The silence of the Canadian lambs

Maybe we have trouble telling our own stories because so many we try to tell are false

by Mark Steyn on Thursday, March 26, 2009 10:20am - 90 Comments

The silence of the Canadian lambsIf you missed the CRTC hearings the other week, don’t worry. The exciting plans to annex the Internet to the cheerless wasteland of CanCon enforcement were justified under the usual refrain of Trudeaupian boosterism: we have to create space for Canadians to tell their own stories.

Personally, whenever I hear that line, the only plot twist I’m in the mood for is: “And then I woke up, and it had all been a bad dream.” But, assuming you’re of a more indulgent bent, the question then arises: why do Canadians have such difficulty telling their own stories?

Well, here’s a thought: maybe because most of the ones we’re trying to tell are false.

I don’t use that word lightly. But I’m still digging myself out from the blizzard of reaction to what I wrote in this space two weeks ago about Polytechnique, the film of the Montreal massacre. You can get a more or less representative sampling of reader complaints from the Maclean’s website, but let’s start with the National Post’s objections:

“Mark Steyn uses the occasion of Denis Villeneuve’s new film,” wrote the Post’s Chris Selley, “to renew his complaints about Canadian manhood, as represented by the male students who ‘abandoned their female classmates to their fate’ on orders from Marc Lépine. Ten years ago we considered this line of argument usefully contrarian; now it’s just tired. The point, such as it is, has been made.”

Oh, dear. I’m sorry it’s “tired.” Actually, the point, such as it is, was that even M Villeneuve, no right-wing pro-American yahoo but an impeccably Québécois progressive trying to tell one of those quintessentially Canadian (okay, Quebec) stories, had been unable to avoid placing the men’s fatal passivity at the heart of the film. Unfortunately, the official narrative of the event—the feminist narrative, the dark-underbelly-of-Canadian-male-violence-lurking-within-every-somnolent-hoser narrative—remains in place, even though it’s utter twaddle. And, as long as Canada’s establishment keeps forcing a fraud on me, I’m going to object.

By the way, since Mr. Selley tires so easily, I wonder whether he’s as weary of other “complaints about Canadian manhood.” To mark International Day for the Elimination of Violence Against Women, Cheri DiNovo, MPP, told the Ontario parliament that one in every two women in the province is abused or assaulted—including, as she noted, half the female members listening to her. The only difference between your Sudanese machete-wielder and your Ontarian abuser is that the latter’s more furtive about it: “We can look at the Congo, we can look at Darfur, we can look at the horrors of the world; here, it’s more guerrilla warfare; here it’s one man against one woman in the quiet of their own home . . . ” Does Chris Selley not occasionally find this sort of thing also just a wee bit tired, albeit statistically imaginative?

Here’s another Canadian story. The day Mr. Selley issued his magisterial yawn, the Court of Queen’s Bench in Manitoba passed sentence on Vincent Li for stabbing, beheading and partially consuming Tim McLean, his fellow passenger on a Greyhound bus ride last summer. The “agreed statement” between the Crown and the defence was full of interesting details. The Winnipeg Sun’s Tom Brodbeck published the fullest version:

“When Greyhound bus 1170 was approximately 18 kilometres west of Portage la Prairie on the TransCanada Highway, Mr. Li began to repeatedly stab Tim McLean, for no apparent reason.

“Tim McLean struggled and tried to escape, as evidenced by a number of defensive wounds. He was unsuccessful and eventually either fell or was thrown to the floor of the bus. Due to his location at the back of the bus and adjacent to a window, the seats ahead of him were a barrier to escape.

“Mr. Li was preoccupied with Tim McLean, and continued to stab him as he lay on the floor. He did not pay any attention to the other passengers as the bus was vacated. He appeared oblivious to the demands of bus driver Bruce Martin that he stop what he was doing. Several persons indicate that after everyone had vacated the bus, Mr. Li came to the front of the bus and tried to exit. The bus driver was able to close the door on Mr. Li’s arm, with the bloody knife extended outside of the bus.

