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	<title>Comments on: The feeble &#039;march&#039; of Euro-fascism</title>
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		<title>By: Wet Blanket Returns</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wet Blanket Returns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 22:59:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>States may sponsor terror, and authors and terror experts Ray Cline and Jonah Alexander point this out, but it is not the same thing as the old days.  Terror is done because, well, with a little nudge from liberal politicians eager to pacify, say, the Palestinians, the terrorists have figured out  you do what generally works.

Terror works. Until the day they ran into the dumb cowboy from Texas.  Then the bets were off.

And of course if terrorists--and their nests and hives--are of no threat, are we to understand we should just bring hom the Boys from, say, Afghanistan???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>States may sponsor terror, and authors and terror experts Ray Cline and Jonah Alexander point this out, but it is not the same thing as the old days.  Terror is done because, well, with a little nudge from liberal politicians eager to pacify, say, the Palestinians, the terrorists have figured out  you do what generally works.</p>
<p>Terror works. Until the day they ran into the dumb cowboy from Texas.  Then the bets were off.</p>
<p>And of course if terrorists&#8211;and their nests and hives&#8211;are of no threat, are we to understand we should just bring hom the Boys from, say, Afghanistan???</p>
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		<title>By: Wakefield Tolbert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wakefield Tolbert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 22:58:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A.C. is correct on this round.

It is the nuts who can&#039;t quite manage their own wardrobe or missles (like Kim Jong Ill) and other seemingly laughable rubes with marching orders from the Propher who&#039;re more likely to nail us in one grueseom form or another (if for no other reason than they muck things up in the attempt) than Russia or China.  The other reason is they are fearless.  Government fear. Some individuals don&#039;t.

The attack on 911, which is to some not quite on par with &quot;a threat&quot;, caused almost incalculable monetary and psychological damange to this nation.  The ripple effect is still being felt.

The age of the tanks and guns warfare of lining ones self up to be shot at whilst you shoot is gone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A.C. is correct on this round.</p>
<p>It is the nuts who can&#039;t quite manage their own wardrobe or missles (like Kim Jong Ill) and other seemingly laughable rubes with marching orders from the Propher who&#039;re more likely to nail us in one grueseom form or another (if for no other reason than they muck things up in the attempt) than Russia or China.  The other reason is they are fearless.  Government fear. Some individuals don&#039;t.</p>
<p>The attack on 911, which is to some not quite on par with &quot;a threat&quot;, caused almost incalculable monetary and psychological damange to this nation.  The ripple effect is still being felt.</p>
<p>The age of the tanks and guns warfare of lining ones self up to be shot at whilst you shoot is gone.</p>
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		<title>By: Wet Blanket Returns</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wet Blanket Returns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 22:51:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Existential threats need to be capable of destroying the US. That is why it is relevant to point out that terrorists don&#039;t have the means to do so conventionally.
&lt;/i&gt;

Who told you that?

Is that we hire the coast guard and they place THEIR lives on the line with more than a little time, money and effort to interdict all manner of shenanigans both small and large?

As to those handy stats--it is the SILENCE, that is the real complicity here. A strange pall from not just the left, but more importantly large swathes of Muslims who see their own &quot;countrymen&quot; blown to hell and into dime sized chunks and say little.  So the allegedly small (how small???) percentage of the Islamic community that is highly charged and radicalized that now contained numerous converts raised on Brit fish-n-chips but are hot for decapitation:  Just how many constitute an &quot;existential&quot; threat?

Several hundred?  Thousands?  Armed with nukes rather than merely adept at making quickie gory bofo snuff films?

Where is that magic line of demarcation where annoyance is threat to the commonweal?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Existential threats need to be capable of destroying the US. That is why it is relevant to point out that terrorists don&#039;t have the means to do so conventionally.<br />
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<p>Who told you that?</p>
<p>Is that we hire the coast guard and they place THEIR lives on the line with more than a little time, money and effort to interdict all manner of shenanigans both small and large?</p>
<p>As to those handy stats&#8211;it is the SILENCE, that is the real complicity here. A strange pall from not just the left, but more importantly large swathes of Muslims who see their own &quot;countrymen&quot; blown to hell and into dime sized chunks and say little.  So the allegedly small (how small???) percentage of the Islamic community that is highly charged and radicalized that now contained numerous converts raised on Brit fish-n-chips but are hot for decapitation:  Just how many constitute an &quot;existential&quot; threat?</p>
<p>Several hundred?  Thousands?  Armed with nukes rather than merely adept at making quickie gory bofo snuff films?</p>
<p>Where is that magic line of demarcation where annoyance is threat to the commonweal?</p>
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		<title>By: Wet Blanket</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wet Blanket</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 22:44:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Terrorism is incapable of achieving mass death because it has no aircraft carriers, nuclear weapons, etc&lt;/i&gt;

That is being worked on while we sleep, sir.

That is but a matter of timing--not intentions.

I PROMISE you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Terrorism is incapable of achieving mass death because it has no aircraft carriers, nuclear weapons, etc</i></p>
<p>That is being worked on while we sleep, sir.</p>
<p>That is but a matter of timing&#8211;not intentions.</p>
<p>I PROMISE you.</p>
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		<title>By: Wakefield Tolbert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wakefield Tolbert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 22:41:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would say that when it comes to the dark junction, the intersection, of many modern terror troubles when it comes to actual threats to life and limb to Westerners and for those not choosing to vacation among the FARC in Colombia and get in THEIR faces, the name &quot;Muhammed&quot; seems to be coming up more and more.

Little comfort found in that little puppet show of yours. The paper tigers still have teeth, even if they might not drink from the same well twice or favor jetliners to dirty nukes in the next session of horror.

