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You gotta fight for your right to leak

by Paul Wells on Monday, July 13, 2009 8:15am - 54 Comments

I know you’ll be as surprised as I was — i.e., not in the slightest — to discover it was the Liberals who leaked the latest report from Parliamentary Budget Officer Kevin Page, that being the first report he provided to MPs before releasing it to the general public.

Page has argued since he took up this job, barely a year ago, that he must not release his reports to MPs exclusively because that would make it easier for them to use his work as partisan fodder. Page knew from the outset that any independent and empowered observer of the fiscal picture will, eventually, be seen as antagonistic to any government, at least to the most thin-skinned members of that government. He really didn’t want to speed that process along by volunteering to be MPs’ partisan shill. Since it’s part of his mandate to answer questions put by opposition MPs, it would be all too easy for one to ask him a question and then stand up in the House one Question Period and say, “Mr. Speaker, the government is doing so-and-so — and I have here in my hand a report from the Parliamentary Budget Officer proving it!!!” And the rest of us wouldn’t be able to judge whether the PBO report actually said such a thing.

Now, it’s possible to argue that that’s too bad, and Page can just lump it. It’s also possible to argue that Page’s institution is valuable and new, and he needs support as he defines his role in a way that will benefit public good instead of Parliament Hill jousting and assorted other baloney. But you really need to be the Michael Ignatieff Liberals to argue both sides, at length, for months on end.

Say hello to Caroline Bennett and John McCallum, who sat side by side in — what a coincidence — the convulsed and incoherent government of Paul Martin, and who today argue (Bennett) that Page must be reined in, while arguing (McCallum) that Page must be backed to the hilt. This incoherence has been obvious for months – here’s Steven Chase writing about it at the Globe three months ago — but the Office of the Leader of the Opposition has been quite unable to settle it.

That’s because the current Liberal leader, like the last three, fosters an environment in which the situation described in the Hill Times article is possible:

Mr. McCallum (Markham-Unionville, Ont.), who was in Taiwan last week, said he wasn’t aware of the situation, but David Hurl from his office said Mr. Ignatieff’s (Etobicoke-Lakeshore, Ont.) office took care of the matter because he was away but his office was “certainly sharing it with people that asked for it, the motion itself didn’t say it was embargoed or anything, right? It just said the MPs would get it and two days later it would go up on the PBO website so if a journalist asked us for it, I think we sent it to them.”

The “situation” of which McCallum was unaware was the situation in which Page released a report to finance committee members on Monday, with plans to release it publicly on Wednesday, only to have the Liberals put out a news release on Monday afternoon featuring quotes from McCallum. That’s the situation McCallum was unaware of: what we might call “the McCallum situation.”

The status of the Parliamentary Budget Office simply isn’t one of the most important questions facing the Harper government or the current Parliament. Page can, if he chooses, soldier on in less-than-ideal administrative conditions. He can quit. I’m told he’s considering it. Oh well. The world won’t come to an end either way. But the question of his status isn’t trivial, either. It is easily framed. The Liberals’ incoherence on the question has been obvious, and embarrassing to them, for months. And yet their leader, a fellow by the name of Michael Ignatieff, has done nothing zip zero nada to fix it. So I’m left thinking, not for the first time, that he wouldn’t know how to run a lemonade stand.

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  • http://intensedebate.com/people/KadyITQ KadyITQ

    In fairness, I've yet to find a Liberal or</em a New Democrat who can explain what the heck went on during the in camera committee meeting that resulted in that report. Nobody seems to have a clue how that report happened. (I haven't asked the Bloc, but I suspect they would be similarly baffled.) Which should not, for the record, be read as any sort of defence of OLO's handling of the file, by the way, which – as you point out – has been spectacular in its ineptitude.

  • http://www.intensedebate.com/people/KadyITQ KadyITQ

    In fairness, I've yet to find a Liberal or a New Democrat who can explain what the heck went on during the in camera committee meeting that resulted in that report. Nobody seems to have a clue how that report happened. (I haven't asked the Bloc, but I suspect they would be similarly baffled.) Which should not, for the record, be read as any sort of defence of OLO's handling of the file, by the way, which – as you point out – has been spectacular in its ineptitude.

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/sea_n_mountains sea_n_mountains

      baffled in the 'this does not represent my intentions" kinda way or in the "how did this actually get done, i was napping….what groups is on the Hill plying us with food and drink today?…it better be good!" kinda way?

      If it is the former, could they not simply but forth a motion to write a new/dissenting when the House resumes sitting?