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  • http://coyne kc

    Enough already, we get it Steyn! Canadians sit around sucking their thumbs and waiting for the state cavalry to arrive, [which it often doesn't] while wondering who to sue for their self-imposed cowardice. It’s not that the “one who judges” doesn’t have a pt or two, it’s just the sanctimonious , glib, flippant, detached sneering way he choses to make it; oh and by the way Mark, congratulations – you got Trudeaupian out in under 10secs, record for you isn’t it? The irony being, that anyone who knew anything about ole fuddle duddle knows he would have been the first one in the door, whether it be at Laval, or on the greyhound[ last one's a stretch, hard to see him on the bus] But let’s not be too picky when you’ra hungry demagogue with a selective, over-generalized point to make.Igot news for you Steyn, there still are a lot of progressive men out there who never did buy the feminist, all men are rapists clap trap, without needing your call for a return to primal instinct.
    Interesting that Steyn choses these particular incidents. He doesn’t want to talk about the death of that poor sod in the Vancouver airport, and those brave lying mounties – that primal enough for you Mark? No pissing around there with questions, sissy attempts to coddle a furriner eh? The way it used to be – a blast from the past ; like when the local lads used to go hunting hippies along the highway, in my community – in the sixties. We were all so much more men then – before Pierre made us all wusses!
    Give over with your one side revisionistic tales Steyne – yr really becoming a bore. Give up the tasteless man eats passenger jokes, why don’t you – Tim’s mother might be reading – and yr not funny, not in that way anyway!

    • wayne moores

      I guess the truth hurts. Funny you make Steyn’s point about the RCMP by bringing up the Vancouver Airport fiasco. In one case the man had a knife and was cutting off someone’s head. In the other case the man was armed with a stapler and guess which one our fearless dudley do rites take on? Astonishingly, yesterday the top cop, er no he a bureaucrat, ignoring the worldwide embarrisment and has decided that, wait for it, the boys in red need more tasers and need to use them more often. This is very telling and again underlines what Steyn is alluding to. In the bus incident, tasers are about as useful as an accordian at a deer hunt. Tasers are really only useful for subdoing and possibly killing haremless confused people at airports. I guess they figure to continue to let really dangerous people continue the mayhem until they wear themselves out or fall asleep. As with Steyn, I just don’t see any heroic Canadian story to be spin doctored out of all this. By the way, my brother was in the RCMP for thirty years. He went on patroal with a six shot revolver. There were no tasers, bullitproof vests, swat teams sitting around doing nothing. I’m sure he’s spinning in his grave.

      • http://coyne kc

        Wayne
        I don’t make his pt at all. You seem to be implying that the passive society, Steyn keeps braying about, is cheering on the taser forces. Not so, i’ll bet a lot of us namby pambied citizens would be much happier to see the baton come out, or risk the occassional injury to our cops than see this cattle prod mentality of cops continue – geez, they actually zapped a 80yr old man who was handcuffed to a bed, didn’t they?
        If Steyn has a point, it’s true – maybe, of our elites.I still know lots of folks who’re sickened by what happened on that bus – god i still use the bus! The cops could have shot him, as far as a lot of people are concerned – me included. Steyn cherry-picking a couple of citizen interventions in Australia doesn’t convince me that our whole society needs to stp being girlie-men!

        • JPLodine

          What the Christ do you make of the RCMP sitting on their thumbs while a psychopath murders and cannibalizes an innocent man?

          Your society DOES need to stop being girlie-men!

    • ripnrobert

      Steyn probably thinks that those who oppose his view are not on his level. Well not many can go so low. Real journalism isn’t found that much in the main stream media anymore, not that it ever was.
      Nice job lining Steyn up against the wall of truth.
      Thx.

      • GGM

        This is an unfortunately typical post. Absolutely ignore everything written and attack the writer. Offer no rebuttal, because you cannot. The “wall of truth” hurts, eh?

    • RobL

      If you could suck the devil’s member, I’m convinced you would. What makes you hate western society and love the scum of the world so much that you would glorify the dregs and cast aspersions at those who would protect us? You are an shame to yourself, your family, and your country.

      • http://www.jackmitchell.ca Jack Mitchell

        No no, he was attacking Steyn.

  • Mike T.

    It wasn’t tired so much as insulting and stupid.

  • JimD

    Amen. I don’t always agree with Mark Steyn, but I wholeheartedly agree that we’ve become a society of fence-sitters and apologists, too afraid to question the fact that our liberties are being flushed down the drain, let alone actually fight for those liberties.

