We’re in the fast lane to polygamy

Remember same-sex-marriage proponents rolling their eyes at talk of what might be next?

by Mark Steyn on Thursday, April 9, 2009 11:10am - 266 Comments

We’re in the fast lane to polygamyWhat’s my line on legalized polygamy? Oh, I pretty much said it all back in 2004, in a column for Ezra Levant’s Western Standard. Headline: “It’s Closer Than They Think.”

Well, a mere half-decade down the slippery slope and here we are, with the marrying kind of Bountiful, B.C., headed for the Supreme Court of Canada. Five years ago, proponents of same-sex marriage went into full you-cannot-be-serious eye-rolling mode when naysayers warned that polygamy would be next. As I wrote in that Western Standard piece:

“Gay marriage, they assure us, is the merest amendment to traditional marriage, and once we’ve done that we’ll pull up the drawbridge.”

Claire L’Heureux-Dubé, the former Supreme Court justice, remains confident the drawbridge is firmly up. “Marriage is a union of two people, period,” she said in Quebec the other day. But it used to be a union of one man and one woman, period. And, if that period got kicked down the page to accommodate a comma and a subordinate clause, why shouldn’t it get kicked again? If the sex of the participants is no longer relevant, why should the number be?

Ah, well, says Mme L’Heureux-Dubé, polygamists don’t enjoy the same societal acceptance as gays. “I don’t see a parade of polygamists on Ste-Catherine Street,” observes the great jurist, marshalling the same dazzling quality of argument she used back in her days as the Supreme Court’s most outspoken activist on gay issues. A decade ago, she and Justice Michael Kirby, Australia’s most senior gay judge, traipsed from one gay-rights confab to another like the Elizabeth Taylor and Roddy McDowall of the international judicial cocktail circuit. But perhaps, back home in Canada, her ladyship ought to expand her excursions beyond the Ste-Catherine Street gay pride march. If you check in with, ahem, certain cultural communities in Canada, you will find polygamy not just “accepted” but government funded. It was confirmed last year that in the province of Ontario thousands of polygamous men receive welfare payments for each of their wives. There are many more takers for polygamy than there ever will be for gay marriage.

The Western world already accords de facto recognition to polygamy, in all kinds of areas. A couple of years back, Mohammed Anwar was stopped by police in Glasgow, Scotland, for doing 64 mph in a 30 mph zone. That would normally be enough for automatic disqualification from driving. But, appearing at Airdrie Sheriff’s Court, Mr. Anwar testified that he needed his car because he has one wife in Glasgow and another in Motherwell and he sleeps with them on alternate nights. Sheriff John C. Morris was persuaded by the Driving While Polygamous argument and ruled that the defendant could keep his driver’s licence. Congratulations! Make it one for my baby, one for my other baby, and one more for the road. Like Mr. Anwar, society is in the fast lane to second wives.

While Mme L’Heureux-Dubé’s objections may be sincere, the Government of Canada gives the distinct impression of going through the motions. Its objection to polygamy rests on the great wobbling blancmange of “Canadian values.” Polygamy is supposedly incompatible with “da Canadian value,” as M Chrétien used to call it. But surely da Canadian value is that we have no values. We value all values. To do otherwise would be profoundly un-Canadian. To be sure, there are sometimes theoretical contradictions between, say, women’s rights, on the one hand, and, on the other, arranged cousin marriages. But that’s all the more reason to give the likes of Chief Commissar Barbara Hall and her Ontario “Human Rights” Commission ever more powers to regulate ever more aspects of life in this blessed utopia. One assumes a so-called “conservative” government is standing its ground on the eternally shifting, whispering sands of “Canadian values” only as a little comic relief before the inevitable Supreme Court ruling.

Meanwhile, my esteemed colleague Andrew Coyne, doing his Mister Reasonable shtick, has dismissed the whole polygamy thing as an absurd distraction by the flailing Tories: “We may be spending at all-time record levels. We may be running $40-billion deficits, and bailing out auto companies, and ditching across-the-board tax cuts in favour of dozens of little social-engineering tax credits. We may have abandoned everything we ever stood for on Afghanistan, on Quebec, on corporate welfare, on foreign investment . . . But we’ll still protect you from a lot of imaginary threats like polygamy.”

