make it all look good. I don’t expect much by way of forceful accountability either in the House, or in committees.

    In fact, I think it is going to be very dull on the Hill until one of the two major leaders decides it’s time for an election.

    - JV

  • commentator

    But the PBO is not independent, Kady–he’s under the Library of Parliament which sets his budget after its budget is set. So why is the PBO different from a department that gets slashed/frozen/a small raise? It’s really not different.
    And the point of Bennett’s intervention is that a loose cannon is not a good thing. The message surely is that Page’s uncontrolled/uncontrollable actions are threatening the very office he holds, and I’m not sure why this is hard to fathom, Kady.

    • Just visiting

      You are just stating the problem. As Kady noted, the PBO was set up incorrectly to begin with. It was initially intended to be an independent office serving MPs, but instead, it was set up like any other administrative unit, reporting to a deputy head. That is the problem. The solution is to either a) kill the office, or b) make it an independent office, reporting to Parliament (same as the AG and others).

      - JV

      • commentator

        Exactly right. But for the moment, the PBO exists where it does with the rules in place. The problem is that Page forgets his place, and I’d suggest he 8s endangering the office. When even Liberals complain…

  • http://challengingthecommonplace.blogspot.com Chrystal Ocean

    Bennett is talking outside of her purview. She’s the health critic for crikey’s sake.

  • http://doconnor.homeip.net/ Darwin O’Connor

    Interestingly, the American counter part to the Library of Parliament, the Congressional Research Service, just had all it’s research for the past ten year published on Wikileaks. In the past, despite being not copyrighted these reports where only available to members of Congress who published reports they agreed with and hid ones the didn’t.

  • Stewart Preston

    I agree with Bennett and co that Page is well on his way to becoming a problem. Of course, this really started with Sheila Fraser in the AG office. When bureaucrats fall in love with the microphone (and are good at it), it becomes impossible for them to filter out their opinions from their factual findings. I often find that Fraser’s reports read more like newspaper copy than a straightforward audit. Listening to Page on the CBC recently I was struck by two things: 1) how willing he was to speculate and 2) how weak the analytical tools were that he had at his disposal.

    • rumor

      This is not being said enough. The independence of the PBO is somewhat a separate question from what Kevin Page is actually saying and doing. While most of us here and probably (but who knows) most Canadians would prefer to see an independent budget officer, one also has to consider the quality of the work of the actual person. The problem here is that we all love how Page is pushing the envelope of his office, and I suspect to a lesser extent we’re loving how he’s contradicting the government on the budget issue, but the actual substance of Page’s work isn’t all that awesome. Which is a good reason to argue that he should have to go through committee in order to get his quality vetted before grabbing the mic.

  • Gregory

    Still trying to figure out that ITQ thing you ad to all your tweets… and now you are using it here? WTF?

  • Jenn

    Gregory, ITQ stands for Inside The Queensway. Which is apparently a road that rings downtown Ottawa or some such. The Americans have inside the beltway, which this is a take-off from. Too bad wordpress doesn’t allow you to permanently have that (an explanation) at the top of the blog, Kady.

    Rumor (why American spelling?) I agree with everything you said except your conclusion. What makes you question the substance of Page’s work? And even if it was somewhat substandard (which I don’t agree that it is) how is having him a section of the Library of Parliament a help? Perhaps a better, independent of the Library, budget would help–or at the very least restoring what he’d expected to have in the first place. Perhaps more time by employing more people would help the quality of the writing (not that I’ve seen anything wrong with it).

    • rumor

      The name is an old personal reference, and as you know, proper nouns maintain their own spelling.

      I do think Page’s work, particularly his economic estimates, are substandard. They stand on very little original research or analysis, and fail to pursue challenging questions to orthodox predictions. (Lest you assume wrongly, I think he’s underestimated the precariousness of the economy, not the other way around.) Perhaps this is a function of his and/or his office’s relative youth or a lack a resources. Perhaps not. One of my points is that this isn’t directly relevant to the independence question. It’s possible to prefer an independent PBO office while still being critical of the current PBO output, and I do. (Although to be more specific, I think the PBO function should just be rolled into the Auditor General’s office, since the expertise and infrastructure already exist. If you ask me, the only reason the PBO was created as a separate office – in fact, the only rationale I can see for doing so – is specifically to keep it under the thumbs of parliamentarians. What the PBO is is what was intended. Page is ignoring this, because he’s trying to live up to the erroneous and quite possibly disingenuous public statements made by the government as to the “independent” nature of his office.)

      Anyway, the point of independence aside, yes, I am critical of his work, and I think having to go through committee would improve it. Generally, this is the case. Parliamentary committees are typically very good scrutineers (although the Senate is better…). I’m not saying this specifically to make an argument against independence for the office, but it is hard to avoid that conclusion, isn’t it?

  • Paul Wells

    Stands for Inside The Queensway. If I did the same it’d be IW, which is less chic.

  • http://www2.parl.gc.ca/HousePublications/Publication.aspx?DocId=3312950&Language=E&Mode=1&Parl=39&Ses=2#Int-2341649 Jason

    re: quality – people seem to be making subjective rather than objective comparisons. It is probably more appropriate to compare the work against similar products (and with similar resources). I notice that no one is highlighting the excellent, high quality products of department/agency/bank/consultancy that leave PBO in the dust.

    re: chumminess of Bennett and the Librarian – the attached Hansard transcript suggests that they have had a longstanding professional relationship. That said, it doesn’t necessarily speak to bias. Moreover, she does raise a couple of points that seemed to have been overlooked in the Stakeholder Consultation presentation on the PBO website (maybe she wasn’t part of the cross-sample that was consulted?), which ought to be addressed.

    • rumor

      “Everyone else sucks” is not a valid argument that one does not suck or does not need to do better than sucking. Come on, now.

  • Rock Gordon

    Carolyn Bennett says: [quote]Usually, you do this at committees and in estimates and you make your case and if you don’t get the money you want, then you are quiet …[/quote]

    Perfect push for transparency, accountability and freedom of speech, no? Is Carolyn Bennett on the Joint Parliamentary Committee on the Library of Parliament of Zimbabwe or North Korea or something?

  • Kay

    A fact that is perhaps overlooked by the article (and maybe unknown) but quite pertinent to the discussion is that Carolyn Bennett and the Parliamentary Librarian are quite good friends. Just something to think about.

  • Critical Reasoning

    How do you know this?

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