Demanding times

Public workers have it better already. By asking for more, they’ve sparked anger and envy.

by Jason Kirby on Wednesday, July 15, 2009 11:40pm - 90 Comments

Demanding timesThe three-week-old strike by municipal workers in Toronto has spawned mountains of stinking garbage, left public swimming pools empty and wreaked havoc for working parents who rely on city-run daycares. But the strike has also brought with it something else: the sudden realization that not all jobs in Canada are created equal.

In what many would call the real world, an economic earthquake has shattered lives, erased nearly 400,000 jobs, and obliterated a lifetime of retirement savings, hopes and dreams. Yet despite that, public sector workers with iron-clad pensions and rock-solid job security have opted to wage a battle for pay hikes and the type of arcane perks that were almost unheard of in the private sector, even when times were good. “Everyone who works within a large apparatus like the government believes the whole world works that way, when in fact it doesn’t,” says Ted Mallett, chief economist with the Canadian Federation of Independent Business (CFIB). “There’s a distinct lack of appreciation for what’s changed outside in the real world.”

Unions dismiss such comments as the rantings of right-wing lobbyists hell-bent on dismantling organized labour. Despite the public outcry over the strikes and polls which show that many citizens deeply oppose them, union leaders insist the outrage is largely manufactured. “Public jealousy is being whipped up,” says Larry Brown, secretary-treasurer of the National Union of Public and General Employees (NUPGE). “The idea that there’s a mollycoddled public sector workforce is just not genuine.” Yet any sober analysis of the numbers shows most government workers do enjoy a distinct advantage over their private sector counterparts. Government workers enjoy enviable pay, more luxurious benefits and in almost all cases, astonishingly better pensions.

A string of labour battles in recent months has plastered this growing inequality all over the headlines. The strike by 24,000 city workers in Toronto has brought Hogtown to a standstill. Members of the Canadian Union of Public Employees (CUPE) are seeking a wage increase in the range of three per cent a year, in line with what transit employees and police received last year through arbitration. But public fury has centred mostly on the workers’ sick-day bank. As it stands now, many city workers can sock away their unused paid sick days, up to 18 a year, and cash out up to six months’ worth when they retire. The sick bank has left a $250-million unfunded liability on the city’s books, which is why other regions around Toronto have done away with them. But CUPE is adamant the sick-day bank remain untouched. “The city is putting the knife to us,” Ann Dembinski, president of CUPE Local 79, said recently.

Meanwhile in Windsor, a bitter strike by city workers is already into its third month. Workers voted to strike over the city’s attempts to curb post-retirement benefits for future workers, such as medical benefits. Paul Moist, the national president of CUPE, which represents striking workers in both cities, says the disputes happened because employers tried to take away well-established benefits. “I think the recession is being used as ground cover because workers are vulnerable,” he says.

The list goes on. In Ottawa this past winter, bus drivers rejected a seven per cent pay raise over three years and shut down the capital’s transit system for seven weeks after the city tried to curtail their right to set their own schedules. In Calgary and Edmonton, municipal workers landed contracts in May that offered pay raises of between 3.5 to 4.5 per cent this year and next. And in B.C., striking paramedics, who say other emergency workers earn more than they do, are seeking an amazing seven per cent raise each year for the next three years.

To say all this has left regular workers feeling bitter puts it mildly. “The whole public sector is going to get tarnished” by the strike in Toronto, says Maurice Mazerolle, a labour studies professor at Ryerson University. “There are outrageous things in some public sector contracts and people are wondering, ‘What is this about? Why do you get this?’ ”

Much of what’s driving government sector unions is the deeply ingrained belief that everyone else is way better off. It’s not uncommon to hear the claim that government workers lag the private sector by 10 or even 20 per cent. “The private sector has been demonstrably ahead of the public sector,” says Moist. For instance, he says, the government has had a terrible time hiring people in the trades because workers could make so much more elsewhere. Never mind the fact that at the time, Canada was in the middle of a phenomenal commodity and housing boom, which has since been followed by an equally spectacular bust that’s hitting private sector construction workers particularly hard.

