UPDATED – ITQ Exclusive: Republican for Ignatieff speaks!

by kadyomalley on Sunday, July 12, 2009 11:17am - 179 Comments

Last week, ITQ sent off an email to the contact address for republicansforignatieff.com, asking if the group’s creator would be willing to take part in a quick Q&A with macleans.ca. This morning, we got a reply. Full text — and ITQ’s comments — after the jump:

Thanks for your e-mail and interest in the site.


I should tell you right off the top that I am not a media savvy individual nor do I crave media attention for myself.  This is not about me it’s about Michael Ignatieff.

Our group is small (but growing) and members live in both the United States and Canada.

The site is what it is:  a modest attempt to show why Republicans want Michael Ignatieff to become Prime Minister of Canada.

We’ve received several thousand unique visitors – more than we imagined.

Speaking for myself, I can tell you:

-  I live in the United States.

-  Everyone, except my Mother, calls me The Colonel.

-  I am deeply invested in foreign affairs.

-  I believe energy security is the single biggest foreign affairs challenge facing America.

-  I first discovered Michael Ignatieff when I picked up a copy of Blood and Belonging in 1994.

-  Although I don’t agree with everything Michael Ignatieff stands for, particularly on social policy, I strongly support him on energy security and the war on terror, the two issues that matter most to me.  I suspect this is the case for most other Republican supporters of Michael Ignatieff.

-  I also admire Ignatieff for his willingness to admit hard truths that many Canadians are unwilling to accept, particularly the strategic importance of the tar sands, the need for coercive interrogation as a tool in the war on terror, and the irrelevance of Canadian foreign policy under the Chretien and Martin administrations.  In challenging the conventional wisdom of his own party, he reminds me a great deal of Tony Blair who took on the trade unions and the peace movement and re-invented the British Labour Party, culminating of course in his courageous support of President Bush in Iraq.

At this point, we have not, as a group, decided on an official spokesperson.

Over time, we hope to inform, educate and recruit more people to join us in backing Michael Ignatieff.

Thanks again for your interest.

The Colonel

Okay, so — any thoughts, commenters?

ITQ will confess to experiencing a momentary pang of doubt upon reading the above missive: Could R4I actually be … legit? Could a small — “but growing” — contingent of unabashed Bush/Cheney and now, it appears, Tony Blair apologists have joined forces to elect a torture-supporting tar sands supporter to the highest office in another land? Would someone with the moniker of “The Colonel” really misrepresent his or her true intentions? A second later, of course, she answered her last question, at least; well, of course they would. It would be a pretty lame piece of political performance art if they couldn’t stay in character for one emailed media response.

Not that we’re saying they necessarily are, in this case — I mean, stranger things have happened, although you have to wonder what The Colonel and friends have to say about Ignatieff’s subsequent  sorta mea culpaish essay on Iraq, which appeared in the New York Times Magazine in 2007, yet doesn’t seem to have made it to the R4I site.

As for his fervent support for the tar sands — well, notice the repeated use of that particular term, which, as the Tyee noted while covering an Ignatieff event earlier this year, is one that the Liberal leader seems to deliberately avoid, since it is almost exclusively employed by opponents of the project:

“It is awe-inspiring,” he said, adding that the controversial project boasts enough oil to last the rest of this century.

“We’ve got oil reserves there that are just staggering in size. It changes everything about our economic future. It changes everything about Canada’s importance in the world.”

Ignatieff’s comments came in response to a question from a woman in the audience, who used the term “tarsands” – a description used by opponents of the project.

“This is where a chill falls over the room because everybody expects me to say they’re terrible and shut them down,” said Ignatieff. “Absolutely not.”

Using the term “oilsands” – the description preferred by the industry – Ignatieff said the oil will allow Canada to stand up to incoming U.S. president Barack Obama.

“But the challenge is it’s dirty and we’ve got to clean it up,” he added.

The reference to Tony Blair having taken on “the trade unions and the peace movement” is also revealing, and would tend to suggest that, whatever the leanings of the writer, the intended audience is almost certainly that segment of the voting population that straddles the red-orange divide. Or, as Commenter Dakota would put it, the “Lib-Lefties”, although ITQ wouldn’t necessarily capitalize either L.