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/SeanStok SeanStok

    "So I’m left thinking, not for the first time, that he wouldn’t know how to run a lemonade stand."

    Ouch.

    I don't know if such a book exists, but it would be interesting to read a history of Candian PMs that focussed on their relative abilities to manage their own staff/MPs/etc. I've often felt we don't – as voters – consider the ability of a particular leader to run a cohesive and productive organization (and/or surround themselves with good people to make that happen.)

    Ignatieff has the ability to give a good speech. And he seems to have a knack for the handshaking/babykissing end of things. But I have to say that a background in academics probably doesn't always prepare one for management all that well (there are exceptions, but public humanities academics simply haven't had to learn the grind of managing large numbers of people).

    Anyway, such a focussed history could be a useful lens for the public and future potential leaders.

    • PolJunkie

      "Ignatieff has the ability to give a good speech."

      I beg to differ on that. If by that you mean that he can speak better english than Dion, sure. Other than that, most of his speeches have no substance, plain and simple. That would be the difference between Dion and Iggy as far as I am concerned. One is all talk and no substance while the other is all substance but can't "talk."

      • http://intensedebate.com/people/SeanStok SeanStok

        He can do more than speak coherently – he does have a reasonably compelling presence when he speaks – but the content is a different kettle of fish, I agree.

        • PolJunkie

          So he has a presence. That is true but what good is that presence if there is no substantive policy development know-how to back it up?

          The only advantage that Iggy has over Harper, as far as I am concerned, lies in the team that he is surrounded with. There is no question that his Cabinet would run circles around that of Harper. What gets me is that they ditched Dion, claiming that he was incompetent only to replace him with one that has no where near the experience and substance that Dion did. At least if they'd picked Rae; a seasoned politician with sound experience in managing a government.

          My assistant has more govt experience than Iggy!

          • http://intensedebate.com/people/Thwim Thwim

            Unfortunately, substance does not seem to be the foremost concern of those who go to the polls.

          • http://intensedebate.com/people/M_A_N M_A_N

            So, if it's okay to use "Iggy" all the time, can I start referring to Prime Minister Stephen Harper as "Harpy"?

            I mean, what is this, a hockey game?

            "So, Jonesey was workin' hard to get the puck to Clarkey, but he had to deke out Stanny and Chucky"…

          • PolJunkie

            Ain't that the truth…

      • Harpixon

        Well i guess he can just start plagiarizing his speeches like Harper does.

        What was that speech again… oh that's right, the one the Australian PM used which Harper thought sounded so good he thought he would repeat it word for word to the Canadian public.

  • jarrid

    "And yet their leader, a fellow by the name of Michael Ignatieff, has done nothing zip zero nada to fix it. So I’m left thinking, not for the first time, that he wouldn’t know how to run a lemonade stand."

    And Andrew Potter writing in today's Ottawa Citizen:

    "The Liberals are in big trouble. Ever since Paul Martin's regime collapsed under the weight of its own hubris, the party has looked for leadership from a group of well-meaning incompetents — Dion, Rae, and Ignatieff — not one of whom has the charisma, the political skills, or the staying power to rebuild the Liberal brand as the natural governing party of Canada."

    A couple of pretty harsh indictments this morning.

    After reading Mr. Ignatieff's speech "Liberal Values in Tough Times" which he delivered in London, England at the Isaiah Berlin Lectures last week, I came to the realization that he does not have any idea what he'd want to do as Prime Minister of Canada.

    • Mike T.

      His problem isn't what to do. His big problem is that Stephen Harper is already doing most of it.

      • matt

        Two related thoughts:

        1. Mike is right, and I don't say this as any attempt to attack or praise either of Ignatieff or Harper. In terms of policy, and particularly relative to the U.S., there is a very narrow spectrum within which we debate serious issues of governance. Some might say that's why we don't really debate those issues, and instead focus on internal party sniping and gossip. And there are both good and bad things about that sort of consensus.

        2. The above is magnified by the present economic conditions. The drastic speed with which spending was required to deal with the financial crisis means that pretty much any moderate alternative to government would be put in the shoes Ignatieff is in, namely largely agreeing with Harper on the large issues of the day.

    • Anon

      "After reading Mr. Ignatieff's speech "

      LOL …. Come on, Jarrid. You did no such thing. Nobody in this country has been able to read through any of Iggy's writings before falling asleep, including Iggy.

      • http://intensedebate.com/people/Crit_Reasoning Crit_Reasoning

        I've made it through a few, thanks to liberal doses of strong coffee.

