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	<title>Comments on: Will electric cars ignite a lithium boom?</title>
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		<title>By: Discount Cars</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/07/23/will-electric-cars-ignite-a-lithium-boom/comment-page-1/#comment-146801</link>
		<dc:creator>Discount Cars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Oct 2010 03:04:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am one who is not convinced the full electric cars are the solution. The effect this may have on the energy consumption and over load to the grid it going to cause long term issues and restriction to using power to charge the vehicle. I too like the concept of building vehicles to use whatever fuel source is locally available. This may then real revolutionize travel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am one who is not convinced the full electric cars are the solution. The effect this may have on the energy consumption and over load to the grid it going to cause long term issues and restriction to using power to charge the vehicle. I too like the concept of building vehicles to use whatever fuel source is locally available. This may then real revolutionize travel.</p>
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		<title>By: john</title>
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		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 23:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also I imagine that eventually there will be a lithium battery recycling industry returning old lithium back to the supply side and this would also ensure lithium didn&#039;t follow the clasic depletion curve.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also I imagine that eventually there will be a lithium battery recycling industry returning old lithium back to the supply side and this would also ensure lithium didn&#039;t follow the clasic depletion curve.</p>
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		<title>By: Harbles</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/07/23/will-electric-cars-ignite-a-lithium-boom/comment-page-1/#comment-146798</link>
		<dc:creator>Harbles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 02:07:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The total radioactive waste inventory for Canada figures for up to 1998 are in this &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.llrwmo.org/en/programs/ongoing/inventory.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; report&lt;/a&gt;(1 MB .pdf).
A quote;
&lt;blockquote&gt; In 1998, the 14 operating power reactors produced 78,138 bundles of nuclear fuel waste. This
represents approximately 313 m3 of waste based on a volume of 0.004 m3 for a typical CANDU
fuel bundle. The accumulated nuclear fuel waste inventory to the end of 1998 for the power
reactors was 1,347,141 bundles or approximately 5,389 m3 of waste.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Here is a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ccnr.org/usgs.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; document&lt;/a&gt; on the toxicity of nuclear waste over time.
And a &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radioactive_waste&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; Wiki on High Level Radioactive waste&lt;/a&gt;.

Not impossible technical challenges but I fear we lack the political wisdom to do it right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The total radioactive waste inventory for Canada figures for up to 1998 are in this <a href="http://www.llrwmo.org/en/programs/ongoing/inventory.pdf" rel="nofollow"> report</a>(1 MB .pdf).<br />
A quote;</p>
<blockquote><p> In 1998, the 14 operating power reactors produced 78,138 bundles of nuclear fuel waste. This<br />
represents approximately 313 m3 of waste based on a volume of 0.004 m3 for a typical CANDU<br />
fuel bundle. The accumulated nuclear fuel waste inventory to the end of 1998 for the power<br />
reactors was 1,347,141 bundles or approximately 5,389 m3 of waste.</p></blockquote>
<p>Here is a <a href="http://www.ccnr.org/usgs.html" rel="nofollow"> document</a> on the toxicity of nuclear waste over time.<br />
And a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radioactive_waste" rel="nofollow"> Wiki on High Level Radioactive waste</a>.</p>
<p>Not impossible technical challenges but I fear we lack the political wisdom to do it right.</p>
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		<title>By: Harbles</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/07/23/will-electric-cars-ignite-a-lithium-boom/comment-page-1/#comment-146795</link>
		<dc:creator>Harbles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 02:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An amazing number of stories on the net about this recently. Experts say no shortage likely , however this does not deter the press from helping inflate another commodity bubble similar to the Palladium bubble after the cold fusion frenzy of the late &#039;80s early &#039;90s.
I suspect a lot of commodities traders have a stake in Lithium and just want to make a quick buck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An amazing number of stories on the net about this recently. Experts say no shortage likely , however this does not deter the press from helping inflate another commodity bubble similar to the Palladium bubble after the cold fusion frenzy of the late &#39;80s early &#39;90s.<br />
I suspect a lot of commodities traders have a stake in Lithium and just want to make a quick buck.</p>
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		<title>By: PhilCP</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/07/23/will-electric-cars-ignite-a-lithium-boom/comment-page-1/#comment-146799</link>
		<dc:creator>PhilCP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 01:19:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the info</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the info</p>
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		<title>By: Harbles</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/07/23/will-electric-cars-ignite-a-lithium-boom/comment-page-1/#comment-146797</link>
		<dc:creator>Harbles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:40:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The total radioactive waste inventory for Canada figures for up to 1998 are in this &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.llrwmo.org/en/programs/ongoing/inventory.pdf&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; report&lt;/a&gt;.
A quote;
&lt;blockquote&gt; In 1998, the 14 operating power reactors produced 78,138 bundles of nuclear fuel waste. This
represents approximately 313 m3 of waste based on a volume of 0.004 m3 for a typical CANDU
fuel bundle. The accumulated nuclear fuel waste inventory to the end of 1998 for the power
reactors was 1,347,141 bundles or approximately 5,389 m3 of waste.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Here is a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ccnr.org/usgs.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; document&lt;/a&gt; on the toxicity of nuclear waste over time.
And a &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radioactive_waste&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; Wiki on High Level Radioactive waste&lt;/a&gt;.
And a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&amp;rlz=1C1GGLS_enCA315CA316&amp;q=candu+nuclear+waste+&amp;btnG=Search&amp;meta=&quot; Googleful of Candu nuclear waste.

