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	<title>Comments on: Michael Ignatieff&#039;s pronoun problem</title>
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		<title>By: Lucho Carrasco</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/05/16/michael-ignatieffs-pronoun-problem/comment-page-3/#comment-118495</link>
		<dc:creator>Lucho Carrasco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 04:42:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Canadian Constitution grant to any Canadian -not because this person born here, nor because he lived here, as Layton or Harper to name somebody- the right to vote, to elect, or to be elected. Anything said in contrary is a non sense, a demagogical argument for desqualify to a dangerous political oponent. Layton never had lived in Danforth Ave. nevertheless he is the MP representative of the Greek-Chinese-Canadian sector of Toronto. Harper lived in Toronto but got his title in Alberta, because UofT was to hard for him ... so what he, to-day is the PM of Pan-Canada. All this is a very silly NDP-NCP propaganda to stop Liberals running without obstacles to win next election.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Canadian Constitution grant to any Canadian -not because this person born here, nor because he lived here, as Layton or Harper to name somebody- the right to vote, to elect, or to be elected. Anything said in contrary is a non sense, a demagogical argument for desqualify to a dangerous political oponent. Layton never had lived in Danforth Ave. nevertheless he is the MP representative of the Greek-Chinese-Canadian sector of Toronto. Harper lived in Toronto but got his title in Alberta, because UofT was to hard for him &#8230; so what he, to-day is the PM of Pan-Canada. All this is a very silly NDP-NCP propaganda to stop Liberals running without obstacles to win next election.</p>
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		<title>By: hollinm</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/05/16/michael-ignatieffs-pronoun-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-118494</link>
		<dc:creator>hollinm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 01:52:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t need talking points from anyone. Get stuffed!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t need talking points from anyone. Get stuffed!</p>
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		<title>By: hollinm</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/05/16/michael-ignatieffs-pronoun-problem/comment-page-3/#comment-118493</link>
		<dc:creator>hollinm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 01:50:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James...I don&#039;t think you know what you are talking about. The old hidden agenda talking point rears its ugly head again.

Well the shoe is on the other foot my friend. It is the Count who appears to have a hidden agenda i.e. higher taxes, a coalition if necessary but not necessarily a coalition, torture, maybe, maybe not, support for Iraq war, maybe, maybe not, Israel committed war crimes, maybe, maybe not, oil sands good, maybe, maybe not. The slate is blank because he has spoken on each of these issues and quickly repudiated his position. So we shall see who has the hidden agenda my friend. That Liberal talking point is so passe. You need to find something else to talk about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James&#8230;I don&#8217;t think you know what you are talking about. The old hidden agenda talking point rears its ugly head again.</p>
<p>Well the shoe is on the other foot my friend. It is the Count who appears to have a hidden agenda i.e. higher taxes, a coalition if necessary but not necessarily a coalition, torture, maybe, maybe not, support for Iraq war, maybe, maybe not, Israel committed war crimes, maybe, maybe not, oil sands good, maybe, maybe not. The slate is blank because he has spoken on each of these issues and quickly repudiated his position. So we shall see who has the hidden agenda my friend. That Liberal talking point is so passe. You need to find something else to talk about.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Wordsworth</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/05/16/michael-ignatieffs-pronoun-problem/comment-page-3/#comment-118492</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Wordsworth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 20:02:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed, Michael Ignatieff&#039;s previous support for the Iraq War and his defense of coercive interrogations as the &quot;lesser evil&quot; are not the only examples of American politics commingling with those of Canada.

Last week Barack Obama gave a commencement speech at Notre Dame, where he was received by protesters angry at him for his positions regarding abortion.  Less reported was the group of students displeased with Stephen Harper for using their school&#039;s mascot as his Finance Minster.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed, Michael Ignatieff&#8217;s previous support for the Iraq War and his defense of coercive interrogations as the &#8220;lesser evil&#8221; are not the only examples of American politics commingling with those of Canada.</p>
<p>Last week Barack Obama gave a commencement speech at Notre Dame, where he was received by protesters angry at him for his positions regarding abortion.  Less reported was the group of students displeased with Stephen Harper for using their school&#8217;s mascot as his Finance Minster.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/05/16/michael-ignatieffs-pronoun-problem/comment-page-3/#comment-118491</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 16:58:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you about the &#039;brain flush&#039;. I think if we want to prosper as a nation 20 years from now we need to start investing in an information economy. It&#039;s obvious our manufacturing sector can&#039;t hope to compete against other nations. We should be investing in research and development (especially with things like Stem Cell research) and encouraging more &#039;Research In Motion&#039; type companies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you about the &#8216;brain flush&#8217;. I think if we want to prosper as a nation 20 years from now we need to start investing in an information economy. It&#8217;s obvious our manufacturing sector can&#8217;t hope to compete against other nations. We should be investing in research and development (especially with things like Stem Cell research) and encouraging more &#8216;Research In Motion&#8217; type companies.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 16:21:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most Conservatives I know aren&#039;t happy with the middle of the road policies Harper is using. The general consensus seems to be &quot;we&#039;ll stick it out like this until we have a majority, and then we can start enacting the Conservative legislation we want&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most Conservatives I know aren&#8217;t happy with the middle of the road policies Harper is using. The general consensus seems to be &#8220;we&#8217;ll stick it out like this until we have a majority, and then we can start enacting the Conservative legislation we want&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Wordsworth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin Wordsworth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 14:57:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dumbocracy

Unfortunately, Canadians are going to have to get used to importing intellectuals to do our thinking jobs, because we have done our darndest to make sure ideas do not grow here.

The politically correct police seem to have an abundance of units on hand to hunt down anyone so sinister as to persecute any minority group, be they blacks, gays, women, immigrants, or employees of Ruby Dhalla.  But there is one minority who receives no such sympathy, indeed one to whom no amount of abuse is deemed sufficient - the intellectuals.

Our economy fundamentally functions by the masses extorting money from the few who were intelligent enough to develop a product that other people actually wanted to buy.  This is a culture in which the word profit seems to be defined as &quot;sinful blood money acquired by social parasites by exploiting the needs of honest citizens&quot;.

We are quickly becoming a helpless nation that can&#039;t produce anything, surviving only because we are fortunate enough to have vast natural resources which we can ship to the productive parts of the world.  We have an &quot;education&quot; system in which the today&#039;s useless train tomorrow&#039;s useless.  Our youth graduate from our universities and, having absolutely no salable skills, are forced to go to the only employer for whom skills are irrelevant and nescience is a plus - the government.

You know what they say, those who can, do; those who can&#039;t, teach; and those who can&#039;t teach, run for office.

We have set up a system that is so hostile to the thinking man and woman that there are no options for our bright minds but to flee to places where their assets are not viewed as liabilities.

We like to call it the brain drain, but in Canada brains are not drained, they&#039;re flushed.

We&#039;ve exchanged our free thinking for those who are free OF thinking.