  • dh

    kc, I don’t believe MS is making a case here for primal male physical dominance or advocating violence, as you suggest. Whatever Steyn’s intentions, his column illustrates an attitude that has seemingly gained an enormous following in Canada: me, me, me. My rights, My success, My safety, not My problem, etc. People are cowards not because they are scared, but because they are only concerned about themselves. Courage is not a lack of fear, it is selflessness and a lack of apathy.

    • http://coyne kc

      Essentially I don’t disagree with you, that said i think Steyn makes that pt badly. [ if it is his really]
      Myself, i actually have more time for red necks than new agers, but that doesn’t mean i have to put up with their ignorance either. Steyn, to me is someone who only scatches at the surface of the problem, we all know it’s there and worry about it, in our own way.
      I don’t see any easy solutions – maybe there are far too many lazy journos out there, not to mention far too many men stuck behind keyboards. Steyn was very likely one of those cheering as the modern state carved off the past, present and future for the working man, in this country. So, if we’re all a nation of fence sitting, nerdy computer twerps, he’s as much to blame as anyone.

      • glak from planet zork

        Steyn job is to move the pendulum. Our society has grown soft through affluence and absence of a common struggle.
        Face it, he’s riled you enough to jump any knife wielding loon you come across today.

        • http://coyne kc

          Agreed!
          But i don’t have to like the way he makes his points. I despise ignorant demagogues, no matter which political spectrum they represent.

          • sf

            “ignorant demagogues”?

            People like Steyn for the same reason people like Dr. Phil: he isn’t afraid to say something new. He’s not beholden to the establishment. He isn’t a wimpish boring petty scribe like the majority of the jounalists today. If he thinks something is true, he isn’t afraid to say it.

            The fact that you dislike this speaks more of you than him.

          • http://www.jackmitchell.ca Jack Mitchell

            sf, you have absolutely nailed it. Exactly right. He’s the anti-Dr. Phil. They even look similar. And they speak at exactly the same mental level. Ever seen them both in the same place?

      • JPLodine

        Oh fer Chrissake… “no easy solutions”???? If you’re one of those RCMP, you *HAD* and easy solution — unholster your weapon and save an innocent life!

  • Bill Simpson

    Another side to this “canadian story” is the quiet acquiescence to authority that these stories demonstrate. We are told over and over to wait for the appropriate authorities to arrive, to avoid escalating the problem, not to intervene and not to act. Almost that we have no right to act, and will be liable to consequences if we do and some not perfect outcome follows.

    Steyn is provocative and exaggerates to get his point over, but, truly, what we would advise our children to do if faced with such situations? Would we tell them to do the right thing, to intervene decisively? Or would it be safety first as usual.

    • Daniel Marois

      Finally! Someone who understands the predicament society finds itself in at the moment. Personally I don’t believe we are more cowardly (though I’m neither ready nor willing to defend our politicians on that point) than we used to be. It’s just that barriers have been erected to prevent people from doing what they believe is the right thing, in this case, immobilizing Li.

      I have no problem believing that if such an event had occurred and Mr. Li had been injured in the ensuing struggle that the “defenders” (both in the bus and in the subsequent court case) would have been punished in some manner. Gawd knows what would happen should an attacker be killed. We’ve all heard head-scratching stories of victims defending themselves only to be sued successfully by their attackers. Mr. Steyn himself has written extensively about this in the context of Human Rights in Canada.

      I think most men would want to be there to help but the possible negative consequences have been so rammed into our psyches that most of us have to think about doing anything “foolish”.

      Of course, none of this explains the inexcusable and bizarre behaviour of the RCMP. That is surely nothing to be proud of.

  • Critical Reasoning

    The RCMP stated that the bus passengers could not have done anything to save Mr. Maclean, who was already dead by the time anyone realized what was happening.

    • http://coyne kc

      That didn’t stop Steyn from implying that they could have.

      • Mike T.

        WHY DID THESE COWARDS NOT BRING THE VICTIM BACK TO LIFE??!!!! SHAME!!