Not impossible technical challenges but I fear we lack the political wisdom to do it right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The total radioactive waste inventory for Canada figures for up to 1998 are in this <a href="http://www.llrwmo.org/en/programs/ongoing/inventory.pdf" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"> report</a>.<br />
A quote;</p>
<blockquote><p> In 1998, the 14 operating power reactors produced 78,138 bundles of nuclear fuel waste. This<br />
represents approximately 313 m3 of waste based on a volume of 0.004 m3 for a typical CANDU<br />
fuel bundle. The accumulated nuclear fuel waste inventory to the end of 1998 for the power<br />
reactors was 1,347,141 bundles or approximately 5,389 m3 of waste.</p></blockquote>
<p>Here is a <a href="http://www.ccnr.org/usgs.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"> document</a> on the toxicity of nuclear waste over time.<br />
And a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radioactive_waste" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"> Wiki on High Level Radioactive waste</a>.<br />
And a &amp;lt;a href=&quot;<a href="http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&#038;rlz=1C1GGLS_enCA315CA316&#038;q=candu+nuclear+waste+&#038;btnG=Search&#038;meta=&#038;quot" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&#038;rlz=1C1GGLS_enCA315CA316&#038;q=candu+nuclear+waste+&#038;btnG=Search&#038;meta=&#038;quot</a>; Googleful of Candu nuclear waste.</p>
<p>Not impossible technical challenges but I fear we lack the political wisdom to do it right.</p>
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		<title>By: Harbles</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/07/23/will-electric-cars-ignite-a-lithium-boom/comment-page-1/#comment-146796</link>
		<dc:creator>Harbles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:38:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The total radioactive waste inventory for Canada figures for up to 1998 are in this &lt;a href=&quot;http:\/\/www.llrwmo.org\/en\/programs\/ongoing\/inventory.pdf&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; report&lt;/a&gt;.
A quote;
&lt;blockquote&gt; In 1998, the 14 operating power reactors produced 78,138 bundles of nuclear fuel waste. This
represents approximately 313 m3 of waste based on a volume of 0.004 m3 for a typical CANDU
fuel bundle. The accumulated nuclear fuel waste inventory to the end of 1998 for the power
reactors was 1,347,141 bundles or approximately 5,389 m3 of waste.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Here is a &lt;a href=&quot;http:\/\/www.ccnr.org\/usgs.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; document&lt;/a&gt; on the toxicity of nuclear waste over time.
And a &lt;a href=&quot;http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Radioactive_waste&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; Wiki on High Level Radioactive waste&lt;/a&gt;.
And a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&amp;rlz=1C1GGLS_enCA315CA316&amp;q=candu+nuclear+waste+&amp;btnG=Search&amp;meta=&quot;&gt; Googleful of Candu nuclear waste.

