Comments on: The Most Dangerous Cities in Canada: Overall crime score—by rank

By: Gerryhurt

Gerryhurt — Sat, 15 Oct 2011 16:58:00 +0000

and both municipality’s cover a very large area with multiple town centers. So the fact that a “road” is the demarcation between the 2 means nothing.

By: holly

holly — Sun, 03 Apr 2011 08:47:50 +0000

these stats arent meant to prove quality of life moron. there are tons of stats on the web that prove quality of life and beauty and how friendly it is, this is just one compilation of crime stats, and certain companies and people need to know the real crime stats

By: Troll

Troll — Mon, 07 Mar 2011 22:23:35 +0000

Net.

By: rdog

rdog — Wed, 02 Feb 2011 04:13:14 +0000

absolutely, but oh it must be the ghosts of our great grandparents somehow oppressing them again and forcing them into a life of crime right? nothing a payout wont solve

By: rdog

rdog — Wed, 02 Feb 2011 04:10:18 +0000

the problem is…if we returned all the land, what would become of it? Would you natives make strides forward in medicine and technology for EVERYONE to take advantage of? We caucasians certainly have. Last time I seen houses/land given to a Native community in Ontario, within 6 months…it literally looked like a warzone! Packs of rabid dogs, people stumbling out of it on gas, brand new trucks bought and sold at a fraction of the cost for booze etc etc…..speaking of gas, are you aware that the chemical structure of gas had to be changed in some areas just so aboriginals would stop huffing it? Again I ask you, what beneficial change would occur if you got it all back?

By: rdog

rdog — Wed, 02 Feb 2011 04:02:44 +0000

Sure, Because once again its somehow our ancestors faults that your community doesn't take advantage of the free schooling, tax cuts etc. or respect its own traditions. Apparently this generation of aboriginals don't care to return to or respect the "old ways" from which it came. Nope, instead they want their tupperware and internet like everyone else, except they dont want to work for it. Wake up and realize that is most often your own chiefs and bands ripping you off and not the ghost of my great grandfather! Dont wanna be stereotyped? then dont play the role of your stereotype. Help yourselves for a change!

By: rdog

rdog — Wed, 02 Feb 2011 03:54:24 +0000

i agree 100%. Its a pity all these armchair do-gooders who dont live near the downtown cores immediately call "racism" when you say this. The natives from remote reservations up north tend to be the worse…they get overwhelmed by access to drugs and liquor 24/7. The city i'm from originally (thunder bay, ON) is plagued by this. I suggest any caucasian that feels this is somehow unfair or racist to go hang out in downtown winnipeg or thunder bay at night….When a pack of natives jumps you over a cigarette dont sa i didnt warn you PS I have native family who even say the up northers and nish gangs are out of control…go figure.

By: rdog

rdog — Wed, 02 Feb 2011 03:47:30 +0000

totally. this generation of aboriginals is completely out of control. not racism, but a fact. I hear natives themselves say it too!

By: Joe

Joe — Sat, 08 Jan 2011 10:31:15 +0000

STOP TELLING THE WORLD THAT YOUR FILTHY CITY IS SO GOOD TO PEOPLE, YOUR CITY AND YOUR PEOPLE ARE THE LAND OF THE SCUM (WHICH INCLUDES YOU) AND ARE PROUD ARROGRANT SELF CENTERED CITIZENS JUST LIKE NEW YORKERS !!!

By: marco

marco — Sat, 11 Dec 2010 12:36:45 +0000

I get the feeling that a lot of people, showing admirable civic pride, don't get what these statistics are all about. I grew up in a port town in Southern Italy and about 5% of the population were involved occasionally or full-time in criminal activities (chiefly smuggling and protection racket). Yet, it was relatively safe for me: I grew up there, had a few near-misses and learnt to spot potential trouble at twenty paces. Someone else might not have been so lucky (like a couple of French female tourists who were raped in the public square or the five or six locals who get killed every year by the local mafia…). So: this table is not to massage or prick the ego of local people living in these cities (or, more correctly, Police Authority Jurisdictions), but to give a broad picture of the situation, especially for the benefit of incoming outsiders. I mean: if you get robbed in the rough part of Saskatoon, and you're not from there, you get robbed in Saskatoon, no matter which part of town it is. In a way a statistic like this tells you how worried you should be about taking a wrong turn in a town you don't know. It's got nothing to do with locals perceptions.

Methinks.

