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		<title>By: botox Atlanta</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/02/12/a-generation-of-failure/comment-page-2/#comment-83819</link>
		<dc:creator>botox Atlanta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jun 2010 03:38:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s the difference with all the economies if had been hit by one huge recession, I believe that it really doesn&#039;t make any difference.</description>
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		<title>By: Dennis</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/02/12/a-generation-of-failure/comment-page-2/#comment-83818</link>
		<dc:creator>Dennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 14:17:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Marines are hiring. Opportunities await in Afghanistan and other places that will surprise you.</description>
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		<title>By: John Hambton</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Hambton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 00:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and if he does, so what?  I&#039;d be smoking three pack a day right now if I had four kids to support.  We could argue all day long about the sense of having kids you can&#039;t afford but the entire society surrounding them says it&#039;s ok.  If we actually had an LEADERS in this world, they would be telling people that good times don&#039;t last, save for a rainy day, whatever you &#039;think&#039; you can afford, cut that by 75%.  Hah! Right!  We morons would vote those negative-nellies out of office so fast their asses wouldn&#039;t even hit their overstuffed office chairs.  The government spends way more than it takes in and seems to survive, so why shouldn&#039;t we?  It only makes sense.  So - blame the little people if you must but realize that they were led there by the nose and encouraged every step of the way by those who knew better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and if he does, so what?  I&#039;d be smoking three pack a day right now if I had four kids to support.  We could argue all day long about the sense of having kids you can&#039;t afford but the entire society surrounding them says it&#039;s ok.  If we actually had an LEADERS in this world, they would be telling people that good times don&#039;t last, save for a rainy day, whatever you &#039;think&#039; you can afford, cut that by 75%.  Hah! Right!  We morons would vote those negative-nellies out of office so fast their asses wouldn&#039;t even hit their overstuffed office chairs.  The government spends way more than it takes in and seems to survive, so why shouldn&#039;t we?  It only makes sense.  So &#8211; blame the little people if you must but realize that they were led there by the nose and encouraged every step of the way by those who knew better.</p>
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		<title>By: Alyssa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alyssa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 22:19:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YEAH! GO GEN X</description>
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		<title>By: C</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/02/12/a-generation-of-failure/comment-page-2/#comment-83815</link>
		<dc:creator>C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 22:16:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi GenX reality,

And where do you think credit cards came from??  Hmmmm......