    • Maureen

      No but the RCMP and others allowed him to desecrate and defile a human body – no thought for family or friends to have to live with the thought that a criminal ate part of your loved one. Since Tim was already dead and no one else was on the bus, why didn’t the RCMP go in? Actually I think I know, because they would then be under investigation if anything, anything happened to the criminal and the MSM would be in the front row cheering the investigation on.

      • http://www.jackmitchell.ca Jack Mitchell

        Why should RCMP members risk their lives against a killer in the throes of a psychotic rage just to prevent defilement?

        • JimD

          This is why Tasers were invented Jack – life threatening situations.

        • matt

          I suggest you ask he victim’s family for an appropriate response on how important preventing defilement can feel

      • Critical Reasoning

        Maureen, I don’t think the RCMP would have been justified in shooting Li just to prevent him from desecrating the body of the victim. I’m sure many officers were tempted to open fire when they saw the sick things that were being done to the corpse, but the threat was completely contained at that point, so any attempt to storm the bus would essentially be an execution.

        • Maureen

          Did I say anything about shooting? No.

        • wayne moores

          Why storm the bus and risk anyone’s life? Are you kidding me? Just shoot the bastard! This dialouge proves Steyn’s point for God’s sake. A whole swat team is held at bay for hours by a lunatic with no live hostages and armed with a knife. If they can’t act in this situation, then when?

          • JPLodine

            Exactly! Common sense… this guy murdered someone IN THEIR SIGHT. If they cannot act in this situation, then what the hell good are they?

          • http://www.jackmitchell.ca Jack Mitchell

            About as much use as somebody who doesn’t even bother to read the article he leaves seven comments on.

      • Meany

        I think it would have been pretty damned stupid of the RCMP to board the bus, get into an altercation, and perhaps end up with another dead person (this time, the nut de jour, presumably) when they could just wait for him to get bored and leave. The victim was already dead.

        As Critical Reasoning pointed out, storming the bus would essentially be an execution. Perhaps that is what the nut deserved, but that doesn’t make it right.

  • SAB

    National Post: “Bus heroes tell how they saved driver from hammer attack” – Toronto, August ’08

    Toronto Star: “Hero wife slain trying to save spouse” – December, ’08

    Mark Steyn tells a story of how we stand by – how we do not take risks to help people – and illustrated it wtih two examples. Above are headlines (didn’t post links b/c of moderation) of stories in the GTA in the last several months.

    Steyn’s argument might be right it might be wrong – but his evidence is insufficient to draw such a strong conclusion. A few minutes on google and one can find enough examples to contradict his argument or at least make an opposing argument that is equally strong.

    I don’t have a problem with Mark’s provocative views, I’m glad journalists push us:

    But don’t be so lazy.

    A much better story would have been to try and understand why some people act and some don’t and what are the circumstances. Mark scratched the surface on this making references to Liviu Librescu – but used it to (shakily) back up his argument rather than give the reader much more insight.

    • http://coyne kc

      Yr last point would certainly be mine!

    • Kayla

      These stories are another illustration of why we should all love Toronto: we breed heroes. Maybe even superheroes?

      • Critical Reasoning

        Wasn’t Superman conceived in Toronto before he was born in Krypton?

        • Kaplan

          SAB, you make a great point.

          Sadly, some prof at McGill or U of A will probably study that very same question, and then get lampooned by Steyn for spending time and public money on such an allegedly pansy-assed research project.

      • SAB

        To be fair, the second one occurred in Oshawa – just reported in the Star.

        In the new Macleans Hero rankings, I expect Oshawa will be number one in the ‘heroes per capita’ ranking!

    • Daniel Marois

      Excellent points and thanks for posting them.

  • http://coyne kc

    I’m curious, do tell please!

  • Lynn

    Steyn, what is your thesis, exactly? That Canadians should not lobby for CanCon rules and enforcement because so much of CanCon is just self-aggrandizing bunk? Or, that the line “Canadians need to be able to tell their own stories” or somesuch is a useless phrase because our stories are nothing to be proud of?

    I lose your point when I go through the ranting and railing against the RCMP (who are on the front lines trying to navigate this sticky, morally-devoid, shades-of-gray swamp that is criminality with no help from folks who judge only in hindsight) and some obscured interpretation of feminism (that bears little or no relationship to the philosophy’s tenets). Furthermore, I am left with a sinking feeling that you do not appreciate what historical successes and failures, artistic and cultural triumphs and obstacles, and socio-political shifts and changes have occurred by the will of Canadians.

