John Parisella

John Parisella

John Parisella writes about U.S. politics from his vantage point as the former Delegate-General in New York City for Quebec. Follow John on Twitter:  @JohnParisella

Neo Conservatives Are Dead Wrong

by John Parisella on Tuesday, June 23, 2009 3:24pm - 59 Comments

The Neda video and the many other disturbing photos coming out of Iran show the protest movement there will continue to take on a life of its own, with courageous dissenters facing repression in the form of bullets and sticks. Pressure is now mounting on President Obama to take a more aggressive stand against the Iranian regime and do what is necessary to ensure its downfall. This approach has its origins with the same bunch of neoconservative   stalwarts in the Republican Party who hijacked President George W. Bush ‘s presidency shortly after 9-11 to push back against the new axis of evil of the day—Iran, Iraq, and North Korea.

It was not long before the US was engaged in the invasion of Iraq and the toppling of Saddam Hussein. To this day, the mission in Iraq is inconclusive, Afghanistan is still a dangerous place with no end to the war in sight, and Osama Bin Laden is still making tapes! We now know that much of the build-up to the Iraq war was based on faulty intelligence and, in some cases, fabricated evidence. Now, many of the same observers—like Paul Wolfowitz—are calling for Obama to take the U.S. on a path that can only lead to a more direct intervention. Obama must not listen to the neoconservatives on Iran. They are dead wrong.

By exercising restraint and caution, the current administration is seemingly taking a page out of George H.W. Bush’s playbook from the fall of the Soviet empire. This is encouraging and will hopefully remain the approach. History has recorded the positive effect of this policy. In the current issue of Newsweek, Fareed Zakaria illustrates the risks involved with the Wolfowitz neoconservative approach, and the Obama administration would do well to heed his warnings. The Iranian crisis is made-from-within and it must run its course. Zakaria argues the regime is quickly losing its legitimacy in the battle between conservative theocrats and reformist democrats, which are largely supported by women and the growing number of youth (over 65% of the population are under 30 years of age). The Supreme Leader no longer has the influence the mullahs expected and cracks in the regime are now evident.

The US cannot claim any moral high ground when it comes to Iran. It installed the brutal regime of the Shah after democratic elections in 1953; it supported Saddam in his war against Iran, which included the use of chemical weapons against the Iranian people in the 1980s; and it failed to protect Iraq’s Shia population from persecution after the first Gulf War. This is not the time to revert to the failed policies of the past policies, which have only served to fuel Islamic fundamentalism.

The West is understandably alarmed at the pictures emanating from Iran. The leaders are right to condemn the repression and should make humanitarian assistance available where it is needed. But unless the U.S. and others are prepared to undertake a full-scale invasion—and subsequently deal with its disastrous repercussions—it is better to use caution and stay on the current course. Following the logic of neoconservatives would only bring escalation and disaster.

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  • http://intensedebate.com/people/SeanStok SeanStok

    "Following the logic of neoconservatives would only bring escalation and disaster."

    Have they ever been right about *anything* in the last fifteen years? Even by accident?

    • André

      They should be a bit more old school cons:

      http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0526-05.h…

    • RightStuff

      Even though I am conservative, I have to agree with John here. The Bush doctrine has been a massive failure. Therefore interfering would indeed bring esclation and disaster. Even the Iran reformists don't trust the USA. It is not always about the USA. This is about Iran. Perhaps you would like Harper to send some troops over there as well.

      • uassbengool

        You are smart Right stuff . Let Iran work it out . They are on the path of revolution .

  • uassbengoll

    cheney , limbaugh and Wolfowitz are dangerous hawks who start wars and never have an exit strategy . Dangerous men . Include Richard Perle and Ditzy Palin .

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/jolyon jolyon

    "By exercising restraint and caution, the current administration is seemingly taking a page out of George H.W. Bush’s playbook from the fall of the Soviet empire."