The one-off shot at the “irrelevance of Canadian foreign policy under the Chretien and Martin administrations” may also be telling, because even amongst left-leaning big-L Liberals, there are few who would lump the two together in that context; over on the other side of the aforementioned divide, however, there is a tendency to wave away such distinctions. (“Liberal, Tory, same old story”, anyone?)

Anyway, despite all that, ITQ is still not sure who the most likely suspect is, although honestly, she’s just not buying the Stephen Taylor theory at the moment. It’s just too pat. Her tentative best guess: a third party lobby group — probably, but not necessarily Canadian — and not one formally associated with any of the major political parties, but with moderate to strong NDP leanings.  Heck, it could even be those shadowy Sorosian skullduggerists who popped up during the last election, much to the consternation of the Conservatives.

So? What do the rest of you think now?

UPDATE: A card-carrying Shadowy Republican Operative, albeit not one who would describe himself as “for Ignatieff”, points out via email that there is, in fact, another possibility:

I do know a guy who was a Marine Colonel who cares about foreign policy and energy. Allen Weh, the former chair of the New Mexico Republican Party

Fits all your facts :)



Make of that what y’all will. And yes, I am on speaking terms with a Republican — more than one, even.  I do have a life outside this blog, you know.

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  • djb

    Whoever is running the site, it's a hoax.

    The giveaway line is "Although I don’t agree with everything Michael Ignatieff stands for…"

    NOBODY knows what Iggy stands for. Possibly not even Iggy.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/Jack_Mitchell Jack Mitchell

    Re: the update, Allen Weh has a wikipedia entry. He retired at the rank of Colonel from the USMC Air Force Reserve in 1997 (he won a lot of medals!), and may have been a colonel for some time before that, so it makes sense that people would call him The Colonel.

    • catherine

      And Allen Weh is currently raising money in the hope of running for governor in 2010. I would think someone who is "not media savvy" and doesn't want media attention would not have a lot of luck in that race – but who knows? Maybe if he runs on a ticket that he is helping to elect Ignatieff in Canada, he'll sweep New Mexico.

      • Dot

        Furthermore, publishing an unverified allegation could be subject to libel laws.

        I'd advise kady to remove the name in the update, and comments.

        • Anon

          Only if it verifiably damages his reputation, and I can't see how this speculation would.

    • john g

      Somehow I don't think Canada ranks as a priority for anybody from New Mexico except snowbirds.

  • http://liberal-arts-and-minds.blogspot.com/ libartsandminds

    For what it's worth, I agree w/BC'er overall, but would add, this group has spent a serious amount of time, which translates to a serious amount of money, seeking out e-mail addresses to send this junk to.

    Gawd knows, I'm not on their mailing list by choice, so they used resources, human or otherwise to target me. Again, that takes $$$ and who is likely to be throwing that around?

    Too pragmatic?

    Okay… then there is the obvious poll page that looks like every 10%'er piece of garbage that the Con's have put out. 'Vote here'!

    Just throwing it out there.

  • john g

    Normally I'd call BS on the Pavlovian urge that the vast majority of Macleans commentors (and a few of the bloggers) have to blame every political trick on the Conservatives, but after having read this site, that is also my first guess. No way is this legit; the choice of quotes is too revealing. Also the style of using Ignatieff's own words against him, including their original source, matches what the Conservatives usually do.

    e.g. "Someone like me does not exist in America and that seems to me to be terrible." – (The Guardian. February 28, 1991.)

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/Savant Savant

    For those slagging Kady for running with this, let's remember that it's summer, the house isn't sitting, and there isn't a heck of a lot going on. Given that the media has been talking about Harper and 'communion', how he was 100 seconds late to a photo and made a bad quote, methinks the rest of the media are stretching for stories as well.

    Is this the 'Conservatives' answer to GritGirl, perhaps. However I don't think many people are paying attention to politics right now, so I really don't see it as a big deal. Call me when there's an election coming…

  • Cam

    Re-reading the e-mail Kady received makes me think that when this comes out someone is going to be caught in an even bigger lie.