    And, to what point do you use the Librescu case? Are you trying to represent it as metonymic (or metaphoric) of some collective sentiment in the US? If so, I feel obliged to remind you that said country is among the most litigious in the world, and certainly more so than our own. Think big picture: Canadians have a lot to offer the world, and ourselves; perhaps CanCon is not the most appropriate way to ensure our voices are heard, but certainly, it’s a well-intentioned step to national expression and collective understanding.

    • Bill Simpson

      His themes are well-worn, but the connections that he makes are valid enough. There is not much point bleating about Cancon and telling Canadian stories if the tough issues are avoided, and the Lepine and Greyhound stories are, if nothing else, tough issues which have been largely skimmed over by our Cancon champions.

      As for the RCMP, my niece is in this force, and I am constantly embarrassed for her as I see one incompetently or corruptly handled incident after another. If our local media do not aggressively pursue these stories, then there is not much to miss if they are replaced with imports.

      • Mike T.

        There’s nothing tough or controversial about these issues. We roundly condemn the murderers and are saddened about the tradgey of the dead. There’s not much else to say about it.

    • JPLodine

      “National expression”… “collective understanding”… what palaver. Canadians with attitudes like this have NOTHING to offer the world except weakness and subservience.

      When confronted with what you refer to as the “sticky, morally-devoid, shades-of-gray swamp that is criminality” you might recommend acting in accord withf the advice of Don Vito Corleone…

      “you could ACT LIKE A MAN”.

  • http://www.jackmitchell.ca Jack Mitchell

    He’s really phoning it in at this point, eh? A third of this piece consists of a quotation from the Winnipeg Sun report; the rest is “reax” to his earlier piece, which was about his personal reaction to a film about events of nearly 20 years ago. Sad, really. He reminds of Hemingway.

    • Critical Reasoning

      Agreed. Steyn comes across as lazy in this column. You can tell that it’s a half-hearted attempt to string together a bunch of loosely related stories using the same old themes. He seems bored by the whole thing.

    • tobyornotoby

      And he’s quoting Tom Brodbeck! (Who showed unusual restraint by not alledging that Li is an NDP member, or a bureaucrat or both. Or maybe that was edited off the bottom of the column.)

    • JPLodine

      I completely disagree. Steyn’s sense of outrage is clear throughout this piece. His boredom is with his own sense of disgust with the state of Canadian society. He has, after all, made these same points many times before. And they’re as true now as they have been all along.

      • http://www.jackmitchell.ca Jack Mitchell

        Steyn’s sense of outrage is about as authentic as Cheez Whiz.

        • Critical Reasoning

          How dare you compare Steyn’s outrage in any way with a bright, yellow, viscous processed cheese sauce that delights millions.

          • http://www.jackmitchell.ca Jack Mitchell

            Quite right, my apologies, CR. I meant to write, “. . . as authentic as Cheez Whiz laced with Viagra.”

          • Critical Reasoning

            LOL – Sounds like a cardiologist’s worst nightmare.

  • http://www.jackmitchell.ca Jack Mitchell

    Are you the guy that saved the Burger King the other day in Miami?

    • http://coyne kc

      What he doesn’t say is how many other people he would have killed before he got the right guy. Guns only being as intelligent as the person wielding them – in this case i’d say – DUCK!!!

  • glak from planet zork

    Hold on there bubbles! First off, it’s Cunucks and were not the ones who just installed touchy-feely in the White House. We have at least as many bravado types here as anywhere.
    Steyn’s earlier example of soft western males, the compliant students Marc Lepine chased from the classroom, illustrates the problem better than the Vincent Li incident.
    What were those students thinking? That Lepine was there to substitute teach? He had a rifle. Surely they knew he was there to harm someone.
    What I take away from Steyn’s crusade is the creeping ‘ someone else will take care of the situation ‘ attitude we’ve fallen into.

  • Mike T.

    I feel it worth pointing out that if you’re on the Winnipeg bus your concealed permit isn’t valid.