To borrow a sentence from Vladimir Nabokov and apply it to my home and native land, &quot;Ideas in modern [Canada] are machine-cut blocks coming out in solid colo[u]rs&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dumbocracy</p>
<p>Unfortunately, Canadians are going to have to get used to importing intellectuals to do our thinking jobs, because we have done our darndest to make sure ideas do not grow here.</p>
<p>The politically correct police seem to have an abundance of units on hand to hunt down anyone so sinister as to persecute any minority group, be they blacks, gays, women, immigrants, or employees of Ruby Dhalla.  But there is one minority who receives no such sympathy, indeed one to whom no amount of abuse is deemed sufficient &#8211; the intellectuals.</p>
<p>Our economy fundamentally functions by the masses extorting money from the few who were intelligent enough to develop a product that other people actually wanted to buy.  This is a culture in which the word profit seems to be defined as &#8220;sinful blood money acquired by social parasites by exploiting the needs of honest citizens&#8221;.</p>
<p>We are quickly becoming a helpless nation that can&#8217;t produce anything, surviving only because we are fortunate enough to have vast natural resources which we can ship to the productive parts of the world.  We have an &#8220;education&#8221; system in which the today&#8217;s useless train tomorrow&#8217;s useless.  Our youth graduate from our universities and, having absolutely no salable skills, are forced to go to the only employer for whom skills are irrelevant and nescience is a plus &#8211; the government.</p>
<p>You know what they say, those who can, do; those who can&#8217;t, teach; and those who can&#8217;t teach, run for office.</p>
<p>We have set up a system that is so hostile to the thinking man and woman that there are no options for our bright minds but to flee to places where their assets are not viewed as liabilities.</p>
<p>We like to call it the brain drain, but in Canada brains are not drained, they&#8217;re flushed.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve exchanged our free thinking for those who are free OF thinking.</p>
<p>To borrow a sentence from Vladimir Nabokov and apply it to my home and native land, &#8220;Ideas in modern [Canada] are machine-cut blocks coming out in solid colo[u]rs&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: hollinm</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/05/16/michael-ignatieffs-pronoun-problem/comment-page-3/#comment-118488</link>
		<dc:creator>hollinm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 11:51:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kc......

There are many people who do not agree that political parties should be funded by taxpayers. Having said that I agree with you that the matter should have been brought up with separate legislation and debated in the House. However, as you acknowledge all parties practice wedge politics and so I guess its ok for other parties to do it but that damn Conservative government must be held to a higher standard.

The Count is playing wedge politics as we speak. He is arguing for an unreasonable number of hours to qualify for employment insurance i.e. 360 hours or approx. 10 weeks to collect a years&#039; worth of EI. Iggy knows that Ontario unemployment is increasing and so if he can pressure the government the people of Ontario may reward him in the next election. The fact remains the Liberals introduced the current EI policy as they took the notional $50 billion surplus in that fund to cover the deficit. Hyprocrisy that is the name for the Liberal party and its supporters these days.

As for proroguing parliament...he did not prorogue parliament the GG did. The PM has no power to prorogue. So get your facts straight. Did he recommend to the GG that was the best course of action for the country as it headed into a world wide recession and that the alternative would be an unstable government because it would have given veto power to the Bloc over every piece of legislation that would have been presented under a coalition government you bet. The GG agreed. She could have said no face the House but she didn&#039;t.

It is you and the rest of the Liberal syncophants that are tedious my friend. Get some new talking points.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kc&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>There are many people who do not agree that political parties should be funded by taxpayers. Having said that I agree with you that the matter should have been brought up with separate legislation and debated in the House. However, as you acknowledge all parties practice wedge politics and so I guess its ok for other parties to do it but that damn Conservative government must be held to a higher standard.</p>
<p>The Count is playing wedge politics as we speak. He is arguing for an unreasonable number of hours to qualify for employment insurance i.e. 360 hours or approx. 10 weeks to collect a years&#8217; worth of EI. Iggy knows that Ontario unemployment is increasing and so if he can pressure the government the people of Ontario may reward him in the next election. The fact remains the Liberals introduced the current EI policy as they took the notional $50 billion surplus in that fund to cover the deficit. Hyprocrisy that is the name for the Liberal party and its supporters these days.</p>
<p>As for proroguing parliament&#8230;he did not prorogue parliament the GG did. The PM has no power to prorogue. So get your facts straight. Did he recommend to the GG that was the best course of action for the country as it headed into a world wide recession and that the alternative would be an unstable government because it would have given veto power to the Bloc over every piece of legislation that would have been presented under a coalition government you bet. The GG agreed. She could have said no face the House but she didn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>It is you and the rest of the Liberal syncophants that are tedious my friend. Get some new talking points.</p>
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		<title>By: hollinm</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/05/16/michael-ignatieffs-pronoun-problem/comment-page-3/#comment-118487</link>
		<dc:creator>hollinm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 11:35:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Absoultely right!

The pundits, media, press gallery and of course the Liberals want the Conservatives to just sit back and allow Iggy to do his thing without any push back. Well that isn&#039;t going to happen. Harper knows how to play the Liberal game maybe better than they do.

The Liberals and some posters on this board will continue to attack the PM personally calling him all manner of things. There is no evidence he is as they portray him but that doesn&#039;t stop their talking points from calling him those names. That&#039;s because the Conservative policies are middle of the road so they can only try to destroy the PM personally. It really is sad to watch. There should be some truth ads run against the media in this country.

Because the media has been determined by the Canadian public to be dishonest, biased and unbalanced in their coverage they discount what they have to say and gather their own views from a variety of sources. Despite the criticisms of the media and the opposition parties the public believes the Harper government is doing a good job managing the economy through this recession. Too bad, so sad for the Liberals.

The media will  not learn the lesson that Canadians want unbiased political coverage and so the public and by extension the advertisers are abandoning both the print and electronic media in troves. That is why they are in financial trouble today. If they won&#039;t deliver the product the consumer wants the consumer will go elsewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absoultely right!</p>
<p>The pundits, media, press gallery and of course the Liberals want the Conservatives to just sit back and allow Iggy to do his thing without any push back. Well that isn&#8217;t going to happen. Harper knows how to play the Liberal game maybe better than they do.</p>
<p>The Liberals and some posters on this board will continue to attack the PM personally calling him all manner of things. There is no evidence he is as they portray him but that doesn&#8217;t stop their talking points from calling him those names. That&#8217;s because the Conservative policies are middle of the road so they can only try to destroy the PM personally. It really is sad to watch. There should be some truth ads run against the media in this country.</p>
<p>Because the media has been determined by the Canadian public to be dishonest, biased and unbalanced in their coverage they discount what they have to say and gather their own views from a variety of sources. Despite the criticisms of the media and the opposition parties the public believes the Harper government is doing a good job managing the economy through this recession. Too bad, so sad for the Liberals.</p>
<p>The media will  not learn the lesson that Canadians want unbiased political coverage and so the public and by extension the advertisers are abandoning both the print and electronic media in troves. That is why they are in financial trouble today. If they won&#8217;t deliver the product the consumer wants the consumer will go elsewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: kc</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/05/16/michael-ignatieffs-pronoun-problem/comment-page-3/#comment-118486</link>
		<dc:creator>kc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 06:48:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hollnim
Well you and i are certainly looking at the world through opposite ends of the telescope. Harper lives for wedge politics, but i never said he invented them. As for his baser instincts...hmmm. Let&#039;s see. Attempting to cut off funding to other political parties with no prior consultation or public debate, poroguing parliament and trying to undermine the authority of the GG to save his own skin. It&#039;s reall too tedious to go on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hollnim<br />
Well you and i are certainly looking at the world through opposite ends of the telescope. Harper lives for wedge politics, but i never said he invented them. As for his baser instincts&#8230;hmmm. Let&#8217;s see. Attempting to cut off funding to other political parties with no prior consultation or public debate, poroguing parliament and trying to undermine the authority of the GG to save his own skin. It&#8217;s reall too tedious to go on.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 06:04:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And the chattering classes verdictg on Harper, &quot;not a gentleman.&quot; He simply will not behave as  a proper Conservative and lose gracefully like Stanfield and Clark.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And the chattering classes verdictg on Harper, &#8220;not a gentleman.&#8221; He simply will not behave as  a proper Conservative and lose gracefully like Stanfield and Clark.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 03:29:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There seems to be a conservative strategy to paint the Liberals as a sinister behind-closed-doors organization. Personally I&#039;m more afraid of a party that&#039;s completely controlled by one man and that completely sells out all of it&#039;s ideals in the search for a majority government.