The endless harangue about not capturing the (probably 6 feet under) figurehead of Bin Laden (though that baton has long passed on) from the Left regarding GW Bush tells me more than a few liberals too are nervous about visits to Manhattan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would say that when it comes to the dark junction, the intersection, of many modern terror troubles when it comes to actual threats to life and limb to Westerners and for those not choosing to vacation among the FARC in Colombia and get in THEIR faces, the name &quot;Muhammed&quot; seems to be coming up more and more.</p>
<p>Little comfort found in that little puppet show of yours. The paper tigers still have teeth, even if they might not drink from the same well twice or favor jetliners to dirty nukes in the next session of horror.</p>
<p>The endless harangue about not capturing the (probably 6 feet under) figurehead of Bin Laden (though that baton has long passed on) from the Left regarding GW Bush tells me more than a few liberals too are nervous about visits to Manhattan.</p>
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		<title>By: Wakefield</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wakefield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 22:36:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unless you keep your nose out of trouble or don&#039;t mention certain issues.

That works as well, though I&#039;d agree that if one must speak these days, having a lawyer is every bit as requisite on speech issues as needing one in case you&#039;re found on the street with 25 pounds of heroin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unless you keep your nose out of trouble or don&#039;t mention certain issues.</p>
<p>That works as well, though I&#039;d agree that if one must speak these days, having a lawyer is every bit as requisite on speech issues as needing one in case you&#039;re found on the street with 25 pounds of heroin.</p>
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		<title>By: Wakefield Tolbert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wakefield Tolbert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 22:33:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know you&#039;re an atheist, but can I have an &quot;AMEN&quot;, brother con?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know you&#039;re an atheist, but can I have an &quot;AMEN&quot;, brother con?</p>
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		<title>By: Wakefield Tolbert</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/06/19/the-feeble-%e2%80%98march%e2%80%99-of-euro-fascism/comment-page-2/#comment-133648</link>
		<dc:creator>Wakefield Tolbert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 22:31:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DEAR DIARY:

&lt;i&gt;NOTE TO SELF ADDENDUM:

 Geert Wilder&#039;s party  might be out of favor, and he joins big mouths like Michael Savage in being on par with head smashers and gut splats from Hamas as far as concerns Jacquie Smith and some other similar tavern mutts who now control the plupart of Euro culture. Nevertheless, it seems these kinds of guys are not going to just disappear, politically, into the morning mist.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

(click)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DEAR DIARY:</p>
<p><i>NOTE TO SELF ADDENDUM:</p>
<p> Geert Wilder&#039;s party  might be out of favor, and he joins big mouths like Michael Savage in being on par with head smashers and gut splats from Hamas as far as concerns Jacquie Smith and some other similar tavern mutts who now control the plupart of Euro culture. Nevertheless, it seems these kinds of guys are not going to just disappear, politically, into the morning mist.&quot;</i></p>
<p>(click)</p>
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		<title>By: Wakefield Tolbert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wakefield Tolbert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 22:28:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll have to make a note to self on this one:

&lt;i&gt;&quot;DEAR DIARY:

Neverminding that Phillip Longman and other demographers see many of the same demographic shifts, the paucity of lefist reproduction patterns, and the slow but assured emptying out of native European culture, why, golly: It seems a fact-checker has decided that the fascists in Europe are of no real threat after all. Remember this when we&#039;re told by everyone from Media Matters to current commenters hither and yonder that fascism and backlash is a growing threat due to the hateful tomes of guys like Sarkozy. Who, BTW--just basically told most of the more doctrinaire practitioners of Islam to knick-off&quot;

(click)&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;ll have to make a note to self on this one:</p>
<p><i>&quot;DEAR DIARY:</p>
<p>Neverminding that Phillip Longman and other demographers see many of the same demographic shifts, the paucity of lefist reproduction patterns, and the slow but assured emptying out of native European culture, why, golly: It seems a fact-checker has decided that the fascists in Europe are of no real threat after all. Remember this when we&#039;re told by everyone from Media Matters to current commenters hither and yonder that fascism and backlash is a growing threat due to the hateful tomes of guys like Sarkozy. Who, BTW&#8211;just basically told most of the more doctrinaire practitioners of Islam to knick-off&quot;</p>
<p>(click)</i></p>
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		<title>By: Stray Steyn &#171; Red Tory v.3.0</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/06/19/the-feeble-%e2%80%98march%e2%80%99-of-euro-fascism/comment-page-2/#comment-133646</link>
		<dc:creator>Stray Steyn &#171; Red Tory v.3.0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 14:21:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] was demonstrated so ably yesterday by Paul Wells on the Macleans blog, the fact-challenged Steyn is thoroughly [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Crypto</title>
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		<dc:creator>Crypto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 16:48:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed, healthy debate is, well, healthy.  However, I can&#039;t debate someone who has no grip on reality.  Steyn is a ham-handed and shrill alarmist (not in itself a bad thing) and &quot;hyperbole&quot; doesn&#039;t even begin to describe his writing.  I also object to the idea that an &quot;opinion&quot; is always valid even when it has no basis on fact.  If Steyn is completely ignorant on a given topic, I don&#039;t think I should have to say that his &quot;opinion&quot; is worthless.

No, I don&#039;t have to agree with them.  Why would I agree with a deranged individual who seeks to improve his own readership through fear-mongering?  If the &quot;awareness&quot; that Steyn seeks and you champion is achieved through the pedaling of lies, I think I have a right to dismiss it without debate, to state in no uncertain terms that it has zero intellectual value (other than as an exercise in Lefty-baiting), and to repudiate the author&#039;s credentials.

I agree, one does not have to attribute falsity to all of Steyn&#039;s writings because he is &quot;wrong once or twice&quot; (rather generous on your part).  Nor do we have to attribute him with infallibility because he happens to get something right in  the paranoid froth of his usual writings.  In fact, casting doubt on his work due to repetitive wrongness seems to me much more justified than giving him the proverbial Benefit Of The Doubt when reading every credulous rant.

