Harper’s recovery?

The economy’s looking up, and so is the PM’s approval rating

by Aaron Wherry on Monday, August 24, 2009 11:40am - 61 Comments

Though the EI working group has inspired public sniping from both sides, it may yet yield some kind of compromise. Either way, the Prime Minister had already indicated an intent to make reforms in the fall. The Conservatives will be due to deliver another report card on their economic stimulus efforts when the House returns in September. If they survive that, they will also have a chance to table the traditional fall economic update. And while Steven Fletcher, the minister of state for democratic reform, has renewed talk of eliminating the vote subsidy, the Prime Minister’s Office says the focus will be on the economy and the government’s crime agenda.

“Minority government eschews the big idea,” Power says. “I think what you will have is practical approaches from the Prime Minister. The big idea guys of recent memory—Stéphane Dion and Paul Martin—went up in flames. I don’t think the Prime Minister has a desire to self-immolate. I think his strength is not being the advocate of the big idea, but being the steady hand, with some practical approaches, on the rudder of Canada.”

On this, the book may already have been written. This spring, Tom Flanagan, the University of Calgary political scientist and once one of Stephen Harper’s closest allies, released an expanded edition of Harper’s Team, his insider’s account of the “Conservative rise to power.” In an added final chapter—“The Politics of Survival”—he reflects on the crisis of last winter, the damage done to the Prime Minister’s reputation and the danger presented by a recession. He publicly counsels Harper to focus on the business of government, comfort the party faithful and avoid unnecessary nastiness. But his most trenchant analysis is less a prescription for the future than an observation of the past.

“To end on a personal note, I went through many ups and downs with Stephen. He has never made it easy for himself,” Flanagan writes. “But he has powers of recuperation, and those who now predict his demise because the economy is down and because he made some tactical errors shouldn’t start writing his epitaph. Just as Stephen found a way to survive against the threat of the coalition, he will find a way to lead Harper’s team into the field again.”

With John Geddes

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  • http://intensedebate.com/people/freshlysqueezed freshlysqueezed

    Is it me or does Macleans seem to love them some conservatives? Harpers recovery? C'mon, we have the most mediocre panel of clowns representing all parties. The polls change every day so stop wasting time writing these momentary tiresome stories.

    • Dakota

      HA! Do you even read most of the articles in Macleans?

  • Dakota

    The latest poll by Ipsos Reid, August 24, 2009

    http://www.ipsos-na.com/news/pressrelease.cfm?id=…

    Conservatives – 39
    Liberals – 28
    NDP – 14
    Bloq – 8
    Green – 10

    I think I remember these kinds of numbers under Dion. What excuses will the lib-lefties come up with now?

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/PolJunkie PolJunkie

      Oh please! This is Ipsos. As a rule, the Tories always have at least a 5 point lead in their polls. What a joke!

    • matt

      the poll is now lining a birdcage someplace… Here today, gone later today…

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/OntarioTown OntarioTown

    Since this "CanWest/Global" (media financial woes and suck-up to Cons) poll is totally different, I think I'll wait until some other polls come out to see if it's a trend.

    I prefer to wait until summer is over no matter what party is ahead.

    The timing is a little suspect – CanWest need funding? Macleans get their funding yet?

    • kathryn c

      Indeed – according to the National Post (http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=19… on Nanos polling there is no strong move to the Conservatives.
      "With Conservative MPs beginning to ramp up rhetoric about the need for a majority in the next election, the poll suggests they may not have a high degree of support for that view, said Nanos president and CEO Nik Nanos.

      "The Conservatives have said that they want a majority government for stability, but the polling suggests that only about 31.5% of Canadians would even like them to see them get re-elected," Mr. Nanos said.

      In the poll, 58.5% of respondents said the statement "Stephen Harper has had his chance and it's time for a change" matched their beliefs."

      • Dakota

        Your link is outdated and dead, try this new link.

        http://www.nationalpost.com/news/canada/politics/…

        But then, this one is current and shows a huge Conservative lead, so you probably won't like it as much.

        • http://intensedebate.com/people/freshlysqueezed freshlysqueezed

          wow Dakota…..I'm usually left-thinking but I at least have the objectivity to understand that what's best for this country is best for all of us in the end. I was hoping that Iggy would come in and clean up our government's mess but now am frustrated with a lacklustre performance he and his team have put up. You, on the other hand, are running around with your conservative pom-poms without even a clue as to how this minority government has done no good for this country. Grow a spine…you think Harper gives a sh*t about you?