Harper has not made Canada a world voice, unless you consider gaining us a reputation as a country that will not fight for it&#039;s citizens abroad when they&#039;re in foreign prisons.

When the Liberals were in power, we consistently ranked in the top five of all the UN &#039;best places to live&#039; lists (Countries with best health care systems, countries with best quality of life etc.) We had the perfect balance as a country that you could come to invest in, and as a country that stood for social justice all over the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There seems to be a conservative strategy to paint the Liberals as a sinister behind-closed-doors organization. Personally I&#8217;m more afraid of a party that&#8217;s completely controlled by one man and that completely sells out all of it&#8217;s ideals in the search for a majority government.</p>
<p>Harper has not made Canada a world voice, unless you consider gaining us a reputation as a country that will not fight for it&#8217;s citizens abroad when they&#8217;re in foreign prisons.</p>
<p>When the Liberals were in power, we consistently ranked in the top five of all the UN &#8216;best places to live&#8217; lists (Countries with best health care systems, countries with best quality of life etc.) We had the perfect balance as a country that you could come to invest in, and as a country that stood for social justice all over the world.</p>
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		<title>By: hiedijais</title>
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		<dc:creator>hiedijais</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 02:37:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Harper has his issues which may keep him from a majority win but the Liberals just recieved their most crushing defeat in the history of the party...

I mean if the deep dark hole of the dark ages fear mongering is working so well why is the Liberal party where it is today?

They have no policies to fix the problems, they state that they will increase the GST, they will not distance themselves from a Carbon Tax, they just tried to form a coalition with the NDP and the Bloc to cheat their way into power, the Canadain public hated them for trying to form the coalition, they just undemicratically appointed a new leader that has no real idea who Candians are etc etc etc and Joe public is now seeing thru the media lies...

So I&#039;m really not seeing where you are getting the idea that the Candian public in thier wildest dreams believes that the CPC are going to drag us into the dark ages.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harper has his issues which may keep him from a majority win but the Liberals just recieved their most crushing defeat in the history of the party&#8230;</p>
<p>I mean if the deep dark hole of the dark ages fear mongering is working so well why is the Liberal party where it is today?</p>
<p>They have no policies to fix the problems, they state that they will increase the GST, they will not distance themselves from a Carbon Tax, they just tried to form a coalition with the NDP and the Bloc to cheat their way into power, the Canadain public hated them for trying to form the coalition, they just undemicratically appointed a new leader that has no real idea who Candians are etc etc etc and Joe public is now seeing thru the media lies&#8230;</p>
<p>So I&#8217;m really not seeing where you are getting the idea that the Candian public in thier wildest dreams believes that the CPC are going to drag us into the dark ages.</p>
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		<title>By: hollinm</title>
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		<dc:creator>hollinm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 02:36:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kc ....let&#039;s see if you say the same thing about the Liberals should they win a minority government the next time out. You know as well as I do with the Bloc taking 40-50 seats and having 4 opposition parties (including the Greens) its going to be very difficult for any federalist party to win a majority come the next election.
I don&#039;t see the wedge politics that you talk about. Yes the Conservative party ads were effective in portraying Dion a certain way because he reinforced that image with his every utterance.

The Liberals have used wedge politics very effectively over the years and of course because they are Liberals that is quit all well with their syncophants and the media at large.

The opposition feels it is their job to oppose everything under the guise that it is Harper&#039;s fault that Parliament is not working. The opposition do not offer counter legislation but merely oppose  and accuse the government of bad faith.

The opposition is using the minority government situation to threaten the government at every turn with defeat if they don&#039;t agree with their demands. This is not governing for the good of the country. It is simply playing partisan politics.

What baser instincts are you referring to by the way. What is it that he has done that is so terrible in your mind? Or are you simply spouting Liberal and media talking points?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kc &#8230;.let&#8217;s see if you say the same thing about the Liberals should they win a minority government the next time out. You know as well as I do with the Bloc taking 40-50 seats and having 4 opposition parties (including the Greens) its going to be very difficult for any federalist party to win a majority come the next election.<br />
I don&#8217;t see the wedge politics that you talk about. Yes the Conservative party ads were effective in portraying Dion a certain way because he reinforced that image with his every utterance.</p>
<p>The Liberals have used wedge politics very effectively over the years and of course because they are Liberals that is quit all well with their syncophants and the media at large.</p>
<p>The opposition feels it is their job to oppose everything under the guise that it is Harper&#8217;s fault that Parliament is not working. The opposition do not offer counter legislation but merely oppose  and accuse the government of bad faith.</p>
<p>The opposition is using the minority government situation to threaten the government at every turn with defeat if they don&#8217;t agree with their demands. This is not governing for the good of the country. It is simply playing partisan politics.</p>
<p>What baser instincts are you referring to by the way. What is it that he has done that is so terrible in your mind? Or are you simply spouting Liberal and media talking points?</p>
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		<title>By: hollinm</title>
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		<dc:creator>hollinm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 02:24:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hiedijais
 says: May 19, 2009 at 5:09 pm

You need to really take a pill lady (If that&#039;s what you are). This is a conversation on politics not a physcological session.

Make your arguments no matter how silly they are and quit attacking other posters.l</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hiedijais<br />
 says: May 19, 2009 at 5:09 pm</p>
<p>You need to really take a pill lady (If that&#8217;s what you are). This is a conversation on politics not a physcological session.</p>
<p>Make your arguments no matter how silly they are and quit attacking other posters.l</p>
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		<title>By: kc</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/05/16/michael-ignatieffs-pronoun-problem/comment-page-3/#comment-118480</link>
		<dc:creator>kc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 23:15:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Evidentially Canadians agree with G. Small, not you. Harper&#039;s had his chance at a majority, but he&#039;s been too small minded and too addicted to petty wedge politics to seize his opportunity. I beleive SH will go down as a failure, when the historians finally get to look at his time as PM - promising, but unable to rise above his baser instincts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Evidentially Canadians agree with G. Small, not you. Harper&#8217;s had his chance at a majority, but he&#8217;s been too small minded and too addicted to petty wedge politics to seize his opportunity. I beleive SH will go down as a failure, when the historians finally get to look at his time as PM &#8211; promising, but unable to rise above his baser instincts.</p>
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		<title>By: Critical Reasoning</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/05/16/michael-ignatieffs-pronoun-problem/comment-page-3/#comment-118479</link>
		<dc:creator>Critical Reasoning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 21:45:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heidi, I&#039;ll just clarify one point:  Jack&#039;s patriotism is unquestionable.  He is an exemplary citizen who is very much engaged in the affairs of his country.  It&#039;s not hard to see why he would respond emotionally to your &quot;not a real Canadian&quot; slur.  Hopefully, there is a lesson to be learned from all this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heidi, I&#8217;ll just clarify one point:  Jack&#8217;s patriotism is unquestionable.  He is an exemplary citizen who is very much engaged in the affairs of his country.  It&#8217;s not hard to see why he would respond emotionally to your &#8220;not a real Canadian&#8221; slur.  Hopefully, there is a lesson to be learned from all this.</p>
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		<title>By: hiedijais</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/05/16/michael-ignatieffs-pronoun-problem/comment-page-3/#comment-118478</link>
		<dc:creator>hiedijais</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 21:40:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There there now I am sorry that I upset you and questioned you&#039;re loyalties...