I also have a University Degree, plus two certificate trade programs. Any advice for me? I&#039;ve been struggling to get a toe-hold into a position for 5 years. I don&#039;t over-spend. Haven&#039;t been on a vacation for 7 years. Thank you for your opinions. Just remember that we all have one. And, we all come from our unique perspective which we hold dear. So let&#039;s be easy on the finger-waving and stereo-typing. And, come on folks, let&#039;s support our own!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi GenX reality,</p>
<p>And where do you think credit cards came from??  Hmmmm&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>I also have a University Degree, plus two certificate trade programs. Any advice for me? I&#8217;ve been struggling to get a toe-hold into a position for 5 years. I don&#8217;t over-spend. Haven&#8217;t been on a vacation for 7 years. Thank you for your opinions. Just remember that we all have one. And, we all come from our unique perspective which we hold dear. So let&#8217;s be easy on the finger-waving and stereo-typing. And, come on folks, let&#8217;s support our own!!</p>
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		<title>By: MICHELLE</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/02/12/a-generation-of-failure/comment-page-2/#comment-83814</link>
		<dc:creator>MICHELLE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 17:25:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t believe how many grown up children especially men live at home with thier  parents. I see it also is ok for most  of these parents or aleast they don&#039;t say anything outloud in public. Well I&#039;m going to. My son graduated 12 and I&#039;m extremely happy about that. Then after I gave him about 6 or 7 months to  relax and enjoys his reward so to speak. Then one day I realized I was paying his unemployed friends that  practically lived at our house  well some did for different periods of time. FOR FREE OF COURSE. SO THEN i TOLD HIM IT WAS TIME TO GO LOOK FOR WORK.Well he found a job delivering pizzas that didn&#039;t cost me too much  You know gas to get to work , oh ya had to buy him a car o he could get those pizzas to you still hot and insurance  delivery people have to pay more of course and  collision  just to be safe  so if by change  the worst happened he would be able to get right back into another car  so he wouldn&#039;t lose his job oh don&#039;t forget the cell phone I drew the line when gps &#039;s were brought up. H e grew up here . He should know is way around good enoughand with the fines for being teo lazy atleast that what I call it to put his L and N on or had too many friends in the car.can&#039;t get insurance without paying the fines. Well at this point the tally runs between3 and 4 thousand and he hasen&#039;t even worked a shift yet not bad eh! and I &#039;m a single unemployed mom because I got 3 speeding tickets  with in 5 years  so they prohibatated   from being able to even apply  for a drivers licence anywhere in Canada OR  the USA AND LIKE SO MANY  other prohibitated drivers I know I tried to keep working bute was one of  the  unlucky ones and got caught so there  we go another  fine to pay  $500. and off to jail for 14 days.  That was an interesting trip  they have 5 seperate cages  ( metal  Covered over by Plexi glass ) a metal bench type seat theres NO  extra space  room for 1 and 1 only.. Your handcuffed then  they hand cuff your feet and with the heavy duty chain attached to your   feet ones  they use a pad lock to look your feet to your hands,then shut your cage door put a nother padlock on then they shut the  van doorsand lock them as well. I was caught driving well  prohibated not running the  picton pig farm! no seat belts,heat or  anything and up Island we travel from CAMPBELL RIVER TO VICTORIA. . THEN ONTO A PLANE  LITTLE TINY BUT VERY LOUD PLANE STILL ALL HANDCUFFED AND SHACKLED.  Over to surry we went. got off  at some big airport didn&#039;t tell is which one and  into another van  these guys were alot nicer they gave each of us one of those gray thin wool blankets so we could sit on them or try to keep warm.. As cold as I was I had to choose sitting on it with not enough  meat  on my behind  I  discovered  two new bones  that I didn&#039;t know were even there.and off to surrey pretrial maximum security prison I went I wonder what that cost the tax payers  and then it was about 8 days later and they said I was free to go  gave me back the clothes I was wearing when I  got  arrested  and pointed at the stairs so I went up them and when I got to the top there was this guy sitting in like a toll booth and he pointed to the door on the right  behind him  and when I went through it found myself outside  locked out  because it&#039;s his job  to make sure only  people that  have passes  or what ever get in. And a bunch  of signs all around  saying stuff like  NO VISITORS  tresspassers would be prosicuted to  the fullest  the law will allow  IF YOU ARE A PERSON  JUST RELEASED YOUR REQUIRED TO LEAVE THE PROPERTY IMMEDIATLY OR YOU&#039;LL BE CHARGED  AND IMPRISIONED. i WAS LIKE WHAT THE @%#&amp;  HOW AM i GOING TO GET  HOME but kept on going  I wasn&#039;t going back in. OOPS A LITTLE VENTING  THERE THANKS FOR LISTENING...       But  back to my kid  he won&#039;t lift a finger around here  doesn&#039;t pay me for his  cell phone bill in my name or pay his room and board I go  buy groceries like $500. at once because  it&#039;s very rare that somebody  comes around  with a licence and I&#039;ve already lost 5 or 6 vehicles to the impound for people  driving them  without a licence. So he invites abunch of friends over for about 3 days in a row  till it&#039;s all gone.I have been asking him to leave since Dec.08 it&#039;s march 09 and he still hasent left!!! what can I do PLEASE  HELP</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t believe how many grown up children especially men live at home with thier  parents. I see it also is ok for most  of these parents or aleast they don&#8217;t say anything outloud in public. Well I&#8217;m going to. My son graduated 12 and I&#8217;m extremely happy about that. Then after I gave him about 6 or 7 months to  relax and enjoys his reward so to speak. Then one day I realized I was paying his unemployed friends that  practically lived at our house  well some did for different periods of time. FOR FREE OF COURSE. SO THEN i TOLD HIM IT WAS TIME TO GO LOOK FOR WORK.Well he found a job delivering pizzas that didn&#8217;t cost me too much  You know gas to get to work , oh ya had to buy him a car o he could get those pizzas to you still hot and insurance  delivery people have to pay more of course and  collision  just to be safe  so if by change  the worst happened he would be able to get right back into another car  so he wouldn&#8217;t lose his job oh don&#8217;t forget the cell phone I drew the line when gps &#8216;s were brought up. H e grew up here . He should know is way around good enoughand with the fines for being teo lazy atleast that what I call it to put his L and N on or had too many friends in the car.can&#8217;t get insurance without paying the fines. Well at this point the tally runs between3 and 4 thousand and he hasen&#8217;t even worked a shift yet not bad eh! and I &#8216;m a single unemployed mom because I got 3 speeding tickets  with in 5 years  so they prohibatated   from being able to even apply  for a drivers licence anywhere in Canada OR  the USA AND LIKE SO MANY  other prohibitated drivers I know I tried to keep working bute was one of  the  unlucky ones and got caught so there  we go another  fine to pay  $500. and off to jail for 14 days.  That was an interesting trip  they have 5 seperate cages  ( metal  Covered over by Plexi glass ) a metal bench type seat theres NO  extra space  room for 1 and 1 only.. Your handcuffed then  they hand cuff your feet and with the heavy duty chain attached to your   feet ones  they use a pad lock to look your feet to your hands,then shut your cage door put a nother padlock on then they shut the  van doorsand lock them as well. I was caught driving well  prohibated not running the  picton pig farm! no seat belts,heat or  anything and up Island we travel from CAMPBELL RIVER TO VICTORIA. . THEN ONTO A PLANE  LITTLE TINY BUT VERY LOUD PLANE STILL ALL HANDCUFFED AND SHACKLED.  Over to surry we went. got off  at some big airport didn&#8217;t tell is which one and  into another van  these guys were alot nicer they gave each of us one of those gray thin wool blankets so we could sit on them or try to keep warm.. As cold as I was I had to choose sitting on it with not enough  meat  on my behind  I  discovered  two new bones  that I didn&#8217;t know were even there.and off to surrey pretrial maximum security prison I went I wonder what that cost the tax payers  and then it was about 8 days later and they said I was free to go  gave me back the clothes I was wearing when I  got  arrested  and pointed at the stairs so I went up them and when I got to the top there was this guy sitting in like a toll booth and he pointed to the door on the right  behind him  and when I went through it found myself outside  locked out  because it&#8217;s his job  to make sure only  people that  have passes  or what ever get in. And a bunch  of signs all around  saying stuff like  NO VISITORS  tresspassers would be prosicuted to  the fullest  the law will allow  IF YOU ARE A PERSON  JUST RELEASED YOUR REQUIRED TO LEAVE THE PROPERTY IMMEDIATLY OR YOU&#8217;LL BE CHARGED  AND IMPRISIONED. i WAS LIKE WHAT THE @%#&amp;  HOW AM i GOING TO GET  HOME but kept on going  I wasn&#8217;t going back in. OOPS A LITTLE VENTING  THERE THANKS FOR LISTENING&#8230;       But  back to my kid  he won&#8217;t lift a finger around here  doesn&#8217;t pay me for his  cell phone bill in my name or pay his room and board I go  buy groceries like $500. at once because  it&#8217;s very rare that somebody  comes around  with a licence and I&#8217;ve already lost 5 or 6 vehicles to the impound for people  driving them  without a licence. So he invites abunch of friends over for about 3 days in a row  till it&#8217;s all gone.I have been asking him to leave since Dec.08 it&#8217;s march 09 and he still hasent left!!! what can I do PLEASE  HELP</p>
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		<title>By: GenX reality</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/02/12/a-generation-of-failure/comment-page-2/#comment-83813</link>
		<dc:creator>GenX reality</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 09:13:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I must agree with MJM the baby boomer although i am a over educated GenX.
I was the first in my family to ever get a university degree and I worked my butt off to pay off OSAP which i regret taking to this day! I think GenX people are so into themselves sometime it kills me, and I hope we do learn a good lesson out of this.
All my GenX friends are loaded with debt that its scary. They have all bought a condo or home, racked up credit card bills, drive new cars and they do all this without the fear or thinking about the consequences. I make over 200K a year and I am still scared to buy a house and I see my friends doing it with less than 50K salaries... My friends tell me I am crazy for saving so much money, that i should invest in mutual funds, buy a home, etc.., All I know is that money is the root of a lot of stresses!!! I intend to save till the day I can buy a house I like outright because I know that if I dont have to pay the bank, its more money every month for me to go eat out 3times a week! if I lose my job and still own the house with no debts, I can always work at McD&#039;s and still eat comfortably!!! No Debt, No Stress!!! another good thing about NO debt, you can always tell your employer F-OFF!
Anyways, there is more to learn from baby boomers than the GenX, if you dont believe me, just look at what your parents did for you!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must agree with MJM the baby boomer although i am a over educated GenX.<br />
I was the first in my family to ever get a university degree and I worked my butt off to pay off OSAP which i regret taking to this day! I think GenX people are so into themselves sometime it kills me, and I hope we do learn a good lesson out of this.<br />
All my GenX friends are loaded with debt that its scary. They have all bought a condo or home, racked up credit card bills, drive new cars and they do all this without the fear or thinking about the consequences. I make over 200K a year and I am still scared to buy a house and I see my friends doing it with less than 50K salaries&#8230; My friends tell me I am crazy for saving so much money, that i should invest in mutual funds, buy a home, etc.., All I know is that money is the root of a lot of stresses!!! I intend to save till the day I can buy a house I like outright because I know that if I dont have to pay the bank, its more money every month for me to go eat out 3times a week! if I lose my job and still own the house with no debts, I can always work at McD&#8217;s and still eat comfortably!!! No Debt, No Stress!!! another good thing about NO debt, you can always tell your employer F-OFF!<br />
Anyways, there is more to learn from baby boomers than the GenX, if you dont believe me, just look at what your parents did for you!!!</p>
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		<title>By: peterpumpkin80</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/02/12/a-generation-of-failure/comment-page-1/#comment-83812</link>
		<dc:creator>peterpumpkin80</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 04:22:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I couldn&#039;t stop laughing about the reference to the early 90s flashback.  I am hopeful we have more breathing room and resources (people, capital flexibility, government fiscal room) that we can avoide the
 &quot;L&quot; the US and UK are facing.  As an ex-Recruiter I can tell that those overqualified back office employees are headed for new careers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I couldn&#8217;t stop laughing about the reference to the early 90s flashback.  I am hopeful we have more breathing room and resources (people, capital flexibility, government fiscal room) that we can avoide the<br />
 &#8220;L&#8221; the US and UK are facing.  As an ex-Recruiter I can tell that those overqualified back office employees are headed for new careers.</p>
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		<title>By: Crystal Mutter</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/02/12/a-generation-of-failure/comment-page-2/#comment-83811</link>
		<dc:creator>Crystal Mutter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 07:42:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow!  I don&#039;t think there&#039;s any need for name calling.