    You think Bush's 'Chicken Kiev' strategy/speech is the way to go? Not sure why but it still shocks me when people in the West tell people who are fighting for freedom to go hang because they are more worried about stability or negotiating than they are about liberty.

    I don't think America should be getting ready to drop bombs on Tehran but there is a whole lot of other things they could/should be doing to help the dissidents. And expressing clear moral statements in support of the protesters is the absolute minimum Obama/US should be doing. No revolution in recent memory was a success without strong internal resistance and lots of foreign help (moral, monetary and material). So everyone who thinks US/West should stay out of what's happening are in fact helping the Iranian despots, who are currently killing people for wanting freedom, retain power.

    While the mad mullahs were killing citizens last week, Obama described it as a 'debate'. Do you think he should tone down the rhetoric or was that just about right?

  • http://www.intensedebate.com/people/jolyon jolyon

    "By exercising restraint and caution, the current administration is seemingly taking a page out of George H.W. Bush’s playbook from the fall of the Soviet empire."

    You think Bush's 'Chicken Kiev' strategy/speech is the way to go? Not sure why but it still shocks me when people in the West tell people who are fighting for freedom to go hang because they are more worried about stability or negotiating than they are about liberty.

    I don't think America should be getting ready to drop bombs on Tehran but there is a whole lot of other things they could/should be doing to help the dissidents. And expressing clear moral statements in support of the protesters is the absolute minimum Obama/US should be doing. No revolution in recent memory was a success without strong internal resistance and lots of foreign help (moral, monetary and material). So everyone who thinks US/West should stay out of what's happening are in fact helping the Iranian despots, who are currently killing people for wanting freedom, retain power.

    While the mad mullahs were killing citizens last week, Obama described it as a 'debate'. Do you think Obama should tone down the rhetoric or was that just about right?

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/jolyon jolyon

    "By the way, how's the whole liberty thing working out almost everywhere else the ready-fire-aim crowd has pushed the USA and other western powers into clumsy and half-hearted involvement?"

    Que? I don't know what you are talking about specifically but toppling dictators and trying to introduce democracy/liberty is never a bad thing. Again, I am always shocked by people in the West who are quite happy to let people rot under despots while making it seem like we are doing them a favour because who likes freedom or liberty anyways.

    • uassbengoll

      Stop the richard Perle/Wolfowitz crap , jolyon . US have used the CIA to put Shah in place . They have supprted the Saudi despots . So stop this stupidity . America acts in its own interests , not because of ideals . obama has been smart because helping a bit is not enough . You go in and be prepared for a long protracted insurgence . hard to believe this crap . Oh no . jolyon probably supports Ditzy palin .

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/SeanStok SeanStok

      Oh, take the examples put forward by Parisella as starters. Of course liberty is a good thing. But chaotic vacuums, even democratic ones, can be ultimately more harmful – particularly when outside powers get selectively involved.

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/SisyphusThis SisyphusThis

      Gotta love the pseudo-strategists that cheer on the kids dying in the streets while massaging a mess of borrowed
      "principles". If we feel so strongly about it, book a flight ….

      http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8110807.st…

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/SisyphusThis SisyphusThis

      Gotta love the pseudo-strategists that cheer on the kids dying in the streets while massaging a mess of borrowed
      "principles". If we feel so strongly about it, book a flight ….

      http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8110807.st…

      • scf

        The people in the streets have chosen to do so of their own free will, and courage like that is worth applause and support.

    • André

      Well you're an Arsenal alright you think every issue should be taken to the streets.

  • Wayne

    When is Neo Con no longer new I mean neo means new and the yankee republican sect that was so called neo-con is long gone therefore by definition neocon is oldcon?

    • Gevulde Koek

      Um. That's not really the way political theory works.

  • lmn

    neo cons got us in trouble in the Middle East . Their blind support of Israel did not help either . This jolyon person has an appalling lack of knowledge about history . The US has supported dictators and terrorrists . Now these HYPOCRITICAL REPUBLICANS want Obama to scream , meddle and intervene .
    NO . NEVER.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/Garnet Garnet

    So the U.S. shouldn't install a new Shah, and shouldn't get an ally to use poison gas on Iranians. Got it. Is Obama even allowed to object verbally? He's been a bit reluctant to do even that, it seems.