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  • http://www.intensedebate.com/people/Gaunilon Gaunilon

    This article misses the point. Although it's true that the unions are striking over ridiculous demands, they have the legal right to do so, and the rest of us have the legal right to make do without them (e.g. by doing the work ourselves).

    What has people really angry is that strikers are blocking/delaying those dumping trash at designated sites. Citizens who dump outside these sites are fined, but no action is taken against those who illegally bar people from accessing public facilities. They're public. They belong to all of us. Strikers have no more right to block access to a dump site than the Tamils had to block access to the Gardiner Expressway…yet the police do nothing. One law for unions, another law for everyone else.

    What are the cowardly police chief and mayor going to say when someone finally gets fed up waiting at a dump site while union members illegally enforce a 15 minute delay per car, and attempts a citizen's arrest? What are they going to say when he gets beaten to a pulp for standing up for his rights? Will they enforce the law then?

    This is what should be done:
    (1) The mayor and the police should be fired immediately and replaced with citizens willing to restore the rule of law.
    (2) The strikers who have impeded others by force should be prosecuted for assault.
    (3) Union leaders complicit in the illegal activity should be prosecuted for organized crime.

    The remaining strikers are welcome to remain on strike until an agreement is reached, but the longer we go without their services, the more likely it is that we'll discover we don't need them.

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/Be_rad Be_rad

      Well said

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/TheRealKuri TheRealKuri

      "the rest of us have the legal right to make do without them"

      Also, private sector workers have the right to unionize as well. To whatever extent there is a public sector advantage, this isn't something that private sector workers cannot bring about.

      • joe

        Oh that's right, just like those GM workers!… wait a sec…

    • ProfR

      It is the rest of us who should be envious. The strongest period of union activity was during the depression when theoretically the workers should have been counting their jobs as blessings.

      Generally, workers in the private sector have been passive in the extreme; 3% per year is not unjustified, and neither is accruing sick leave. Don't executives from major firms get stock options? No one questions that!

      Take it to the limit Strikers!

      • Joe

        Sure, go back to school, get a degree, grind the experience, chop thru the office politics, and we'll get you the stock options too. Until then, go stock garbages and do your job!

    • Bette

      Way to go. I am with you on this one.

    • Chris

      Gaunilon wrote "This article misses the point. Although it's true that the unions are striking over ridiculous demands, they have the legal right to do so, and the rest of us have the legal right to make do without them (e.g. by doing the work ourselves)."

      Really? Do we have the right to do the work ourselves?
      Do we have the right to make do without them?

      Apparently not! We have to pay them for not doing their jobs, for banking ridiculous sicks days, and for being over paid. We do NOT have any rights – or I wouldn't pay them a penny.

      Some unions need to be legislated out of existence.

  • Ryan

    As for a comment on the issue at hand:

    “The city is putting the knife to us.”

    You're damn right the city is putting the knife to you. If it were up to me, you'd already have been done in by it. By now, Toronto would be functioning properly again with privatized contractors and without the silly, ridiculous, over-the-top entitlement mentality of public sector union workers that is attempting to strangle the Toronto taxpayer into submission.

    Cut the damn leeches off already and Miller too while we're at it!

    [note I don't wish any real harm to these individuals; it is only metaphorical, except for the loss of their jobs... scab workers I would give elevated status to and try to keep their employment somehow]

    • Anon

      I moved from the private sector to the public and I completely admit that it is extrodinary what we recieve.

      My pay increased by about 15% moving to the private sector, my hours of work went down, my vacation went up, and my pension will be incredible. And I walk around shaking my head listening to co-workers who complain that they have it rough. Rough is working 7 days a week 16 hours a day to finish a project. Rough is a flurry of last minute changes which means your vacation is cancelled. Rough is a $50 dollar per month raise every three to five years.

      It is absolutely obsence.