Not impossible technical challenges but I fear we lack the political wisdom to do it right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The total radioactive waste inventory for Canada figures for up to 1998 are in this <a href="http:\/\/www.llrwmo.org\/en\/programs\/ongoing\/inventory.pdf" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"> report</a>.<br />
A quote;</p>
<blockquote><p> In 1998, the 14 operating power reactors produced 78,138 bundles of nuclear fuel waste. This<br />
represents approximately 313 m3 of waste based on a volume of 0.004 m3 for a typical CANDU<br />
fuel bundle. The accumulated nuclear fuel waste inventory to the end of 1998 for the power<br />
reactors was 1,347,141 bundles or approximately 5,389 m3 of waste.</p></blockquote>
<p>Here is a <a href="http:\/\/www.ccnr.org\/usgs.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"> document</a> on the toxicity of nuclear waste over time.<br />
And a <a href="http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Radioactive_waste" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"> Wiki on High Level Radioactive waste</a>.<br />
And a &lt;a href=&quot;<a href="http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&#038;rlz=1C1GGLS_enCA315CA316&#038;q=candu+nuclear+waste+&#038;btnG=Search&#038;meta=&quot;&#038;gt" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&#038;rlz=1C1GGLS_enCA315CA316&#038;q=candu+nuclear+waste+&#038;btnG=Search&#038;meta=&quot;&#038;gt</a>; Googleful of Candu nuclear waste.</p>
<p>Not impossible technical challenges but I fear we lack the political wisdom to do it right.</p>
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		<title>By: PhilCP</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/07/23/will-electric-cars-ignite-a-lithium-boom/comment-page-1/#comment-146794</link>
		<dc:creator>PhilCP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 03:46:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you have a good link that gives some detail about the amount of nuclear waste created in a typical Ontario nuclear reactor.  I would also be interested to know exactly what it is in nuclear waste that makes it so dangerous to handle for so many years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you have a good link that gives some detail about the amount of nuclear waste created in a typical Ontario nuclear reactor.  I would also be interested to know exactly what it is in nuclear waste that makes it so dangerous to handle for so many years.</p>
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		<title>By: dom from BC</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/07/23/will-electric-cars-ignite-a-lithium-boom/comment-page-1/#comment-146793</link>
		<dc:creator>dom from BC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 23:33:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In BC the name is appropriate. 90% of BC Hydro&#039;s power generation comes from hydro-electrics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In BC the name is appropriate. 90% of BC Hydro&#039;s power generation comes from hydro-electrics.</p>
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		<title>By: Roger Arnold</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/07/23/will-electric-cars-ignite-a-lithium-boom/comment-page-1/#comment-146792</link>
		<dc:creator>Roger Arnold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 04:40:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually all non-renewable resources do &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; follow the same curve.  One of the chief criticisms of the USGS estimates for vast oil resources that would defer peaking for several more decades is that they were made by mineral geologists who didn&#039;t appreciate the differences between oil resources and other mineral resources.