Hope that makes it better...

and of course I have no hard feelings towards you this is just the internet... ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There there now I am sorry that I upset you and questioned you&#8217;re loyalties&#8230;</p>
<p>Hope that makes it better&#8230;</p>
<p>and of course I have no hard feelings towards you this is just the internet&#8230; ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Mitchell</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/05/16/michael-ignatieffs-pronoun-problem/comment-page-3/#comment-118477</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack Mitchell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 21:35:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course there are hard feelings.  Attacking a patriot&#039;s national identity is unforgivable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course there are hard feelings.  Attacking a patriot&#8217;s national identity is unforgivable.</p>
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		<title>By: hiedijais</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/05/16/michael-ignatieffs-pronoun-problem/comment-page-3/#comment-118476</link>
		<dc:creator>hiedijais</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 21:33:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry CR posted the last comment before I saw yours, as you can see by my other comments I will give rational non-emotional responses unless someone tries to go after me like our friend has been doing...

RM thank you I haven&#039;t had this much fun at anothers expense in a long time.

No hard feeling ok... ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry CR posted the last comment before I saw yours, as you can see by my other comments I will give rational non-emotional responses unless someone tries to go after me like our friend has been doing&#8230;</p>
<p>RM thank you I haven&#8217;t had this much fun at anothers expense in a long time.</p>
<p>No hard feeling ok&#8230; ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Mitchell</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/05/16/michael-ignatieffs-pronoun-problem/comment-page-3/#comment-118475</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack Mitchell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 21:32:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Regardless of who started it, or who said what, life is simply too short for angry flame wars.&quot;

Quite right, CR.  But the day I let someone tell me I&#039;m not a real Canadian, and decide to be sensible and walk away, will never dawn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Regardless of who started it, or who said what, life is simply too short for angry flame wars.&#8221;</p>
<p>Quite right, CR.  But the day I let someone tell me I&#8217;m not a real Canadian, and decide to be sensible and walk away, will never dawn.</p>
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		<title>By: hiedijais</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/05/16/michael-ignatieffs-pronoun-problem/comment-page-3/#comment-118474</link>
		<dc:creator>hiedijais</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 21:27:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your still attacking you should let go before you have a heart attack...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your still attacking you should let go before you have a heart attack&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Critical Reasoning</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/05/16/michael-ignatieffs-pronoun-problem/comment-page-3/#comment-118473</link>
		<dc:creator>Critical Reasoning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 21:25:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Sick. It’s a shame all the good teachers have to tolerate people like you in their ranks.&lt;/i&gt;

Jack, Heidi, this is getting a bit out of hand.  I humbly and respectfully suggest that both of you step back,  take a deep breath, and relax.  Regardless of who started it, or who said what, life is simply too short for angry flame wars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Sick. It’s a shame all the good teachers have to tolerate people like you in their ranks.</i></p>
<p>Jack, Heidi, this is getting a bit out of hand.  I humbly and respectfully suggest that both of you step back,  take a deep breath, and relax.  Regardless of who started it, or who said what, life is simply too short for angry flame wars.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Mitchell</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/05/16/michael-ignatieffs-pronoun-problem/comment-page-3/#comment-118472</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack Mitchell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 21:19:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You told me, &quot;JM you ovbiously haven’t a clue who/what a real Canadian is.&quot;  You&#039;re the benighted bully, Heidi.  You think you can waltz around passing sentence on who&#039;s a real Canadian and who&#039;s not.  I bit back and now I&#039;m a &quot;bully.&quot;

I can see why people like you want to be kindergarten teachers, actually.  You get to boss people around all day, tell them when to sit down and when to stand up, and if a kid rejects your bullying you get to insult him to your heart&#039;s content, all the while telling yourself you&#039;re helping him out.  Sick.  It&#039;s a shame all the good teachers have to tolerate people like you in their ranks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You told me, &#8220;JM you ovbiously haven’t a clue who/what a real Canadian is.&#8221;  You&#8217;re the benighted bully, Heidi.  You think you can waltz around passing sentence on who&#8217;s a real Canadian and who&#8217;s not.  I bit back and now I&#8217;m a &#8220;bully.&#8221;</p>
<p>I can see why people like you want to be kindergarten teachers, actually.  You get to boss people around all day, tell them when to sit down and when to stand up, and if a kid rejects your bullying you get to insult him to your heart&#8217;s content, all the while telling yourself you&#8217;re helping him out.  Sick.  It&#8217;s a shame all the good teachers have to tolerate people like you in their ranks.</p>
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		<title>By: hiedijais</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/05/16/michael-ignatieffs-pronoun-problem/comment-page-3/#comment-118471</link>
		<dc:creator>hiedijais</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 21:09:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Facts are facts and bullies are bullies and I see that you ignore the facts by spewing emotionally, I also see that you are refusing to admit that you are an internet bully which is extremely common...

Read this and see if the shoe fits, I&#039;m thinking low self-esteem &amp; seething with resentment especially when a woman stands up to you...  :)

What is a Bully

Bullies are present in all walks of life and much of what is on here will be transferable outside the workplace.

The definitions of a bully are:

1) To treat in an overbearing or intimidating manner.
2) To make (one&#039;s way) aggressively.
3) To force one&#039;s way aggressively or by intimidation.
4) To provide persistent, unwelcome behaviour.

Projection behaviour and denial are hallmarks of the serial bully. It is believed by some that bullying is present behind all forms of harassment, discrimination, prejudice, abuse, persecution, conflict and violence.

What bullies fear most is exposure and being called publicly to account for their behaviour so they can go to great lengths to keep their target (victim) quiet from misdirection when it is reported to using threats of disciplinary action, dismissal, gagging clauses and fear.

Despite the facade that such people put up, bullies have another side to them. What complicates matters is that the  bully may not be aware or acknowledge to themselves they very often suffer from one or more of the following:

# Low self-confidence
# Low self-esteem
# Feel insecure
# Seething with resentment
# Bitterness
# Hatred
# Anger
# Envy
# Jealousy
# Inadequacy
# And may have a wide range of prejudices as a vehicle for dumping anger onto others.