I think the problem here is differences. Baby Boomers and Generation Xers could not be more different.
Baby Boomers value experience and money. Gen Xers value education and time. No one way is &#039;right&#039;.
I would say we each have something to learn from each other. But from my vantage point (as a Gen Xer) I see that we do have a difficult road ahead. We&#039;ve had three recessions in our lifetime. We are the most educated generation in history. And, most of us aren&#039;t working at decent jobs. The simple fact is that 1/3 of Canadians are Boomers. And I hate to &quot;whine&quot;, but we are the minority, we are the under-dogs, and we are at the bottom of the barrel until the Boomers retire. BYE BYE!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow!  I don&#8217;t think there&#8217;s any need for name calling.</p>
<p>I think the problem here is differences. Baby Boomers and Generation Xers could not be more different.<br />
Baby Boomers value experience and money. Gen Xers value education and time. No one way is &#8216;right&#8217;.<br />
I would say we each have something to learn from each other. But from my vantage point (as a Gen Xer) I see that we do have a difficult road ahead. We&#8217;ve had three recessions in our lifetime. We are the most educated generation in history. And, most of us aren&#8217;t working at decent jobs. The simple fact is that 1/3 of Canadians are Boomers. And I hate to &#8220;whine&#8221;, but we are the minority, we are the under-dogs, and we are at the bottom of the barrel until the Boomers retire. BYE BYE!!!</p>
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		<title>By: MJM</title>
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		<dc:creator>MJM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 14:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As one of those baby boomers that seem to be the target of most of the nasty comments on this article I must protest - I got my university education in the 1970&#039;s and it was not easier (I paid for my education through multiple jobs most at the minimum wage of about $2.50/hour) and while my friends were heading off to ski weekends I was working, working working.  I did my graduate degree after working and saving for 10 years so that I would not go into debt.  And during that time I did not go on holidays.  I moved numerous times because that is where the jobs were.  I didn&#039;t buy my house until I was 38 years old and with a downpayment that I saved and I didn&#039;t buy a huge 3,000 square foot house but a 1950&#039;s bungalow that I&#039;m still in.  My friends insisted that their children would have a &#039;better&#039; life which included annual 2 week holidays in Mexico at 5 star resorts (and which the children now just can&#039;t do without and instead of saving the &#039;children&#039; put it on their credit cards and pay the minimum).  I didn&#039;t own a car until I was in my early 30&#039;s (have you ever walked through the student parking lot of a university or college - nice new cars  - newer and more expensive than the one I currently own!).  But my house is totally renovated and I owe nothing on it, by ivnesting in my educaton without going into debt (which is still possible if you are prepared to give up things - like eating out two or three times a week) I have a great income; I don&#039;t take a huge vacation every year - more likely every two or three years but it is all paid before I step on the plane; and while my RRSP and other investments have been hit,  I have been through the recessions of the 1970&#039;s, the 1980&#039;s, the dot.com bust of 2000 and the 9-11 attacks - all have turned around and if you don&#039;t have huge debt loads and have invested in companies that actually make needed products, they will also turn around.

Having said all that, I do feel sorry for the younger generations because they simply have been told by multiple sources that they are special and unique and that they deserve everything because they exist - their parents, their schools, and their politicans have told them this - its not true, but that never stopped anyone before.  Yes living in your mom&#039;s basement is sad, but if you are 25 you can work 2 or 3 jobs to pay off your debts and save money - but whining is not going to change things, particularly if you choose to spend all your money on games for your Playstation.  And parents you need to kick your 25 year old out of the house - he may have to share accommodation with some others and set some priorities, but in the end it is the basic lessons that were not learned previously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As one of those baby boomers that seem to be the target of most of the nasty comments on this article I must protest &#8211; I got my university education in the 1970&#8242;s and it was not easier (I paid for my education through multiple jobs most at the minimum wage of about $2.50/hour) and while my friends were heading off to ski weekends I was working, working working.  I did my graduate degree after working and saving for 10 years so that I would not go into debt.  And during that time I did not go on holidays.  I moved numerous times because that is where the jobs were.  I didn&#8217;t buy my house until I was 38 years old and with a downpayment that I saved and I didn&#8217;t buy a huge 3,000 square foot house but a 1950&#8242;s bungalow that I&#8217;m still in.  My friends insisted that their children would have a &#8216;better&#8217; life which included annual 2 week holidays in Mexico at 5 star resorts (and which the children now just can&#8217;t do without and instead of saving the &#8216;children&#8217; put it on their credit cards and pay the minimum).  I didn&#8217;t own a car until I was in my early 30&#8242;s (have you ever walked through the student parking lot of a university or college &#8211; nice new cars  &#8211; newer and more expensive than the one I currently own!).  But my house is totally renovated and I owe nothing on it, by ivnesting in my educaton without going into debt (which is still possible if you are prepared to give up things &#8211; like eating out two or three times a week) I have a great income; I don&#8217;t take a huge vacation every year &#8211; more likely every two or three years but it is all paid before I step on the plane; and while my RRSP and other investments have been hit,  I have been through the recessions of the 1970&#8242;s, the 1980&#8242;s, the dot.com bust of 2000 and the 9-11 attacks &#8211; all have turned around and if you don&#8217;t have huge debt loads and have invested in companies that actually make needed products, they will also turn around.</p>
<p>Having said all that, I do feel sorry for the younger generations because they simply have been told by multiple sources that they are special and unique and that they deserve everything because they exist &#8211; their parents, their schools, and their politicans have told them this &#8211; its not true, but that never stopped anyone before.  Yes living in your mom&#8217;s basement is sad, but if you are 25 you can work 2 or 3 jobs to pay off your debts and save money &#8211; but whining is not going to change things, particularly if you choose to spend all your money on games for your Playstation.  And parents you need to kick your 25 year old out of the house &#8211; he may have to share accommodation with some others and set some priorities, but in the end it is the basic lessons that were not learned previously.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/02/12/a-generation-of-failure/comment-page-1/#comment-83809</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 15:57:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My biggest issue with this entire article is in the first three sentences. Mr. Kirby more than implies that working at McDonald&#039;s, as a teenager, is a lousy job. Perhaps Mr. Kirby had the benefit of wealthy parents or some type of trust fund which allowed him to skip the rite of having a job as a teenager. Perhaps he worked in a different sector that employs teenagers such as retail. Maybe he even worked under the arches for a time and wasn&#039;t very good at his job. But to say that McDonald&#039;s is a lousy job for a teenager is so far a stretch from the truth that it seriously casts doubt on the accuracy of the rest of the article. When I was a teen I spent a quite a few years there throughout school. NONE of my friends that worked elsewhere, either in retail or a competing fast food join, had the flexibility that I did. McDonald&#039;s is one of Canada&#039;s largest employers and probably has one of the best training programs developed for any company. Mr. Kirby should choose his words more carefully.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My biggest issue with this entire article is in the first three sentences. Mr. Kirby more than implies that working at McDonald&#8217;s, as a teenager, is a lousy job. Perhaps Mr. Kirby had the benefit of wealthy parents or some type of trust fund which allowed him to skip the rite of having a job as a teenager. Perhaps he worked in a different sector that employs teenagers such as retail. Maybe he even worked under the arches for a time and wasn&#8217;t very good at his job. But to say that McDonald&#8217;s is a lousy job for a teenager is so far a stretch from the truth that it seriously casts doubt on the accuracy of the rest of the article. When I was a teen I spent a quite a few years there throughout school. NONE of my friends that worked elsewhere, either in retail or a competing fast food join, had the flexibility that I did. McDonald&#8217;s is one of Canada&#8217;s largest employers and probably has one of the best training programs developed for any company. Mr. Kirby should choose his words more carefully.</p>
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		<title>By: Cami Guy</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/02/12/a-generation-of-failure/comment-page-1/#comment-83808</link>
		<dc:creator>Cami Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 01:17:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having worked at Cami with Joe and Kate,  I can say that things didn&#039;t really happen as they&#039;d like you to believe. Anyone who went into Cami thinking they had a secure job for life is nuts. And there was plenty of notice and warning. This gave us lots of time to look at alternatives and make decisions. Those of us who were smart made plans, got off our tails and either took the opportunity to go back to school or get further training, or we found other jobs. Others simply refused to believe reality to the bitter end, then when it happened, they wanted everyone to have pity on them and they blamed everyone else for their position.