Minerals typically follow a distribution curve in which the amount of resource in ores at a given concentration level increases exponentially with decreasing concentration.  In the case of lithium, moving from the high grade ores found in places like Bolivia to &quot;ores&quot; whose supply is, for all practical purposes, unlimited is not even very difficult.  There is a huge amount of lithium in sea water.  In fact, the high grade lithium ores, as I understand it, are nothing but old salt deposits.  Possibly there&#039;s been some leaching process which has preferentially concentrated the lithium salts over the usual sodium, potassium, calcium, and magnesium salts in sea water, but it&#039;s still very feasible to obtain lithium from sea water.  The price wouldn&#039;t even be much higher than it is now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually all non-renewable resources do <i>not</i> follow the same curve.  One of the chief criticisms of the USGS estimates for vast oil resources that would defer peaking for several more decades is that they were made by mineral geologists who didn&#039;t appreciate the differences between oil resources and other mineral resources.</p>
<p>Minerals typically follow a distribution curve in which the amount of resource in ores at a given concentration level increases exponentially with decreasing concentration.  In the case of lithium, moving from the high grade ores found in places like Bolivia to &quot;ores&quot; whose supply is, for all practical purposes, unlimited is not even very difficult.  There is a huge amount of lithium in sea water.  In fact, the high grade lithium ores, as I understand it, are nothing but old salt deposits.  Possibly there&#039;s been some leaching process which has preferentially concentrated the lithium salts over the usual sodium, potassium, calcium, and magnesium salts in sea water, but it&#039;s still very feasible to obtain lithium from sea water.  The price wouldn&#039;t even be much higher than it is now.</p>
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		<title>By: ElectroPig</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/07/23/will-electric-cars-ignite-a-lithium-boom/comment-page-1/#comment-146791</link>
		<dc:creator>ElectroPig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 02:37:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We can completely skip non-renewable resources and go right to a renewable energy economy, and we can do so within a few years of getting started.  The trouble is not that there is no political will to do so, but that big money interests refuse to let go of their profits in their existing markets.

If you were to take the time to find out the best possible solution (see:  &lt;a href=&quot;http://JackHerer.com&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://JackHerer.com&lt;/a&gt; for more and very detailed information on this) you would quickly see that the solutions to the vast majority of the world&#039;s problems has not only existed, but was known for millennia, and has deliberately been removed from possibility of use by making the solution illegal and keeping the public ignorant of the truth.

We need to look at REAL renewable resources that have worked very well in the past, and which can be pressed into service to clean the environment while restoring the global energy supply in a decentralized and non-corporate-controlled manner.

Lack of political will and corporate profiteering be damned...it&#039;s time that The People got off their collective lard reservoirs and did something about it themselves!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We can completely skip non-renewable resources and go right to a renewable energy economy, and we can do so within a few years of getting started.  The trouble is not that there is no political will to do so, but that big money interests refuse to let go of their profits in their existing markets.</p>
<p>If you were to take the time to find out the best possible solution (see:  <a href="http://JackHerer.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://JackHerer.com</a> for more and very detailed information on this) you would quickly see that the solutions to the vast majority of the world&#039;s problems has not only existed, but was known for millennia, and has deliberately been removed from possibility of use by making the solution illegal and keeping the public ignorant of the truth.</p>
<p>We need to look at REAL renewable resources that have worked very well in the past, and which can be pressed into service to clean the environment while restoring the global energy supply in a decentralized and non-corporate-controlled manner.</p>
<p>Lack of political will and corporate profiteering be damned&#8230;it&#039;s time that The People got off their collective lard reservoirs and did something about it themselves!</p>
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		<title>By: ElectroPig</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/07/23/will-electric-cars-ignite-a-lithium-boom/comment-page-1/#comment-146790</link>
		<dc:creator>ElectroPig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 02:25:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I&#039;m glad that there won&#039;t be any new nuclear reactors for the forseeable future (with the 240,000 year half-life of radiactive waste, and the obvious costs to store anything for that length of time) I think that there are better alternatives than trashing the entire established auto industry for no other reason than that there is a need for a better, less toxic source of fuel to run those engines on.

ALL engines were once made to run with whatever fuel was available, and all farmers grew whatever they needed to run their engines.

We need to return to the roots of the auto industry to give ourselves a change at a future auto industry. I&#039;ve been saying it for 30 years...maybe now someone will listen?

To be blunt, we no longer need oil as a fuel source (nor did we ever, technically), but first we need to recognize this fact for what it is, and start moving in an intelligent direction.