          • Dakota

            Really? So what is best for Canada is an ex-pat PM that doesn't have a platform?

            That tin foil hat must be glued to your head.

            Grow a brain….do you think Ignatieff is going to stay in Canada once he loses the next election?

          • http://intensedebate.com/people/freshlysqueezed freshlysqueezed

            Read….you clown, read. I'm not with Ignatieff. Not with Harper either. Man, it's Canadians like yourself that are setting us back. Who can't agree that politics in this country have become a contest of flinging mash potatoes. K…..now breathe, and before you respond with a dim-witted comment, think about what i am saying.

          • http://intensedebate.com/people/PolJunkie PolJunkie

            Ryan Sparrow? Is that you?

          • http://www.intensedebate.com/people/PolJunkie PolJunkie

            "Grow a brain….do you think Ignatieff is going to stay in Canada once he loses the next election? "

            Ryan Sparrow? Is that you?

          • http://intensedebate.com/people/danby danby

            My goodness you're an offensive bully.

          • wilson

            'what's best for this country'
            is not having the 3 losers of the last election collectively seize power without the express 'prior' approval of Canadians.

            If Liberals want to admit that they can not win a minority government,
            and therefore will solicit the MPs from the NDP to form a coalition majority government,
            say so going into the next election.

        • kathrync

          How amusing – another link to the same old Ipsos poll.

          For whatever reason, the Nanos story is now at:
          http://www.nationalpost.com/news/canada/story.htm…

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/OntarioTown OntarioTown

    Well, this ought to make you sick to your stomach:

    Monday, August 24, 2009 10:56 AM

    Attack Ignatieff's Office Day
    Robert Silver

    As a Globe columnist (first appointed as such last week by the "World Socialist Web Site" – and as we all know, what they write is nothing but the truth, hence others have taken to calling me same), I am really angry this morning.

    You see, if I am going to take on the title of columnist (rather than hack political blogger), surely I should also be entitled to all of the benefits that come along with such a prestigious position.

    Yet for some reason when the memo went around to the Ottawa political media posse on Friday that they all had to write negative stories about Michael Ignatieff's office in the next 48 hours, I was totally shut out.

    (the articles continues, but you get the jest of it)

    How in hell can any Canadian trust the media after this.

    This is truly awful.

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/avr avr

      You're taking national politics more personally than anyone whose name isn't Harper or Ignatieff ought to. Lighten up.

    • http://www.intensedebate.com/people/avr avr

      "Truly awful?" Yeah, welcome to the average state of how conservatives have been covered in national media for years.

      (Also, you're taking politics more personally than anyone whose name isn't Harper or Ignatieff ought to. Lighten up.)

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/SisyphusThis SisyphusThis

      Oh, I dunno……. hack political blogger kinda fits.

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/KadyITQ KadyITQ

      I'm actually on a (one-day) vacation, so don't tell my bosses I'm posting to the comment threads, but … just to make absolutely sure … you *did* realize he was kidding, right? I mean, about the memo?

      • http://intensedebate.com/people/OntarioTown OntarioTown

        Sorry, Kady, but absolutely do not trust media anymore. Even if he was kidding, as you seem to think, I believe it's true.

        May not have been an actual memo, but pressure from the CanWest/CTV/Global/Sun media would surprise me at all.

        • http://intensedebate.com/people/avr avr

          Yyyyyyeah. I apologize for misreading the earlier post as plain old bias-complaining; you're just a loon.

          So…since he spilled the beans on the Secret Liberal-Hating Media Cabal's conspiracy plans, what repercussions can Silver expect, in your world?

        • http://www.intensedebate.com/people/avr avr

          Yyyyyyeah. I apologize for misreading the earlier post as plain old bias-complaining. Turns out, you're just a loon; who knew?

          So…since he spilled the beans on the Secret Liberal-Hating Media Cabal's conspiracy plans, what repercussions can Silver expect, in your world?

        • http://www.intensedebate.com/people/avr avr

          Yyyyyyeah. I apologize for misreading the earlier post as plain old bias-complaining. Turns out, you're just a Chomskyite loon; who knew?