This is the real world. Not some fantasy land. Nothing is guaranteed, well almost nothing. Nobody is going to walk up and just give you handouts. What we have here is not a failure of a generation, but rather a failure of two individuals who failed to plan, and then chose to wallow in their own self pity. It should be made clear that these two do not speak for the majority of workers at Cami or elsewhere who have found themselves in this position.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having worked at Cami with Joe and Kate,  I can say that things didn&#8217;t really happen as they&#8217;d like you to believe. Anyone who went into Cami thinking they had a secure job for life is nuts. And there was plenty of notice and warning. This gave us lots of time to look at alternatives and make decisions. Those of us who were smart made plans, got off our tails and either took the opportunity to go back to school or get further training, or we found other jobs. Others simply refused to believe reality to the bitter end, then when it happened, they wanted everyone to have pity on them and they blamed everyone else for their position.</p>
<p>This is the real world. Not some fantasy land. Nothing is guaranteed, well almost nothing. Nobody is going to walk up and just give you handouts. What we have here is not a failure of a generation, but rather a failure of two individuals who failed to plan, and then chose to wallow in their own self pity. It should be made clear that these two do not speak for the majority of workers at Cami or elsewhere who have found themselves in this position.</p>
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		<title>By: Educated and Secure</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/02/12/a-generation-of-failure/comment-page-1/#comment-83807</link>
		<dc:creator>Educated and Secure</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 23:37:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So let me get this straight... This guy is 36, has struggled through meaningless jobs since high school and has never once thought about getting some skills or an education? And MacLean&#039;s uses him as a poster child for the state of the economy? Come on. Joe&#039;s a product of his environment, and his lack of motivation to exceed. So then he gets handed a job on a factory line and expects that he&#039;s set for life and doesn&#039;t have to worry about improving himself? Now he blames the economy, Cami, and anyone else he can for his situation. He needs to do some real soul searching. And why on earth would he bring another child into the world when he already has three, which I certainly hope he&#039;s paying support for? Oh ya, government benefits... Buys more smokes.

Joe says everyone he knows is in the same position. That&#039;s interesting company he keeps. Most of the people I know have decent jobs and make a decent living, and have worked hard to get where they are. Like myself, these people constantly seek to improve themselves and their positions. Something Joe has apparently decided is not important.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So let me get this straight&#8230; This guy is 36, has struggled through meaningless jobs since high school and has never once thought about getting some skills or an education? And MacLean&#8217;s uses him as a poster child for the state of the economy? Come on. Joe&#8217;s a product of his environment, and his lack of motivation to exceed. So then he gets handed a job on a factory line and expects that he&#8217;s set for life and doesn&#8217;t have to worry about improving himself? Now he blames the economy, Cami, and anyone else he can for his situation. He needs to do some real soul searching. And why on earth would he bring another child into the world when he already has three, which I certainly hope he&#8217;s paying support for? Oh ya, government benefits&#8230; Buys more smokes.</p>
<p>Joe says everyone he knows is in the same position. That&#8217;s interesting company he keeps. Most of the people I know have decent jobs and make a decent living, and have worked hard to get where they are. Like myself, these people constantly seek to improve themselves and their positions. Something Joe has apparently decided is not important.</p>
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		<title>By: momof3</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/02/12/a-generation-of-failure/comment-page-1/#comment-83806</link>
		<dc:creator>momof3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 22:27:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this article sounds like a self absorbed victim feeling sorry for himself like he has done his whole life. Meets Kate at work, leaves his wife and three children under the age of three, moves in with Kate (who&#039;s house it actually is), and has another baby?  Get real.  How about taking opportunities where they are offered, such as getting retrained through EI?
Kate&#039;s struggling to raise their family? Try raising three kids under three by yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this article sounds like a self absorbed victim feeling sorry for himself like he has done his whole life. Meets Kate at work, leaves his wife and three children under the age of three, moves in with Kate (who&#8217;s house it actually is), and has another baby?  Get real.  How about taking opportunities where they are offered, such as getting retrained through EI?<br />
Kate&#8217;s struggling to raise their family? Try raising three kids under three by yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: marvell</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/02/12/a-generation-of-failure/comment-page-1/#comment-83805</link>
		<dc:creator>marvell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 17:47:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mass immigration lowers wage rates for everyone, including the skilled, creates  job competition especially for the unskilled, increases housing costs  for everyone, and adds zero net economic benefit to the economy (see George Borjas&#039;s work) - all economic benefits going to the immigrants themselves.  Well, duh..... ..

