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Public workers have it better already. By asking for more, they’ve sparked anger and envy.

by Jason Kirby on Wednesday, July 15, 2009 11:40pm - 90 Comments

Why do Angie and Brad come out so far ahead, while Courtney and Dave must make do with retirement scraps? For one thing, most government pension funds are indexed to inflation, ensuring they aren’t eroded by rising consumer prices. In most public sector pensions, retirement payments are also calculated based on an employee’s peak earning years. But tax rules also give defined benefit plan members a staggering advantage over most other workers. In any given year a worker with a defined contribution plan and RRSPs can only put away a total of 18 per cent of his income. Yet the combined contributions of government workers and their employers can, by the end of a 35-year career, easily equal 30 per cent of an employee’s salary. That means a 55-year-old government worker with three decades under his belt and a $60,000 salary would effectively have contribution room of more than $25,000. The same worker in the private sector would be restricted to an RRSP limit of just over $11,000. “I will never argue that public sector workers shouldn’t have good pensions, but how is it fair that these rules have been structured from the beginning to give an opportunity to one class of worker that isn’t available to another class?” Pierlot asks. “It’s appalling and it’s immoral.”

Union leaders like Brown argue that any suggestion that government workers enjoy better pensions at the expense of taxpayers is unfounded because, he says, they pay dearly for their pensions. Put another way, Angie and Brad, for instance, may have to live on less while they’re working because they’re forced to save more. But even so, the standard of living that public sector employees now enjoy in retirement is absolutely lavish compared to other workers, and it’s getting more and more so. The median retirement age for public sector workers, for instance, has fallen steadily since the late 1980s to 58. Not so with private sector workers, who typically tough it out to at least 62. With the obliteration of private retirement savings over the last year, experts say it’s likely many workers will have to toil into their 70s—long after most public sector workers the same age will have settled into their cottages.

This problem will continue to grow, Pierlot says, unless government radically reforms the retirement system. He says the 18 per cent contribution limit should be scrapped, in favour of a lifetime tax-deferred savings limit of, say, $1.5 million, a move that Britain made in 2006. The rules that require pension plans to be sponsored by employers should also be tossed out, so workers can pool their retirement savings in large target benefit plans set up by trade associations, or financial institutions. For many workers it’s already too late, but the changes would help ensure pension inequality doesn’t become entrenched for generations to come.

As for the thorny issue of pay and perks like sick-day banks, Mazerolle says governments and Crown corporations have botched negotiations by springing their concession demands at the last minute. With numerous public sector contracts set to expire over the next couple of years, managers need to make it clear now that many of the perks that unions have cherished for 50 years have become anachronistic. “The way to do this is to put everybody on notice now and say, ‘Look, things have changed,’ ” he says.

Of course, the ideal solution for most workers would be to raise private sector benefits to public sector levels, rather than reduce everyone to the lowest common denominator. Unfortunately, with the economy the way it is, that seems unlikely. The solution may lie in a happy medium instead—but one thing is clear: hiking taxes on already beleaguered private sector workers to pay for increasingly deluxe benefits for the public sector is not an option. With public tempers rising faster than the piles of garbage in Toronto and Windsor, it’s a message that the public sector and their government employers can no longer ignore.

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  • Dieter

    The sick bank has left a $250-million unfunded liability on the city’s books,

    This continues to be Miller's fault. He must have know how much his labor costs were before deciding to build bicycle paths which likely won't be used, purchase streetcars from Thunderbay, and a host of other expenses. it seems to me, he's been empire building without knowing where he was going to find the cash.

  • Dieter

    One tactic often used by union leaders to justify their demands is to highlight the outlandish pay packages of corporate executives in the private sector.

    This is a favorite trick by Jimmy boy Stanford, the CAW's hired economist.

  • Dieter

    Put another way, Angie and Brad, for instance, may have to live on less while they’re working because they’re forced to save more.