What am I afraid of?  That the vocations of Liar and Journalist become indistinguishable in my lifetime.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed, healthy debate is, well, healthy.  However, I can&#039;t debate someone who has no grip on reality.  Steyn is a ham-handed and shrill alarmist (not in itself a bad thing) and &quot;hyperbole&quot; doesn&#039;t even begin to describe his writing.  I also object to the idea that an &quot;opinion&quot; is always valid even when it has no basis on fact.  If Steyn is completely ignorant on a given topic, I don&#039;t think I should have to say that his &quot;opinion&quot; is worthless.</p>
<p>No, I don&#039;t have to agree with them.  Why would I agree with a deranged individual who seeks to improve his own readership through fear-mongering?  If the &quot;awareness&quot; that Steyn seeks and you champion is achieved through the pedaling of lies, I think I have a right to dismiss it without debate, to state in no uncertain terms that it has zero intellectual value (other than as an exercise in Lefty-baiting), and to repudiate the author&#039;s credentials.</p>
<p>I agree, one does not have to attribute falsity to all of Steyn&#039;s writings because he is &quot;wrong once or twice&quot; (rather generous on your part).  Nor do we have to attribute him with infallibility because he happens to get something right in  the paranoid froth of his usual writings.  In fact, casting doubt on his work due to repetitive wrongness seems to me much more justified than giving him the proverbial Benefit Of The Doubt when reading every credulous rant.</p>
<p>What am I afraid of?  That the vocations of Liar and Journalist become indistinguishable in my lifetime.</p>
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		<title>By: Axel Edgren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Axel Edgren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 16:18:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Basically the main argument from all the far-right fringes who dabble in &quot;fatherly&quot; values and guidelines for the government - the left is allied with Saudi Arabia and we represent all the poor salt-of-the-earth hard-working plebs who are dumb enough to believe that.

I personally agree with Johann Hari who thinks multiculturalism must be off the table if there&#039;s a chance we will ignore the plight of oppressed women from paternalistic cultures in order to not step on any toes. But to even think that the far-right parties represent an unselfish, thought-out, honest, constructive and critical outlook on the issues associated with immigration have suffered complete abandonment of the faculties one would expect in a voter who&#039;s had basic education. Now they&#039;ll whine about &quot;elitist intellectual dismissal of any non-mainstream parties and grassroots movements&quot;, but I personally voted for the Pirate Party.

Yeah, many of them are poor, prejudiced, not very educated and have very self-centered views on feminists, left-wing fellow citizens and anyone capable of seeing through their obsolete and shoddy thinking. I&#039;m not going to send them to a camp but I am not going to let them feel proud of their flaws. Neo-nazis and self-appointed vanguards of &quot;classical&quot; Europe and all our poor defenseless womenfolk are the ones attacking left-wing politicians in Sweden and elsewhere, not the other way around. I&#039;d personally rather see all the seats in the EU parliament currently being held by far-right bloviators to contain a random assortment of Romes or immigrants. Their &quot;working-class&quot; concerns and agendas are an embarrassment to all Europeans</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Basically the main argument from all the far-right fringes who dabble in &quot;fatherly&quot; values and guidelines for the government &#8211; the left is allied with Saudi Arabia and we represent all the poor salt-of-the-earth hard-working plebs who are dumb enough to believe that.</p>
<p>I personally agree with Johann Hari who thinks multiculturalism must be off the table if there&#039;s a chance we will ignore the plight of oppressed women from paternalistic cultures in order to not step on any toes. But to even think that the far-right parties represent an unselfish, thought-out, honest, constructive and critical outlook on the issues associated with immigration have suffered complete abandonment of the faculties one would expect in a voter who&#039;s had basic education. Now they&#039;ll whine about &quot;elitist intellectual dismissal of any non-mainstream parties and grassroots movements&quot;, but I personally voted for the Pirate Party.</p>
<p>Yeah, many of them are poor, prejudiced, not very educated and have very self-centered views on feminists, left-wing fellow citizens and anyone capable of seeing through their obsolete and shoddy thinking. I&#039;m not going to send them to a camp but I am not going to let them feel proud of their flaws. Neo-nazis and self-appointed vanguards of &quot;classical&quot; Europe and all our poor defenseless womenfolk are the ones attacking left-wing politicians in Sweden and elsewhere, not the other way around. I&#039;d personally rather see all the seats in the EU parliament currently being held by far-right bloviators to contain a random assortment of Romes or immigrants. Their &quot;working-class&quot; concerns and agendas are an embarrassment to all Europeans</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 15:56:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d like this amoral buffoon to say this to my face without laughing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;d like this amoral buffoon to say this to my face without laughing.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon H</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 15:14:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are limits to this. You can advertise &quot;Girls and Corpses&quot; magazine (yes, it exists: bikini-clad models posing with special-fx cadavers) as much as you want, but the readership is going to be naturally limited to people with an interest in the subject matter.