A bully may not always be aware that they are bullying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Facts are facts and bullies are bullies and I see that you ignore the facts by spewing emotionally, I also see that you are refusing to admit that you are an internet bully which is extremely common&#8230;</p>
<p>Read this and see if the shoe fits, I&#8217;m thinking low self-esteem &amp; seething with resentment especially when a woman stands up to you&#8230;  :)</p>
<p>What is a Bully</p>
<p>Bullies are present in all walks of life and much of what is on here will be transferable outside the workplace.</p>
<p>The definitions of a bully are:</p>
<p>1) To treat in an overbearing or intimidating manner.<br />
2) To make (one&#8217;s way) aggressively.<br />
3) To force one&#8217;s way aggressively or by intimidation.<br />
4) To provide persistent, unwelcome behaviour.</p>
<p>Projection behaviour and denial are hallmarks of the serial bully. It is believed by some that bullying is present behind all forms of harassment, discrimination, prejudice, abuse, persecution, conflict and violence.</p>
<p>What bullies fear most is exposure and being called publicly to account for their behaviour so they can go to great lengths to keep their target (victim) quiet from misdirection when it is reported to using threats of disciplinary action, dismissal, gagging clauses and fear.</p>
<p>Despite the facade that such people put up, bullies have another side to them. What complicates matters is that the  bully may not be aware or acknowledge to themselves they very often suffer from one or more of the following:</p>
<p># Low self-confidence<br />
# Low self-esteem<br />
# Feel insecure<br />
# Seething with resentment<br />
# Bitterness<br />
# Hatred<br />
# Anger<br />
# Envy<br />
# Jealousy<br />
# Inadequacy<br />
# And may have a wide range of prejudices as a vehicle for dumping anger onto others.</p>
<p>A bully may not always be aware that they are bullying.</p>
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		<title>By: Canadian Sentinel</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/05/16/michael-ignatieffs-pronoun-problem/comment-page-2/#comment-118470</link>
		<dc:creator>Canadian Sentinel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 21:00:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Peter, we see a President of America who hasn&#039;t proven that he was born in America, yet the question of his constitutional eligibility is being censored and many are too afraid to raise it, including high-profile conservatives.

So, given this bizarre, inexplicable situation, I&#039;d say anything&#039;s possible.

If the Big Media in Canada had its way and the Conservatives were unable to or forbidden by law to have these so-called &quot;attack&quot; (they&#039;re really &lt;i&gt;informational&lt;/i&gt;) ads about Iggy, then, well, Canadians wouldn&#039;t really know enough about Iggy to vote against him.

 And when it comes to the Liberals, too many Canadians will often vote for them automatically, absent any compelling negative reason(s) not to.  It&#039;s pretty much a matter of   &quot;I&#039;ll vote Liberal, unless I hear lots of awful stuff about them that&#039;s proven true or verifiable as such&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Peter, we see a President of America who hasn&#8217;t proven that he was born in America, yet the question of his constitutional eligibility is being censored and many are too afraid to raise it, including high-profile conservatives.</p>
<p>So, given this bizarre, inexplicable situation, I&#8217;d say anything&#8217;s possible.</p>
<p>If the Big Media in Canada had its way and the Conservatives were unable to or forbidden by law to have these so-called &#8220;attack&#8221; (they&#8217;re really <i>informational</i>) ads about Iggy, then, well, Canadians wouldn&#8217;t really know enough about Iggy to vote against him.</p>
<p> And when it comes to the Liberals, too many Canadians will often vote for them automatically, absent any compelling negative reason(s) not to.  It&#8217;s pretty much a matter of   &#8220;I&#8217;ll vote Liberal, unless I hear lots of awful stuff about them that&#8217;s proven true or verifiable as such&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Canadian Sentinel</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/05/16/michael-ignatieffs-pronoun-problem/comment-page-2/#comment-118469</link>
		<dc:creator>Canadian Sentinel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 20:50:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Geoff, I&#039;m glad you have such faith in the intelligence of swing voters in Canada.

The problem is, however, that they&#039;re too bloody busy with work, family, etc. and too short on time to be able to properly inform themselves.  The Big Media is one huge cluster-bomb anti-Tory attack ad and they fall for it, one bad, manipulative headline and &quot;expert comment&quot; after another.  And history has proven time and again that, despite folks automatically saying, when asked, that they despise &quot;attack ads&quot;, they still do work for them, especially if they&#039;re purely truth-based, as are the current grouping of Tory &quot;This is Ignatieff&quot; ads.

Besides, Canadians don&#039;t know jack about Iggy.  Therefore the ads are informative for them, and they&#039;ll be appreciative for the convenience they offer, as they&#039;re not getting anything from the Big Media about Iggy, except idol worship and whatnot, with the negative stuff about Iggy either covered up or downplayed, relative to the treatment Mr. Harper gets.

And, really, when one watches the ads, one &lt;i&gt;doesn&#039;t&lt;/i&gt; get the impression that they&#039;re over the top or beyond the pale or whatever.  I mean, they don&#039;t make Iggy look like Adolf H., nor do they claim that Iggy&#039;s going to have guys with machine guns all over the place in Canada or anything so unbelieveable.

Don&#039;t believe the Opposition and Big, Liberal-preferring Media spin about the ads.  One needs to watch them for oneself and decide all by oneself about them.

The ads, objectively, will work.  Just watch the coming polls...

And can you furnish us with irrefutable proof that it was the Republican Party of the United States who actually invented the negative political ad?  That would make your claim that it&#039;s a &quot;Republican tactic&quot; believable.   Thanx!  ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Geoff, I&#8217;m glad you have such faith in the intelligence of swing voters in Canada.</p>
<p>The problem is, however, that they&#8217;re too bloody busy with work, family, etc. and too short on time to be able to properly inform themselves.  The Big Media is one huge cluster-bomb anti-Tory attack ad and they fall for it, one bad, manipulative headline and &#8220;expert comment&#8221; after another.  And history has proven time and again that, despite folks automatically saying, when asked, that they despise &#8220;attack ads&#8221;, they still do work for them, especially if they&#8217;re purely truth-based, as are the current grouping of Tory &#8220;This is Ignatieff&#8221; ads.</p>
<p>Besides, Canadians don&#8217;t know jack about Iggy.  Therefore the ads are informative for them, and they&#8217;ll be appreciative for the convenience they offer, as they&#8217;re not getting anything from the Big Media about Iggy, except idol worship and whatnot, with the negative stuff about Iggy either covered up or downplayed, relative to the treatment Mr. Harper gets.</p>
<p>And, really, when one watches the ads, one <i>doesn&#8217;t</i> get the impression that they&#8217;re over the top or beyond the pale or whatever.  I mean, they don&#8217;t make Iggy look like Adolf H., nor do they claim that Iggy&#8217;s going to have guys with machine guns all over the place in Canada or anything so unbelieveable.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t believe the Opposition and Big, Liberal-preferring Media spin about the ads.  One needs to watch them for oneself and decide all by oneself about them.</p>
<p>The ads, objectively, will work.  Just watch the coming polls&#8230;</p>
<p>And can you furnish us with irrefutable proof that it was the Republican Party of the United States who actually invented the negative political ad?  That would make your claim that it&#8217;s a &#8220;Republican tactic&#8221; believable.   Thanx!  ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Mitchell</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/05/16/michael-ignatieffs-pronoun-problem/comment-page-3/#comment-118468</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack Mitchell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 20:40:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t believe someone with as serious a passive-aggressive disorder as yourself is allowed anywhere near children, much less paid to teach them.</description>
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		<title>By: hiedijais</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/05/16/michael-ignatieffs-pronoun-problem/comment-page-3/#comment-118467</link>
		<dc:creator>hiedijais</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 20:13:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You guys have to stop painting Harper as the bad guy that will eat our children, both Paul Martin &amp; Dion tried that and failed with their attacks against Harper and the general public is now seeing that this is not happening and are starting to not believe anything that the Liberals are saying.

Which means that they are seeing this move as a desperate grab at anything to stop from drowning.