  • Gaunilon

    Well, this Canadian is glad to have these historical examples and cautionary tales brought to mind. Hopefully if I ever find myself in a similar situation, I’ll act like a Librescu and not a greyhound bus passenger… but it’s worth remembering that there but for the grace of God go I.

    And honestly I think that, and raising our children with a clear sense of Horatio-on-the-bridge heroism, is all any of us should be doing about it. Those who made themselves cowards will have their cowardice forever. It is not profitable to look down on them. Rather let us look at the heroes (Kapyong, Vimy, Juno, Tehran, etc.) and show them to our children so that Canadian society can grow up and regain its manhood.

    • http://www.jackmitchell.ca Jack Mitchell

      The right in Canada is so goddamn unpatriotic it’s not even funny.

  • mcbean

    Sorry lads, Steyn hit the nail on the head. I’ve seen too many times people just turning away where 20 years ago they would have got involved. The nancyfication of our great country. Sooner or later, hopefully, we’ll get it.

    • sf

      It’s true.

      Today, wimps are praised and heroes are vilified.

      It’s the standard today. All you every hear is: don’t take risks, don’t help others, wait for the police, don’t get involved, don’t do this, don’t do that, be an observer, etc…

      • A mom

        SF sees what I see. Canadian hate thier politicians but will not take action to change the governement themselves. It is easy to sit and complain, harder yet to do an action to change a problem.

  • Jim

    Everyone on that bus should bear some of the responsibility of what happened to Tim. Several passengers, and not one took a run at Li in an attempt to stop him. Before pointing fingers at the bus company, the police, or our justice system, we should start with ourselves. A bunch of cowards.

  • TSS

    Actually, even a liberal could deduce who the bad guy was on that bus. That would be the one waving the young man’s head around. He’d be hard to miss.
    No, my concealed weapons permit would not have been legal in Canada, but then again, that’s the point. Deceive yourself all you want about the horrors of guns and their yahoo owners. The day may come when your family or friends face a deadly situation, and all you’ll be holding is your joy stick. Smug is as smug does.

    • Shenping

      Oh yes, the joys of smug internet bravery . . .

      Just out of curiosity, if you have a busload of mostly law-abiding citizens and one crazy murdering psychotic, and concealed guns are legal, who is most likely to have a gun, the murderous psychopath or the good guys?

      And that’s leaving out the concept of a circular firing squad.

      I’ve owned ammunition (I rented the gun from the firing range), so I’m not an anti-gun nazi. We’re all anonymous commenters here, so nobody really knows anyone else’s background. Having grown up in what MacLeans calls “Canada’s Worst Neighbourhood”, (I’d dispute it even makes SK’s top ten, let alone Canada’s #1), I’m kind of glad guns aren’t easier to get ahold of. Even as a kid I was fast enough to outrun a knife.

      Stop to think for a minute. What exactly does it it mean that a debate over Canadian content regulations turns into a rant that we all need to carry guns so we can kill the crazy people?

      You do know TSS stands for Toxic Shock Syndrome.

      • JPLodine

        No one siad we all need to carry guns. We should be willing, however, to grant concealed carry permits to trained individuals of good character. If it puts some uncertainty into the mind of a potential bad guy it could help prevent tragedies. It might not have prevented this particular whack job from starting his rampage, but it certainly could have helped keep it from ending the way it did.

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  • gm1000

    When attacked routinely for not telling “Canadian stories” Garth Drabinksy replied “Canadian history is boring.” Add Untellable. Gosh you can’t even recreate the Hts of Abraham than the PCS trash it. And of course Steyn is right: Canadians make huge efforts not to be noticed unless they’re portrayed as saintly.

    So it is pointless to have government sponsored media to tell stories that nobody has the guts to tell.

  • http://deleted Sandi

    Yawn – Styn on the everything Canadians do is wrong rant again. BORING!

  • Dieter Sprockets

    I wonder if, in Tim McLean’s last conscious moments, he was aware that his fellow passengers had “vacated” the bus and barricaded him in with his murderer.

    ————

    With spine like this it’s little wonder the Toronto Star is telling us to stay clear of Russian encroachment of Canadian Arctic claims.