  • http://www.intensedebate.com/people/jolyon jolyon

    "By exercising restraint and caution, the current administration is seemingly taking a page out of George H.W. Bush’s playbook from the fall of the Soviet empire."

    You think Bush's 'Chicken Kiev' strategy/speech is the way to go? Not sure why but it still shocks me when people in the West tell people who are fighting for freedom to go hang because they are more worried about stability or negotiating than they are about liberty.

    I don't think America should be getting ready to drop bombs on Tehran but there is a whole lot of other things they could/should be doing to help the dissidents and expressing clear moral statements in support of the protesters is the absolute minimum Obama/US should be doing. No revolution in recent memory was a success without strong internal resistance and lots of foreign help (moral, monetary and material). So everyone who thinks US/West should stay out of what's happening are in fact helping the Iranian despots, who are currently killing people for wanting freedom, retain power.

    While the mad mullahs were killing citizens last week, Obama described it as a 'debate'. Do you think Obama should tone down the rhetoric or was that just about right?

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/SeanStok SeanStok

      "While the mad mullahs were killing citizens last week, Obama described it as a 'debate'. Do you think Obama should tone down the rhetoric or was that just about right?"

      Are you unable or unwilling to see the context of the "debate" description? You know, that part where he talks about the delicate position the USA is in, with regard to being used as a "foil" to empower those same mullahs? Even a clear moral statement from the US could do more harm than good, is the essence of his argument. Disagree with him if you will, but enough of the selective use of quotes.

      By the way, how's the whole liberty thing working out almost everywhere else the ready-fire-aim crowd has pushed the USA and other western powers into clumsy and half-hearted involvement?

      Let me be clear that there's lots of roo

    • http://www.intensedebate.com/people/SeanStok SeanStok

      "While the mad mullahs were killing citizens last week, Obama described it as a 'debate'. Do you think Obama should tone down the rhetoric or was that just about right?"

      Are you unable or unwilling to see the context of the "debate" description? You know, that part where he talks about the delicate position the USA is in, with regard to being used as a "foil" to empower those same mullahs? Even a clear moral statement from the US could do more harm than good, is the essence of his argument. Disagree with him if you will, but enough of the selective use of quotes.

      By the way, how's the whole liberty thing working out almost everywhere else the ready-fire-aim crowd has pushed the USA and other western powers into clumsy and half-hearted involvement?

    • RightStuff

      You seen to me under the impression that the Iran reformists are big American supporters. I assure you they are not. Let's not give that regime any reason to say "See, America wants to control you."

  • http://americanpowerblog.blogspot.com/ Americaneocon

    Blame the U.S. … got it. God, and you're so ahistorical. Eisenhower was no neocon, but his CIA authorized the coup. Kinda had the Soviets to worry about at the time, you think? Currently, he neoconservative approach kept the U.S. attack free for the last 8 years. The "realist" approach taken by the current administration has abandoned American principles. Your essay is a disaster, Sir.

    • lmn

      Lying and making up excuses to start a false war and you called that principle . All evidence points to Bush and Cheney ignoring evidence that led to 9-11.You ignore facts and history,Americaneocon.Your piece is a total fabrication .

    • André

      …and the pinko commie approach before 9/11 has kept the U.S. attack free for 8 years before then. Poor use of empirical data.

      I don't know which one of the American principles involves fabricating evidence to prosecute unilaterally a neutered country.

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/repsac3 repsac3

      Don't take them too seriously, professor… These Canadians are probably just nihilists, like everyone else who doesn't agree with you…

      The prevailing opinion isn't that our beloved US was or is at fault, but that US intervention of the type most often advocated by American neocons hasn't been a rousing success thus far. I'm all for promoting democracies all over the world, but I just don't believe we can or should install them at gunpoint.