Simply put, most people aren&#039;t interested in far-left political magazines. Most people aren&#039;t interested in far-right political magazines, either. Most people aren&#039;t interested in wallowing in ideology. No amount of advertising will fix that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are limits to this. You can advertise &quot;Girls and Corpses&quot; magazine (yes, it exists: bikini-clad models posing with special-fx cadavers) as much as you want, but the readership is going to be naturally limited to people with an interest in the subject matter.</p>
<p>Simply put, most people aren&#039;t interested in far-left political magazines. Most people aren&#039;t interested in far-right political magazines, either. Most people aren&#039;t interested in wallowing in ideology. No amount of advertising will fix that.</p>
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		<title>By: Fact-Checking Mark Steyn &#183; Iranian Election Coverage</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fact-Checking Mark Steyn &#183; Iranian Election Coverage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 14:17:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] cold and lonely work but someone&#039;s got to do it. (Link [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Mulletaur</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/06/19/the-feeble-%e2%80%98march%e2%80%99-of-euro-fascism/comment-page-2/#comment-133640</link>
		<dc:creator>Mulletaur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 01:59:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is something missing from this discussion which may indeed fuel some of the racist feeling in Europe - the uncontrolled nature of immigration to Europe. Canada selects its immigrants for the most part. They are generally better educated, more successful economically and usually both, as they have to qualify as &#039;independents&#039;. Uncontrolled immigration in Europe with people literally just walking across borders means that Europe gets anybody who shows up in whatever quantity they show up. Totally different kettle of fish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is something missing from this discussion which may indeed fuel some of the racist feeling in Europe &#8211; the uncontrolled nature of immigration to Europe. Canada selects its immigrants for the most part. They are generally better educated, more successful economically and usually both, as they have to qualify as &#039;independents&#039;. Uncontrolled immigration in Europe with people literally just walking across borders means that Europe gets anybody who shows up in whatever quantity they show up. Totally different kettle of fish.</p>
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		<title>By: Mulletaur</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/06/19/the-feeble-%e2%80%98march%e2%80%99-of-euro-fascism/comment-page-1/#comment-133639</link>
		<dc:creator>Mulletaur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 01:55:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Huh ?</description>
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		<title>By: Mulletaur</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/06/19/the-feeble-%e2%80%98march%e2%80%99-of-euro-fascism/comment-page-1/#comment-133638</link>
		<dc:creator>Mulletaur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 01:54:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;so canadians living abroad who have acquired a second citizenship should be stripped of their canadian citizenship (which, btw, isn&#039;t possible due to constitutional constraints)?&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

No, should not. Nobody should be stripped of their second citizenship or forced to give it up. Perhaps a mutual misunderstanding here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&quot;so canadians living abroad who have acquired a second citizenship should be stripped of their canadian citizenship (which, btw, isn&#039;t possible due to constitutional constraints)?&quot;</i></p>
<p>No, should not. Nobody should be stripped of their second citizenship or forced to give it up. Perhaps a mutual misunderstanding here.</p>
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		<title>By: Gaunilon</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/06/19/the-feeble-%e2%80%98march%e2%80%99-of-euro-fascism/comment-page-2/#comment-133637</link>
		<dc:creator>Gaunilon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 17:56:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wells draws a lot of inferences from Steyn&#039;s piece that I didn&#039;t.  Steyn made the following argument:
(1) Fascism is gaining popularity in Europe
(2) This is not because people actually like fascism, but because it is their only recourse to...
(3) politically correct trampling on freedom of speech.  They rebel and go too far.

Now, which of these is false?  Wells seems to be denying (3) entirely (hello??) and provides some argument against (1).  As for (2) he seems to suggest that Steyn actually believes Europeans are fascist sympathizers.

So Wells, If Steyn mischaracterized Kalniete, then call him out on that (you did).  If fascism is actually declining or just going through statistical noise, then fine, make that argument (you didn&#039;t, but hinted at it with the Austrian statistics).  Beyond that, you generated a lot of heat and very little light with this article.  Steyn&#039;s was a hell of a lot better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wells draws a lot of inferences from Steyn&#039;s piece that I didn&#039;t.  Steyn made the following argument:<br />
(1) Fascism is gaining popularity in Europe<br />
(2) This is not because people actually like fascism, but because it is their only recourse to&#8230;<br />
(3) politically correct trampling on freedom of speech.  They rebel and go too far.</p>
<p>Now, which of these is false?  Wells seems to be denying (3) entirely (hello??) and provides some argument against (1).  As for (2) he seems to suggest that Steyn actually believes Europeans are fascist sympathizers.</p>
<p>So Wells, If Steyn mischaracterized Kalniete, then call him out on that (you did).  If fascism is actually declining or just going through statistical noise, then fine, make that argument (you didn&#039;t, but hinted at it with the Austrian statistics).  Beyond that, you generated a lot of heat and very little light with this article.  Steyn&#039;s was a hell of a lot better.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Wells</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/06/19/the-feeble-%e2%80%98march%e2%80%99-of-euro-fascism/comment-page-2/#comment-133636</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Wells</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 14:50:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This comment is completely accurate, if by &quot;people like Wells&quot; you mean &quot;some bipeds.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This comment is completely accurate, if by &#8220;people like Wells&#8221; you mean &#8220;some bipeds.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Nich</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/06/19/the-feeble-%e2%80%98march%e2%80%99-of-euro-fascism/comment-page-1/#comment-133635</link>
		<dc:creator>Nich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 13:29:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even when our system doesn&#039;t work correctly, Steyn and Macleans have had no censure placed against them at anytime by anybody.

Abuse of a state mechanism doesn&#039;t indicate systemic censorship of unpopular opinion. Perhaps if you were more in tune with what&#039;s around you, you would realize you were commenting on the most recent Steyn article appearing in a recent issue of Maclean&#039;s, despite the &#039;censors&#039; that are denying them freedom of expression and freedom of the press.