  • Logician

    Kady, how could a sweet (young?) thing like you possibly know about Trixie Belden? Both my sisters used to read those books when they were teenagers – and they're both retired now.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/tpholmes tpholmes

    As a Conservative blogger for a few years, I'm inclined to think this is legitimate.

    I don't think it's the party strategists, since they already have all their attention on the Ignatieff.me campaign in full swing, and have never rolled out a "dual campaign" like this in the past.

    Furthermore, I didn't hear of it at first from "the usual suspects" in the Conservative blogosphere, either, and usually I get stuff like this all the time – either their own things, or promoting campaigns the "strategists" came up with.

    This leaves two other options: a Conservative member/supporter who thought it was a good idea, or a legitimate Republican member/supporter who truly wants Ignatieff to be the Prime Minister for the reasons mentioned.

    No matter which way you cut it, though, I had a good chuckle, and I'm sure the Conservative "backroom" isn't at all unhappy about it.

    It wasn't me – I was an "Officer Cadet" once, but never a "Colonel."

    • Anon

      "As a Conservative blogger for a few years…"

      Well, *that's* compelling.

  • Wayne

    ROFL – I love this one .. I have no idea who is really behind the Colonel as it were .. but! .. what if it's straight up and for real? after all I am unsure as to whether any real torie would even think of the Blair comment as it has no meaning and no real context. Republicans for Iggy unite, man the barricades and throw the tea in the harbour LMAO!

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/M_A_N M_A_N

    Sorry, this is war room.
    From the site…

    "REPUBLICANS FOR IGNATIEFF PRAISES MICHAEL IGNATIEFF FOR DEFENDING GEORGE W. BUSH IN RECENTLY-DISCOVERED AUDIO CLIP".

    Let's see…who has been deep mining the vault lately for tasty sound bites?
    Also…
    "Although the current Canadian Prime Minister is a conservative, he has challenged the United States on the Arctic, he is charting Canada's own course in the Americas, and he has failed to demonstrate a deep emotional connection to America like Michael Ignatieff."

    C'mon, people. This is high comedy. If you think this is serious, you've been reading too many blogs. Go outside, have a walk.

  • barb

    Obviously if this were a legit group of actual Republicans, they would have put some contact information on their website, not to mention registered the domain before July 2. The organizers (i.e. Stephen Taylor) are hoping for a little viral attention and possibly a bit of press if they're lucky.

  • Jim

    What kind of website run by Republicans would feature pictures of Jimmy Carter and FDR instead of, say, Republicans?

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/KadyITQ KadyITQ

      What, George W. Bush and Dick Cheney weren't enough for you?

  • Jim

    Well, whoever runs the web site must have agreed with me, because they have now taken those pictures down.

  • http://www.deborahgyapong.com Deborah Gyapong

    I would not be surprised at all to find out this is Tory Astroturfing. If it is, it's pretty lame.

    But why is there seemingly no interest in investigating whether the whole Communion controversy was Astroturfing on the part of partisans to embarrass the Prime Minister while at the G8 in advance of his meeting with the Pope?

    That also smells of Astroturfing to me, since I know the various grassroots players in the Catholic community and know they were not behind the "outrage" at the Prime Minister over taking Communion in a Catholic Church.

    I have been getting mysterious unsourced emails on this issue as well. Someone has been posting YouTube videos under the name Catholicregister to make it seem like Canada's national Catholic newspaper is behind the outrage. The Register's publisher has asked YouTube to remove the two videos–one in Italian—because it is a trademark infringement.

    Will this be ignored by the MSM?

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/Geiseric Geiseric

    Alexa Stats as of July 18th

    Republicansforignatieff.com users come from these countries:
    100.0% Canada

    Either he never checks his own website or he and his republican buddies must be up here with laptops and fishing poles.

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    Ignatieff has more in common with Obama than with sitting Republicans in the US Senate or Congress. If anything I would line him up with Arlen Spector – a man of political convenience.

  • Rll

    Woops, missed this part. Maybe the journalists can figure something out from this:

    Creation Date: 02-Jul-2009
    Expiration Date: 02-Jul-2010

    Why would someone get the sudden urge to start a website about Ignatieff on July 2nd? Why not do it during the leadership race, or when he was finally crowned leader?

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