How about coming up with some policies that the public will support and no the public does not support an increase in the GST or a Carbon Tax that Iggy will not let go of.

How about this one the public also sees that the long gun registry has been a dismal failure why don&#039;t the Liberals/Iggy save face and let it go, the firearms owners will still be registered so the police will still know if there are possibly firearms in a home or not but we don&#039;t have to continue to pour our tax dollars into this bottomless pit...

Give us a reason to vote Liberal again or at least a reason to show up to the polls...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys have to stop painting Harper as the bad guy that will eat our children, both Paul Martin &amp; Dion tried that and failed with their attacks against Harper and the general public is now seeing that this is not happening and are starting to not believe anything that the Liberals are saying.</p>
<p>Which means that they are seeing this move as a desperate grab at anything to stop from drowning.</p>
<p>How about coming up with some policies that the public will support and no the public does not support an increase in the GST or a Carbon Tax that Iggy will not let go of.</p>
<p>How about this one the public also sees that the long gun registry has been a dismal failure why don&#8217;t the Liberals/Iggy save face and let it go, the firearms owners will still be registered so the police will still know if there are possibly firearms in a home or not but we don&#8217;t have to continue to pour our tax dollars into this bottomless pit&#8230;</p>
<p>Give us a reason to vote Liberal again or at least a reason to show up to the polls&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: hiedijais</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/05/16/michael-ignatieffs-pronoun-problem/comment-page-3/#comment-118466</link>
		<dc:creator>hiedijais</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 20:00:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To me it doesn&#039;t matter if it was legal or not the overwhelming response from the Canadian voter was they did not like the idea of the coalition with the Bloc and with Iggy signing (even though his name was last) he did sign it, so no matter what he says now it is going to come back and haunt him...

