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	<title>Comments on: &#039;Restate our position&#039;</title>
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		<title>By: sea_n_mountains</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/07/21/restate-our-position/comment-page-1/#comment-145406</link>
		<dc:creator>sea_n_mountains</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 02:39:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>uhm while you are accurate that Abdelrazik was not in jail, i do not think the distinction has any implication for the argument at hand.

the point is merely that we now have a series of individuals including Abdelrazik,, Sampson, and Arar, that regardless of where/how each of these individuals were being held, were all being tortured, their health and their lives were at risk and the Canadian Government(s) of the day in each case was appallingly lackadaisical about what it was willing to do, and how quickly it was willing to do it, to protect these citizens, regardless of their ancestry and skin colour. shameful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>uhm while you are accurate that Abdelrazik was not in jail, i do not think the distinction has any implication for the argument at hand.</p>
<p>the point is merely that we now have a series of individuals including Abdelrazik,, Sampson, and Arar, that regardless of where/how each of these individuals were being held, were all being tortured, their health and their lives were at risk and the Canadian Government(s) of the day in each case was appallingly lackadaisical about what it was willing to do, and how quickly it was willing to do it, to protect these citizens, regardless of their ancestry and skin colour. shameful.</p>
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		<title>By: Not Stephen Colbert</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/07/21/restate-our-position/comment-page-1/#comment-145405</link>
		<dc:creator>Not Stephen Colbert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 23:45:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What Sampson and Martin have in common is that they were in jail, which complicates things for the government. Abdelrazik was not in jail; he just needed his government to help him get on a plane home. It did anything but.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What Sampson and Martin have in common is that they were in jail, which complicates things for the government. Abdelrazik was not in jail; he just needed his government to help him get on a plane home. It did anything but.</p>
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		<title>By: Not Stephen Colbert</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/07/21/restate-our-position/comment-page-1/#comment-145404</link>
		<dc:creator>Not Stephen Colbert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 21:17:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Martin was brought home basically immediately after her conviction in Mexico--the Canadian government worked to expedite her return.

Abdelrazik was brought home a month or so after a court ordered the government to return him--a month in which the government seemed to be desperately searching for any reason to ignore or appeal the ruling, which itself followed years of legal action against a government that at best refused to aid, and at worst actively worked against, a Canadian citizen who had been cleared of accusations that, aside from his religion and skin colour, seemed to have no basis whatsoever.

So basically, what I&#039;m saying is that I think there&#039;s an argument to be made that the two cases are not parallel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Martin was brought home basically immediately after her conviction in Mexico&#8211;the Canadian government worked to expedite her return.</p>
<p>Abdelrazik was brought home a month or so after a court ordered the government to return him&#8211;a month in which the government seemed to be desperately searching for any reason to ignore or appeal the ruling, which itself followed years of legal action against a government that at best refused to aid, and at worst actively worked against, a Canadian citizen who had been cleared of accusations that, aside from his religion and skin colour, seemed to have no basis whatsoever.</p>
<p>So basically, what I&#039;m saying is that I think there&#039;s an argument to be made that the two cases are not parallel.</p>
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		<title>By: Blammo</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/07/21/restate-our-position/comment-page-1/#comment-145403</link>
		<dc:creator>Blammo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 14:32:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, the Harperites have a base that they have to appease.  You think it&#039;s easy appeasing these rednecks?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, the Harperites have a base that they have to appease.  You think it&#039;s easy appeasing these rednecks?</p>
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		<title>By: sea_n_mountains</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/07/21/restate-our-position/comment-page-1/#comment-145402</link>
		<dc:creator>sea_n_mountains</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 14:16:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As well as William Sampson who was left to rot in SA for a period of 2 years and seven months while also being tortured.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As well as William Sampson who was left to rot in SA for a period of 2 years and seven months while also being tortured.</p>
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		<title>By: jolyon</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/07/21/restate-our-position/comment-page-1/#comment-145401</link>
		<dc:creator>jolyon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 13:23:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So you are saying the bureaucrats at DFAIT have developed a &#039;colour coded&#039; system? What &#039;shade&#039; exactly earns you the &#039;ignore&#039; status when both B Martin and Abdelrazik have been brought home?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So you are saying the bureaucrats at DFAIT have developed a &#039;colour coded&#039; system? What &#039;shade&#039; exactly earns you the &#039;ignore&#039; status when both B Martin and Abdelrazik have been brought home?</p>
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		<title>By: John D</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/07/21/restate-our-position/comment-page-1/#comment-145400</link>
		<dc:creator>John D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 13:09:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it normal for diplomats to take orders from intelligence officers?  Here in Ottawa there are hundreds of incredibly intelligent just-out-of-univeristy or just-into-Norman-Patterson students frothing at the mouth over the chance to work at DFAIT? Why you would want to do such a thing to your soul is beyond my comprehension.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it normal for diplomats to take orders from intelligence officers?  Here in Ottawa there are hundreds of incredibly intelligent just-out-of-univeristy or just-into-Norman-Patterson students frothing at the mouth over the chance to work at DFAIT? Why you would want to do such a thing to your soul is beyond my comprehension.</p>
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		<title>By: Chet Champion</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/07/21/restate-our-position/comment-page-1/#comment-145399</link>
		<dc:creator>Chet Champion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 13:05:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its the colour coded citizenry system developed by DFAIT. If your skin is this shade or darker, we will ignore you when you get into trouble overseas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its the colour coded citizenry system developed by DFAIT. If your skin is this shade or darker, we will ignore you when you get into trouble overseas.</p>
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		<title>By: sea_n_mountains</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/07/21/restate-our-position/comment-page-1/#comment-145398</link>
		<dc:creator>sea_n_mountains</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 09:45:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>undoubtedly Scott.

what could one possibly say that captures the appropriate sentiment to react to a state that is &#039;non-committal&#039; over the denial of due process, torture and threatened murder of (some of) its citizens?

this is sad and deeply disturbing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>undoubtedly Scott.</p>
<p>what could one possibly say that captures the appropriate sentiment to react to a state that is &#039;non-committal&#039; over the denial of due process, torture and threatened murder of (some of) its citizens?</p>
<p>this is sad and deeply disturbing.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott_Tribe</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/07/21/restate-our-position/comment-page-1/#comment-145397</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott_Tribe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 06:01:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Disgraceful, Despicable..

.. and I&#039;m probably understating what I feel reading that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Disgraceful, Despicable..</p>
<p>.. and I&#039;m probably understating what I feel reading that.</p>
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