By: Shan

Shan — Wed, 17 Nov 2010 13:33:43 +0000

I just found this article and I'm native and very educated, also without a criminal record. Maybe if the government would support the natives like they should be doing, it would make a difference. This is our land, we were here before anyone else, and they took it from us. But of course, if us natives went to Scotland or England and stole their land and oppressed their people, it'd be a different story, right?

By: kiwi

kiwi — Mon, 08 Nov 2010 09:16:11 +0000

earl marriott is a good school. if your son knows how to say no to the many offers for drugs he will get he should be fine. if you stay away from the trouble crowds you don't get into trouble

By: WSA

WSA — Sat, 03 Jul 2010 05:32:05 +0000

I am wondering why Oromocto is listed and not Fredericton. Oromocto only has a population of around 8,000 people and Fredericton around 50,000. I think it's safe to say Oromocto is part of Fredericton (the provincial capital) not vise versa.

By: kristy

kristy — Fri, 25 Jun 2010 17:14:30 +0000

All in all, if you do the crime be prepared to do the time….oh wait, there is no punishment for the crime. It's as simple as that. It does not matter what race you are, the fact of the matter remains that if the punishment were more severe the more likely the people commiting these crimes would be less likely to re-offend.

By: Ben

Ben — Wed, 26 May 2010 14:30:13 +0000

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By: jaelle

jaelle — Sun, 23 May 2010 22:26:41 +0000

I know this will actually sound a little strange, but part of the reason BC has such a high crime rate, is the good weather. Hear me out. It is 100 x more possible to be a homeless person in Vancouver, Victoria, or Surrey, where the weather rarely drops below zero, compared to pretty much the entire rest of Canada. Mental illness isn't treated properly anywhere in Canada, but the "Downtown Eastside" of Vancouver has become a gathering place for people with nowhere else to go. Despite the crime rate and high number of people living with HIV in that area, there is also a marginal amount of support for desperate people. The Union Gospel Mission just built a brand new facility and there are also other homeless shelters, etc. It really isn't a provincial problem, it's a federal problem. Until people with mental illnesses and addictions can get proper help for their problems, things will continue on in this way. I live in BC and I'm OK with these arbitrary labels. Whatever! My safety is not in jeopardy. What I'm not OK with, is seeing people suffer. If we, and I mean ALL of Canada, would invest in better education, social programs, counselling services for kids and teens, and addiction services for everyone who wants it, the "Downtown Eastside" would be a neighbourhood like any other.

By: Ak_sakal

Ak_sakal — Sun, 21 Mar 2010 16:42:31 +0000

what is the problem with controlling crimes?
catch one bastard red-handed – fucking kill him right on spot that's it
no legal expences, no tax-payers money wasted
I know you guys will start this bullshit like human rights, turn another cheek, love your neighbor, how can we be so violent, we must give every criminal a chance etc

absolute bullshit!

catch the guy and kill him period
the way it was long time ago and the way it should be
otherwise do not complain when you get robbed, raped and abused

By: Ak_sakal

Ak_sakal — Sun, 21 Mar 2010 16:34:52 +0000

check the stats for three months from Calgary and Winnipeg

http://crimemap.calgarypolice.ca/content/Disclaim…
and
http://map2.winnipeg.ca/iMaps/Main.aspx (view report)

in Calgary – 6 murders (homicides)
in Winnipeg – 0

total crimes : Calgary – about 10 000 (attempted car theft not included)
Winnipeg – 2 100 (including 400 attempted car thefts)

so which city is more dangerous to live in (even if u calculate population, say 1 mln in Calgary against 650 000 in Winnipeg, compare the rate per 1000)

or somebody is mistaken, or somebody is lying?
even last year there was only about 2200 – 2500 crimes in 3 months (according to their stats)

so what is going on?

By: scared

scared — Thu, 04 Mar 2010 12:21:01 +0000

we are a family of 6 looking to move to surrey bc now im frightned should i be my 14 yr old son will be in earl marriott school help

By: rob

rob — Wed, 03 Mar 2010 05:51:06 +0000

i lived in halifax all my life, and its hardly that bad. sure each city has few places to avoid. i would feel safer walking the streets of halifax at night, then running around vancouver, regina or toronto. and lets be honest, higher population, leads to higher crime. at least were not in the USA, where every city is the most dangerous

By: daniel

daniel — Wed, 17 Feb 2010 09:06:29 +0000

chilliwack bitchez

By: Jay

Jay — Thu, 11 Feb 2010 09:36:15 +0000

I'd rather deal with a little more crime than your aweful winters and unattractive province.

By: Jay

Jay — Fri, 29 Jan 2010 10:08:31 +0000

Thank you Alex!! I was so pleased to see your post. I am so tired of people trying to cover up Victoria's problems by denying everything and trying to make it seem like the "sleepy Victoria" people expect. Well it's not, it's a great place to live but as a long time resident it deserves the ranking it received!