    This is pure weapons grade ballonium. Ontario Power Workers are living high off the hog, with plenty of money for toys, recreational devices and expensive vacations. They've got it all.

  • Wayne

    How the public sector caught up to the private is rediculous. Because of the security that comes with a government job, it's reasonable to expect that the pay be slightly lower. Add to that the fact that they are using tax payers money to pay them. A private company can do whatever they like, it only hurts ther business if they are not efficient. An innefficient government hurts all of us.

    Having said that, I do agree that Paramedics should be paid the same as other emergency workers. What logic is there to argue why they aren't?

    As for people who say garbage collectors are overpaid should ask themselves how much money would that job have to pay for them to quit their jobs and become garbage collectors. For most people I suspect it would be a lot more than what the people are getting now. That being the case, I consider them a bargain. I've never done it, but I would suspect that they go home sore and exhausted every day.

    There are likely many people in the public sector that are overpaid, but I would argue that those are two groups that aren't.

    • Joe

      Garbagemen in the public sector is being overpaid, that's obvious because private sector is willing to do the same job for a lot less cost to the taxpayers.

      As for people's willingness to become garbagemen, that depends a lot on their eduction level. If you flunked out of highschool and your option is limited, then garbagemen is a darn good job with a darn good pay; If you studied hard and went to college, chances are you've set your expectations higher at least in the long run of your career path and rightfully so.

  • http://www.intensedebate.com/people/GHMC GHMC

    There is clearly a bias and an ignorance shown in some of the commentaries posted towards civil servants. I believe one must walk a mile in another's shoes to totally understand the conditions in which we work. Not all civil servants are created equal. The same can be said about private sector employees. There are good and bad employees in both. I am a retired civil servant and very fortunate to have benefited from a good pension. I agree that private sector employees do not enjoy the same level of job security or benefits. In fact some private sector companies are quietly making demands of employees that would make public sector employees cringe. I do not support this strike. Many unions are making concessions in order to retain jobs. It is ludicrous to be demanding the payout of unused sick days at this time. Most public and private employees do not enjoy this benefit . Has this union lost their mind? This is the worst economic downturn since the great depression. Do they have any idea how many people have lost their jobs, benefits and savings? I believe Mayor Miller should privatize garbage pick up for City of Toronto.

  • Tguy

    1. This article is totally correct when it mentions the PR tactics of our public sector unions. Toronto's striking unions, in particular, keep going back to the executive pay argument and CEO pay whenever someone asks why are they entitled to such absurd benefits and pay packages, as if it's fair to compare the work of CEO's to Garbagemen. Yes, CEO pay is absurd. No disagreement there. That is not justification for that "Ontario Sunshine list" of 100k plus employees to have exploded to now include people like ttc wage collectors and other assorted unionized personnel.

    2. This will eventually be self corrected. This situation is simply untenable, and although only a few people are paying attention now, our public sector unions have to be dreaming if they truly believe that 80% of private sector employees (VOTERS!) are going to happily work into their 70's trying to squirrel away money so they don't have to live on dogfood, AND be willing to pay increased taxes to support the inflation index defined benefit pension plans of their retired "civil servants".

  • Joe

    I have known numerous city workers and you guys admit yourself you are working at a country club. I am appalled at what you guys find acceptable. Drinking starts in the trucks on Thurs and Fri. afternoons. The guys working in the parks, only work for a few hours a day. It is all about cheating the system. Sure 50% of you have a strong work ethic, but we could lay off the other 50% and not notice a difference.

  • Joan Watkins

    Great Article. Thank you. Government Union contracts need to be the #1 issue in the next elections at all levels of government.

    The public is woefully unaware of the richness of the public sector contracts, and the unions have no idea how good they have it.

    There are 2 important facts missing from the article.