Posting what you did on this article defeated what you were expressing in your post. I hope the irony isn&#039;t lost on you, bro(mide).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even when our system doesn&#039;t work correctly, Steyn and Macleans have had no censure placed against them at anytime by anybody.</p>
<p>Abuse of a state mechanism doesn&#039;t indicate systemic censorship of unpopular opinion. Perhaps if you were more in tune with what&#039;s around you, you would realize you were commenting on the most recent Steyn article appearing in a recent issue of Maclean&#039;s, despite the &#039;censors&#039; that are denying them freedom of expression and freedom of the press.</p>
<p>Posting what you did on this article defeated what you were expressing in your post. I hope the irony isn&#039;t lost on you, bro(mide).</p>
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		<title>By: The Weekly Wilders Round-Up &#171; Defend Geert Wilders</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/06/19/the-feeble-%e2%80%98march%e2%80%99-of-euro-fascism/comment-page-2/#comment-133634</link>
		<dc:creator>The Weekly Wilders Round-Up &#171; Defend Geert Wilders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 06:57:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Macleans &#8211; The feeble ‘march’ of Euro-fascism [...]</description>
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		<title>By: kcm</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/06/19/the-feeble-%e2%80%98march%e2%80%99-of-euro-fascism/comment-page-2/#comment-133633</link>
		<dc:creator>kcm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 05:14:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok i&#039;ll bite. When has he ever been subsequently been proven right? And by what credible authority/ source?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok i&#039;ll bite. When has he ever been subsequently been proven right? And by what credible authority/ source?</p>
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		<title>By: Rob H</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/06/19/the-feeble-%e2%80%98march%e2%80%99-of-euro-fascism/comment-page-2/#comment-133632</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 02:40:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steyn is accurate on Europe and the other things he writes about. People like Wells can&#039;t stand that. When Steyn reports that Iranian Kohmeini&#039;s book included advice on sex with animals or that an Imam from Norway said Islam would triumph because Muslims breed like mosquitos, people like Wells accuse him of lying or exaggerating. When he is subsequently proven to be correct there is silence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steyn is accurate on Europe and the other things he writes about. People like Wells can&#039;t stand that. When Steyn reports that Iranian Kohmeini&#039;s book included advice on sex with animals or that an Imam from Norway said Islam would triumph because Muslims breed like mosquitos, people like Wells accuse him of lying or exaggerating. When he is subsequently proven to be correct there is silence.</p>
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		<title>By: GeoffM</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/06/19/the-feeble-%e2%80%98march%e2%80%99-of-euro-fascism/comment-page-2/#comment-133631</link>
		<dc:creator>GeoffM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 01:35:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My theory was more interesting. My second, intermediately interesting theory was that you got shouted down in the editorial meeting and channeled your rage into your column. But I guess you really are (self?) quarantined from editorial. Are you picking up that I don&#039;t know a goddamn thing about how journalism &lt;i&gt;really&lt;/i&gt; works?

Ken Whyte may be emperically challenged but I give him full marks for chaos. I was unsettled when MacLean&#039;s started indulging a tabloidish bent (I recall wrinkling my nose at a West Nile Virus cover quite a few years ago) but I keep coming back. I guess I&#039;m okay with sensationalist headlines and cranked ledes, as long as you get around to some real journalism somewhere around the second paragraph.

But I&#039;m still calling you &quot;Babyface&quot; from now on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My theory was more interesting. My second, intermediately interesting theory was that you got shouted down in the editorial meeting and channeled your rage into your column. But I guess you really are (self?) quarantined from editorial. Are you picking up that I don&#039;t know a goddamn thing about how journalism <i>really</i> works?</p>
<p>Ken Whyte may be emperically challenged but I give him full marks for chaos. I was unsettled when MacLean&#039;s started indulging a tabloidish bent (I recall wrinkling my nose at a West Nile Virus cover quite a few years ago) but I keep coming back. I guess I&#039;m okay with sensationalist headlines and cranked ledes, as long as you get around to some real journalism somewhere around the second paragraph.</p>
<p>But I&#039;m still calling you &quot;Babyface&quot; from now on.</p>
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		<title>By: non-inscrit</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/06/19/the-feeble-%e2%80%98march%e2%80%99-of-euro-fascism/comment-page-2/#comment-133630</link>
		<dc:creator>non-inscrit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 23:49:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article Mr. Wells.</description>
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		<title>By: Amanda</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/06/19/the-feeble-%e2%80%98march%e2%80%99-of-euro-fascism/comment-page-1/#comment-133629</link>
		<dc:creator>Amanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 19:39:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://tearsheet.ca/dev/?p=4216#comment-133629</guid>
		<description>Read Sam Harris&#039;s assessment of Chomsky&#039;s &quot;moral blindness&quot; in  &quot;The End of Faith&quot;:  page 138, &quot;Leftist Unreason and the Strange Case of Noam Chomsky&quot;.  Very astute analysis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Read Sam Harris&#039;s assessment of Chomsky&#039;s &quot;moral blindness&quot; in  &quot;The End of Faith&quot;:  page 138, &quot;Leftist Unreason and the Strange Case of Noam Chomsky&quot;.  Very astute analysis.</p>
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		<title>By: Thwim</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/06/19/the-feeble-%e2%80%98march%e2%80%99-of-euro-fascism/comment-page-1/#comment-133628</link>
		<dc:creator>Thwim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 07:33:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, advertising DOES drive circulation. Having the money to advertise the magazine drives the circulation of that magazine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, advertising DOES drive circulation. Having the money to advertise the magazine drives the circulation of that magazine.</p>
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		<title>By: Inkless</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/06/19/the-feeble-%e2%80%98march%e2%80%99-of-euro-fascism/comment-page-2/#comment-133627</link>
		<dc:creator>Inkless</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 05:08:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GeoffM has a really excellent theory. I&#039;m tempted to leave it alone for a while to see whether anyone buys it. But no, sadly, I didn&#039;t see Mark&#039;s column, or know he was writing on this topic, until that issue of Maclean&#039;s landed on the newsstands. My bureau colleagues, who were nearly deafened by the shouts of &quot;What!&quot; and &quot;But -- but --&quot; coming out of my office, can vouch for me.