Call me a hopeless Pollyanna, but I’d like to think a functioning G7 government could enact a coherent economic policy while still finding time to oppose polygamy. Still, to take Andrew’s broader argument, he’s in favour of decriminalization of plural marriage: after all, we let a chap screw as many women as he wants. What’s the big deal if he wants to marry them all? But in Canada nothing occurs in isolation. Take those multi-spousal welfare benefits in Ontario. In fairness to your big-time polygamist in Yemen or Waziristan, he has to do it on his own dime. If he wants to get the taxpayer to pick up the tab, he has to hop a flight to Toronto. East is east and west is west, and these days when the twain meet you usually get the worst of both worlds, of which government-funded polygamy would appear to be a near parodic example. But, in a Canada where common-law relationships already enjoy all but full equality with marriage, it’s easy to foresee the court decisions that would follow—on benefits, on “human rights” cases, on family-reunification immigration hearings. An insignificant number of gay couples would have greased the skids for a far larger cohort of heterosexual triples and quadruples. Indeed, for some polygamy proponents, that’s the point. A couple of years back, the Toronto Star quoted Martha Bailey advocating polygamy on economic grounds: “Stressing ‘the multicultural nature of Canadian society,’ Bailey claims that Canada has an urgent practical need for more Muslim immigrants. If Canada can just ‘expand the pool of applicants,’ says Bailey, it just may win ‘the global competition for highly skilled immigrants.’ ”

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  • http://andreacoates.blogspot.com Andrea

    Why do these debates focus on one man wanting to marry multiple women? A sad part of me thinks a great many people still see women as will-less tools. Gonna go feel deprived of my human value now.

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  • sirpatrick

    In 2003 when the landmark Texa sodomy case via the US Supreme Court ruled “the intimate, adult consensual conduct at issue here was part of the liberty protected by the substantive component of the Fourteenth Amendment’s due process protections” , A lot of folks thought that this would lead to homsexual marriage. Liberal activists insisted that this was not the case and it was not it their intention for gays to marry( nor, they said did they want to…) they just wanted equal protecetion as consenting adults.. Well….we all know what has since happened….Now people are saying gay “marriage” wont lead to polygamy…Suuureeee…It will happen within the year in some state or country…most likely Canada….

  • Sam Genest

    It’s a shame that polyamorous relationships are always depicted as a religious fundamentalist arrangement when in fact, a secular polyamorous relationship can be a very good thing for everybody involved and is often underrated.

    It’s time that people be more progressive with their relationships and look for what works with them.

  • canadian losers

    What a crock !!!! This is nothing more than another scam to exploit our generosity and leaky safety net. There’s already stories emerging about these (families?) collecting multiple family allowance cheques. People from all over the world come here and can”t believe what a piece of cake it is to score endless free dough from our sloppy government. The civil servants are bending over backwards to hand over the money. Denying their claims immediately launches “racism” allegations and potential involvement of that militant HRC. There’s no way they’re taking that risk. This is nothing more than a rehash of the old stories about Jamaican women having as many children as possible, to max -out the benefits level and coast through life. We are the patsies of the world and now there’s not a thing we can do about it, short of a revolution. Our governments find it far easier and much less contentious to just keep hammering us with more taxes, than to take on any of these issues. There is a limit to all of this nonsense and when we get there it won’t be a pretty picture.

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  • KarenD

    Why don't we just follow Saskatchewans progressive lead and allow Polygamy using provincial statutes that allow Polygamy?
    There may be other federal criminal code laws that provinces choose not to follow. as well, but at least the concept of provinces not having to follow fed laws is established in Sask.

  • jay

    It's interesting to me that so many who feel Mr. Steyn's article is but another practice in gay bashing, and, who feel his theoretical/legal bridge from legalized gay marriage to polygamy is preposterous and so made up. These fail to recognize how many of the comments written in response to his article not only see the bridge but having no problem driving over it (many don't even seem to see they've driven over it). Responder numbers 1 and 2 say, "Ha, no body would jump to such a silly conclusion!" and responder number 3 (it took all of 3) chimes in saying in effect, "What's wrong with Polygamy?" Wouldn't jump to such a conclusion? There ya go. No idea how we got there, but, ummm, there we go. Yeah, no body would ever make that leap – except loads of people posting responses here.. and, most likely, certain constitutional judges at some point in time. Remove the concept of a speed limit and there is no line – traveling 15 kph is no different than driving 51 khp and really no different than driving -51 kph (theoretically). Some people seem to be saying there's no connection between 51 and -51 becuase they are so very different (and far apart)… Mr. Steyn is saying, it doesn't matter how far apart or different they are – lose your measuring stick for speed and distance and difference are no longer definable or defendable.