    1. Any deficits in the pension funds are 100% the responsibility of the Taxpayer. The employee has absolutely no financial obligations. These plans are beginning to show chronic deficits. In the last provincial budget there is over $10 billion in deficits to be topped up over 4 years. The figure is likely more in the neighborhood of $25 billion as the budget shows only 4 years worth and the legislation provides for 10 years to top up deficits.

    2. Wage increases are in addition to COLA (cost of living).

    I'd love to know what the projected legacy costs are to the taxpayer.

  • http://www.intensedebate.com/people/joannie1 joannie1

    The union advertising has asked their members to contact their councillors and demand that they settle the strike for a fair wage now.

    I suggest that anyone who does not want to see the union walk away with wage/benefit increases email their councillor and express their views.

    • Ryan

      No way, "fair wage" to the union means ridiculous increases and keeping of 18 sick days. The union will starve unless they cave in and bow down to the taxpayer, the ones whom these unions are truly beholden to even though they would never like to admit it.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/haters haters

    What vitriol, ignorance and hate. The idea that every one else pays a civil servant's salary is ludicrous.

    We are all taxpayers, including the civil servants. If the city knew that they wanted make changes to the contracts that expired in December of 2008, they could have done it ages ago. Why let workers work in good faith and then suddenly decide to change every thing.

    The recession did not start in June 2009 it began in 2008 and was even more emphasised by the market crash in September 2008 – 9 months before the workers went on strike. As recently as 2009 metro housing workers received a reasonable contract. It is clear to see what has really happened here. Miller and company wanted to shaft the workers in these two locals and are using the tough economic times that existed nine months as the excuse to do so.

    Shame on him for using these workers as the scapegoats for his mismanagement and hokus pokus economics. Shame on you ignoramuses for focusing on hate and not seeing the real picture.

  • Ryan

    Err, "November" that should be.

  • http://www.gold-cash.com John Proman

    They should do something about this. I believe that they must encourage public workers too.

  • http://howtosellgoldforcash.com How To Sell Gold

    I understand where the unions are coming from but blocking access to public facilities is going over the line. They are "public" for a reason. Just because they are on strike doesn't mean I shouldn't be able to access a dump site. I mean You have no other options because you get fined if you dump anywhere else.

  • Ryan

    "Envy?" What a horrible word to use. That's like suggesting everyone wishes they could join a public sector union so they could be lazy leeches of the taxpayer. We're not "envious" of their pay; we simply believe we have a right to control how our taxes are spent, and clearly spending on the perks of these unions here is absolutely outrageous!

    It's not envy, it's keeping these guys in line. They've strayed way too far from what's acceptable.

    Envy suggests we wish we could all have their perks. Possibly, but we don't "envy" the fact they're doing it on OUR dimes. The word "envy" simply doesn't make sense in this argument for any sane individual.

  • Ryan

    Having 18 bankable sick days also encourages employees to show up to work while sick. The whole point of sick days is so that A) you can rest up and B) you don't infect everyone else.

    Sick days are not vacation days. While obviously some do use sick days as a vacation day, having EIGHTEEN per year is a ridiculous entitlement, and as taxpayers who are paying for you to sit on your ass, we are far more entitled to deny you that privilege.

    Leave it to union workers to officially consider sick days as vacation days, I mean, who else would have thought of that and actually wrote it into their contract? No more.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/Jack_Mitchell Jack Mitchell

    Yeah, exactly. All the people working junky minimum-wage jobs — you know, the kind you run into every day but don't notice they exist — are city taxpayers too, through their rent. They are among those whose taxes are propping up the $30/hour wage of city garbagemen (which is not even an issue in this strike, it's the 20 days of bankable, cumulative, indexed sick leave that a mimimum-wage worker could not even begin to dream of). Public sector unions are literally oppressing the proletariat, and to deply the righteous tone of yesteryear to defend them is quite simply sick.

  • uncool

    For once Jack, I couldn't agree more. Kudos.
    (i'd +1 the comment, but i'm not doing the intense debate account thing)

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