When will Iggy and his controllers stop playing into the CPC&#039;s hands?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To me it doesn&#8217;t matter if it was legal or not the overwhelming response from the Canadian voter was they did not like the idea of the coalition with the Bloc and with Iggy signing (even though his name was last) he did sign it, so no matter what he says now it is going to come back and haunt him&#8230;</p>
<p>When will Iggy and his controllers stop playing into the CPC&#8217;s hands?</p>
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		<title>By: Geoff Small</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/05/16/michael-ignatieffs-pronoun-problem/comment-page-2/#comment-118465</link>
		<dc:creator>Geoff Small</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 18:51:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, it won&#039;t work. Canadians are smarter than that, especially given the benefit of having seen it before, despite it being a Republican tactic.</description>
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		<title>By: kc</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/05/16/michael-ignatieffs-pronoun-problem/comment-page-3/#comment-118464</link>
		<dc:creator>kc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 18:45:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pretty well everything you argue here is either specious or incorrect. The only legimate point you make is the distinction between entirely legal and &quot;democratic&quot; representaton by a coalition of parties and the expressed will of the peope at the polls. You make no menton of Harper&#039;s demogoguery in exploiting this disjoint beween legimate and legal representation, and you continue to simply accept wholeclothe that it was some nefarious plot on the part of he opposition parties.
With hindsight it is now pretty clear that the public was outraged at the overturning of their will and the likelihood of gettting a man for PM who they had so clearly rejected, but that was not an excuse for good king Stephen to charge in laying waste to our conventions and riding roughshod over parliamentary democracy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pretty well everything you argue here is either specious or incorrect. The only legimate point you make is the distinction between entirely legal and &#8220;democratic&#8221; representaton by a coalition of parties and the expressed will of the peope at the polls. You make no menton of Harper&#8217;s demogoguery in exploiting this disjoint beween legimate and legal representation, and you continue to simply accept wholeclothe that it was some nefarious plot on the part of he opposition parties.<br />
With hindsight it is now pretty clear that the public was outraged at the overturning of their will and the likelihood of gettting a man for PM who they had so clearly rejected, but that was not an excuse for good king Stephen to charge in laying waste to our conventions and riding roughshod over parliamentary democracy.</p>
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		<title>By: Geoff Small</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/05/16/michael-ignatieffs-pronoun-problem/comment-page-2/#comment-118463</link>
		<dc:creator>Geoff Small</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 18:45:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, we won&#039;t. Alan Gregg will no doubt inform us on Thursday that the Tories are already feeling the backlash.</description>
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		<title>By: Geoff Small</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/05/16/michael-ignatieffs-pronoun-problem/comment-page-2/#comment-118462</link>
		<dc:creator>Geoff Small</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 18:43:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I, too, have the same assessment of what Iggy meant, and I tend to agree with that sentiment: Is there REALLY any meaningful distinction between Quebecois french, and say, Acadian French, or Cajun French? All three have had the same &quot;colonial&quot; philological history, and have much in common with one another - particularly between Quebecoise and Acadian - while Parisian French enjoys a status that might be equivalent to the Queen&#039;s English in the English-speaking world. I doubt very much that there&#039;s any substance to the idea that Quebecois are &quot;turned off&quot; or feel disparaged by Iggy&#039;s Parisian accent. On the contrary, francophones across this nation are more likely than not to find this feature a pleasant addition to Iggy&#039;s articulate abilities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I, too, have the same assessment of what Iggy meant, and I tend to agree with that sentiment: Is there REALLY any meaningful distinction between Quebecois french, and say, Acadian French, or Cajun French? All three have had the same &#8220;colonial&#8221; philological history, and have much in common with one another &#8211; particularly between Quebecoise and Acadian &#8211; while Parisian French enjoys a status that might be equivalent to the Queen&#8217;s English in the English-speaking world. I doubt very much that there&#8217;s any substance to the idea that Quebecois are &#8220;turned off&#8221; or feel disparaged by Iggy&#8217;s Parisian accent. On the contrary, francophones across this nation are more likely than not to find this feature a pleasant addition to Iggy&#8217;s articulate abilities.</p>
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		<title>By: Geoff Small</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/05/16/michael-ignatieffs-pronoun-problem/comment-page-2/#comment-118461</link>
		<dc:creator>Geoff Small</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 18:15:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In FAIRNESS, the ads, like ALL political attack ads, skew the truth. Yes, Iggy spent a lot of time abroad. Yes, he&#039;s only been back for 4 years. BUT, does that mean he&#039;s not a citizen? No. Does it mean he&#039;s not Canadian? No. Does it mean that his values and policy points (once he gives them articulation) are somehow un-Canadian? No.
The ads suggest something that is absurdly improbable and, in fact, is borderline defamatory: that he came back to Canada just to rule it. It&#039;s this mean-spirited tone that only serves to discredit the ads, notwithstanding the fact that these ads are the last thing Canadians want to see and hear when they are looking for leadership and governance during a recession. The Tories got away with what they did with the Dion ads (as in airing them without an election pending, a gross abuse of public funds) because the economy was in much better shape.
Not this time. A backlash is far more damaging to the Tories than any realistic impact the ads would have on Iggy. The fact that they&#039;ve shot themselves in the foot over this shows Canadians that the Conservative Party has nothing left in the policy tank, and no ideas beyond how to lash out at their opponents - in other words, no substance outside partisanship.
This is simply BAD POLICY and makes for BAD POLITICS because Canadians are looking for solutions to our economic problems. What the Tories SHOULD be doing is criticizing Iggy for his lack of expressed policy, and going to town on what he HAS talked about with respect to the policy ideas that he has announced. Get him to wear that whole &quot;raising taxes&quot; comment - or is that dead? Maybe the Tories won&#039;t go there because they might have to admit that these ideas are actually SOUND and don&#039;t want to look like idiots - so they choose to look like selfish, out-of-touch bullies instead.
Oh, they might get Iggy to bite, but if his proven intellect is any indication, his counter-attack is going to be low-key, thrifty and about EI and the actual policy issues where the Tories are weak.
Poor strategy, Harper, and those who applaud you for it are just as foolish as you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In FAIRNESS, the ads, like ALL political attack ads, skew the truth. Yes, Iggy spent a lot of time abroad. Yes, he&#8217;s only been back for 4 years. BUT, does that mean he&#8217;s not a citizen? No. Does it mean he&#8217;s not Canadian? No. Does it mean that his values and policy points (once he gives them articulation) are somehow un-Canadian? No.<br />
The ads suggest something that is absurdly improbable and, in fact, is borderline defamatory: that he came back to Canada just to rule it. It&#8217;s this mean-spirited tone that only serves to discredit the ads, notwithstanding the fact that these ads are the last thing Canadians want to see and hear when they are looking for leadership and governance during a recession. The Tories got away with what they did with the Dion ads (as in airing them without an election pending, a gross abuse of public funds) because the economy was in much better shape.<br />
Not this time. A backlash is far more damaging to the Tories than any realistic impact the ads would have on Iggy. The fact that they&#8217;ve shot themselves in the foot over this shows Canadians that the Conservative Party has nothing left in the policy tank, and no ideas beyond how to lash out at their opponents &#8211; in other words, no substance outside partisanship.<br />
This is simply BAD POLICY and makes for BAD POLITICS because Canadians are looking for solutions to our economic problems. What the Tories SHOULD be doing is criticizing Iggy for his lack of expressed policy, and going to town on what he HAS talked about with respect to the policy ideas that he has announced. Get him to wear that whole &#8220;raising taxes&#8221; comment &#8211; or is that dead? Maybe the Tories won&#8217;t go there because they might have to admit that these ideas are actually SOUND and don&#8217;t want to look like idiots &#8211; so they choose to look like selfish, out-of-touch bullies instead.<br />
Oh, they might get Iggy to bite, but if his proven intellect is any indication, his counter-attack is going to be low-key, thrifty and about EI and the actual policy issues where the Tories are weak.<br />
Poor strategy, Harper, and those who applaud you for it are just as foolish as you.</p>
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		<title>By: Wayne</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/05/16/michael-ignatieffs-pronoun-problem/comment-page-3/#comment-118460</link>
		<dc:creator>Wayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 18:12:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent points Paul as always. Indeed Iggy has little to no time in the ranks as it were. Parachuted in as golden boy and annointed presto quickly before his staff could change the locks on Dions staff&#039;s doors. Iggy&#039;s problem is the old story &#039; Not ready for prime time&#039;. Looks relatively good and sounds okay to good depending, but it&#039;s the time in the ranks that will be the determinant. Right now he is at the end of his honeymoon and there is no mad rush to sign up for Iggy mania according to the polls therefore the result is obvious a gradual decline in the numbers and a gradual movement to irrelevance. This has been seen many times and is an old story - then again things might change and if there is more economic bad news then Stevie will take the heat but that is the way things are you sit in the seat and you take the heat ... but if things get better you get the credit .. the way things are going at present I doubt there will be an election at all this year and very doubdtfull for next spring so who knows?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent points Paul as always. Indeed Iggy has little to no time in the ranks as it were. Parachuted in as golden boy and annointed presto quickly before his staff could change the locks on Dions staff&#8217;s doors. Iggy&#8217;s problem is the old story &#8216; Not ready for prime time&#8217;. Looks relatively good and sounds okay to good depending, but it&#8217;s the time in the ranks that will be the determinant. Right now he is at the end of his honeymoon and there is no mad rush to sign up for Iggy mania according to the polls therefore the result is obvious a gradual decline in the numbers and a gradual movement to irrelevance. This has been seen many times and is an old story &#8211; then again things might change and if there is more economic bad news then Stevie will take the heat but that is the way things are you sit in the seat and you take the heat &#8230; but if things get better you get the credit .. the way things are going at present I doubt there will be an election at all this year and very doubdtfull for next spring so who knows?</p>
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		<title>By: hollinm</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/05/16/michael-ignatieffs-pronoun-problem/comment-page-3/#comment-118459</link>
		<dc:creator>hollinm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 17:52:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In effect you are arguing that minority governments are no longer a viable alternative for Canadians. Despite the governing party virtually having a majority government it requires the other three parties to form a coalition government in order to defeat the government in the House of Commons. What that means is political/governing instability because if the three opposition parties don&#039;t like what the government is doing at any point in time they simply vote non confidence in the government and Canadians are back to the polls. A coaltion government, while legal, will not be allowed by the GG when it requires the support of the Separatist party. As we saw the majority of Canadians would not accept this reality. It is a recipe for instability and certainly would force an election in Canada every year or so.
The intent of a coalition government is to have the official opposition and one other party have enough seats to defeat the government. However, requiring all opposition parties to enter into a coalition is a recipe for turning us into a banana republic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In effect you are arguing that minority governments are no longer a viable alternative for Canadians. Despite the governing party virtually having a majority government it requires the other three parties to form a coalition government in order to defeat the government in the House of Commons. What that means is political/governing instability because if the three opposition parties don&#8217;t like what the government is doing at any point in time they simply vote non confidence in the government and Canadians are back to the polls. A coaltion government, while legal, will not be allowed by the GG when it requires the support of the Separatist party. As we saw the majority of Canadians would not accept this reality. It is a recipe for instability and certainly would force an election in Canada every year or so.<br />
The intent of a coalition government is to have the official opposition and one other party have enough seats to defeat the government. However, requiring all opposition parties to enter into a coalition is a recipe for turning us into a banana republic.</p>
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		<title>By: Geoff Small</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/05/16/michael-ignatieffs-pronoun-problem/comment-page-2/#comment-118458</link>
		<dc:creator>Geoff Small</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 17:51:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You mean, like actually governing the country through a recession? I had forgotten that still needs to be done ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You mean, like actually governing the country through a recession? I had forgotten that still needs to be done ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Geoff Small</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/05/16/michael-ignatieffs-pronoun-problem/comment-page-2/#comment-118457</link>
		<dc:creator>Geoff Small</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 17:49:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so if terrorists attack &quot;fake&quot; Canada, it will be OK? Hmm... those rehashed notions from the last US election are equally absurd when applied to THIS country, it would seem. Greetings from Toronto (fake Canada) everybody!
What an absurd notion!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so if terrorists attack &#8220;fake&#8221; Canada, it will be OK? Hmm&#8230; those rehashed notions from the last US election are equally absurd when applied to THIS country, it would seem. Greetings from Toronto (fake Canada) everybody!<br />
What an absurd notion!</p>
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		<title>By: Geoff Small</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/05/16/michael-ignatieffs-pronoun-problem/comment-page-3/#comment-118456</link>
		<dc:creator>Geoff Small</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 17:44:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope you enjoy Harper&#039;s majority, then, and the dark age that will follow.</description>
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		<title>By: Geoff Small</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/05/16/michael-ignatieffs-pronoun-problem/comment-page-3/#comment-118455</link>
		<dc:creator>Geoff Small</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 17:37:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did you forget Newfoundland was a province? I thought Harper&#039;s party was properly shut out of there last election.</description>
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		<title>By: Cash</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/05/16/michael-ignatieffs-pronoun-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-118454</link>
		<dc:creator>Cash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 17:18:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Give your own head a shake.

