UPDATED: Brad Trost speaks! Diane Ablonczy? Still MIA.

by kadyomalley on Friday, July 10, 2009 7:55am - 33 Comments

UPDATE: The Globe’s Adam Radwanski has more on the still not satisfactorily answered question of what precipitated PMO to send out that fateful caucus bulletin on the marquee event program.

The interview — which appeared in today’s Saskatoon Star-Phoenix, confirms that he “stands by his statement”, but doesn’t want it to seem as though he’s “criticizing” the now de-funded minister:

“My goal is not to criticize Diane, and that’s what people are trying to make the story of,” he said. “Diane has done a good job as a minister and I didn’t want to continue to add to the whole concept of criticizing Diane that was being implied.”

“Implied”, one can only presume, by LifeSite News, which, in its original story, had Trost “hint[ing] that Minister Diane Ablonczy, who was responsible for the funding, lost the file as a consequence of the embarrassment to the Party,” although it added that he had “protest[ed] more than once that there was no “official connection,” — while simultaneously telling the reporter that, “it should be noted that the file has been reassigned to a different Cabinet Minister since that announcement was made.”

He’s still against funding for parades, though. Well, some parades. Okay, that parade:

The MP said he hasn’t reviewed all of the Canadian events that have received funding through MTEP, but so far Toronto Pride Week appears to be the only one he thinks should not have received federal dollars.

“I haven’t actually looked through the whole entire list, but it may be that this one is the unique one,” he said. “I’ve seen about a partial list of what was funded through this program, but not a complete list.”

Trost hopes MTEP eventually expands to fund smaller events such as local parades.

Spoken like a true “fiscal conservative”.

From the Star-Phoenix, we also learn that the PMO talking points that apparently inspired Trost’s initial foray into a Ryan Sparrowian attempt at damage control, have also turned up in a letter to constituents sent out by his fellow Saskatchewan backbencher, Maurice Vellacott:

In response to the funding scandal, Maurice Vellacott, Conservative MP for Saskatoon-Wanuskewin, sent a letter this week to his constituents saying federal Industry Minister Tony Clement, who is now responsible for MTEP, is conducting a review of the program to ensure funding is “providing appropriate stimulus to the economy.”

“Hardworking Canadians expect their tax dollars will be used for suitable purposes,” Vellacott wrote.

Note how, in Vellacott’s version of the story, the review is to ensure that the stimulus will be “appropriate” and “suitable”, and not “genuine”, which was how PMO described it, which suggests that even if the investment in Pride Toronto turns out to have brought in buckets full of tourist dollars, it still might not meet some undetermined – and unexplained – standard that he, apparently, believes that Tony Clement will now retroactively apply to successfully qualifiying events.

ITQ’s favourite part, however, comes near the bottom of the article. Move over, Kory Teneycke -this is how you direct communications with the media:

After the interview was over, Trost accused the StarPhoenix reporter of “ambushing” him with questions about the issue and pressed the stop button on her voice recorder.

(Didn’t some other minister/ministerial aide try that trick on a reporter last year? Or is ITQ misremembering?

UPDATE: She was – mistaken, that is.  Thanks to Commenter Phil, ITQ can report that it was, in fact, Ottawa’s not-currently-the-mayor Larry O’Brien, as reported here by CBC:

One minute later, the mayor abruptly got up and tried to turn off the CBC tape recorder.

“Stop it and turn it off,” O’Brien said. “How do I erase everything I’ve said so far?”

After being unable to erase the interview, he ordered CBC Radio’s Alistair Steele to leave the room.

In the end, O’Brien continued the interview with just the reporter from the Ottawa Sun.

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  • http://intensedebate.com/people/SeanStok SeanStok

    Boy, he's sure got a lot to say for a guy who feels like he's being ambushed. What ever happened to "no comment," or "I'll have to get back to you on that…"?

    You journalists better enrol in electronic device self-defence classes! Finger holds and that sort of thing might come in handy, I reckon…

    • Mike T.

      They should label their ON buttons as OFF buttons, so Ministers would actually be turning on their recorders! and it would be all like "Well, he must have wanted this to be on record, HE turned my thingy on himself!"

      • http://intensedebate.com/people/SeanStok SeanStok

        If I'm ever interviewing Mr.Trost, I'll just tuck the recorder in my pants. Ought to be safe there.

        • http://intensedebate.com/people/jolyon jolyon

          I don't know about that. It seems to me that many of the people who are so focused on the morals of others often have 'issues' of their own. Mr Trost might just be interested in knowing if you are happy to see him or not.

          • http://intensedebate.com/people/SeanStok SeanStok

            LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/Harbles Harbles

    Brad meet Bruno.
    [youtube wU8nhHYlQ-I http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wU8nhHYlQ-I youtube]

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/Jack_Mitchell Jack Mitchell

    Sorry Brad, no starbursts.