I&#039;ve been writing for Ken Whyte for 15 years at three publications, and I am here to tell you he doesn&#039;t believe in planning when chaos is so much more fun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GeoffM has a really excellent theory. I&#039;m tempted to leave it alone for a while to see whether anyone buys it. But no, sadly, I didn&#039;t see Mark&#039;s column, or know he was writing on this topic, until that issue of Maclean&#039;s landed on the newsstands. My bureau colleagues, who were nearly deafened by the shouts of &quot;What!&quot; and &quot;But &#8212; but &#8211;&quot; coming out of my office, can vouch for me.</p>
<p>I&#039;ve been writing for Ken Whyte for 15 years at three publications, and I am here to tell you he doesn&#039;t believe in planning when chaos is so much more fun.</p>
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		<title>By: Top Posts &#171; WordPress.com</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/06/19/the-feeble-%e2%80%98march%e2%80%99-of-euro-fascism/comment-page-2/#comment-133626</link>
		<dc:creator>Top Posts &#171; WordPress.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 01:14:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]  The feeble &#8216;march&#8217; of Euro-fascism Boo! Did I scare you? Good! We like scaring you here at Maclean’s. That’s why we like these rip-roaring cover [...] [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...]  The feeble &#8216;march&#8217; of Euro-fascism Boo! Did I scare you? Good! We like scaring you here at Maclean’s. That’s why we like these rip-roaring cover [...] [...]</p>
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		<title>By: GeoffM</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/06/19/the-feeble-%e2%80%98march%e2%80%99-of-euro-fascism/comment-page-2/#comment-133625</link>
		<dc:creator>GeoffM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 22:53:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me get this straight: Magazine publishes sloppy article. Editors fail to edit. Star columnist, who conveniently doesn&#039;t appear as an &quot;editor&quot; on the masthead, devotes a column to calling out sloppy cover story that his editors failed to edit.

Does this look a little manufactured to anyone? Kinda like a pro wrestling match where the heel (Steyn) and the babyface (Wells) chat in the locker room before hand to plot the match?

So, out with it Paul. What was your role in this? Did you see the story before it ran? Did you voice any objections?

As print journalism enters its circus phase, it would be nice for us readers to know who&#039;s in on the act and whether I&#039;m the only dupe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me get this straight: Magazine publishes sloppy article. Editors fail to edit. Star columnist, who conveniently doesn&#039;t appear as an &quot;editor&quot; on the masthead, devotes a column to calling out sloppy cover story that his editors failed to edit.</p>
<p>Does this look a little manufactured to anyone? Kinda like a pro wrestling match where the heel (Steyn) and the babyface (Wells) chat in the locker room before hand to plot the match?</p>
<p>So, out with it Paul. What was your role in this? Did you see the story before it ran? Did you voice any objections?</p>
<p>As print journalism enters its circus phase, it would be nice for us readers to know who&#039;s in on the act and whether I&#039;m the only dupe.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe from to</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/06/19/the-feeble-%e2%80%98march%e2%80%99-of-euro-fascism/comment-page-2/#comment-133624</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe from to</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 21:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, MacLean&#039;s for setting up debate between two good writers. It is very hard for anyone to stand up and say an opinion in Toronto without getting blasted. Here you are demonstrating how debating should be done. Well done and I can not wait for my next issue of your magazine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, MacLean&#8217;s for setting up debate between two good writers. It is very hard for anyone to stand up and say an opinion in Toronto without getting blasted. Here you are demonstrating how debating should be done. Well done and I can not wait for my next issue of your magazine.</p>
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		<title>By: Canuckistanian</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/06/19/the-feeble-%e2%80%98march%e2%80%99-of-euro-fascism/comment-page-1/#comment-133623</link>
		<dc:creator>Canuckistanian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 20:22:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Um, you might want to take into consideration people who were born here and have acquired a second citizenship by naturalization before you rush to judgment on this.&quot;

so canadians living abroad who have acquired a second citizenship should be stripped of their canadian citizenship (which, btw, isn&#039;t possible due to constitutional constraints)?  ya, that isn&#039;t creepy at all.  only born and bred nativists that stay in canada are The True Canadians.  very creepy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Um, you might want to take into consideration people who were born here and have acquired a second citizenship by naturalization before you rush to judgment on this.&quot;</p>
<p>so canadians living abroad who have acquired a second citizenship should be stripped of their canadian citizenship (which, btw, isn&#039;t possible due to constitutional constraints)?  ya, that isn&#039;t creepy at all.  only born and bred nativists that stay in canada are The True Canadians.  very creepy.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Mitchell</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/06/19/the-feeble-%e2%80%98march%e2%80%99-of-euro-fascism/comment-page-1/#comment-133622</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack Mitchell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 19:16:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your problem, H2H, is that you&#039;re a rational person.  Ergo you are part of the great cosmopolitan leftist conspiracy that somehow doesn&#039;t grasp the importance of White Power.  Sorry to have to break the news.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your problem, H2H, is that you&#039;re a rational person.  Ergo you are part of the great cosmopolitan leftist conspiracy that somehow doesn&#039;t grasp the importance of White Power.  Sorry to have to break the news.</p>
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		<title>By: hosertohoosier</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/06/19/the-feeble-%e2%80%98march%e2%80%99-of-euro-fascism/comment-page-1/#comment-133621</link>
		<dc:creator>hosertohoosier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 18:47:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only if you assume that everybody who agrees with Wells/Steyn must be a liberal/conservative. I am a conservative and I agree wholeheartedly with Wells.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only if you assume that everybody who agrees with Wells/Steyn must be a liberal/conservative. I am a conservative and I agree wholeheartedly with Wells.</p>
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		<title>By: Amanda</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/06/19/the-feeble-%e2%80%98march%e2%80%99-of-euro-fascism/comment-page-2/#comment-133620</link>
		<dc:creator>Amanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 18:21:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you a &quot;Wilhelmina&quot; by any chance? In my experience, it&#039;s only girls (usually of high-school level) who are capable of such bitchiness.

Is it a F-A-C-T that it was on his &quot;parent&#039;s cash&quot;, or are you playing fast and loose with facts and utterly distorting reality so as to make a point??

