Can they pay it back?

The U.S. is about to go broke and they’ll take us down with them

by Colin Campbell on Monday, June 22, 2009 2:20pm - 82 Comments

Many scoff at the idea that China will suddenly say “no more” to the U.S. After all, the two countries have had a mutually beneficial relationship for years. China lends money to the U.S. and the U.S. buys masses of consumer goods from China. What’s more, it’s a long-standing relationship and many doubt that China would want to upset the status quo. Schiff sees no logic in that argument. “That they’ll keep lending indefinitely makes about as much sense as the argument that real estate prices have been rising, so they’ll rise forever,” he says. “Nothing that is unsustainable will go on forever.”

But the thing is, China doesn’t have to entirely cut off the U.S. to cause problems. Even if China decided to pull back slightly there would be consequences. The U.S. would still find itself short of the cash it needs to pay its bills, and like a homeowner who misses a mortgage payment, it would have to find that money somehow.

Regardless of precisely how and when this all unfolds, the dollar will inevitably become less valuable and interest rates will rise as the U.S. scrambles to attract new lenders. That will translate into inflation and higher interest rates for the average person, too. The cost of living will go up and the value of people’s savings will decline. Canada would likely get dragged into the mess too, just as it was affected by the current downturn in the U.S. The question is how severely this will all hit. “We could have another economic crisis or we could simply have a termites-in-the-woodwork scenario where we gradually have an erosion of our standard of living and become a nation in decline,” says Sawhill. At the very least, from here on in, the debt will act as a giant anchor, slowing whatever modest economic growth the U.S. can muster.

For the past five years or so, a small group of economists, researchers and former government officials have put on what they call the Fiscal Wake-Up Tour. It’s a kind of travelling road show aimed at raising awareness among citizens about America’s looming debt crisis. “We’ve been frustrated that there hasn’t been more attention paid to [the debt] and that steps weren’t taken earlier,” says the Brookings Institution’s Sawhill, who’s taken part in the tour.

Lately, however, the issue has been getting more attention, say some of the tour’s participants. The trouble is, nobody has any faith that this new-found interest will translate into any timely reaction from lawmakers. There really is no politically feasible solution to America’s debt crisis at the moment. For starters, no amount of economic growth can erase the deficits the U.S. is now facing, says Susan Irving, the director of federal budget analysis at the U.S. Government Accountability Office, a congressional body that oversees how the government spends tax dollars. No matter what numbers they enter in their simulations, she says, they can’t fix the problem.

That means any solution boils down to highly unpopular tax hikes and big spending cuts. To maintain the current debt-to-GDP ratio and prevent a debt explosion from happening over the next 75 years, the government would have to either raise revenues by 44 per cent or cut spending by 31 per cent, says Irving. It’s clear that there’s no appetite whatsoever for either of those options. Tax hikes are especially daunting when you consider that health care costs in the U.S. have been growing about two per cent faster than the economy. “You can’t raise taxes fast enough to catch up,” adds Irving.

Canadians know first-hand how hard and painful it can be to wrestle down a growing national debt. In the 1990s Canada embarked on an effort to slay its much more modest annual deficits. It worked, but not without sacrifice. We ended up with higher taxes and deep cuts to services like health care.

For the Americans, the first step is to at least “stop digging,” says the Heritage Foundation’s Riedl. “Take a step back and think twice before enacting [Obama’s] very expensive proposals.” Then, somehow, lawmakers need to get together and put some spending caps in the budget, he adds. Eventually, taxes will have to go up—on that point everyone can agree. The question now is whether this happens in the midst of a crisis, or in a more measured way, with some foresight and planning. “It’s just tragic that we’re not dealing with this now,” says Auerbach. “If we do it under time pressure because suddenly U.S. interest rates are going up, it’s not going to be nice.”

But all of this is much easier said than done. What’s happened in Washington so far is minor, says Sawhill, “a drop in the bucket . . . or in the sea,” she says. There are some signs that political pressure to curb deficit spending is growing (mostly from the opposition Republicans), but no agreement on how to proceed. Democrats generally fear the looming spending cuts while Republicans fear the taxes. “Those fears are understandable—but they should be outweighed by the fear of what will happen if we fail, if our debts overwhelm us, and if the fiscal meltdown comes,” said House majority leader Steny Hoyer, in a speech last month.

Riedl finds some cause for optimism in the fact that at least Americans, both inside and outside of Washington, are finally talking about the debt problem after ignoring it for all these years. That may be one of the few positive outcomes of the economic downturn: it has led Americans to slowly begin to acknowledge the elephant in the room. “The financial crisis has shown a lot of people that dire economic calamities can happen,” he says.