      • http://intensedebate.com/people/Garnet Garnet

        I am curious as to who, exactly, is advocating an invasion of Iran. If we can find no important person who is advocating this, can we all stop addressing this straw man?

        • http://intensedebate.com/people/repsac3 repsac3

          There probably are those advocating an invasion of Iran (Whoever was it who was singin' that catchy little song not all that long ago?), but I was speaking more generally about the American neoconservative penchant for intervention and use of the military to achieve "friendly" governments in far-off places. What I was trying to say was, I agree with the ends–like many Americocentric Americans, I would certainly prefer it if every other country adopted "our" form of government, and I do believe that there would be greater peace & prosperity if the rest of y'all would just get with the program (not "programme," or however else you unamerican foreigners spell it)–but I don't support the means that neocons tend to think are hunky-dorry–like military incursions or secret CIA "interventions". I believe in diplomacy and setting a good example, and only resorting to intervention or invasion as a last resort, when absolutely necessary to protect American/allied life, limb, interests. I'm sorry for creating any confusion.

          Neoconservatism : "Neoconservatism is a political philosophy that emerged in the United States of America, and which supports using American economic and military power to bring liberalism, democracy, and human rights to other countries."

          • http://intensedebate.com/people/Garnet Garnet

            Well, now we're getting into suitably deep waters. Do you think you might approve of economic measures (at least as an option) but not military, if the American government is persuaded that Ahmadenijad stole the election? These are, admittedly, hard questions for a free-trading, freedom-loving country.

    • http://www.intensedebate.com/people/SeanStok SeanStok

      In point of fact, I have consumed a peanut butter and jelly sandwich daily for the last eight years. I began this ritual on September 12, 2001, and the U.S. has remained attack free.

      You're welcome.

      • http://intensedebate.com/people/repsac3 repsac3

        Dude… You're like, my hero.

        Thank you for keeping all of us here in the US attack free through your generous ingestion.

        It takes a brave soul, ya'know…

        • http://intensedebate.com/people/SeanStok SeanStok

          lol!

          You don't even want to know what I do daily for Canada's sake…

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/Gaunilon Gaunilon

    "Never go to war unless you are prepared to win it," as the saying goes.

    If Parisella is saying that the US must talk belligerently unless she is prepared to walk belligerently, then I agree. However, the "neo-conservatives", so far as I know, are only advocating firm verbal support for those being crushed under a jackboot in Tehran. At least, that is all McCain has advicated; I'm not sure why Wolfowitz (no longer in government, yes?) has anything to do with it.

    Surely even Parisella agrees that the US must speak up in favor of the oppressed. In fact, Obama did just that in his press conference today. Finally.

  • http://www.intensedebate.com/people/Gaunilon Gaunilon

    "Never go to war unless you are prepared to win it," as the saying goes.

    If Parisella is saying that the US must not talk belligerently unless she is prepared to walk belligerently, then I agree. However, the "neo-conservatives", so far as I know, are only advocating firm verbal support for those being crushed under a jackboot in Tehran. At least, that is all McCain has advicated; I'm not sure why Wolfowitz (no longer in government, yes?) has anything to do with it.

    Surely even Parisella agrees that the US must speak up in favor of the oppressed. In fact, Obama did just that in his press conference today. Finally.

  • http://www.intensedebate.com/people/Gaunilon Gaunilon

    "Never go to war unless you are prepared to win it," as the saying goes.

    If Parisella is saying that the US must not talk belligerently unless she is prepared to walk belligerently, then I agree. However, the "neo-conservatives", so far as I know, are only advocating firm verbal support for those being crushed under a jackboot in Tehran. At least, that is all McCain has advocated; I'm not sure why Wolfowitz (no longer in government, yes?) has anything to do with it. Such support is hardly belligerent.

    Surely even Parisella agrees that the US must speak up in favor of the oppressed. In fact, Obama did just that in his press conference today. Finally.