If the latter, I would consider your statement to be morally (as well as factually) wrong.

Talk about tired, ad-hominem attacks.......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you a &quot;Wilhelmina&quot; by any chance? In my experience, it&#039;s only girls (usually of high-school level) who are capable of such bitchiness.</p>
<p>Is it a F-A-C-T that it was on his &quot;parent&#039;s cash&quot;, or are you playing fast and loose with facts and utterly distorting reality so as to make a point??</p>
<p>If the latter, I would consider your statement to be morally (as well as factually) wrong.</p>
<p>Talk about tired, ad-hominem attacks&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: John.K</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/06/19/the-feeble-%e2%80%98march%e2%80%99-of-euro-fascism/comment-page-1/#comment-133619</link>
		<dc:creator>John.K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 18:21:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Jack,

I have since read Filthy Lucre and am part way thru The Efficient Society.  If I had it to do over, I&#039;d have started with The Efficient Society, then Filthy Lucre and then Rebel Sell.  Oddly, the order in which they were written doesn&#039;t seem to match the development of the theses....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Jack,</p>
<p>I have since read Filthy Lucre and am part way thru The Efficient Society.  If I had it to do over, I&#039;d have started with The Efficient Society, then Filthy Lucre and then Rebel Sell.  Oddly, the order in which they were written doesn&#039;t seem to match the development of the theses&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Will</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/06/19/the-feeble-%e2%80%98march%e2%80%99-of-euro-fascism/comment-page-2/#comment-133618</link>
		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 16:59:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank god for Mr. Wells. I am sick and tired of Mark Steyn&#039;s tabloid grade diatribes going unchecked in the media. Ever since those Osgoode Hall law students brought him before the HRC, nobody of importance has bothered with such quaint notions as fact checking or even using logic for fear of being called a fascist. It&#039;s not so much that I disagree with what Mark Steyn says (more on that later), I just disagree with playing fast and loose with facts and utterly distorting reality so as to make a point. As much as Mark Steyn was screwed by the HRCs, the pendulum has swung the other way. Now, if anybody asks for something like fact checking or statistics they are ipso facto Islamist facsist socialistic pinko vegans. As if wondering what exactly would lead one to accept Steyn&#039;s version of &#039;reality&#039; over the CIA, NIC, Mi5, and every major statistical bureau qualifies you as the modern day Stasi. Its not that what Steyn says is morally wrong (I like dead baby jokes, so I&#039;m not about to play with morality), it is factually wrong. So factually wrong that any columnist who&#039;s life achievements are higher than dropping out of some cushy private high school to become a DJ on their parents cash then reviewing films for a tabloid would be able to expose this blatant factual relativism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank god for Mr. Wells. I am sick and tired of Mark Steyn&#039;s tabloid grade diatribes going unchecked in the media. Ever since those Osgoode Hall law students brought him before the HRC, nobody of importance has bothered with such quaint notions as fact checking or even using logic for fear of being called a fascist. It&#039;s not so much that I disagree with what Mark Steyn says (more on that later), I just disagree with playing fast and loose with facts and utterly distorting reality so as to make a point. As much as Mark Steyn was screwed by the HRCs, the pendulum has swung the other way. Now, if anybody asks for something like fact checking or statistics they are ipso facto Islamist facsist socialistic pinko vegans. As if wondering what exactly would lead one to accept Steyn&#039;s version of &#039;reality&#039; over the CIA, NIC, Mi5, and every major statistical bureau qualifies you as the modern day Stasi. Its not that what Steyn says is morally wrong (I like dead baby jokes, so I&#039;m not about to play with morality), it is factually wrong. So factually wrong that any columnist who&#039;s life achievements are higher than dropping out of some cushy private high school to become a DJ on their parents cash then reviewing films for a tabloid would be able to expose this blatant factual relativism.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Mitchell</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/06/19/the-feeble-%e2%80%98march%e2%80%99-of-euro-fascism/comment-page-2/#comment-133617</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack Mitchell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 16:49:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, FWIW, the European birthrate has risen sharply in the last few years.  Steyn&#039;s arguments, always specious, have actually been refuted by the facts (again).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, FWIW, the European birthrate has risen sharply in the last few years.  Steyn&#039;s arguments, always specious, have actually been refuted by the facts (again).</p>
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		<title>By: Micheal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Micheal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 14:43:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is great about Steyn is he doesn&#039;t mind the criticism,he&#039;s linked this article on his home page.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is great about Steyn is he doesn&#039;t mind the criticism,he&#039;s linked this article on his home page.</p>
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		<title>By: AtheistCon</title>
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		<dc:creator>AtheistCon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 11:11:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. Attempting to refute the point by generalizing the point is just dishonest. I have never said that &quot;terrorism and Islam are one&quot;. I merely refuted your assertion that terrorism is not endemic to Islam, or that Islamic terror is not a unique and dramatic threat.
2. The middle east looks rich because many parts of it are rich. And the fact that 16 hijackers from Saudi Arabia committed the worst act of terrorism against the United States seriously undermines your belief that &quot;no Middle Eastern country is a threat to the US&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. Attempting to refute the point by generalizing the point is just dishonest. I have never said that &quot;terrorism and Islam are one&quot;. I merely refuted your assertion that terrorism is not endemic to Islam, or that Islamic terror is not a unique and dramatic threat.<br />
2. The middle east looks rich because many parts of it are rich. And the fact that 16 hijackers from Saudi Arabia committed the worst act of terrorism against the United States seriously undermines your belief that &quot;no Middle Eastern country is a threat to the US&quot;.</p>
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		<title>By: AtheistCon</title>
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		<dc:creator>AtheistCon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 10:58:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, those same useless arguments were also made against those harmless Nazis, practitioners of eugenics, Communists, sociopaths, and Scientologists. Heck, once my house was on fire, but someone else had said &quot;my house is on fire&quot; and it wasn&#039;t true, so cearly my house was not on fire. By the way, my new tent is lovely.