Schiff, the broker-turned-celebrity-prognosticator, is concerned enough about such a calamity that he says he’s now considering taking his message straight to Washington and running for a seat in the U.S. Senate. His threat to enter politics, which he first made last week on The Daily Show with Jon Stewart, has caused some buzz in Washington. But much as he seems to crave the spotlight, he says there’s another reason for his bid. “I’d do it because somebody has got to do something to stop this. It’s going to end in misery.”

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  • Monnie

    With all due respect, this article is way behind the curve.

    The Chinese have already started cutting back. How? By reducing their total Treasury "investments", by pretty much restricting their Treasury buying to the short-term stuff, by drastically raising their gold and other commodity purchases, by spending more of their money on their own infrastructure, and by buying much more into our hedge funds(which are somewhat guaranteeed by our Treasury Dept., and for which they are using their T-bonds as collateral!).

    They will also start demanding to be allowed to buy large equity interests in our corporations, and we will be ill advised to decline, as we did in 2005 in that Unocal deal.

    BTW, they will also start more openly dictating our foreign policy on a behind-the-scenes basis, if they are not already so doing, especially in areas that concern them directly, such as Taiwan and the South Pacific.

  • John Weir

    Can the U.S. pay it back? You bet. First the money will be debased and the creditors will be repaid in worthless dollars. Savers will be wiped out as will all currencies tied to the greenback. The quickest path to recovery is the collapse of the Federal Reserve System and the U.S. government. The longer this rotted system tries to keep the life support plug from being pulled, the more painful this process is going to be for everyone.

  • Monnie

    The USA has painted itself into a corner, which debt spending always does eventually. We've played every delaying tactic, but the world is starting to wise up to our little game.

    The Chinese have been our enabler. Of course, it's been good for them, too, up to a point, but now their biggest customer isn't buying so much, and tens of millions of Chinese are now unemployed as a result. They also realize they are WAY overinvested in our debt, and we are going to stiff them through inflation or default.

    The USD is about to lose its reserve currency status.

    Canada, don't follow USA's lead into the economic and social abyss!

  • Monnie

    The idiot Keynesians and statists—and they infest the banking industry, the government, the media, and academia—have gotten the whole world into a gigantic mess.

    The Austrian School economists like Schiff saw this train wreck coming long ago, but they were mostly ignored until now. On a political level, Ron Paul is one of the very few who has a clue, and he's been ostracized as some right-wing nutball.

    We idiotic and apathetic Americans will have to suffer through a full-on systemic collapse to start to understand the truth about our debt spending, and our terrible government and Federal Reserve market meddling. Too bad Canada and much of the rest of the world will have to suffer some as well.

  • http://www.campaignforliberty.com xdream

    Good story but the numbers are all wrong. We're 12 trillion in debt. We've printed 8 trillion in two years. The Bailouts are over 12.8 trillion, the war was 3.2 trillion, and social security and medicare etc are 56 trillion. So… That's 92 trillion. How much is a Babe Ruth baseball card worth if you print 8 trillion of them? Nothing.

  • http://www.campaignforliberty.com Patrick

    Economic depressions and recessions are inevitable whether in a free market or socialized / fascist hybrids seen across the world and specifically in the US. Mal-investment is the root cause and recessions purge the mal-investment liquidate the assets of the speculators who guessed wrong and reward those with the ability to buy up assets and put them to market supported uses. When governments intervene they protect and subsidize mal-investment there by rewarding failure (GM, jpmc, boa, aig, gs, etc [not lehman]) think bush giving paul bremmer and others the medal of freedom for their planning and "effectiveness" in Iraq. Without the liquidation of malinvestment, the inevitable recession/correction is only DELAYED.

  • CourtGQuinn

    Kuiu Island, Alaska. Approx 2000 sq km. Singapore approx 650 sq km. Hong Kong approx 1100 sq km. Rhode Island approx 2700 sq km.

    America to China: "How about this…to settle some of our debt we give you Kuiu Island in Alaska to establish a great, new Chinese American city. It could be the biggest city north of Seattle and Vancouver on the Pacific northwest coast. Kuiu is located near Prince Rupert BC which has railway and port facilities to support a new city of a few million. We can negotiate economic considerations and political representation. Perhaps Kuiu could be a stand alone city state within America or maybe Kuiu could be part of Alaska jurisdictions/laws but independent as a city. Perhaps the million plus inhabitants of Kuiu might gain instant proportional voting rights within the House of Representatives…with future considerations regarding electoral college presidental votes and Senate seats. Perhaps the island might be listed as a fire-arm free province…yet there still might be great opportunities for hunting on the mainland with Native and American guides.

    • CourtGQuinn

      continued…

      The Chinese who come to inhabit and build in Kuiu could make futuristic buildings worthy of settlement and tourists from China and mainland North America. While not exclusively a "white collar" city due to land constraints…."New Hong Kong"/Kuiu could showcase Chinese excellence in trades involving medicine, technology, tourism…yet be situated in a North American time zone and a short flight/boatride from Seattle/SanFran/Vancouver.