Canadian fatuousness about immigration is reaping its rewards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mass immigration lowers wage rates for everyone, including the skilled, creates  job competition especially for the unskilled, increases housing costs  for everyone, and adds zero net economic benefit to the economy (see George Borjas&#8217;s work) &#8211; all economic benefits going to the immigrants themselves.  Well, duh&#8230;.. ..</p>
<p>Canadian fatuousness about immigration is reaping its rewards.</p>
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		<title>By: Marnie</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/02/12/a-generation-of-failure/comment-page-1/#comment-83804</link>
		<dc:creator>Marnie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 14:48:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bryan - it is all about attitude and you obviously have it.  It would be a refreshing privilege to hire you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bryan &#8211; it is all about attitude and you obviously have it.  It would be a refreshing privilege to hire you.</p>
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		<title>By: andrew</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/02/12/a-generation-of-failure/comment-page-1/#comment-83803</link>
		<dc:creator>andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 16:10:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Enough with the generational &quot;analysis&quot;.</description>
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		<title>By: Shenping</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/02/12/a-generation-of-failure/comment-page-1/#comment-83802</link>
		<dc:creator>Shenping</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 22:16:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No U txt Urslf ROTFLMAO</description>
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		<title>By: Shenping</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/02/12/a-generation-of-failure/comment-page-1/#comment-83801</link>
		<dc:creator>Shenping</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 22:14:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, being a senior and all, you probably have easy access to anxiety medication &amp; anger management counselling.  The first step is admitting you have a problem.  You don&#039;t want to die an angry old man, and all that gnashing is hard on the false teeth.

I&#039;ve heard of flash bulbs, bud never a flash bud.  Maybe it&#039;s a flower that blooms rapidly.  Thanks for thinking of us and sending us flowers.  If you wanted to use &quot;bud&quot; to refer to GX&#039;er, you should have put a comma after flash.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, being a senior and all, you probably have easy access to anxiety medication &amp; anger management counselling.  The first step is admitting you have a problem.  You don&#8217;t want to die an angry old man, and all that gnashing is hard on the false teeth.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve heard of flash bulbs, bud never a flash bud.  Maybe it&#8217;s a flower that blooms rapidly.  Thanks for thinking of us and sending us flowers.  If you wanted to use &#8220;bud&#8221; to refer to GX&#8217;er, you should have put a comma after flash.</p>
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		<title>By: Shenping</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/02/12/a-generation-of-failure/comment-page-1/#comment-83800</link>
		<dc:creator>Shenping</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 22:08:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wasn&#039;t aware I had a puse rate of any kind, detectable or otherwise.

By the way, CMHC started in 1946.  Boomer-age home buyers didn&#039;t have to work for a 20% down payment in this country.  (Down payment is two words, by the way.)  It was the parents of the boomers who had to save twenty percent.

Being a technically literate Gen-X&#039;er, I was able to Google the above fact.  But I&#039;d better stop posting and get back to my full-time job so that  I&#039;m done on time to get to one of my two part-time jobs.  Txt u l8tr.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wasn&#8217;t aware I had a puse rate of any kind, detectable or otherwise.</p>
<p>By the way, CMHC started in 1946.  Boomer-age home buyers didn&#8217;t have to work for a 20% down payment in this country.  (Down payment is two words, by the way.)  It was the parents of the boomers who had to save twenty percent.</p>
<p>Being a technically literate Gen-X&#8217;er, I was able to Google the above fact.  But I&#8217;d better stop posting and get back to my full-time job so that  I&#8217;m done on time to get to one of my two part-time jobs.  Txt u l8tr.</p>
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		<title>By: Shenping</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/02/12/a-generation-of-failure/comment-page-1/#comment-83799</link>
		<dc:creator>Shenping</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 21:53:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you&#039;re so hard-working and motivated, wm,  why are there three spelling errors and a run-on sentence in this post?  Didn&#039;t you pay attention in school?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you&#8217;re so hard-working and motivated, wm,  why are there three spelling errors and a run-on sentence in this post?  Didn&#8217;t you pay attention in school?</p>
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		<title>By: Shenping</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/02/12/a-generation-of-failure/comment-page-1/#comment-83798</link>
		<dc:creator>Shenping</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 21:47:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>15%?  Your lucky.  They dropped 40% in mine.</description>
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		<title>By: wayne moores</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/02/12/a-generation-of-failure/comment-page-1/#comment-83797</link>
		<dc:creator>wayne moores</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 21:05:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I said the only mistake they made was indulging their children. Spending thousands to send them to hockey camps and other such nonsense in the summer instead of to work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I said the only mistake they made was indulging their children. Spending thousands to send them to hockey camps and other such nonsense in the summer instead of to work.</p>
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		<title>By: wayne moores</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/02/12/a-generation-of-failure/comment-page-1/#comment-83796</link>
		<dc:creator>wayne moores</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 21:03:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh so that the problem. Daddy didn&#039;t leave you an inheritance to live off. Boo Hoo. Here&#039;s a flash bud, know how many boomers inherited anything from their parents. Somewhere in the range of .00001%. God you are pathetic. And by the way, a lot of the wonderful &quot;creative investment instuments&quot; troted out on wall st. the last few years were the work of the new  &quot;wiz kids&quot; on the block, not boomers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh so that the problem. Daddy didn&#8217;t leave you an inheritance to live off. Boo Hoo. Here&#8217;s a flash bud, know how many boomers inherited anything from their parents. Somewhere in the range of .00001%. God you are pathetic. And by the way, a lot of the wonderful &#8220;creative investment instuments&#8221; troted out on wall st. the last few years were the work of the new  &#8220;wiz kids&#8221; on the block, not boomers.</p>
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		<title>By: wayne moores</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/02/12/a-generation-of-failure/comment-page-1/#comment-83795</link>
		<dc:creator>wayne moores</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 20:58:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t forget bud, most of the &quot;evil baby boomers&quot; built this country, it&#039;s economy and it&#039;s standard of living you think your entitled to just because you have a detectable puse rate. The vast majority of this generation you seem to hate so much worked at mills and assembly lines at jobs that you would turn your nose up at. Lived in very modest homes, never had a credit card, worked for years to get a 20% downpayment on a very modest home and maybe after 10 years in the workforce got a chevy. You bunch think a corner office with a view and a new car should be handed to you on graduation. The only mistake boomers made was too often indulging their children at grauation with aforementioned car. Quite often with tragic results. We avoided that trap, both our boys work hard at very unglamorious jobs without complaint, pay their own frieght and i&#039;m sure in the end will do ok. Far better that the indulged crowd here cursing their fate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t forget bud, most of the &#8220;evil baby boomers&#8221; built this country, it&#8217;s economy and it&#8217;s standard of living you think your entitled to just because you have a detectable puse rate. The vast majority of this generation you seem to hate so much worked at mills and assembly lines at jobs that you would turn your nose up at. Lived in very modest homes, never had a credit card, worked for years to get a 20% downpayment on a very modest home and maybe after 10 years in the workforce got a chevy. You bunch think a corner office with a view and a new car should be handed to you on graduation. The only mistake boomers made was too often indulging their children at grauation with aforementioned car. Quite often with tragic results. We avoided that trap, both our boys work hard at very unglamorious jobs without complaint, pay their own frieght and i&#8217;m sure in the end will do ok. Far better that the indulged crowd here cursing their fate.</p>
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		<title>By: wayne moores</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/02/12/a-generation-of-failure/comment-page-1/#comment-83794</link>
		<dc:creator>wayne moores</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 20:45:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We would, but we can&#039;t and you brat&#039;s are to lazy and incompitant to do the jobs. CHEERS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We would, but we can&#8217;t and you brat&#8217;s are to lazy and incompitant to do the jobs. CHEERS.</p>
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		<title>By: wayne moores</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/02/12/a-generation-of-failure/comment-page-1/#comment-83793</link>
		<dc:creator>wayne moores</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 20:40:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim, you are dead bang on.  What  Gen X doesn&#039;t understand is that it wasn&#039;t the baby boom generation&#039;s fault. This attack on the middle glass started long before they were born. They live under the illusion that all boomers had it all handed to them. Wrong. You had a pretty good shot at a decent life if you were at the front end of the baby boom. If you started out at the other end like I did, not so much. When I graduated from S.F.X. I was hit by the first shake down of the middle class. It was called a recession but looking back I know what was going on. Everytime there was a recession it was a good excuse to ship millions of jobs offshore so the greedheads could make even more obscene profits. When I came on the market there was just about a total hiring freeze everywhere and the front end of the baby boom was barely halfway to retirement. Eventually I clawed my way into the middle class in time to watch middle class incomes rise by 54 dollars over a 25 year period. Wow, lucky privlidged me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim, you are dead bang on.  What  Gen X doesn&#8217;t understand is that it wasn&#8217;t the baby boom generation&#8217;s fault. This attack on the middle glass started long before they were born. They live under the illusion that all boomers had it all handed to them. Wrong. You had a pretty good shot at a decent life if you were at the front end of the baby boom. If you started out at the other end like I did, not so much. When I graduated from S.F.X. I was hit by the first shake down of the middle class. It was called a recession but looking back I know what was going on. Everytime there was a recession it was a good excuse to ship millions of jobs offshore so the greedheads could make even more obscene profits. When I came on the market there was just about a total hiring freeze everywhere and the front end of the baby boom was barely halfway to retirement. Eventually I clawed my way into the middle class in time to watch middle class incomes rise by 54 dollars over a 25 year period. Wow, lucky privlidged me.</p>
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		<title>By: wayne moores</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/02/12/a-generation-of-failure/comment-page-1/#comment-83792</link>
		<dc:creator>wayne moores</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 20:27:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Go text message yourself.</description>
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		<title>By: quelips</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/02/12/a-generation-of-failure/comment-page-1/#comment-83791</link>
		<dc:creator>quelips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 14:12:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps it is unfair to blame the boomers for the past and whats led up to the current situation.  But when you look at the problems of the present day, it is hard to feel much pity for them as they seem, as a generation, to not really care that much as is evidenced by the politics of recent years.  As one third of the canadian population, they hold the vote, which is why the most popular subject each election is healthcare followed closely by economic issues that have more to do with shrinking portfolios than job creation or building a future canada (ie green jobs, public investment).  I reproach the boomers of today who cling to yesterday&#039;s views of consumption without consequence, and a serious lack of vision for the future of Canada.  Want proof?
How much in the last 30 years has been invested in:
infrastructure? - our cities are crumbling
transportation?- interurbain trains and city public transportation has not changed in my lifetime
tuition? - actually we&#039;ve seen a scale back in investment and massive increases
money? - students have staggering student loans with ridiculous interest rates and no chance to declare bankruptcy if overwhelmed  and we pay more for bank services with less service
Add to this the coup de gras - they changed the retirement age so they could keep working and more often than not, in economic downturns, it&#039;s the young workers who lose their jobs.