        • tobyornottoby

          Strong doses of LIberal coffee? (they have to sit through more of his speeches than anyone)

    • matt

      I'm not sure the "incompetent" with "no charisma/political skills/staying power" critique applies to Rae. He seems, having considered the footsteps of Dion and Ignatieff, like a missed opportunity in terms of political acument. His handicap was that he had NDP baggage, and because of that baggage couldn't really stake out an appealing policy position. His appeal was as a manager, in other words. In light of a. (politically speaking) poor policy (Dion) and b. any policy!/every policy! (Ignatieff) that can't seem so bad right now.

      • sbt

        When are people going to accept that Rae will never be able to win a federal election as long as Ontario is allowed to vote?

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/OntarioTown OntarioTown

    "So I’m left thinking, not for the first time, that he wouldn’t know how to run a lemonade stand."

    Well, I guess ALL governments couldn't run a lemonade stand – they've ALL had leaks.

    I guess that's why kids have lemonade stands.

    • RayK

      The point is not that there was a leak, but that after months the Liberals are still vocally espousing two contradictory positions on what is really a fairly simple issue.

  • Dot

    You gotta fight for your right to leak

    Western's old JW Little stadium solved this problem. On the student bleacher side, the fottball halftime crowds frequenting the Men's washroom were efficiently processed through equal access to a communal trough.

    Seems like a similar situation, and solution.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/jolyon jolyon

    "That’s the situation McCallum was unaware of: what we might call “the McCallum situation.”

    That's a gem of a sentence, really funny.

    I don't often read The Hill Times but is it regularly in the habit of printing who leaked what to whom? Reporters at other sources act like their anon sources should be treated like state secrets and here's the Hill Times explaining in detail. Odd.

    And we really need something that is equivalent to the American's CBO. CBO provides timely $$$ numbers on numerous bills and legislators take the numbers seriously.

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/madeyoulook madeyoulook

      But was it even a leak? As I read the Times report: we asked the OLO for a copy and they gave it to us.

  • PolJunkie

    "So I’m left thinking, not for the first time, that he wouldn’t know how to run a lemonade stand."

    Join the friggin' club, Wells. I've said it before and I'll say it again: the Libs made a monumental mistake in annointing Iggy as their new leader.

    • http://economics.about.com Mike Moffatt

      I wouldn't disagree, but you have to wonder after one failed leader and one leader that looks like he's failing – maybe the Libs problems go well beyond picking the right guy as the face of the party.

      • PolJunkie

        Agreed but I do think that picking the right leader would go a long way to solve that problem. Going from Dion to Iggy was a huge mistake. More importantly, the way they installed Iggy is going to come back and haunt them when it finally sinks in that this man is not equipped to lead their party, let alone the country.

      • http://intensedebate.com/people/jolyon jolyon

        "maybe the Libs problems go well beyond picking the right guy as the face of the party."

        That's what interests me. I think the two leading Lib MPs, Rae and Ignatieff, could be described as just visiting the Lib party. Then there is Martha Hall Findlay and Gerard Kennedy running for leader before they sat one day in the House as an MP. Libs are in dire straights as far as their team goes but some, partisans I presume, try to make it seem like Lib team is colossal and other parties should be quaking in their boots.

        • PolJunkie

          "Libs are in dire straights as far as their team goes but some, partisans I presume, try to make it seem like Lib team is colossal and other parties should be quaking in their boots."

          You are joking, right? Have you seen who sits at Harper's Cabinet table?

          • sbt

            I think his point is that the Liberal team isn't any better than the Conservative one and not that the Conservative team is amazing. There was a time at the beginning of the Harper government where it could be argued that the Liberal team was much more impressive but that's not really the case anymore. If the Liberal team is as good as advertized why did the leadership come down to Ignatieff and Rae?

  • Kaplan

    So, was the document "embargoed" in the official sense of the term? Or not?

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/Inkless Inkless

    It wasn't embargoed. As a contravention of the rules of proper Parliamentary play, this leak was trivial. The problem is that this is precisely what Page argued would happened when he was trying to explain why MPs shouldn't get his stuff ahead of the public — that it would be instrumentalized by a faction for partisan gain.

  • Kaplan

    Well, I for one appreciate knowing about that $156 billion budget deficit thingy.

    As for Page being proven right…well. Good for him.

  • Kelvin

    "The Liberals’ incoherence on the question has been obvious, and embarrassing to them, for months."

    Really? You mean we care more about this than, say, communion wafers?