      The Japanese buying Rockefeller Centre in the 80's as a "showcase" deal is not apt for the situation China and America finds itself in today. "Big deals" need to be thought of that are mutually beneficial for both China and America.

    • CourtGQuinn

      Did you know that Germany tried to buy Anticosti Island in the Gulf of St.Lawrence in 1937? Big island…almost 8000 sq km. Makes one wonder how history would have turned out if PM King would have allowed such a deal to go through. Also makes one wonder if Germany/Nazis/Hitler were thinking of inhabiting the island with Jews or "other" Germans. I've heard about the German "Madagascar plan", but only after researching Anticosti on wiki did i learn about the proposed deal in 1937.

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  • Monnie

    Little Pudding—brilliant exposition! I wish everyone could read and copy it for later rereading. Tell me if there's a way I can do that, will you?

    Patrick—-You're spot on. The gov'ts refuse to allow the market to correct, because they don't understand how the real world works, or because it would be very politically unwise in the short term to tell the sheeple, "Look, the gov't cannot fix this. We've got to let the economy fix itself over time. We'll do our best to get the heck out of the way, and there will be a LOT of pain while this is happening, but in the long run we'll all be much better for it. If we don't allow the market to self-correct, we'll have a total collapse."

  • Nicolae

    In 1492, Chemor, chief Rabbi of Spain, wrote to the Grand Sanhedrin, which had its seat in Constantinople, for advice, when a Spanish law threatened expulsion.2 This was the reply:

    ” Beloved brethren in Moses, we have received your letter in which you tell us of the anxieties and misfortunes which you are enduring. We are pierced by as great pain to hear it as yourselves.

    The advice of the Grand Satraps and Rabbis is the following:

    1. As for what you say that the King of Spain obliges you to become Christians: do it, since you cannot do otherwise.

    2. As for what you say about the command to despoil you of your property: make your sons merchants that they may despoil, little by little, the Christians of theirs.

    3. As for what you say about making attempts on your lives: make your sons doctors and apothecaries, that they may take away Christians’ lives.

    4. As for what you say of their destroying your synagogues: make your sons canons and clerics in order that they may destroy their churches. [Emphasis mine]

    5. As for the many other vexations you complain of: arrange that your sons become advocates and lawyers, and see that they always mix in affairs of State, that by putting Christians under your yoke you may dominate the world and be avenged on them.

    6. Do not swerve from this order that we give you, because you will find by experience that, humiliated as you are, you will reach the actuality of power.

    (Signed) PRINCE OF THE JEWS OF CONSTANTINOPLE.”

    2. The reply is found in the sixteenth century Spanish book, La Silva Curiosa, by Julio-Iniguez de Medrano (Paris, Orry, 1608), on pages 156 and 157, with the following explanation: “This letter following was found in the archives of Toledo by the Hermit of Salamanca, (while) searching the ancient records of the kingdoms of Spain; and, as it is expressive and remarkable, I wish to write it here.” — vide, photostat facing page 80.

    ~ The above was quoted from Waters Flowing Eastward by Paquita de Shishmareff, pp. 73-74 YOU ASSISTED THE CONVERTED KHAZARS JEWS TO DO THIS TO AMERICA.JEWS HAVE ADOPTED JUDAISM IN 740 KINGDOM OF KHAZARIA,BIBLE,REVELATION 2:9,,3:9…ZECHARIAH 2:1,,2:2,,2:3,,2:4 USA=NEW ISRAEL.

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  • Jasper

    I thought I was reading the Washinton Times for few moments…

    When did MacLean's morph into a wildly right wing rag? Y'all do realize this Schiff fellow was an adviser to Ron Paul, don't you, and that he's an advocate of the bat sh*t crazy Austrian School? What's next, articles about how Obama is a Muslim?

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  • Gary Ogletree

    America needs Canadian oil, gas, hydroelectric, lumber… Canada needs, uh, uh, the NFL?

  • Gary Ogletree

    The story smells like a fraud. Jews have contributed far more to Western Civ than they have received. Don't buy the propaganda.

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  • http://www.stocktradersblog.com Stock Traders Blog

    That is an excellent article that that everyone should read. As an investor, an ordinary person, one of the working class I think I have to keep the points for the article in mind and that will help me manage my life better to prepare for the worst.

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  • m.r….

    YES! when you start 'manufacturing paper' instead of things it is the beginning of the end. it applies to Canada as well. we also have little control of major industries due to foreign ownership. we may have to join USA more than we may like to. and we will go down with them as well, in unison!

  • http://www.usamovingandstorage.com/ Chicago mover

    I very much agree with PolJunkie that around 80 % of our export market is tied to the US.

  • llfow33@gmail.com

    canada has wien it self off the usa they are going down and if we start now we may have to go down with them

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