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/Jack_Mitchell Jack Mitchell

      But if Obama used the rhetoric the neocons want, in this digital age the clip would be played on Iranian TV ad nauseam, together with propaganda claiming it as proof that Foreign Powers are driving the protests. That would drive the broad middle of the Iranian people, who are currently standing on the sidelines, into the arms of the dictators. How will that help democracy in Iran? What Parisella is saying here is that being in favour of democracy and freedom does not involve loving the United States; thus, an American endorsement does not improve democracy's chances. The bottom line in this case is: are you more in favour of the United States or more in favour of freedom?

    • http://www.intensedebate.com/people/Jack_Mitchell Jack Mitchell

      But if Obama used the rhetoric the neocons want, in this digital age the clip would be played on Iranian TV ad nauseam, together with propaganda claiming it as proof that Foreign Powers are driving the protests. That would drive the broad middle of the Iranian people, who are currently standing on the sidelines, into the arms of the dictators. How will that help democracy in Iran? What Parisella is saying here is that being in favour of democracy and freedom does not necessarily involve loving the United States; thus, an American endorsement does not improve democracy's chances. The bottom line in this case is: are you more in favour of the United States or more in favour of freedom?

    • http://www.intensedebate.com/people/Jack_Mitchell Jack Mitchell

      But if Obama used the rhetoric the neocons want, in this digital age the clip would be played on Iranian TV ad nauseam, together with propaganda claiming it as proof that Foreign Powers are driving the protests. That would drive the broad middle of the Iranian people, who are currently standing on the sidelines, into the arms of the dictators. How will that help democracy in Iran? What Parisella is saying here is that being in favour of democracy and freedom does not necessarily involve loving the United States; thus, an American endorsement does not automatically improve democracy's chances. The bottom line in this case is: are you more in favour of the United States or more in favour of freedom?

      • Bill Simpson

        But who are we talking to here? The mad mullahs have already blamed the brits and the us for all their ills, so I can't see much more blame be noticable here. The average Iranian is probably sitting at home, hoping not to get fingered as a subversive, and are unlikely to be influenced by this, one way or another. The only ones left are the reformists, both active and potentially active, and I am betting that they are encouraged by the general opprobrium being heaped on the mad mullah's heads.

        I think it is also worth Obama letting the mad mullah's know that Achmendinijad (sic) has absolutely zero credibility after this election. They are not all stupid and this will surely shade their thinking.

        On the whole, I see no loss in speaking strongly and plainly and some potential upside. Plus, speaking the truth should be the default position, not the fallback.

        • http://intensedebate.com/people/Jack_Mitchell Jack Mitchell

          "The average Iranian is probably sitting at home, hoping not to get fingered as a subversive, and are unlikely to be influenced by this, one way or another."

          I dunno, Bill, I think the average Iranian is very nationalistic. I wouldn't appreciate a foreign head of state lecturing Canada about its constitution, e.g. re: Quebec, and given that the Iranian regime is playing up their CIA conspiracy theory I think it would be (will be) totally counterproductive to weigh in, at least any more than Obama has done.

      • http://intensedebate.com/people/Gaunilon Gaunilon

        Actually I think the "neocons" were entirely satisfied with Obama's rhetoric. See this writeup on one of the best rightwing blogs: Powerlineblog.t
        The only criticism most are offering is that he should also be cancelling the invitation for the Mullahs to join him on July 4th for a BBQ. I think, given that they're currently shooting innocent people somewhat indiscriminately, that's perfectly reasonable.

        So, in fact, there is no dichotomy at the moment between favouring the US and favouring freedom. One best serves the latter by defending the former, in this case by speaking out against the brownshirts in Tehran.

      • http://www.intensedebate.com/people/Gaunilon Gaunilon

        Actually I think the "neocons" were entirely satisfied with Obama's rhetoric. See this writeup on one of the best rightwing blogs: Powerlineblog.
        The only criticism most are offering is that he should also be cancelling the invitation for the Mullahs to join him on July 4th for a BBQ. I think, given that they're currently shooting innocent people somewhat indiscriminately, that's perfectly reasonable.