    • http://bit.ly/endstrikenow endstrikenow

      Ryan, are you running next year to change any of this around?

      • Ryan

        I have honestly always thought about running for office some day but considering my education background only goes to college, I doubt I would be either qualified or even viewed as qualified. Don't worry though, there will be other candidates with similar views to my own which Torontonians will have the opportunity to vote in next Novermber.

        • http://bit.ly/endstrikenow endstrikenow

          don't let your level of education hold you back. Our current mayor – and many on council – have great education and look where that has gotten us (that goes for provincial too).

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/TheRealKuri TheRealKuri

    "the type of arcane perks that were almost unheard of in the private sector"

    Name a few.

    • Ryan

      Uh, how about those them there 18 sick days?

      • http://intensedebate.com/people/TheRealKuri TheRealKuri

        Sick days are "arcane"? I'm glad I don't work in your office because apparently sick people come into work and infect everyone else there.

        • Geography girl

          Sick days that are banked and then paid out are not available to those of us who actually work for a living. We are entiteld to sick days, yes – and if you use too many you need to provide a note from a doctor. Allowing people to be paid out sick days is treating those days as vacation days, which I do not think you deserve. I am in a private sector job where if I do not take my vacation days they are not paid out or banked for the next year. Use it or lose it is the norm. Now get off your lazy ass and pick up my garbage.

          • http://demosthenes.blogspot.com Demosthenes

            Are you seriously going to try to argue that a garbageman and a pool lifeguard don’t “work for a living”?

          • Joe

            I'm seriously going to argue that public sector workers, such as garbagemen are being overpaid for their work.

          • http://intensedebate.com/people/Thwim Thwim

            How much would it take for you to do their work?

          • http://intensedebate.com/people/Thwim Thwim

            The plural of "anecdote" is not data, because I have anecdotes from the high tech industry where that kind of perk is provided in order to attract top talent.

            So perhaps the problem isn't that it's not available to those of you who actually work for a living, it's just not available for those who don't have the smarts to get into the right industries and/or demand that kind of thing as a condition of their employment.

  • Mike T.

    No matter who else does or does not get 3% annually, it's not that far off inflation and in some years it don't match it. Ask yourself who wins when macleans and other media stir up resentment against people who are just about treading water.

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/c_9 c_9

      But this article shows that public sector union members are not "just about treading water". Public sector union members have had their pay increase (in one example listed) about 15% over a time span where private sector pay increased only 7%.

      Fair pay is good, but the implicit idea in that statement is that fair exists on a scale from unfair(low) to unfair(high).

  • Ryan

    "With public tempers rising faster than the piles of garbage in Toronto and Windsor, it’s a message that the public sector and their government employers can no longer ignore."

    Agreed wholeheartedly.

  • Mike T.

    Actually, you aren't entitled as a taxpayer to set the rates of public employees. it's done through a process called collective bargaining. There's actually been very little in the news about how the sick day arrangement of the other units was arrived at, which is interesting. Depending on what the unions had to give up to get this arrangement when it was put in place, and the benefits of having incentives to not take sick days, it could be an overall sweet deal for management. I find the immediate antipathy of the public, rather than a desire to try to get the big picture, very informative in a "media awareness" kind of way.

  • Mike T.

    Can anyone point out C-9 his error in interpreting the meaning ot 'treading water' as used above?

    Class?

  • Ryan

    Well we certainly should be entitled to set the rates. Heck how about we eliminate most public sector jobs so we don't even have to squabble about this? I'm all for that.

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/Thwim Thwim

      And I'm not. So there we go.

  • Scout

    I'm not necessarily defending the current sick day plan, but I think it has been blown out of proportion as a luxury. You have to work 10 years for the city to even qualify to "bank" sick days, and from there on, you can only bank 50% of your unused days. Temporary and part-time city workers don't get any sick days at all. What's more, a lot of these workers use up their sick days. Child care workers and waste workers tend to be exposed to a lot of injury and illness.

    • free at last?

