After the O: Liveblogging Michael Ignatieff's post-meeting press conference

by kadyomalley on Thursday, February 19, 2009 5:04pm - 21 Comments

Yoyoyo, ITQians! We have one more Obama-related event to get through, and then I promise it’s back to business as usual, whatever that means. Anyway, apparently the Ignatieff-Obama chinwag went slightly longer than usual — careful, Mr. President, you’re going to miss your flight! — so the presser that was originally scheduled for 5pm will be slightly delayed. I’ll keep y’all posted, so check back regularly.

5:25:25 PM
Well, we’re back on familiar, cosy parliamentary turf – the Charles Lynch Press Theatre, to be exact, which feels awfully homey at the moment. Apparently, the meeting ended at around 5pm, which means that barring any really spectacular traffic tie-ups, Ignatieff should be here by — I dunno, quarter to six? I’ve lost all track of time. I hope he realizes that the general feeling of nervous exhaustion in the room isn’t personal — it’s just been a really long day.
5:34:02 PM

Five minutes, apparently. At least we have Jim Prentice on Newsworld to entertain us in the meantime.

5:39:13 PM
Okay, he’s here, and he looks somewhat ebulliant — he’s sorry he’s late, but the meeting ran late. Meeting? What meeting? Oh — right.

Anyway, they had a substantive discussion – “the president is an excellent listener”, apparently, and listened, excellently, as Ignatieff brought up a laundry list of issues, including protectionism – they’re both ag’inst it – and Afghanistan.

Ignatieff worried that the mission had fallen into strategic drift, and the president told him “quite amusingly” that the White House feels the same way, and Ignatieff assured him that if *he* was in power, the Liberals would help to close down Gitmo.

And he’s read some of Ignatieff’s books. TAKE THAT, HOCKEY BOOK!

5:44:23 PM
I wonder whether Ignatieff is taller than Obama. It’s hard to tell unless you see them standing side by side – lecterns are such an inaccurate measure, since they’re all at different heights.

Right. Press conference. Must focus. The Toronto Star wonders if he brought up the American heebyjeebyism about the border, and scary Canadian interlopers, and it sounds as though Obama is slightly less ridiculously pranoid than, say, the former senator for New York, who even as recently as 2005 was smearing us with the 9/11-terrorist calumny. Sorry, got off track. Anyway, Ignatieff seems to think that Obama will be willing to work together.

5:46:45 PM
More on Afghanistan – Ignatieff told him that he can’t ask Canada to “reup” in this milieu of existential incoherence, and he agreed.

5:47:21 PM
Asked about the Obamagic, Ignatieff waxed erudite, if a teeny bit girlcrushingly – he’s a big presence, a big man. Eloquent, graceful, every bit as dazzling as he was billed.

5:49:13 PM
Obama was “very well briefed on our recent parliamentary crisis” — and he still ventured into the belly of the crazybeast? How — beamish. Calloo, callay.

5:50:19 PM
The eyebrows really are kind of hypnotic, aren’t they?

5:51:13 PM
Apparently, Obama referenced the three D’s – defence, diplomacy and development – which I suspect is the direction that we’re going to go, as far as that whole re-upping thing; Canadians would probably be more than okay with teaching Afghan officials to run elections, and building schools – it’s the military mission that has run its course as far as public support, at least from what I can see.

5:53:45 PM
Last question – is it wrong that I just thought “Yippee!” – on Afghanistan; Tim Naumetz is trying valiantly to nail Ignatieff down on whether he would *ever* support an extension to the mission, but Ignatieff is wily – he notes that he’s been clear on his party’s current position, and suggests that, yes, we should continue to be there in development and diplomacy, but — yeah, Tim is right. Everyone is dancing around the issue, but really, how *can* you answer the question now about what you might do then?

5:55:52 PM
That’s it, that’s all – although the crowd tries for one more question — clean energy! — he holds up his hands and backs out of the room, which is, frankly, fine by ITQ. Our thumbs are sore. We’re signing off for the night – if any of you made it to the end of this post, you deserve one too. Whee! O-Day is O-ver — let the post-O festivities begin!

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  • http://scottdiatribe.canflag.com Scott Tribe

    The President leaves when the President says he wants to leave :)

    Apparently he gave Ignatieff and Rae 30 minutes of his time – very good to hear he didn’t shortchange Igantieff and Rae.

  • knick

    My sense of relief that this ‘layover’ left us with nothing but good feelings is due mostly to the fact that the PM was on his best behaviour today. Notwithstanding some of the peculiar arrangements, it says a lot about the Obama effect that Mr. Harper didn’t feel compelled to take any partisan shots today.

  • Wascally Wabbit

    Iggy sounded pretty pleased with the meet when Don Newman interviewed him…
    And I must say – to one who is still not totally an Iggy fan – made more sense today – and came over in a measured “quasi-statesman-like” way – that was quite impressive!