        So, in fact, there is no dichotomy at the moment between favouring the US and favouring freedom. One best serves the latter by defending the former, in this case by speaking out against the brownshirts in Tehran.

      • http://www.intensedebate.com/people/Gaunilon Gaunilon

        Actually I think the "neocons" were entirely satisfied with Obama's rhetoric. See this writeup on one of the best rightwing blogs: Powerlineblog.
        The only criticisms most are offering is that (a) he is about a week late, having apparently been goaded into action by mounting criticism, and (b) he should also be cancelling the invitation for the Mullahs to join him on July 4th for a BBQ. I think, given that they're currently shooting innocent people somewhat indiscriminately, that's perfectly reasonable.

        So, in fact, there is no dichotomy at the moment between favouring the US and favouring freedom. One best serves the latter by defending the former, in this case by speaking out against the brownshirts in Tehran.

        • http://intensedebate.com/people/Jack_Mitchell Jack Mitchell

          "One best serves the former by defending the latter"

          How, exactly? Enough with the platitudes: please explain how giving the Iranian regime video clips of Obama lecturing Iran will help overthrow the regime. Will the Iranian undecideds hear his words, think "Gee, I've never heard that idea before," and march out to join the protesters? Please explain, I'm so curious.

          • http://intensedebate.com/people/jolyon jolyon

            People like to be recognized. I have read lots of statements from dissidents, mainly from East Bloc/Europe countries, who said it made a world of difference to them when Reagan came along and started talking about the evil empire and the like.

            The Times (London) has an article today by Babak Zamanian, an Iranian dissident, who writes that he would like the West to step up the rhetoric a bit. People want to know someone is watching, and hoping for their success, while they struggle against the despots. Did you notice all those signs in English the Iranians were carrying? They are sending us messages and want to receive them in turn, which is why Obama's performance last week was so shameful.

            At least I can be grateful Obama was able to pry himself away from golf and ice cream socials on the weekend to issue some proper statements over the past couple of days.

          • http://intensedebate.com/people/Jack_Mitchell Jack Mitchell

            There is no comparison between the Warsaw Pact countries and Iran, because the Warsaw Pact countries had been conquered by a foreign power, so local nationalism already had a target of resentment against outside interference (to say the least). Not so in Iran.

            It's a big mistake to suppose there are only two actors in this drama, the protesters and the authorities. There is a third actor, which is Iranian popular opinion (currently sitting on the sidelines — still!). The purpose of non-violent protest is to zugzwang the authorities, who are left unable to crack down for fear of alienating popular opinion. Iranian popular opinion is not yet committed, and it is profoundly anti-American; therefore identifying the protesters with America can only push popular opinion into the arms of the authorities. It doesn't take an advanced degree in political science to notice this stuff.

          • http://intensedebate.com/people/Gaunilon Gaunilon

            Having a popular public figure speak out in defense of the protesters boosts their morale and numbers. This is fairly obvious. It lets the protesters know that they are not alone.

            Having been on such a protest (i.e. one at which violence was used in an attempt to intimidate the protesters into going home), I can vouch for this from personal experience. I take it you can't.

          • http://intensedebate.com/people/Gaunilon Gaunilon

            And, I see Obama has just now rescinded the invitation to the Mullahs for July 4th embassy BBQ's. Good, but again, clearly determined by political blowback rather than principle. The guy is Clinton redux.

          • lmn

            You still do NOT understand . Right wing Americans like you are unfortunately too ignorant ( I am generous ) about Middle East poltics . Bush did not know the difference between Sunnis and Shiites. You obviously do not know the difference between what is going on in Iran and your own protest experience . Jack Mitchell makes a great point about Iranian nationalism and public opinion. Iranians have little respect for the land of Spears ,high crime , no real gun control ,and Hilton . Fortunately , Obama has grasped that . Too bad , you have not , Gaunilon .