      I'll gladly suffer through this inconvenience of their selfish action to avoid having our city perpetually in deficit.
      Stand Firm, Our brave City Councillors.

      • S Vander

        Are you kidding me although I think the union is out of control. Miller and the rest of his idiotic executive council negotiated the same deal with 4 other unions in the past couple of years. The last negotiated settlement was several months ago. This CUPE local is asking for exactly the same thing that the other unions got. Miller and his stupid councillors have been in bed in with the unions for years. They created this and they OWN IT. Toss them all out next election…oh but wait this it Toronto where mediocrity rules.

        • joe

          Sure, they made 4 wrongs, what's one more?

  • GDL

    It seems to me that there is a missing dimension in this article, one that deals with general competence. It's all fine and great to argue that job X in the public sector and job X in the private sector should be paid the same, but do we actually know if, on average, both jobs are attracting the same quality of worker? Do top grads from universities work in the private or gov't sectors? Where does the lower half of the graduating class find work? Does one sector work longer hours than others? Does one need to travel or inconvenience one's life moreso than the other? Are additional burdens placed on one but not the other? These are important things to consider in considering this issue, and most are absent. While on paper an accountant might equal an accountant, we all know that, even within different companies, or different accountants at the same firm, there can be huge differences in competence, productivity, and the like.

    An obvious example that one can point to here is that, in the federal public service, accountants may well be paid more than an equivalent accountant in the private sector because the public servant might also need to know how to speak French, and that this is a skill for which the accountant may earn further compensation. The private sector likely doesn't care if their accountant speaks French or not, it's not going to affect communications with the Montreal office much.

    I'm not defending either side here, I just think these issues are points that need to be considered if we're actually going to draw some worthwhile conclusions. Good article otherwise.

    • Cindy

      Thanks for a sensible, balanced and insightful response. I have a strong view on one side of this argument, but it's refreshing to be reminded that we all need to take a step back from an emotional issue and apply a little logic.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/c_9 c_9

    Sorry for misunderstanding, but your patronizing tone doesn't really help the level of debate.

    My interpretation was that raises need to outpace inflation otherwise there's no benefit to the worker. I suggest that they are actually receiving those *actual* raises, above and beyond cost of living, on average. I would suggest additionally that nobody in this conversation is treading water, but rather we're all (unionized or not) about 100 feet above the water floating on clouds, and sinking at different rates back to a safer level. (sorry for the painful metaphor)

    I didn't respond to your reference to stirring resentment, and I actually agree that media can unfairly characterize a debate. I don't see that as clearly as you obviously do in this case though.

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/SisyphusThis SisyphusThis

      And I'm so glad that the good folks at MacLean's took the time and money to send
      their staff to the " How to Use Loaded Language in Two Easy Lessons " inservice.

      Probably got a good group rate through Kevin Durant , eh ?

      • Joe

        Do I detect sarcasm from the above poster? Is CUPE paying for his lessons on being sarcastic? Did CUPE get a 'fair' group rate by picketing in front of sarcasm school?

  • http://demosthenes.blogspot.com Demosthenes

    The amazing part about all this is that, thanks to yeoman work by conservatives the world over, the response to “unions get paid better than I do” is never “maybe we should form a union” and always “DOWN WITH UNIONS!”

    Sure, I can see employers cheering on a race to the bottom for wages. But you’d think workers would be a wee bit leerier of the idea.

    • Ryan

      Well see, the government should not be viewed as an employer. For example, the GM union and their plight with their boss (GM management), doesn't really raise the ire of anyone, because it's essentially a private matter and will resolve itself (ex. higher prices mean less cars being sold).

      Public unions have one goal in mind whether or not they realize it; to screw the taxpayer. Every cent raise they get more than the private workers is only done because the government has been given the authority to do so. But it's the private workers that actually produce wealth, and when you screw the private workers, you're ultimately screwing everyone.

      If the taxpayers are unwilling to support 18 bankable sick days a year and you WORK FOR THE TAXPAYER, well, then you don't get 18 bankable sick days a year.