Note: Henry Ford built a car with hemp-plastic body panels that ran on hemp oil, and now Lotus has done the same, in the Eco-Elise. How long will it be before the rest of the industry catches up to Henry Ford&#039;s century-old idea?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I&#039;m glad that there won&#039;t be any new nuclear reactors for the forseeable future (with the 240,000 year half-life of radiactive waste, and the obvious costs to store anything for that length of time) I think that there are better alternatives than trashing the entire established auto industry for no other reason than that there is a need for a better, less toxic source of fuel to run those engines on.</p>
<p>ALL engines were once made to run with whatever fuel was available, and all farmers grew whatever they needed to run their engines.</p>
<p>We need to return to the roots of the auto industry to give ourselves a change at a future auto industry. I&#039;ve been saying it for 30 years&#8230;maybe now someone will listen?</p>
<p>To be blunt, we no longer need oil as a fuel source (nor did we ever, technically), but first we need to recognize this fact for what it is, and start moving in an intelligent direction.</p>
<p>Note: Henry Ford built a car with hemp-plastic body panels that ran on hemp oil, and now Lotus has done the same, in the Eco-Elise. How long will it be before the rest of the industry catches up to Henry Ford&#039;s century-old idea?</p>
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		<title>By: ElectroPig</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/07/23/will-electric-cars-ignite-a-lithium-boom/comment-page-1/#comment-146789</link>
		<dc:creator>ElectroPig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 02:24:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I&#039;m glad that there won&#039;t be any new nuclear reactors for the forseeable future (with the 240,000 year half-life of radiactive waste, and the obvious costs to store anything for that length of time) I think that there are better alternatives than trashing the entire established auto industry for no other reason than that there is a need for a better, less toxic source of fuel to run those engines on.

ALL engines were once made to run with whatever fuel was available, and all farmers grew whatever they needed to run their engines.

We need to return to the roots of the auto industry to give ourselves a change at a future auto industry. I&#039;ve been saying it for 30 years...maybe now someone will listen?

To be blunt, we no longer need oil as a fuel source, but first we need to recognize this fact for what it is, and start moving in an intelligent direction.

Note:  Henry Ford built a car with hemp-plastic body panels that ran on hemp oil, and now Lotus has done the same, in the Eco-Elise.  How long will it be before the rest of the industry catches up to Henry Ford&#039;s century-old idea?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I&#039;m glad that there won&#039;t be any new nuclear reactors for the forseeable future (with the 240,000 year half-life of radiactive waste, and the obvious costs to store anything for that length of time) I think that there are better alternatives than trashing the entire established auto industry for no other reason than that there is a need for a better, less toxic source of fuel to run those engines on.</p>
<p>ALL engines were once made to run with whatever fuel was available, and all farmers grew whatever they needed to run their engines.</p>
<p>We need to return to the roots of the auto industry to give ourselves a change at a future auto industry. I&#039;ve been saying it for 30 years&#8230;maybe now someone will listen?</p>
<p>To be blunt, we no longer need oil as a fuel source, but first we need to recognize this fact for what it is, and start moving in an intelligent direction.</p>
<p>Note:  Henry Ford built a car with hemp-plastic body panels that ran on hemp oil, and now Lotus has done the same, in the Eco-Elise.  How long will it be before the rest of the industry catches up to Henry Ford&#039;s century-old idea?</p>
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		<title>By: ElectroPig</title>
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		<dc:creator>ElectroPig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 02:22:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I&#039;m glad that there won&#039;t be any new nuclear reactors for the forseeable future (with the 240,000 year half-life of radiactive waste, and the obvious costs to store anything for that length of time) I think that there are better alternatives than trashing the entire established auto industry for no other reason than that there is a need for a better, less toxic source of fuel to run those engines on.

ALL engines were once made to run with whatever fuel was available, and all farmers grew whatever they needed to run their engines.