Us younger workers are victims of demography, and it is sad, cause they always tell us to get involved, go out and vote, create your own job opportunities but its like running up a muddy hill.  And it&#039;s going to get a lot muddier with bailouts to keep a failing system and retirement portfolios alive that we, the younger workers, will pay for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps it is unfair to blame the boomers for the past and whats led up to the current situation.  But when you look at the problems of the present day, it is hard to feel much pity for them as they seem, as a generation, to not really care that much as is evidenced by the politics of recent years.  As one third of the canadian population, they hold the vote, which is why the most popular subject each election is healthcare followed closely by economic issues that have more to do with shrinking portfolios than job creation or building a future canada (ie green jobs, public investment).  I reproach the boomers of today who cling to yesterday&#8217;s views of consumption without consequence, and a serious lack of vision for the future of Canada.  Want proof?<br />
How much in the last 30 years has been invested in:<br />
infrastructure? &#8211; our cities are crumbling<br />
transportation?- interurbain trains and city public transportation has not changed in my lifetime<br />
tuition? &#8211; actually we&#8217;ve seen a scale back in investment and massive increases<br />
money? &#8211; students have staggering student loans with ridiculous interest rates and no chance to declare bankruptcy if overwhelmed  and we pay more for bank services with less service<br />
Add to this the coup de gras &#8211; they changed the retirement age so they could keep working and more often than not, in economic downturns, it&#8217;s the young workers who lose their jobs.</p>
<p>Us younger workers are victims of demography, and it is sad, cause they always tell us to get involved, go out and vote, create your own job opportunities but its like running up a muddy hill.  And it&#8217;s going to get a lot muddier with bailouts to keep a failing system and retirement portfolios alive that we, the younger workers, will pay for.</p>
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		<title>By: wayne moores</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/02/12/a-generation-of-failure/comment-page-1/#comment-83790</link>
		<dc:creator>wayne moores</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 22:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your going to the States for jobs? Really? WTF. Did you get a job on Obama&#039;s team or something? I can&#039;t think of a single industry in the States that&#039;s in any better shape than here. Well when you get to the land of milk and honey you will be very fortunate. You will be able to pick up forclosed on homes that were once 300 grand and now the banks can&#039;t unload them for 100 grand. That is if the bank is still in business. That reminds me. Be careful which bank you put your money in down there. Their banking system is a little, shall we say, more dodgie than here. Oh and by the way, there is a baby boom generation there as well. They invented the term. Also my dear, the baby boom generation didn&#039;t steal your future. It was, for the most part your generation of wiz kids that invented all those &quot;creative financial instuments&quot; that have caused the current meltdown and  most boomers were not involved with. Most boomers spent their lives living sensibly, without credit cards, slogging it out at mills and assembly lines, doing the heavy lifting. Jobs the current brood of spoiled brats would turn their noses up at. Those jobs paid ok because people were tired of working for 16 cents an hour(like my grandfather who was put to work in a mine at age 11), went on strike,were beat up by company goons, stood their ground, and in doing so raised everyone&#039;s standard of living far more than any &quot;dotcom wiz kid&quot; ever did. Frankly, in too many cases, the current generation&#039;s idea of a work ethic sucks.  The myth of every boomer on easy street is just that, a myth. When I entered the workforce I had two degrees and my first job was unloading tractor trailers. Boy, when I landed that job I just knew I was on easy street. Ya, right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your going to the States for jobs? Really? WTF. Did you get a job on Obama&#8217;s team or something? I can&#8217;t think of a single industry in the States that&#8217;s in any better shape than here. Well when you get to the land of milk and honey you will be very fortunate. You will be able to pick up forclosed on homes that were once 300 grand and now the banks can&#8217;t unload them for 100 grand. That is if the bank is still in business. That reminds me. Be careful which bank you put your money in down there. Their banking system is a little, shall we say, more dodgie than here. Oh and by the way, there is a baby boom generation there as well. They invented the term. Also my dear, the baby boom generation didn&#8217;t steal your future. It was, for the most part your generation of wiz kids that invented all those &#8220;creative financial instuments&#8221; that have caused the current meltdown and  most boomers were not involved with. Most boomers spent their lives living sensibly, without credit cards, slogging it out at mills and assembly lines, doing the heavy lifting. Jobs the current brood of spoiled brats would turn their noses up at. Those jobs paid ok because people were tired of working for 16 cents an hour(like my grandfather who was put to work in a mine at age 11), went on strike,were beat up by company goons, stood their ground, and in doing so raised everyone&#8217;s standard of living far more than any &#8220;dotcom wiz kid&#8221; ever did. Frankly, in too many cases, the current generation&#8217;s idea of a work ethic sucks.  The myth of every boomer on easy street is just that, a myth. When I entered the workforce I had two degrees and my first job was unloading tractor trailers. Boy, when I landed that job I just knew I was on easy street. Ya, right.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/02/12/a-generation-of-failure/comment-page-1/#comment-83789</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 20:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe he just wants to be like Obama. Besides, he lives near six nations where you can buy a carton for about $8.00.</description>
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		<title>By: Gen X'er</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/02/12/a-generation-of-failure/comment-page-1/#comment-83788</link>
		<dc:creator>Gen X'er</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 14:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, all is okay as long as the boomers worked hard while ruining the world?