  • A mom

    Congrats. A Canadian who gets it. That Canadians do not want to hear how bad thing really are in thier own backyard. When I moved to Canads in 03. I could not find updatef crime stats from the media or police. Now some data is online in the media but not all crimes by all areas. Stats can updates info as requested. So, what does the Canadian media do, quote US stats. That is like the US quoting stats from Afghanistan on child poverty in the US. Irrelevant! It has become simply to easy to chic to beat up on the US and us US data than admit all is not kosher in Canada. Canadians do not want to hear bad news from the homefront. Rather they feel safe and snug and want to keep feeling that way no matter what. Being safe does not cut down on murder, violence and poverty. Denial is not a river in Egypt.

    • Shenping

      Because everyone knows we have no history of being critical of ourselves in Canada.

      If you couldn’t find updated crime stats in 2003, you weren’t looking very hard. I’ve been hearing them on radio & TV since I was a kid in the 70′s.

      • A mom

        Go digging people. the cops do stats now but they didn’t then nor could you get them if you called a city or police dept. I know i tried. half the stuff the news reports is not up to date and accurate and go to any govt of Canada site and they often refer to US data and sites for everthing from crime to health. I want canada data, not my home country. That is updated montlhly or quarterly. Stats can who compiles the data you hears is not updated often. GO to the sites yourselves and learn the truth. Canadians want positive news not negative. They take pride in people who have left the country, ie to go the US and make it there. Why not take pride in those who stay in Canada and make Canada better?

        Right now Iggy who barely spent time in Canada is idiolized while Harper a home grown man, is bemoaned. Take pride in Canada and write good stories. When I do see a good story about Canada is then ruined by a swipe at the US. Good people can be good without taking swipes at others to make themselves feel better.

  • Santa

    Look what I found on the internet.

    COUNT KONRAD WINRICH GRAF FINCK VON FINCKENSTEIN, now Chairman of the Canadian CRTC on January 25, 2007. Started public service in 1973, in numberous senior positions acquiring broad experience in the areas of trade, commercial and competition law and Justice of the Federal Court during 2003 to 2007.
    These roles included Assistant Deputy Minister and Assistant Attorney General in the Canadian departments of Industry, Justice and External Affairs, overseeing the implementation of the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) and negotiated the dispute settlement mechanism of the Canada-U.S. Free Trade Agreement, plus supervised the drafting and implementation. During the 1980s, he served as Senior General Counsel with Industry Canada and the Trade Negotiations Office.

    Google Canlii law cases
    Search Konrad von Finckenstein judge 106 cases
    Born: 4 April 1945 Malchow, Germany
    Father: Count Ottfried Ernst Gotthold Graf Finck
    Mother: Countess Eva Grafin Finck (Schubring)
    Closest adviser and good friend Prof. Dr. Theodor Oberlaender.
    Oberländer obtained a doctorate in Agricultural Sciences and wrote several books about the need for German intervention in the agricultural systems of Poland and the Soviet Union, which he considered “un-economic”.
    Oberlaender was an employee of the German-Russian Saatbau AGin the Cuban territory for 1928, 1932 and 1934. Oberlaender devoted to the state-sponsored Ostforschung with the goal of public support to rehabilitation of the eastern territories lost after the First World War. The hunger plan (Google) to reorganization Eastern Europe during the war against the Soviet Union 1941-1945.
    The “Guidelines for the management of the economy in the Eastern neubesetzten”, the so-called Green Map, which on 16 June 1941 was the official handbook for the economic administration in the occupied Soviet Union by Reich Marshal Hermann Goering and was released just before the raid.

    Oberlaender in 1982 joined as co-signatory of the Heidelberger Manifest in appearance, which is against further immigration to Germany proceedings.
    History
    Count Albrecht Konrad Reinhold Finck von Finckenstein, (October 1660 — 16 December 1735) was a Prussian nobleman and statesman.
    Von Finckenstein came from from ancient Prussian nobility and was the son of a Prussian chamberlain. He became a Prussian Field Marshal and tutor to the Prussian crown princes, Governor of Pillau, general of a regiment, knight of the Order of the Black Eagle, Knight of the Order of St John, Captain to Krossen, as well as master of the Finckenstein estate.

    Seized: The 2008 landgrab for food and financial security
    http://www.grain.org/briefings/?id=212

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