We need to return to the roots of the auto industry to give ourselves a change at a future auto industry.  I&#039;ve been saying it for 30 years...maybe now someone will listen?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I&#039;m glad that there won&#039;t be any new nuclear reactors for the forseeable future (with the 240,000 year half-life of radiactive waste, and the obvious costs to store anything for that length of time) I think that there are better alternatives than trashing the entire established auto industry for no other reason than that there is a need for a better, less toxic source of fuel to run those engines on.</p>
<p>ALL engines were once made to run with whatever fuel was available, and all farmers grew whatever they needed to run their engines.</p>
<p>We need to return to the roots of the auto industry to give ourselves a change at a future auto industry.  I&#039;ve been saying it for 30 years&#8230;maybe now someone will listen?</p>
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		<title>By: Keith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 14:45:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If a news reader one more time calls electricity &#039;a fuel&#039;... &quot;

Kind of like how in BC and Ontario electricity is called Hydro even though Ontario has nuclear power and one of the worst coal plants in NA.  Calling electricity Hydro doesn&#039;t respect where it came from.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;If a news reader one more time calls electricity &#039;a fuel&#039;&#8230; &quot;</p>
<p>Kind of like how in BC and Ontario electricity is called Hydro even though Ontario has nuclear power and one of the worst coal plants in NA.  Calling electricity Hydro doesn&#039;t respect where it came from.</p>
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		<title>By: dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 23:44:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lithium won&#039;t run out, just in the same way that oil won&#039;t run out, what is more worrying is the amount of energy that will be used to extract lithium in the future once all the easy to reach lithium has been exhausted. Also on the idea of substitutes - most of the main resource contenders to take over from lithium are even more sparse than lithium. Perhaps we will have electric powered shuttles soon to mine the asteroid belts for resources.. makes about as much sense as going electrical does today.

If a news reader one more time calls electricity &#039;a fuel&#039;...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lithium won&#039;t run out, just in the same way that oil won&#039;t run out, what is more worrying is the amount of energy that will be used to extract lithium in the future once all the easy to reach lithium has been exhausted. Also on the idea of substitutes &#8211; most of the main resource contenders to take over from lithium are even more sparse than lithium. Perhaps we will have electric powered shuttles soon to mine the asteroid belts for resources.. makes about as much sense as going electrical does today.</p>
<p>If a news reader one more time calls electricity &#039;a fuel&#039;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Carl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 23:08:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;could the crisis next decade be Peak Lithium?&quot;

Yes.

All nonrenewable resources follow the same bell shaped discovery, extraction, consumption and depletion curve. Its called Hubberts Peak.

As oil and other nonrenewable resources decline, global economies and populations must too.  We&#039;ve just barely entered a period of contraction that will eventually see the global population decline to somewhere around a billion people. No idea what that means economically but I doubt it is what we would currently call good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;could the crisis next decade be Peak Lithium?&quot;</p>
<p>Yes.</p>
<p>All nonrenewable resources follow the same bell shaped discovery, extraction, consumption and depletion curve. Its called Hubberts Peak.</p>
<p>As oil and other nonrenewable resources decline, global economies and populations must too.  We&#039;ve just barely entered a period of contraction that will eventually see the global population decline to somewhere around a billion people. No idea what that means economically but I doubt it is what we would currently call good.</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Moyse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Moyse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 21:50:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you said it... and I am reorganizing my stock portfolio accordingly, dumped all my tech and retail and bought  some abat - lithium batteries and zaap - electric vehicles.  it&#039;s gonna be a wild ride!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you said it&#8230; and I am reorganizing my stock portfolio accordingly, dumped all my tech and retail and bought  some abat &#8211; lithium batteries and zaap &#8211; electric vehicles.  it&#039;s gonna be a wild ride!</p>
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		<title>By: PatrickW</title>
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		<dc:creator>PatrickW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 20:52:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The billions of dollars world wide currently pledged for production and research on Lithium ion batteries implies that there is an abundance of low cost lithium. Even though lithium shows great promise of two to ten times its current energy density there are other competitors with promising potential. We are at the front end of an amazing transformation of land, sea and air transportation. This is bigger than the industrial revolution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The billions of dollars world wide currently pledged for production and research on Lithium ion batteries implies that there is an abundance of low cost lithium. Even though lithium shows great promise of two to ten times its current energy density there are other competitors with promising potential. We are at the front end of an amazing transformation of land, sea and air transportation. This is bigger than the industrial revolution.</p>
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