Give me a break.  All the Gen X&#039;ers I know work very hard too.

I have no debt and no sense of entitlement.   I have my parents&#039; work ethic.  Unfortunately, it doesn&#039;t mean the same as it used to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, all is okay as long as the boomers worked hard while ruining the world?</p>
<p>Give me a break.  All the Gen X&#8217;ers I know work very hard too.</p>
<p>I have no debt and no sense of entitlement.   I have my parents&#8217; work ethic.  Unfortunately, it doesn&#8217;t mean the same as it used to.</p>
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		<title>By: Regina</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/02/12/a-generation-of-failure/comment-page-1/#comment-83787</link>
		<dc:creator>Regina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 12:57:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes the picture in the magazine showed him smoking- loved it. And as a former smoker, I say what I said because I can now afford to pay for a car lease each month instead of smoking. Its hard to quit, but whats more important here?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes the picture in the magazine showed him smoking- loved it. And as a former smoker, I say what I said because I can now afford to pay for a car lease each month instead of smoking. Its hard to quit, but whats more important here?</p>
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		<title>By: bryan</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/02/12/a-generation-of-failure/comment-page-1/#comment-83786</link>
		<dc:creator>bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 04:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sorry to ramble but I also think that doing with less is something we may as well get used to. I think we will all be happier and &quot;wealthier&quot; in the long run. I have had on hold any ideas of a giant new house (along with the mortgage and taxes) for many years. Vacations would be nice, as would the newest car and all the toys. But if that is what makes you successful then enjoy being broke or working you a** off to get it.

     P.S. I am debt free and make what I consider a decent wage but I have gotten there through hard work (though not as hard as my parents and company), common sense spending, and avoiding keeping up with the jones&#039;s. Try it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sorry to ramble but I also think that doing with less is something we may as well get used to. I think we will all be happier and &#8220;wealthier&#8221; in the long run. I have had on hold any ideas of a giant new house (along with the mortgage and taxes) for many years. Vacations would be nice, as would the newest car and all the toys. But if that is what makes you successful then enjoy being broke or working you a** off to get it.</p>
<p>     P.S. I am debt free and make what I consider a decent wage but I have gotten there through hard work (though not as hard as my parents and company), common sense spending, and avoiding keeping up with the jones&#8217;s. Try it.</p>
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		<title>By: bryan</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/02/12/a-generation-of-failure/comment-page-1/#comment-83785</link>
		<dc:creator>bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 04:12:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry but all these whining gen x-ers are making me sick. I am a gen x-er and am tired of the blame game. We can blame the boomers for a lot of things but we love the ease and comforts that hurt the economy and environment as much or more than they do. At least they have worked hard for their excessive and harmful ways. Most of my gen X coworkers don&#039;t realize that hard work and not entitlement get you the lifestyle you want. My generation and more so the newbies expect the benefits without all the work of getting there. When you all show up and do a good days work instead of using the sick time to cover your headache or hangover or just cause it&#039;s a nice weekend then we can be a competitive and professional workforce that is entitled to make some requests, or just look competitive at the next job interview. I just hope the boomers doing the hiring don&#039;t look at all this whining and paint us with the same brush.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry but all these whining gen x-ers are making me sick. I am a gen x-er and am tired of the blame game. We can blame the boomers for a lot of things but we love the ease and comforts that hurt the economy and environment as much or more than they do. At least they have worked hard for their excessive and harmful ways. Most of my gen X coworkers don&#8217;t realize that hard work and not entitlement get you the lifestyle you want. My generation and more so the newbies expect the benefits without all the work of getting there. When you all show up and do a good days work instead of using the sick time to cover your headache or hangover or just cause it&#8217;s a nice weekend then we can be a competitive and professional workforce that is entitled to make some requests, or just look competitive at the next job interview. I just hope the boomers doing the hiring don&#8217;t look at all this whining and paint us with the same brush.</p>
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		<title>By: Gen X'er</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/02/12/a-generation-of-failure/comment-page-1/#comment-83784</link>
		<dc:creator>Gen X'er</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 01:47:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and by the way.  Mum and dad don&#039;t have any money left to give anyone a hand.  It was squandered away by the greedy baby boomers running Wall Street.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and by the way.  Mum and dad don&#8217;t have any money left to give anyone a hand.  It was squandered away by the greedy baby boomers running Wall Street.</p>
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		<title>By: Kwame</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/02/12/a-generation-of-failure/comment-page-1/#comment-83783</link>
		<dc:creator>Kwame</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 23:42:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Erika - Not everyone wants a government job - so being a page or whatever is meaningless to most (ya, I&#039;m sure the high-tech industry cares about that....). NOT to mention that not everyone lives in Ottawa and has a connection into the parliament of Canada!

Please note that Canada&#039;s private industry is the fuel of Canada - not the government (they just regulate it); so for those that want to contribute to Canada&#039;s economy and innovation it&#039;s difficult to do so without &quot;experience&quot;. Unfortunately, the private industry wants us to have university education, work experience (b/c they don&#039;t want to spend money on training you...they simply want you to produce...) in order for them to employ us.

Your point is meaningless to the VAST majority of hard working YOUNG Canadians!