          So…since he spilled the beans on the Secret Liberal-Hating Media Cabal's conspiracy plans, what repercussions can Silver expect, in your world?

          • http://intensedebate.com/people/OntarioTown OntarioTown

            My world – conspiracy? Please. It's not a secret that a huge majority of media in Canada is conservative leaning. That's not conspiracy nonsense, it's a fact.

            Hey, I won't even buy the Star either. I want real, honest, unbiased, non-partisan journalism. Too much to ask?

            Voice of the people has long gone.

        • http://www.intensedebate.com/people/KadyITQ KadyITQ

          No, he was absolutely, positively, 100 percent kidding. I don't think it occured to him for a second that someone would take it seriously. Really, think about what you're suggesting here — it's just *beyond* ludicrous.

          • http://intensedebate.com/people/OntarioTown OntarioTown

            Kay – ludicrous? Have you paid attention to the opinions/stories this summer? Pathetic. Sun Media has taken over our small town papers (combined all the small towns) and the difference in what is reported, etc. is astounding. In fact, Sun journalist (Goldstein, etc.) are in in HUGE lettering – letters to the editors in tiny, tiny print and not much about local stuff (well, token stuff).

            I'm cancelling my subscription which I only took to help support our local journalists, photographers, etc.

            I will not buy partisan newspaper – left or right.

            I respect you as a journalist, but you are one of the few.

            I can't help it, I do not trust journalists when huge corporations are controlling the message.

          • matt

            Liberals, Tories in dead heat: poll — The Canadian Press

            OTTAWA A new poll suggests the Conservatives and Liberals remain locked in a dead heat amid rumblings of a possible fall election.

            The Canadian Press Harris-Decima survey put the parties in a statistical tie, with 32 per cent support for the Liberals and 31 per cent for the Tories.

            The NDP were at 16 per cent, the Greens at 11, and the Bloc Quebecois at nine.

            The numbers have barely budged throughout the summer, a period in which voters are typically disengaged.

            Some Liberals have been pushing for an autumn election while the Tories have been trashing the idea, saying it would hurt the economic recovery.

            The survey of just over 2,000 respondents was conducted Aug. 13-23 and is considered accurate to within 2.2 percentage points 19 times in 20.

            so much for the Ipsos poll kids.

          • Anon

            Imagine that! Canadians were so scared of a Harper majority that they changed their minds en masse overnight :-) What will wilson, jarrid and other LSOT gnomes do now?

          • http://intensedebate.com/people/john_g2708 john g

            Damn, Aaron. Why can't your blog be more like your magazine writing?

          • http://intensedebate.com/people/Crit_Reasoning Crit_Reasoning

            Probably because Wherry spends about two minutes on each blog post and many hours on each magazine piece.

          • The Dude

            Canadians are their most poltically apathetic during the summer months. Yet somehow there is this huge difference in polling numbers. Yeah right! Use something called critical thinking skills. This was a blindly partisan poll. Harper will never see 39%. If he couldn't get that against Dion, he will never get that

          • Dakota

            You probably bought a "Vote for Dion" shirt in 2008.

      • http://intensedebate.com/people/Crit_Reasoning Crit_Reasoning

        Apparently not.

    • http://www.intensedebate.com/people/avr avr

      "Truly awful?" Yeah, welcome to the average state of how conservatives have been covered in national media for years. Trends arise, everyone has a say, the conversation moves on.

      (Also, you're taking politics more emotionally and personally than anyone whose name isn't Harper or Ignatieff ought to. Lighten up.)

  • Dakota

    Excuse number 1!

    Next

  • wilson

    Is this how the unelected leader of the official opposition is going to gain the confidence of Canadians, barefaced lies?

    Hands up anyone who does NOT remember:
    MI signed the coalition agreement.
    MI was 100% behind Dion becoming the leader of the coaltion, and seizing the government.
    MI, after throwing Dion under the bus, was quoted numerous times
    ''coalitiion if necessary, but not necessarily coalition''

    Now read this recent quote:

    “…But, let’s be clear, I’ve always spoken of arrangements, not of a coalition.”

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/blogs/spector-visi…

  • Dakota

    He is trying to distance himself from Dion, although as of right now I can't really see much of a differance.

    • wilson

      He appears to want to distance himself from himself.