Nobody has the right to rule over us unless they are one of us. Iggy is not one of us. He made his life and career somewhere else.

Who does he see as his friends and associates? Us? I have doubts. Whose interests would he be looking after if he has power? Our interests or those of his foreign friends and associates? Who has his ear? People living here or his friends in foreign places? If push comes to shove would he go to the barricades defending us or would he sell us out?

Can&#039;t happen? What about the world wars? Europe was full of collaborators. Legions of psychopaths from counquered countries joined the Nazi SS.

Let&#039;s say borders are arbitrary. Would you be ok then with 300 million people to the south of us having the right to move north into our country and running rampant here? Borders mean that the right to live on our turf is restricted. Why so? Because resources in our country are finite. We have the world&#039;s richest landmass and I for one would guard it jealously. It&#039;s only for use by people we call our own. People in smaller countries with poor resources would not need this explained to them because they don&#039;t take these things for granted. Neither would people that lived under foreign domination and oppression. They know that borders matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Give your own head a shake.</p>
<p>Nobody has the right to rule over us unless they are one of us. Iggy is not one of us. He made his life and career somewhere else.</p>
<p>Who does he see as his friends and associates? Us? I have doubts. Whose interests would he be looking after if he has power? Our interests or those of his foreign friends and associates? Who has his ear? People living here or his friends in foreign places? If push comes to shove would he go to the barricades defending us or would he sell us out?</p>
<p>Can&#8217;t happen? What about the world wars? Europe was full of collaborators. Legions of psychopaths from counquered countries joined the Nazi SS.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s say borders are arbitrary. Would you be ok then with 300 million people to the south of us having the right to move north into our country and running rampant here? Borders mean that the right to live on our turf is restricted. Why so? Because resources in our country are finite. We have the world&#8217;s richest landmass and I for one would guard it jealously. It&#8217;s only for use by people we call our own. People in smaller countries with poor resources would not need this explained to them because they don&#8217;t take these things for granted. Neither would people that lived under foreign domination and oppression. They know that borders matter.</p>
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		<title>By: Ted</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/05/16/michael-ignatieffs-pronoun-problem/comment-page-3/#comment-118453</link>
		<dc:creator>Ted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 17:18:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heres a thought...What if no-one votes in the next election. then no one gets elected. I know most people vote because its thier democratic right etc.. but think about it. Every time someone gets elected everything stays the same and no matter which party gets in they always pass laws to help the rich and screw the poor and nothing ever changes. The gap between the rich and poor has steadly widened over the last 40 years and most people are struggling just to make ends meet. I thought about not voting and I know other people felt the same way because a lot fewer voted during the last election. This really screwed things up for them because they didn&#039;t get the popular vote. Some of them are paid according to the popular vote. What if only say 5% voted this time would they have to change the rules? I have no love for any polititions.  I have been around long enough to know they are all bought and paid for by the financial establishment. If no-one votes then it would be a strong sign of public protest and discontent with the political system. There shouldn&#039;t even be partys. Every member should be an independent so they wouldn&#039;t have to tow the party line any more and they could vote there own conscience. Britains govenor general should not be able to PROROGUE anything here in Canada and she should mind her own business. We don&#039;t need a Privi Council either and why do we need a Senate? The system sucks as it stands. The Canadian political system can be one hundred times better that Britains. I know others are sick of this nonsence too. We know there&#039;s going to be an election soon because the attack ads have started allready and the CONS,  FIBERALS  and NEW DREAM-ON PARTY are already hurling insults so I urge every one to stay home and NOT vote</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heres a thought&#8230;What if no-one votes in the next election. then no one gets elected. I know most people vote because its thier democratic right etc.. but think about it. Every time someone gets elected everything stays the same and no matter which party gets in they always pass laws to help the rich and screw the poor and nothing ever changes. The gap between the rich and poor has steadly widened over the last 40 years and most people are struggling just to make ends meet. I thought about not voting and I know other people felt the same way because a lot fewer voted during the last election. This really screwed things up for them because they didn&#8217;t get the popular vote. Some of them are paid according to the popular vote. What if only say 5% voted this time would they have to change the rules? I have no love for any polititions.  I have been around long enough to know they are all bought and paid for by the financial establishment. If no-one votes then it would be a strong sign of public protest and discontent with the political system. There shouldn&#8217;t even be partys. Every member should be an independent so they wouldn&#8217;t have to tow the party line any more and they could vote there own conscience. Britains govenor general should not be able to PROROGUE anything here in Canada and she should mind her own business. We don&#8217;t need a Privi Council either and why do we need a Senate? The system sucks as it stands. The Canadian political system can be one hundred times better that Britains. I know others are sick of this nonsence too. We know there&#8217;s going to be an election soon because the attack ads have started allready and the CONS,  FIBERALS  and NEW DREAM-ON PARTY are already hurling insults so I urge every one to stay home and NOT vote</p>
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		<title>By: hiedijais</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/05/16/michael-ignatieffs-pronoun-problem/comment-page-3/#comment-118452</link>
		<dc:creator>hiedijais</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 17:14:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No one is disqualifying Iggy for being away for a few years here and there, they are going after him for spending the majority of his life away from Canada resulting in him being out of touch with Canadians the other issue is he only came back to become the Prime Minister.

That is a big difference for the Average Joe Canadian to swallow and one that I feel will play into the hands of the CPC resulting in another Liberal lose, maybe not as bad of a lose as the last election mind you the Liberals couldn&#039;t do any worse who ever is the new leader of the party.

Here is the link to the CPC internet ad...  http://www.ignatieff.me/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No one is disqualifying Iggy for being away for a few years here and there, they are going after him for spending the majority of his life away from Canada resulting in him being out of touch with Canadians the other issue is he only came back to become the Prime Minister.</p>
<p>That is a big difference for the Average Joe Canadian to swallow and one that I feel will play into the hands of the CPC resulting in another Liberal lose, maybe not as bad of a lose as the last election mind you the Liberals couldn&#8217;t do any worse who ever is the new leader of the party.</p>
<p>Here is the link to the CPC internet ad&#8230;  <a href="http://www.ignatieff.me/" rel="nofollow">http://www.ignatieff.me/</a></p>
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		<title>By: emilyjoythomas</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/05/16/michael-ignatieffs-pronoun-problem/comment-page-3/#comment-118451</link>
		<dc:creator>emilyjoythomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 16:59:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Can you imagine somebody getting elected president of the United States whose 30-year stint outside the United States had ended less than three years earlier?&quot;

Um, I don&#039;t know, maybe. But if the States disqualified a good leader because he took off for some great opportunities outside the country, I&#039;d probably tell them they were being a bit trivial. Hopefully, in that case, someone with some sense would say, &quot;can you imagine Canadians discrediting someone for spending time outside the country?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Can you imagine somebody getting elected president of the United States whose 30-year stint outside the United States had ended less than three years earlier?&#8221;</p>
<p>Um, I don&#8217;t know, maybe. But if the States disqualified a good leader because he took off for some great opportunities outside the country, I&#8217;d probably tell them they were being a bit trivial. Hopefully, in that case, someone with some sense would say, &#8220;can you imagine Canadians discrediting someone for spending time outside the country?&#8221;</p>
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