I wonder if the guy that designed the iPhone got his needed experience from working for Parliament of Canada? Probably not.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Erika &#8211; Not everyone wants a government job &#8211; so being a page or whatever is meaningless to most (ya, I&#8217;m sure the high-tech industry cares about that&#8230;.). NOT to mention that not everyone lives in Ottawa and has a connection into the parliament of Canada!</p>
<p>Please note that Canada&#8217;s private industry is the fuel of Canada &#8211; not the government (they just regulate it); so for those that want to contribute to Canada&#8217;s economy and innovation it&#8217;s difficult to do so without &#8220;experience&#8221;. Unfortunately, the private industry wants us to have university education, work experience (b/c they don&#8217;t want to spend money on training you&#8230;they simply want you to produce&#8230;) in order for them to employ us.</p>
<p>Your point is meaningless to the VAST majority of hard working YOUNG Canadians!</p>
<p>I wonder if the guy that designed the iPhone got his needed experience from working for Parliament of Canada? Probably not&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Gen X'er</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/02/12/a-generation-of-failure/comment-page-1/#comment-83782</link>
		<dc:creator>Gen X'er</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 23:10:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately, due to the elimination of mandatory retirement, Gen X’ers and beyond will be watching and waiting for those diminishing coveted public service sector jobs (and their benefits) while boomers cling onto them for dear life - even though they have access to full company pensions. They’ll never retire claiming there is “no other talent” that can match theirs. They’ve perpetuated the myth that they will leave a “chronic labour shortage”…the most self-centered, selfish generation has left their children and grandchildren a legacy of debt and destruction…and we get to pick up their health care tab to boot…</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, due to the elimination of mandatory retirement, Gen X’ers and beyond will be watching and waiting for those diminishing coveted public service sector jobs (and their benefits) while boomers cling onto them for dear life &#8211; even though they have access to full company pensions. They’ll never retire claiming there is “no other talent” that can match theirs. They’ve perpetuated the myth that they will leave a “chronic labour shortage”…the most self-centered, selfish generation has left their children and grandchildren a legacy of debt and destruction…and we get to pick up their health care tab to boot…</p>
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		<title>By: Gen X'er</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/02/12/a-generation-of-failure/comment-page-1/#comment-83781</link>
		<dc:creator>Gen X'er</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 23:07:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gen X is NOT lazy.  We&#039;re still putting up with the bastards that are the boomers.</description>
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		<title>By: Gen X'er</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/02/12/a-generation-of-failure/comment-page-1/#comment-83780</link>
		<dc:creator>Gen X'er</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 23:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pure drivel from an obvious boomer.   Unfortunately, due to the elimination of mandatory retirement, Gen X&#039;ers and beyond will be watching and waiting for those diminishing coveted public service sector jobs (and their benefits) while boomers cling onto them for dear life - even though they have access to full company pensions.  They&#039;ll never retire claiming there is &quot;no other talent&quot; that can match theirs.   They&#039;ve perpetuated the myth that they will leave a &quot;chronic labour shortage&quot;...the most self-centered, selfish generation has left their children and grandchildren a legacy of debt and destruction...and we get to pick up their health care tab to boot...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pure drivel from an obvious boomer.   Unfortunately, due to the elimination of mandatory retirement, Gen X&#8217;ers and beyond will be watching and waiting for those diminishing coveted public service sector jobs (and their benefits) while boomers cling onto them for dear life &#8211; even though they have access to full company pensions.  They&#8217;ll never retire claiming there is &#8220;no other talent&#8221; that can match theirs.   They&#8217;ve perpetuated the myth that they will leave a &#8220;chronic labour shortage&#8221;&#8230;the most self-centered, selfish generation has left their children and grandchildren a legacy of debt and destruction&#8230;and we get to pick up their health care tab to boot&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Rigby</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/02/12/a-generation-of-failure/comment-page-1/#comment-83779</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Rigby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 22:40:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the magazine there is a picture of him smoking.  That he should quit asap was the first thing I thought of too, but as a non-smoker myself, I likely underestimate just how difficult quitting is (not that that makes it any less necessary in this case).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the magazine there is a picture of him smoking.  That he should quit asap was the first thing I thought of too, but as a non-smoker myself, I likely underestimate just how difficult quitting is (not that that makes it any less necessary in this case).</p>
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		<title>By: Tired of it all...</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tired of it all...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 21:36:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And we know Joe smokes....how?</description>
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		<title>By: Regina</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/02/12/a-generation-of-failure/comment-page-1/#comment-83777</link>
		<dc:creator>Regina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 19:20:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If money for raising little Vivian and making mortage payments is so tight, perhaps the first thing Joe should consider doing is kicking his incredibly expensive smoking habit. Complaining about money troubles but yet there always seems to be cash around for smokes, right Joe?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If money for raising little Vivian and making mortage payments is so tight, perhaps the first thing Joe should consider doing is kicking his incredibly expensive smoking habit. Complaining about money troubles but yet there always seems to be cash around for smokes, right Joe?</p>
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		<title>By: generayburn</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/02/12/a-generation-of-failure/comment-page-1/#comment-83776</link>
		<dc:creator>generayburn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 18:29:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow you sound like a typically self obsessed and impractical boomer. Wasn&#039;t my generation that created this mess.</description>
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		<title>By: keith c.</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/02/12/a-generation-of-failure/comment-page-1/#comment-83775</link>
		<dc:creator>keith c.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 17:43:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you guys sure this isn&#039;t a recycled article from 1993? I remember reading the same thing. Probably in Macleans at my local dentist&#039;s. Early 90s in Canada were terrible and sent a generation of us abroad. It&#039;s too early to say whether this will be as traumatic and long-lasting for young people in Canada. Certainly for 12 months it&#039;ll be that bad. I bet oil snaps back hard and alberta good times return sooner than we think, though hard to say what future awaits southwestern ontario with a dramatically reduced auto industry.

I&#039;ve made my career mostly in Britain and it was the best choice I&#039;ve ever made. opportunities existed here that were unthinkable in Canada, which was crippled maybe forever by Trudeau. Britain&#039;s in deep doodoo now thanks to New Labour replaying almost all of Trudeau&#039;s playbook in 12 years of pissing away the previous generation&#039;s hard work, so the next generation won&#039;t be able to do it again.
The interesting thing in britain is how little schooling you need to get ahead.. i had my BA and just hit the ground running. None of this going back to school again and again getting useless degrees, which seems to be a particularly Canadian affliction and was interesting to read about in this article. Bay Street people are massively overqualified.. people getting CFAs and MBAs to work in the back office at Scotia or a mediocre mutual fund company.. LOL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you guys sure this isn&#8217;t a recycled article from 1993? I remember reading the same thing. Probably in Macleans at my local dentist&#8217;s. Early 90s in Canada were terrible and sent a generation of us abroad. It&#8217;s too early to say whether this will be as traumatic and long-lasting for young people in Canada. Certainly for 12 months it&#8217;ll be that bad. I bet oil snaps back hard and alberta good times return sooner than we think, though hard to say what future awaits southwestern ontario with a dramatically reduced auto industry.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve made my career mostly in Britain and it was the best choice I&#8217;ve ever made. opportunities existed here that were unthinkable in Canada, which was crippled maybe forever by Trudeau. Britain&#8217;s in deep doodoo now thanks to New Labour replaying almost all of Trudeau&#8217;s playbook in 12 years of pissing away the previous generation&#8217;s hard work, so the next generation won&#8217;t be able to do it again.<br />
The interesting thing in britain is how little schooling you need to get ahead.. i had my BA and just hit the ground running. None of this going back to school again and again getting useless degrees, which seems to be a particularly Canadian affliction and was interesting to read about in this article. Bay Street people are massively overqualified.. people getting CFAs and MBAs to work in the back office at Scotia or a mediocre mutual fund company.. LOL.</p>
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