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/Inkless Inkless

      Depends who "we" are, I suppose.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/Gaunilon Gaunilon

    "Michael Ignatieff, has done nothing zip zero nada to fix it. So I’m left thinking, not for the first time, that he wouldn’t know how to run a lemonade stand."

    More likely, he doesn't want to lose the benefit of using Page's reports from time to time, but he also doesn't want to appear satisfied with the status quo. If the dichotomy were to become an issue in the media (it won't) I'm sure he'd take a position tout suite.

    • Brett

      He would take a position tout suite, then do a 180 hours later if the dichtomy changed.

  • Mulletaur

    Ignatieff needs a Pelletier.

  • Harpixion

    Oh believe me, i would rather have Iggy running that stand than Harper any day. At least i know i would be getting real Lemonade and not some BS Packaged crap.

    As for your lemonade comment, well i'll put this way:

    Mr. Ignatieff's lemonade stand would sell real lemonade and would actually sell what it advertised.

    Mr. Harper's lemonade stand would sell the cheap packaged lemonade and would have a sign stating that they are selling ice tea.

    Also he would have about 20 signs posted all over the block saying how bad Ignatieff's lemonade stand was how he is using lemonade from the states while he(Mr. Harper) uses lemons made in Canada. Even though most Canadians know that lemons don't really grow in Canada.

    Ignatieff>Harper

    • Orson Bean

      So, to summarize your post: Iggy Good, Harper Bad.

      You failed to mention, though, that Harper's lemonade would also be laced with rat poison and deliberately intended to kill cute little children.

      I'm not making this up.

      • Wayne

        You forgot that the juice kills baby kittens too!

        • sbt

          Actually, the juice is made from baby kittens.

          • matt

            Baby kittens. In blenders. In our cities.

          • http://intensedebate.com/people/Crit_Reasoning Crit_Reasoning

            Choose your Canada.

    • PolJunkie

      "Mr. Ignatieff's lemonade stand would sell real lemonade and would actually sell what it advertised. "

      Are you kidding? Iggy would set up a lemonade stand and change the flavour every five minutes. Commitment to one issue/flavour isn't his strong suit.

  • Harpixion

    No, not really.
    Harper is bad, don't get me wrong. It's just that personally i find him to be an affront to humanity. He is a fat piece of crap that instead of walking waddles like a penguin. Hey… that's it… Harper is the penguin from Batman! It all fits now…

    - Both came from the underbelly of their respective societies.

    -Both walk the same way.

    -Both have tried to use positions of power to secure there own agendas and to satisfy their own ego's'

    And just to make it clear, the only reason i will be voting for Mr. Ignatief is because he is the only one that can remove the despot we have as PM right now. Perhaps i should have put it this way.

    a brown paper bag > Harper

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/Inkless Inkless

      Calling anyone a "fat piece of crap" is a really excellent way to get banned from this site.

  • commentator

    Without disagreeing with Wells' comment on the Grits' inability to get their act together, my understanding is that the members of the Joint Committee were concerned that if one MP asked the PBO for a report on XYZ, Page adamantly insisted on releasing that report publicly. The MPs believed, reasonably enough, that they should decide on publication or not.
    The issue here is that Page is extraordinarily pigheaded and has carved out his own position that he thinks overrides the act creating the PBO and the wishes of the MPs he is to serve. That's why the Joint Committee reported UNANIMOUSLY, including the NDP.

    • Canuckistanian

      "The MPs believed, reasonably enough, that Kevin Page is their plaything."

      • commentator

        Maybe. But I think they believed he ought to follow the terms of the Act covering his position. Where does it say he gets to decide what is made public and when? And shouldn't MPs be more "important" than a PBO? (Yeah, I know…)

  • Canuckistanian

    he may not be able to run a lemonade stand, but apparently his essays "can MAKE LEMONADE IN YOUR MIND."

    too funny
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-rees/cormac-i…

    • tobyornottoby

      Oh man, that's a fun link. One of my favourite lines: "It was right for me to support the Iraq war when I was an academic, because academics live in outer space on Planet Zinfandel, and play with ideas all day"

  • Tom Johnson

    The report was never embargoed. The media really need to check their facts before running a story like this.

  • Anon

    It doesn't sound like a top-secret document that can move markets i.e. it's not a budget document. So, if it wasn't embargoed, it couldn't have been leaked.

    The "media" you're referring to here is The Hill Times. No disrespect to the people who work (or have worked) there, but it's not exactly the New York Times, is it?

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