  • Bonnie N

    President Obama is polite and articulate.

    Now compare this to the usual going’s on in Ottawa – specifically Parliament. And then there is John Baird the biggest talking points monger that speaks so fast we never understand.

    Oh shoot the Baird says nothing – with apologies to Shakespeare.

    And then there’s Jim Prentice, the oil-ish guy, who tries to talk a good game and something about targets with intensity on the carbon thing.

    Same old thing – just new Obama package.

    Get real – they are not stupid in the Obama administration. You will be pushed aside if you pursue your oily tar thing is good and we cannot tmake a compromise.

    Stupid – they are way smarter – you amateurs!

  • Anon

    BravO, Kady. Well dOne.

    Watching Stockwell Day on TV. Poor guy, he was not in the room with O. Looks sad.

  • Sammy

    That was really just painful and arrogant.”He’s read me”…blech!!!!!!!

    • Stephen

      IgnatIeff….putting the “I” back in polItIcs.

  • WDM

    So….do you think he’ll call tomorrow? I hope he calls….I hate it when they don’t call…

  • Wascally Wabbit

    Calloo Callay!
    The Bardesse of the Hill throws out this one…which No-one wants to catch…and then ever daring – launches into a debate concerning the relative heights of podiae..or is it podii?
    Let me go back to basics – Amo, Amas, Amat, amamus…
    But we digress!
    I am still lukewarm to Iggy and his team (no – not the MPs shadowing the flowerpots – I’m referring to the walking dead recuscitated Martinite backroom boys that he seems to be surrounding himself with…)…but Iggy himself actually seems to be buying himself a pont or two in the last few days.

  • Sophie

    5:50:19 PM
    The eyebrows really are kind of hypnotic, aren’t they?

    It’s part of the Liberal brainwashing plan.

    • Wascally Wabbit

      And if you noticed this morning – he now has a new – crisper hairstyle too…
      I HATE it when the handlers start to take over – and image replaces substance – they did it to Cretien – David Peterson is the most egregious example – I used to think he and Mel Lastman had a competition going for the most yellow and artificial suntan….

  • knick

    It kind of feels like it does when the company has gone home happy, with some cookies for good measure; the house is quiet again; and there’s a great sense of relief that the kids didn’t act up. Great job Kady!

  • http://worthwhile.typepad.com Stephen Gordon

    Kady, your efforts today have been simply fabulous. It’s like watching the Newsworld feed, except that it’s much more entertaining, and I don’t have to watch the TV for hours on end. I can now skim through tomorrow’s papers and head right for the comics.

    Brava!

  • Stephen

    Apparently, Obama referenced the three D’s – defence, diplomacy and development – which I suspect is the direction that we’re going to go, as far as that whole re-upping thing; Canadians would probably be more than okay with teaching Afghan officials to run elections, and building schools – it’s the military mission that has run its course as far as public support, at least from what I can see.

    Is it too much to ask that the current Liberal leader explain how two of these D’s could proceed without the third D?

    With reference to the Manley report?

    With reference to Liberal statements–including by Ignatieff–during take-note parliamentary debates on Afghanistan?

    With reference to the “Role of Pride and Influence” documents issued by the Martin Liberal government?

    Frankly, when I see Ignatieff next to the US President, I see the same thing as when I see Harper next to Obama: someone who got Iraq wrong next to someone who got Iraq right.

    Whether on Afghanistan or some other issue, where’s the evidence that Ignatieff has ever shown the judgment or knowledge to be taken seriously on Canadian foreign policy?

  • Tam

    Iggy trimmed his eyebrows. Well, not much help. Still looks wicked, esp. when he smiles. ooooh!

    • MJH

      I thought he looked remarkably like an undertaker.

      • catherine

        Actually, in the shot of Ignatieff and Obama which made it up on Times Square, Ignatieff looks like he could be our Prime Minister.

  • Wayne

    I feel sorry Iggy he is still probably sitting in Hangar 11 wondering what the heck just happened. He needs to think a bit more before he speaks as there are times when he comes off as more arrogant than Harper. I mean really folks the bit about Iggy : I went over the congressional language of the buy america provision to Obama etc… I mean come on man get serious what do you think he doesn’t already know what’s in the bill – get to the point Iggy take a lesson from Stevie boy – get to the point don’t try inflate yourself personally beforehand as it’s trite, obvious and simply not necessary.

  • motor

    After a few hours with Harper, I’m sure Obama was glad to have ‘adult’ conversation.

  • Wascally Wabbit

    someone should run the loop of Obama and PMSH waking back down the red carpet after the Presser!
    Obama – elegant long measured strides….Harper appearing to be running alongside him – like the little teachers pet unctiously trying to brown nose the Prof…
    It’s a classic…find it ITQ – and run it endlessly…

  • serendipitty

    Yo Yo fer the Kady YeoLadies’ good work. Just don’t know how you do it Kady, but it is maaaahvelous!

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