      • http://intensedebate.com/people/SisyphusThis SisyphusThis

        Well, going through that looking glass leads me to a place where private sector employees are being
        screwed by public sector employees. Not by their employers. Because their employers are too busy
        massaging their stock options.
        Glad all those years of " think tank " persuasion didn't go to waste.

    • subplanner

      Actually, the right to strike & picket, includes an employer's 'secondary' sites. The city set itself up for this, knowing 'flying' pickets can show up anywhere management decides to try to break the strike, by designating dump sites, other than the regular public dump. Excerpt from the OPSEU website, "The Supreme Court of Canada has declared that secondary picketing is no longer illegal under the common law."

    • Cindy

      Sorry to burst your bubble, but many workers want to see the end of unions too. I personally have quit a job because it was going to require me to move in to a union. While it may seem bizarre to many CUPE (and other union) members, I'd just as soon not give my hard-earned dollars to an organization whose mandate is to protect the mediocre or complacent (god knows there are already far too many of those in a union environment) and to limit my own earning potential because I work harder and contribute more.

      At one time workers were legitimately abused. Unions arose as a result, as well they should have. But today, in the 21st century, they have become a drag on the rest of us. I personally look very much forward to their complete demise.

      • http://intensedebate.com/people/SisyphusThis SisyphusThis

        I've heard Catherine Swift say the same thing. She gets paid a handsome sum for it.

        In the union "environments" where I've worked the "mediocre and complacent" were
        usually quickly promoted to management level.

        • joe

          Yes it's so unfair that the ones with no sense of macroeconomics nor compromise never gets promoted… Oh wait, CUPE probably did that and that's why they're doing such a wonderful job serving the Torontonians

        • joe

          Yes it's so unfair that the ones with no sense of macroeconomics nor compromise never gets promoted… Oh wait, CUPE probably did that and that's why they're doing such a wonderful job serving the Torontonians

        • joe

          Yes it's so unfair that the ones with no sense of macroeconomics nor compromise never gets promoted… Oh wait, CUPE probably did that and that's why they're doing such a wonderful job serving the Torontonians

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/SisyphusThis SisyphusThis

    A piece that makes a bit more sense …..

    http://lfpress.ca/newsstand/Business/2009/07/15/1…

    • Joe

      I don't know why I printed that article out from your link, but it did made a lot more sense in my garbage bin.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/Jack_Mitchell Jack Mitchell

    It is possible to get screwed by more than one person at the same time.

  • Peimac

    The only good Union these days is a dead union. Gimme gimme gimme. That a single one of them should ever complain about bad service in the public sector or high taxes while endorsing strike for pay for unused sick days makes me want to upchuck.

    • Rob

      Dear Peimac . Unions are composed of human beings and you are saying they should be dead. YOU ARE SICK!

    • chris

      IF we didn't have unions most of the working class would still be working 6 days a week at 12 hours a day. Don't worry though unions are slowly being killed off and we are slowly working more and more. Capital is doing well and thanks you for your support.

    • Joe

      A worker in 1909: You can't treat the working man this way. One day, we'll form a union and get the fair and equitable treatment we deserve! Then we'll go too far, and get corrupt and shiftless, and the Japanese will eat us alive!

      Burns's grandfather: The Japanese? Those sandal-wearing goldfish-tenders? Bosh! Flimshaw!
      Mr. Burns: [to Smithers, in the present] If only we'd listened to that boy, instead of walling him up in the abandoned coke oven.

      - quote from The Simpsons

      • http://intensedebate.com/people/SisyphusThis SisyphusThis

        Ah. I was wondering where you got your labour relations education.

        • Joe

          As long as it's not from the detached reality of inside the union, I think I'll do just fine, thank you for the wondering though.