    • Dot

      Speaking of bursting stars, I think I've found your old friends – (tieGuy etc)

      • http://intensedebate.com/people/Jack_Mitchell Jack Mitchell

        At Harry Rosen?

  • Phil

    Didn't Larry O'Brien pull a similar stunt on a CBC reporter when asked questions about his son's comments on a blog? And I think he was also looking for a way to erase the interview. My mayor….I think I'll keep him.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/madeyoulook madeyoulook

    And all of this garbage goes away if people who want to hold festivals and parades just bloody well hold the festivals and parades, on their own bloody dime. Ottawa is not a friggin' municipal government.

    Maybe this weekend I will spend some time working my way back through recent ITQ & BTC posts, to get a sample of how many of these national-affairs postings actually deal with a NATIONAL affair.

    • Stewart

      What madehgook meant to say was

      In response to the friggin reporting scandal, Madhgook, Conservative watchdog for all of us, now responsible for Maclean Blog content, is conducting a review of the ITQ Posts to ensure the postings are “providing appropriate information to the population.”

      “Hardworking Canadians expect their blogs will be used for suitable purposes,”

      • http://www.intensedebate.com/people/madeyoulook madeyoulook

        Uh Stew, if this crap is what is getting reported as coming out of Ottawa, it's because this IS the crap coming out of Ottawa. The above survey would be an indictment of federal politics, not of the reporting on it.

        Although you may certainly infer that the overwhelming up-trumping of this silly thing might reflect poorly on the fourth estate charged with monitoring the government of a country in the midst of a recession and currently sending our soldiers in harm's way.

        But thanks for pointing out I am "now responsible for Maclean (sic) Blog content." Can I see the pay & benefits package for that?

        • http://intensedebate.com/people/MoneyCityManiac MoneyCityManiac

          Politicians like Brad Trost are treating gays and lesbians as second class citizens by saying their communities aren't worthy of funding for cultural and tourism events.

          If this wasn't a gay parade but, say, a Chinese New Year parade, you can bet that if Brad Trost would not have made such bigoted comments to LifeSiteNews.

          Although I disagree with you, I can accept your argument that the Federal government shouldn't be funding cultural events, period. But that's not what Trost is upset about, and that's not why this is still making news.

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/MoneyCityManiac Johnny

      All of this garbage goes away when politicians stop treating gays and lesbians as second class citizens.

      • http://intensedebate.com/people/madeyoulook madeyoulook

        Wow. Throw public money at a Pride Parade. Have some complain about it, and now gays and lesbians are treated like second-class citizens.

        Are gays denied the right to vote? Are they required to pay higher taxes? Refused Canadian passports? Automatically ineligible for elected office? What about their "citizenship" has them down a notch, according to the chip on your shoulder?

        It is precisely because taxpayer dollars are being thrown at one interest group after another that opponents of a particular interest group will feel entitled to make their ugly noises.

        • http://intensedebate.com/people/Be_rad Be_rad

          myl – I don't disagree with your argument that the feds should not be indiscriminately spending money on just anything. I have time for your argument that this kind of activity – not PRIDE per se but parades and activist events generally – ought not to be funded by the feds unless they are capable of establishing criteria that make such funding based on principles we can debate.

          However, in your agitation over the one issue, I think you forget that many of the equalities enjoyed by the gay and lesbian community today came as a result of just this kind of activity. I think your complaints, as I read them anyway, are about the probity involved in funding a range of activities, not necessarily these particular recipients.

          However, how others have complained that it was actually gays and lesbians who received it is their real beef, not that you complain about rampant bad spending generally.

          • http://intensedebate.com/people/madeyoulook madeyoulook

            To you and to Johnny below: As a voting citizen I most certainly do not need a public display of homosexual "lifestyle" to convince me that the government does not belong in the bedrooms of the nation. Equal rights for all gets my vote, and you can keep your sexuality away from my eyes — get a room!

            And I will repeat my point that no one wants to deal with. It is precisely BECAUSE federal funds are getting thrown at this that the toxic loudmouths can claim a podium, and be heard on this. "Billy & Bob live together and do ungodly things with each other." No attention paid to that. "Look what these disgusting people are doing with everybody's tax dollars!" That venom gets attention. Take away the tax dollars, from this and every other silly little thing that can't possibly relate to federal jurisdiction, and the bigoted creeps disappear from the limelight.

          • http://www.intensedebate.com/people/madeyoulook madeyoulook

            To you and to Johnny below: As a voting citizen I most certainly do not need a public display of homosexual "lifestyle" to convince me that the government does not belong in the bedrooms of the nation. Equal rights for all gets my vote, and you can keep your sexuality away from my eyes — get a room!

            And I will repeat my point that no one wants to deal with. It is precisely BECAUSE federal funds are getting thrown at this that the toxic loudmouths can claim a podium, and be heard on this. "Billy & Bob live together and do ungodly things with each other." No attention paid to that. "Look what these disgusting people are doing with everybody's tax dollars!" That venom gets attention. Take away the tax dollars, from this and every other silly little thing that can't possibly relate to federal jurisdiction, and the bigoted creeps disappear from the limelight.