  • Jay

    Ah, my bad… it didn't take 3 responses…, it took four to find our defender of the "preposterous and made up"…

  • Hal

    I’m not certain which is worse, this author’s rhetoric or his opinions. Did any of this rambling make much sense to anyone else? Whatever your stance, make an argument and back it up, rather than wasting space with homophobic ranting.
    I don’t appreciate the knock against Elizabeth Taylor and the late Roddy McDowall. Both have done more good in their lives for social groups of all sorts than you’d ever consider.

  • Tel

    Made sense to me.

  • Steven

    Hal : you don’t like his opinions – too bad. How about actually rebutting with facts what you think is so objectionable about Steyn’s argument rather than trotting out the usual claims of “homophobia”. Steyn is right – multiculturalism seems to have brought the worst of all worlds to Canada (apart from ethnic restaurants). As usual, people like you respond with unsupported vehemence in direct proportion to the strength of arguments such as those made by Steyn.

  • edeast

    His argument is there is no line to stop the marriage definition. There are no Canadian values that would justify not allowing polygamy. Unless you trusted a HR commission to determine what would be allowed or not. And why this matters is because of the multi-spousal welfare benefits. So a change in the legal definition of marriage has implications for resource allocation. And I argue over here that gay marriage could open up a challenge on the cloning ban, as an impingement of reproductive rights.

  • Rob

    Homophobic ranting?!? Where is there anything that could be construed as anti-gay in the article? That Steyn opposes gay marriage is clear inasmuch as if you’re busy re-defining marriage what so magical about the number two? If your believe that polygamy is culturally beyond the pale and could never be legalized as a result, well a generation ago gay marriage would have been unthinkable. Polygamists doesn’t have the same caché as gays in Hollywood (except perhaps Big Love) or the media but so what? Polygamy is far more widely accepted and practised around the world than is gay marriage.

    In my view, Steyn makes a strong argument that polygamy is the thin edge of the wedge in terms of the erosion of rights won by gays. When you take a close look at the broader outlook of those who practise polygamy for religious reasons, do you think they’d be more or less hostile toward gay rights? Too bad Steyn’s polemics often overshadow his arguments becasue there’s a lot more at stake here than whether or not we give a damn if a bunch of consenting adults want to get hitched.

  • Joan

    A very well constructed argument.Unlike the whining of gay activists and their liberal friends about the cruelty of denying them a piece of paper to showcase their love, Steyn’s arguments follow a logical progression.Of course when liberals gush over having “discussions” , it is always about others listening while they discuss and never the reverse.

  • lightduty

    I resent that. I routinely consider all sorts of good for social groups…

  • Dark_rose

    Just because some one has some real morals about certain things like gays for example (I would use a different word for gays by the way, just to be honest) doesn't mean they are "homophobic" you can stuff that crap. Some of us are simply a little clearer on whats right and wrong.

  • Mike T.

    You were funny when you were more of an obvious parody. This is just not cool.

  • Bill Simpson

    Fortunately he contradicts himself to zero:

    “The Catholic Church”
    “A tendency toward individualism”

    Ah, indeed, Catholicism and individualism – just like peas and carrots. And science too!

    Lib Fail – you’ll have to do better than this. It really is not worth typing out.

  • Terry

    Yep, a faith of 1 billion people, or a 1/6 of the earth’s population is definitely a monolith.

  • Bill Simpson

    I think you’ll find that individualism, science and representative government have developed DESPITE the Catholic Church and not because of it.

  • Terry

    Uh huh, because as every historian knows, there was a big black hole in scientific development, democratic government, and legal recognition of individual rights for 1500 years.

    Oh, except for of course the fact that you now use lowercase letters and punctuation. Oh, and the discovery of new elements unknown to the ancients. Oh, yeah, and the pesky university system with titles such as “master” and “doctor” that started out as cathedral schools. Oh, and the “Universal Declaration of Human Rights” which is pretty much cribbed from neo-Thomistic philosophy. Not to mention the encouragement of the empiricism of Aristotle that was unknown in the west, which made the birth of the scientific revolution possible.

    And countless other advancements in ethics, humanism, legal theory, and science undertaken under the patronage and approval of the church, because it has existed for 1500 freaking years. So take your revisionist history and shove it.