By: Elle

Elle — Fri, 29 Jan 2010 09:58:37 +0000

Obviously you have never been a victim of these crimes. Ohh right that's bad for tourism, never mind that's more important!

Hope that load of bull never happens to you!

By: Jay

Jay — Fri, 29 Jan 2010 09:42:27 +0000

God you are dumb as a doorknob! Maybe do some more research before making an ignorant post like this!

By: Jay

Jay — Fri, 29 Jan 2010 09:37:19 +0000

Maybe you should live in city before you comment. I have spent lots of time in Los Angeles but have never had a problem, I guess I could say the same about that city. Listen jerk I live in Victoria and have for a long time, I cannot go out for a walk without being begged for change everyday, I have stepped over many hypodermic needles in parks, been robbed at gun point, had my cell phone stolen by knife point, car broken into twice and my apartment once as well. Ohh and the guy in the apartment above me shot his girlfriend to death when they were high on meth, one of those bullets put a very large hole in my couch. (Thank god I went to bed early that night)

Trust me these statistics are accurate….. but of course all you ignorant people know better.

By: James

James — Thu, 07 Jan 2010 11:08:17 +0000

Facts: 1: Areas with high populations of Blacks or Natives, always results in more violence, this is true all over the world. New Zealand, it's the Maori who cause most the problems. In Britain, it's the poor London areas where Blacks reside that is the most dangerous. The US, no need to go into that country. Canada, is very much the same. The reason these races are so violent, too many to go into, we all know them anyway, but we can't say them out loud or we're labelled racist.
2: Welfare: This has destroyed communities all over the world also, Britain has huge problems with lazy natives and migrants who are happy to claim welfare, not work, and then spend their days causing havoc out or boredom and general stupidity, this is much the same everywhere else in the world. These welfare reliant yobs then create bigger social problems, more drugs, more immigrants needed in the country to do the jobs the morons won't, etc etc.
3: Policing: Because of human rights and laws that favor the criminals and make life unbearable for the law abiding, hard working, honest citizens, police have a nightmare.

By: waterloo

waterloo — Wed, 30 Dec 2009 23:40:05 +0000

I don't believe for a second that Thunder Bay is the most dangerous place in Ontario. Why is York region so low? Haven't you ever heard of Jane and Finch? I went to York University for a year and there were numerous rapings on and around the campus.

By: pawan from cambridge

pawan from cambridge — Wed, 23 Dec 2009 18:58:35 +0000

im from cambridge in waterloo reagon im 68 omg

By: Fred

Fred — Sun, 06 Dec 2009 11:34:57 +0000

…. What your saying may be true for cities like Prince Geroge and Chiliwack B.C. But ive lived in Winnipeg most of my life and I have been jacked many times on Main street and the downtown area, once by gunpoint! all for petty stuff, all by natives. Winnipeg does have very nice areas to live but Winnipeg ranked #2 is accurate

By: guest

guest — Sat, 14 Nov 2009 17:20:46 +0000

I know this comment will get alot of flack, but Saskatoon, Winnipeg and Regina are the top 3 due to their very large aboriginal populations. Period. Full Stop. There are social, economic and cultural reasons for this, but there is no denying that a disporportionate percentage of the stats for those 3 cities are instigated by people of aboriginal descent. I have lived in 2 of the 3 cities and have experienced firsthand the problems those centers face.

By: Navi

Navi — Fri, 23 Oct 2009 04:19:28 +0000

I assume you aren't aware that if you just press "ctrl+F" on your keyboard & type the name of your city/town, it will highlight it and take you right to it.

By: John

John — Thu, 22 Oct 2009 01:52:59 +0000

edmonton sucks

By: halifaxgirl

halifaxgirl — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 22:41:07 +0000

wow, halifax being number 7 is actually unbelievable.
i live in halifax and it is craaaaazy that its ranked that high out of 100. like com'on, sure there may be less safe places in halifax, but the dartmouth side is amazing. its really not good for tourism if its ranked 7th.
i just think thats a load of bull.