          • http://intensedebate.com/people/Gaunilon Gaunilon

            I'm not American, bub. And while we're pointing out false assumptions and poor punctuation, I'm not entirely ignorant of Middle East politics either.

            The point stands (unless you have a valid argument to make): any leader with principles and stones would immediately come out in favour of the protesters, at the very least for moral support. Obama, having neither, did so only after the Neda video went viral and made his prior silence look like what it was: political cowardice.

          • http://www.intensedebate.com/people/Gaunilon Gaunilon

            I'm not American, bub. And while we're pointing out false assumptions and poor punctuation, I'm not entirely ignorant of Middle East politics either.

            The point stands (unless you have a valid argument to make): any leader with principles and stones would immediately come out in favour of the protesters – at the very least for moral support. Obama, having neither, did so only after the Neda video went viral and made his prior silence look like what it was: political cowardice.

          • lmn

            American or otherwise , you are still short on facts . From day one , Obama condemned the highhandedness of the regime . His first statement the day of the results was thoughtful,appropriately cautious and fully cognizant of not giving the pretext of meddling .Courage and strength is often expressed by not following the herd mentality of ultra Right Wingers like you .Bush ( your hero , no doubt or maybe it is Cheney ),on the other hand followed the herd , had little knowledge, and finally lied his way through the crisis. Tell me otherwise Gaunilon .

      • http://www.intensedebate.com/people/Gaunilon Gaunilon

        Actually I think the "neocons" were entirely satisfied with Obama's rhetoric. See this writeup on one of the best rightwing blogs: Powerlineblog.
        The only criticisms most are offering is that (a) he is about a week late, having apparently been goaded into action by mounting dismay at his inaction, and (b) he should also be cancelling the invitation for the Mullahs to join him on July 4th for a BBQ. I think, given that they're currently shooting innocent people somewhat indiscriminately, that's perfectly reasonable.

        So, in fact, there is no dichotomy at the moment between favouring the US and favouring freedom. One best serves the latter by defending the former, in this case by speaking out against the brownshirts in Tehran.

      • http://www.intensedebate.com/people/Gaunilon Gaunilon

        Actually I think the "neocons" were entirely satisfied with Obama's rhetoric. See this writeup on one of the best rightwing blogs: Powerlineblog.
        The only criticisms most are offering is that (a) he is about a week late, having apparently been goaded into action by mounting dismay at his inaction, and (b) he should also be cancelling the invitation for the Mullahs to join him on July 4th for a BBQ. I think, given that they're currently shooting innocent people somewhat indiscriminately, that's perfectly reasonable.

        So, in fact, there is no dichotomy at the moment between favouring the US and favouring freedom. One best serves the former by defending the latter, in this case by speaking out against the brownshirts in Tehran.

  • scf

    This essay is garbage. Iraq is not inconclusive, now it is a stable and peaceful democracy. Same with Afghanistan – while it might not be fully stabilized, it is light years beyond what it was like under the Taliban. And in case your memory falters, the US taken a stance of negotiating with Iran for many years now, this is hardly a change of tactic with this new administration.

    • André

      Some light read before you go and say something as stupid as Iraq being a stable and peaceful democracy.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_War

      • lmn

        scf:
        Not well documented. US has had low level talks with Iran nut NO negotiations . Iraq is not stable if you read the latest casualties. afghanistan is having its worst insurgency since 2001 , dixit CNN and MSNBC this morning . So drop your bathroom reading and get smart.

    • RightStuff

      Hmmm- you best read up on your Afghanistan facts. The Taliban is far from gone. 4317 US deaths in Iraq so far. And who is to say the govt in Iraq will stand? Truth is, democracy is most successful as a grassroots movement- whenever it is "installed" it often fails….

  • RightStuff

    I have to say- Obama' s position on Iran is the first time he has impressed me. It would be much easy to get on the rhetoric bandwagon… Jon Stewart is right- Obama's approach is that of Dr. King, rather than that Malcolm X. And it is exactly what is needed.

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