  • CanadianInDC

    Btw, a friend of mine from Michigan, when I first met him, told me about how he and other members of the GLBT community in his community traveled to Toronto to participate in the PRIDE festival. I'm just saying — it does attract tourists.

  • an online reader

    " Conservative watchdog for all of us, "

    If Diane Ablonczy is M.I.A. where is Iggy ? They both are hiding in the same closet ?

    " Parliamentary budget officer Demanding answers to hard questions "

    Iggy : Stand up and be a (opposition) Leader . Your Health critic is very passionate on medical issues but should be called on her stand at the Libary committee meeting . The PBO compliments the Auditor General . One looks at projections / promises from our (?)Representitives while the other audits acutal outcomes . Sad day when M.P.s need watchdogs but they do. More shame on harper when he chooses Italian soil to poke a steck at PBO & Iggy speaches .

  • http://skinnydips.blogspot.com Skinny Dipper

    I think Canadians should havve a Pride parade in Brad Trost's riding of Saskatoon-Humboldt. I don't think the parade should take place in the northeastern quadrant of Saskatoon. Instead, there should be raining men in skimmy speedos and leaping lesbians in downtown Humboldt.

    http://www.youtube.com/user/skinnydipper08#play/u…

  • http://skinnydips.blogspot.com Skinny Dipper

    Thumbs up for Humboldt Pride!

  • http://skinnydips.blogspot.com Skinny Dipper

    [youtube gN3QpAXnuD0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gN3QpAXnuD0 youtube]

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/Gaunilon Gaunilon

    If O'Malley used any more scare quotes in this article, it would make more sense upside down. We get it O'Malley: you think Trost is a disseminating bigot. Could be true, could be false – there's no way to know without some objective reporting.

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/MoneyCityManiac Johnny

      Brad Trost IS a bigot. You have him on record saying Toronto Pride shouldn't be funded because it's gay and full of half naked hairy guys in leather and drag queens (note: beautiful half naked models in bikinis are totally Christian). Even when confronted about his statements, Trost hasn't even tried to spin it to make it seem less hateful. What more do you expect to "objectively report"?

      Sure he's not as awful a bigot as, say, Tom Lukiwski (still waiting for you to show up to Regina's Pride Parade there, Tom), but he's still a bigot for complaining about funding a large tourism event because it features guys kissing guys (girls kissing girls is Christian, so long as they're attractive).

      (If you want to argue, like madeyoulook, that it's a waste of tax payer dollars, then fill your boots. But that's not the reason Trost is upset or why this story has gotten legs.)

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/KadyITQ KadyITQ

      I use quotes to indicate when I'm, well, quoting from another article, which is standard journalistic practice. Don't be frightened!

      • http://intensedebate.com/people/Gaunilon Gaunilon

        Of course, and rightly so. And to your credit you quoted two passages that showed his comments in context.
        I am referring, however, to this sort of thing:

        Spoken like a true “fiscal conservative”… … Note how, in Vellacott’s version of the story, the review is to ensure that the stimulus will be “appropriate” and “suitable”, and not “genuine”

        The four sets of quotes there are not just for attribution, but for mockery. Scare quotes.

      • http://www.intensedebate.com/people/Gaunilon Gaunilon

        Of course, and rightly so. And to your credit you quoted two passages that showed his comments in context.
        I am referring, however, to this sort of thing:

        Spoken like a true “fiscal conservative”… … Note how, in Vellacott’s version of the story, the review is to ensure that the stimulus will be “appropriate” and “suitable”, and not “genuine”

        The four sets of quotes there are not just for attribution, but for mockery. Scare quotes. Not objective.

        • http://www.intensedebate.com/people/KadyITQ KadyITQ

          Actually, yes, they are there for attribution. Trost describes himself as a "fiscal conservative" in the story — I just didn't post that line, but you can find it in the original story; the quotes around "appropriate" and "suitable" were also from the Vellacott letter, and "genuine" was from the PMO talking points, and was included for comparison with the terms used by Vellacott. Seriously, I don't use scare quotes — it's grammatically — or would that be punctuariliy? — incorrect. I'm not a complete anarchist — I use scare italics.

        • http://intensedebate.com/people/madeyoulook madeyoulook

          So now "free money from the taxpayer is inappropriate for these people" equals "these people aren't worthy citizens." Wow. Equality before the law now means everybody has equal access to the trough, to slurp away at will. Boy do I hope your hyperbole is not shared by a majority of voters. Sadly for the country, I fear that it is.

          • http://intensedebate.com/people/MoneyCityManiac Johnny

            Yes, equality means you don't discriminate access to government programs on the basis of sexual orientation. I would sincerely hope everyone would share that opinion, even if they disagree with the aims of the program itself.

  • Terren

    By the by, Trost is nothing but a lowly backbench MP who does absolutely nothing in the House.

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