By: woe

woe — Tue, 25 Aug 2009 23:27:47 +0000

Interesting that you call the Natives 'racist'…did you read your own comment? I am a Native person
without a criminal record who lives in a town that houses differing Native communities…we don't even make
some of the lists here. But I can sure tell a racist when I read one. You need to remember (or learn about)
that the government brought the 'blacks' here on slave ships.,,,while they were busily wiping out the Native
communities with reservation moves, loss of land, and disease. So you can look to them to clean up the
mess that you feel has entailed from this. It takes years (in Europe, hundreds of years – and that's where
the 'whites' came from) for a people to come back from this type of genocide and mass mistreatment. There
is a sadness and unrest in the soul that is created in this. It takes generations to heal. Look at Northern Ireland.
Lots of crime and murder there. But not many blacks and natives….
Just whities! Now how could that happen?!

By: Matt G

Matt G — Tue, 25 Aug 2009 02:06:53 +0000

If they made a list saying Canada was in the top 5 most dangerous countries in the world, It wouldn't bother me. Because I don't live in ALL of Canada, just like I don't live in ALL of Calgary. I'm just one guy, living in my small corner. This is why this article is so irrelevant. The article is made insignificant; not by the accuracy of its statistics but by the breadth of its scope. It is simply far too unspecific to carry any meaning whatsoever.

I shouldn't say it is insignificant. It poses, in fact, a significant social threat through the reactions or the reader, and the misinformed opinions he will form. It is significant because, like most other lists in this publication, it is a breach of trust on the part of an established news organization, and is nothing short of public manipulation.

By: Vic

Vic — Sun, 19 Jul 2009 18:27:07 +0000

What reason did the cops give for not pressing charges??

By: Guy from Alberta

Guy from Alberta — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 20:05:44 +0000

People say that this list is flawed because it is not accurate. I disagree. You can't measure a city based on the overall crimes commited, because it would just put the large cities on top because they are simply so populated. This is why Saskatoon is so high. 10 murders in Saskatoon is equal to 100 murders in Toronto. And it is true probably more than 70% of crime in Saskatoon, Regina and Winnipeg is commited by Aboriginal populations. I wish they included all communities in Canada by crime rate, because I guarantee the top places would be mostly reservations in the west (i.e. Hobema, AB).

By: dave from ottawa

dave from ottawa — Mon, 01 Jun 2009 00:56:55 +0000

Saskatoon is in no way flawed the city has gone way down hill check the murder rates, assault, rape, burglary, etc… if Saskatoon is not first its in the top 5 the fact that anyone i saying its not a s dangerous is ignorant to solid facts although i agree its stupid to have it up with Rio i also agree with the fact that its due to aboriginals while ti is not entirely their fault for their situation at some point they have to take responsibility we have to follow what the Aussies did and until we do that nothings gonna change and this shit show is going to continue.

By: Dave from toon

Dave from toon — Mon, 23 Mar 2009 15:52:21 +0000

Also, is it true that the stats for homicide are weighted the same as car thefts and break and enters? If this is so, it is no wonder your list is so flawed. I am sure Saskatoon hasn’t had more than 10 homicides in a year in a long time if ever. How many did Toronto or Surrey have last week?

By: Dave from toon

Dave from toon — Mon, 23 Mar 2009 15:47:19 +0000

Wow, thanks again Macleans … Your list is flawed and makes Saskatoon look like Kabul. Thanks to your flawed methodology you were used as the main resource for real clear world’s poorly researched top ten most dangerous cities list. Although Saskatoon does have its problems such as youth gangs and relitively isolated crimes that come with them, we are hardly comparable to Johannesburg and Rio de Janeiro. In my opinion it is not even comparable to Surrey or Toronto and all the gun violence that they have been seeing for the last ten years. Thanks again Macleans …

By: saskatoon is safe

saskatoon is safe — Sun, 22 Mar 2009 18:26:04 +0000

Thomas, you are OBVIOUSLY not from Saskatoon, I completely agree with “also safe in Saskatoon” I have lived here for 25 years and have never experienced any trouble, nor have any of my friends or family, we do have crime, just like every other city but I feel these stats to be very unreliable. This is just not the case here. And also if you look at the stats for Saskatoon, crime rates are decreasing by quite a bit so to say that we aren’t doing anything about it is simply ignorant!

By: thomas

thomas — Sun, 22 Mar 2009 02:52:33 +0000

The scary thing about Saskatoon being #1 is the won’t admit it so the are obviously not going to try and deal with it.

By: Luke

Luke — Sat, 21 Mar 2009 02:52:06 +0000

For the ” 17th most dangerous city” this article is completly wrong. having grown up in brantford for 9 years and lived in all different parts of the city I know the ONLY bad part of the city is downtown. Over 75% of all crimes in brantford are commited there. Also less then 20% of the total population lives in that area. So much like the first comment I completly disagree with this article. Also did this writer ever live in all parts of the city long enough to realize what parts are good and not so good. No I don’t think so.