    • Anne

      Unions had and still do have a place, essentially for protection of the workers under the umbrella of a particular union. But when unions get too big or too powerful, companies will eventually react. One only has to look at the demise of the auto industry and its subsiquent bailouts, the demise of the farm implement industry in Brantford in the early 80's (when maintenance staff sweeping floors were getting $20/hr), and my experience in the grocery industry where my union at the time pressed for wage increases that caused the chain I worked for to restructure, close down stores and reopen them later as non-union stores. I would like to look at companies that are non-union like Toyota or explore profit sharing ideas for possibilities on how to restructure employee/employer relationships. There are companies in the private sector who are actively employing new ways of working co-operatively with their employees, perhaps the public sector should look to these ideas as possibilities too.

  • subplanner

    Ryan, I guess you forgot about the humongous bailout Ontario, Canada & US governments recently provided to GMC "management" !?That too, is taxpayer funded, using our money to save a very poorly managed corporation. Did we get to vote on these outrageous bailouts for sick private businesses ? Don't hold your breath waiting for them to repay us. if you think somehow private sector workers work harder or are smarter, why don't you pack it in and tell your private employer to take his miserable job and shove it ! Then try getting into the public service and walk a kilometre in their workboots, while they pick up your garbage, one can at a time and carry it back to the truck and dump it yourself ! (as Gaunilon suggested, see above)

    • Ryan

      Sorry it was a bad example I used. I only wanted to highlight the difference between a private company negotiating with a private union, and government negotiating with a public union. The bailout of GM is not how the private sector is supposed to work, so my mistake for using probably the worst possible example I could have used lol

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/c_9 c_9

    I guess I'm short on caffeine (or maybe overloaded) but this went right over my head. Am I using loaded language? Am I Maclean's staff? I'm definitely not the latter, but I often am the former. Didn't mean to push that hard with my phrasing, but there it is. Just to shake things up further, I'm a regular NDP voter too. *shrug*

    If not aimed at me I apologize for polluting the thread.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/SisyphusThis SisyphusThis

    Yes. It's part of the excitement and perversion of the thoroughly modern economy.

    • joe

      The modern economy of being held hostage by my fellow garbagemen, who claims that they're being screwed because they're not being paid more enough than the rest of private sector.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/SisyphusThis SisyphusThis

    There's over-the-counter medication for that.

  • Rob

    The rich cause the recession and the workers get the blame. What else is new?

  • Rob
    • different voice

      As one City employee, I work hard too, so as most of my coworkers, we are not lazy bugs and just drain tax payer money. Comparing my past working experience with private company, public sector is more work, less pay and multi-task…… .
      Anyway, WE ARE WORKING HARD TOO.

      • Joe

        If what you say is true that "comparing past working experience with private company, public sector is more work, less pay and multi-task…… .", then clearly you're an exception to the norm.

  • Scout

    Also, I think this piece relied way too heavily on the CFIB's "research". Their methodology is utter crap.

  • Ana

    The unions are running themselves into the history books, as they run industries into the bankruptcy courts.
    GM to workers: 'We can offer you $53 an hour…with benefits in order to keep the production line open'
    Workers: 'hello no, we won't take that crap'
    GM: ok – we give up -her'es your $75 an hour, but we'll run out of money in 11 months – then no one will have a job.
    non unions: duh.

    • chris

      GM workers actually don't get paid $75. That number comes from dividing the total number of current workers by wage, benefit and retirement payout costs. Including benefits and especially the pension pay for retired workers is misleading.

  • rmg

    Having looked at the details of the proposed contract in financial terms it is far too generous. The money is in not in the budgets. The city seems to think they can just raise taxes to pay for it with impunity.
    However the majority work in the private sector whose incomes for the most part are way below those in the public sector. Even more, a significant number of city residents are in the retirement bracket. The mayor is clearly incompetent, the unions out to defend their cut and power but a huge reality check has to be administered asap or the city goes bankrupt. It is now getting to the point I pay more in property taxes than I do in income tax….that alone tells you something is very wrong with city hall.

  • joe

    Yes, just look at GM, the managers are obviously lying about GM going bankruptcy when they're really loaded. They're not really going to shutdown any plant, just bluffing is all… oh wait…

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