  • John.K

    You have to admit though, that the rapid acceleration of all those things in the 16th century occurred more-or-less simultaneously with the development of the first successful challengers to the Catholic church in Western Europe. Which could be an argument that the slower development in the first 1500 years was in spite of, not because of the institutional church.

  • Terry

    I dispute you on two fronts. First, the advance of the rapid development of technology and society does not correspond with the protestant reformation. In fact, the protestant reformation was in many ways disastrous for learning in Europe. There was a great mistrust and backlash against scholastic empiricism at this time, and various centers of learning were purged of intellectuals. The protestant authorities clamped down on various intellectuals who disputed the literal interpretation of the bible, and the catholic authorities clamped down on ideas that they saw as threats to their ecclesiastical authority. This is in contrast to the relative freedom scholars had to argue many positions and even debate established truths in previous centuries. It was considered important that arguments against the faith were articulated properly for example, so your arguments in support of the faith would be equally strenuous. There was also a genuine belief that religion, as truth, had nothing to fear from empirical study of the natural world.

    No, the rapid acceleration of science and technology occured long after the protestant reformation was settled, and largely did so in areas where empiricism as a viable philosophy was preserved. The flowering of the scientific method in the 18th century and the rise of private capital are what ensured that miracle of rapid technological progress, not the opposition of the Catholic church. Unless of course you can explain to me how the 16th and 17th centuries were such bastions of scientific progress as compared to the 13th to the 15th centuries.

  • John.K

    “This is in contrast to the relative freedom scholars had to argue many positions and even debate established truths in previous centuries”

    Tell it to the Cathars….

  • Terry

    Sure, if you mean a sect that essentially disrupted the entire order of the region, assassinated and drove various ecclesiastical officials out of the region, and engaged in various tit for tat skirmishes with the established religious and secular officials over a couple of generations.

    Yep, nothing but an academic disagreement there.

  • John.K

    I think you are conflating the suppression of the Cathar heresy with the civil war that raged in the Languedoc in the latter part of the period. Count Raymond was a Cathar, but it was the French coveting his lands that was the reason for the war. Of course at that time the Church was a temporal power and thus involved in the war. The wholesale massacre of peasants who adopted the heresy, and those who preached it was something else, and started well before the assassinations of which you speak.

  • Hal

    My apologies! Turns out it was an eloquent, well-constructed article. I’d just forgotten to take off my glasses, turn the magazine upside down, and read it in the dark.

  • Hal

    Did you just suggest that the only upside to multiculturalism is the food?
    Charming.

  • Ruffian

    Not abnormal behavior. Between gays there is a true attraction of opposites but gays are oriented in reverse before birth. Do you follow. Gays are capable of attraction, commitment and lifelong devotion the same as anyone else. Many species are capable of pairing for life in the same way and they don’t need a church or piece of paper to enforce it.
    I have always felt that the description ” same sex” was misleading because despite appearances, the orientation is opposite and attractive. Most people don’t see this but they see the terminology and say yuk this is abnormal.

  • sf

    Whether or not it is normal or abnormal, it is certainly different.

  • sf

    There’s also the music.

    Frankly, I don’t mid having lots of people coming to Canada from all over the world. Bring them in. But I don’t see what culture has to do with it. I hope that they all show respect to the institutions that have been built in Canada, including marriage.

  • Hal

    I agree. The law of the land is law.
    You’re assuming, however, that the people wanting the changes are from outside the country. I don’t agree with the isolation and arranged marriages of minors to elders, but the Mormon polygamists are home-grown pioneers. I’m a fourth generation Canadian and a supporter of same-sex marriages. It’s hard to tell someone to play by the House Rules when factions of the house are divided.

  • Chuck80

    I agree with Hal.

    Poor old Markie is always good for a giggle is ! Yet, eternal optimist that I am, I still live in hope that one day I will see a column, an article – anything – by him that is not hysterically anti-Muslim and projects some or other amusing or ridiculous quirk of that religion or its followers (as though nothing similar could be found on the Christian side) as representative of the world’s billion-plus Muslims.

    Against the background of today’s economic problems, I doubt whether Canada or any other Western country faces anything like a real problem if a few people practise polygamy – and even if they claim benefits. The sums of taxpayers’ money involved are “a fart in the Sahara” in the overall scheme of things.

    Naturally, I’m always a bit sceptical of devoted gay-bashers like Markie – always feel uneasy when I’m around them, as I think homophobia is often an indication that its source is a bit dodgy himself. I won’t be inviting Markie to my sauna any time soon. LOL

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