The &quot;this argument was also used against X&quot; canard is beneath refutation. It is asinine and sophomoric and tiresome, and it does not refute documented facts and statistics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, those same useless arguments were also made against those harmless Nazis, practitioners of eugenics, Communists, sociopaths, and Scientologists. Heck, once my house was on fire, but someone else had said &quot;my house is on fire&quot; and it wasn&#039;t true, so cearly my house was not on fire. By the way, my new tent is lovely.</p>
<p>The &quot;this argument was also used against X&quot; canard is beneath refutation. It is asinine and sophomoric and tiresome, and it does not refute documented facts and statistics.</p>
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		<title>By: The_Cynic</title>
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		<dc:creator>The_Cynic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 07:10:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you understood what liberal-leftist really thought, you would eat your words!

We believe in free speech, freedom of movement, freedom to live as you please. the essence of being a liberal is to believe in the liberty of the person!

A socialist, like me and millions of us, also believe in working as a society to eradicate inequality and tolerance of all - something that I cannot say for those who are on the right, far-right, ultra-right of the political spectrum - and I would add you to one of those rightist curriculum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you understood what liberal-leftist really thought, you would eat your words!</p>
<p>We believe in free speech, freedom of movement, freedom to live as you please. the essence of being a liberal is to believe in the liberty of the person!</p>
<p>A socialist, like me and millions of us, also believe in working as a society to eradicate inequality and tolerance of all &#8211; something that I cannot say for those who are on the right, far-right, ultra-right of the political spectrum &#8211; and I would add you to one of those rightist curriculum.</p>
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		<title>By: The_Cynic</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/06/19/the-feeble-%e2%80%98march%e2%80%99-of-euro-fascism/comment-page-1/#comment-133612</link>
		<dc:creator>The_Cynic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 07:02:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll give you credit, Tim - you do get around the &#039;net a lot. That isn&#039;t blog whoring is it? Not a direct link but a copy and paste or a type into Google will take people to you blog - but I do admire you for it.

You and I know that the UKIP will be, as much as the BNP, annihilated in the general election. The UKIP much like Veritas are nothing more than a protest vote - and, you being the guy who believes in the free markets as you do - really don&#039;t want the UK to bottle it in Europe. You want an open and free market where your dubious Adam Smith ideals will become the norm - yet, as I have said to you before, the UKIP, Tories, &quot;New&quot; Labour will do the same as Thatcher did and only incorporate certain aspects of Adam Smith philosophy and forget the other stuff that you don&#039;t like.

There is no real conviction in the UK to up sticks and leave. Most will make a comment on leaving the EU, then it will, as always, come back to UK policy - that is where the UKIP should take their blinds off. By all means become a political force in the UK, yet, I just can&#039;t see it happening.

How many of the UKIP will be standing for parliament in 2010?

I hope you are one of them, Tim - and I do hope that you get elected - it will be interesting to see how your view changes while a member of parliament.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;ll give you credit, Tim &#8211; you do get around the &#039;net a lot. That isn&#039;t blog whoring is it? Not a direct link but a copy and paste or a type into Google will take people to you blog &#8211; but I do admire you for it.</p>
<p>You and I know that the UKIP will be, as much as the BNP, annihilated in the general election. The UKIP much like Veritas are nothing more than a protest vote &#8211; and, you being the guy who believes in the free markets as you do &#8211; really don&#039;t want the UK to bottle it in Europe. You want an open and free market where your dubious Adam Smith ideals will become the norm &#8211; yet, as I have said to you before, the UKIP, Tories, &quot;New&quot; Labour will do the same as Thatcher did and only incorporate certain aspects of Adam Smith philosophy and forget the other stuff that you don&#039;t like.</p>
<p>There is no real conviction in the UK to up sticks and leave. Most will make a comment on leaving the EU, then it will, as always, come back to UK policy &#8211; that is where the UKIP should take their blinds off. By all means become a political force in the UK, yet, I just can&#039;t see it happening.</p>
<p>How many of the UKIP will be standing for parliament in 2010?</p>
<p>I hope you are one of them, Tim &#8211; and I do hope that you get elected &#8211; it will be interesting to see how your view changes while a member of parliament.</p>
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		<title>By: Amanda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 04:25:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;When are people going to tire of this same, pathetic skipping record?&quot;

Yeah- well many of us are tiring of the I&#039;ve-travelled-extensively-in-Europe multicultural bollocks.

And in case you didn&#039;t know, Catholics have never suggested the global expansion of a RC &quot;caliphate&quot;, nor do they have a system of theocratic law, nor do they advocate the killing of non-believers.

I have LIVED (not just travelled) in the UK for 15 years, mainly in London, and I know your &quot;observations&quot; are disingenuous.. I think some Europeans are finally starting to wake up, albeit in the form of getting the hell out (Brits going to NZ and Oz as never before- which is my own plan) rather than confronting this insanity head on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;When are people going to tire of this same, pathetic skipping record?&quot;</p>
<p>Yeah- well many of us are tiring of the I&#039;ve-travelled-extensively-in-Europe multicultural bollocks.</p>
<p>And in case you didn&#039;t know, Catholics have never suggested the global expansion of a RC &quot;caliphate&quot;, nor do they have a system of theocratic law, nor do they advocate the killing of non-believers.</p>
<p>I have LIVED (not just travelled) in the UK for 15 years, mainly in London, and I know your &quot;observations&quot; are disingenuous.. I think some Europeans are finally starting to wake up, albeit in the form of getting the hell out (Brits going to NZ and Oz as never before- which is my own plan) rather than confronting this insanity head on.</p>
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