      'Many good reasons for a coalition': Ignatieff
      By Hubert Bauch,
      Montreal GazetteJanuary 21, 2009
      ….
      "The choice is up to Mr. Harper," Ignatieff said after the meeting.
      "It's up to him to make the right decision and up to me to decide if he made it.
      A coalition is still a possibility . . . a coalition of necessary, but not necessarily, a coalition."

      http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/Many+good+rea…

      • wilson

        "I told the caucus this morning very clearly I am prepared to vote non confidence in this government and I am prepared to enter into a coalition government with our partners if that is what the Governor General asks me to do," Ignatieff said.

        http://www.canada.com/windsorstar/news/story.html…

        'Michael Ignatieff says he is ready to lead a new coalition government unless Stephen Harper's Conservatives scrap their attack ads, drop their partisan edge and present a budget that addresses the needs of Canada's struggling economy'.

        http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/igna…

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/Wascally_Wabbit Wascally_Wabbit

    Aaron – I'm going to give you a Mulligan here – because clearly you wrote this before Nik Nanos issued his latest poll Saturday…which made it very clear that Canadians don't want to give Stephen Harper another chance – and they do want someone to get rid of him.
    Is for Tim Power – takes a lot to knock that Cheshire Cat grin off Tim's face – but if you asked him about the implications on Harper's future as leader of the CPC of that poll – with very simple questions – you'd hear a lot of foot shuffling under the table!

    • wilson

      Are talking about the poll taken July30-Aug2? The 3 week old poll?

      • http://intensedebate.com/people/Wascally_Wabbit Wascally_Wabbit

        The very same.
        You have a valid point there Wilson…maybe they ALL learnt to love our Stephen in the last three weeks…what do you think?
        Now pop back behind your fence like a good boy until Tim the Tool Man calls you again…

  • The Dude

    Harper tried the exact same coalition in 2004 in an attempt to overthrow Paul Martin. It amazes me how conservatives ignore this. No matter how bad Ignatieff may be, anything would be an upgrade over a PM who only knows how to oppose. All he has done well is oppose the oppostion and throw cheap shots. I know this because Harper sends me proof in the mail. What has he actually done? I'd like to hear it from him instead of some miserable right wing bloggers. I only hear about how bad Ignatieff is from Harper. I never har what Harper's actually doing besides what he said he'd never do

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/hollinm hollinm

      You are suggesting you knew the details of how the opposition parties would govern in 2004. That is not true. They simply wrote a letter to the GG and thats it. You have no idea how it would be organized because the GG never responded. Harper would never give the Bloc control over the federal government under any scenario.

    • http://www.intensedebate.com/people/hollinm hollinm

      You are suggesting you knew the details of how the opposition parties would govern in 2004. That is not true. They simply wrote a letter to the GG and thats it. You have no idea how it would be organized because the GG never responded. Harper would never give the Bloc control over the federal government under any scenario.

      Having an aggreement televised with the Libs, NDP and Bloc signing was a sight for all Canadians to ponder. It did not go over well. So you can accuse Harper of wanting to do the same thing but the proof was in the televised appearance for every Canadian to see.

      • http://intensedebate.com/people/Wascally_Wabbit Wascally_Wabbit

        I love to see you folks dancing…pity you wear platform shoes!

      • http://intensedebate.com/people/Thwim Thwim

        Huh. The Liberals and NDP had managed to get a signed document from the Bloc that they would not vote it down in any confidence vote for 2 years.. that strikes me as a lot more definitive way of ensuring that the Bloc would not get control over the federal gov't than trusting Mr. Softwood Harper.

        • http://intensedebate.com/people/hollinm hollinm

          Thwim you are being naive….the Bloc would sit on the opposition benches and while there would be negotiating with the main coalition partners as to what they will and will not support legislation wise. There are more than confidence votes i.e. like normal legislation. If the Bloc didn't agree the legislation would never hit the floor of the House of Commons. That is what I mean that the Bloc would have control of the federal government in the coalition. Quebec doesn't get their way or Duceppe does not believe it is good for Quebec it never sees the light of day no matter whether it is in the best interest of the country.

          • http://intensedebate.com/people/craigola craigola

            Here, hollinm, chew on this: You are suggesting you know the details of how the opposition parties would govern in 2008. That is not true. They simply wrote a letter to the GG and thats it. You have no idea how it would be organized because the GG never responded. Sound familiar?

          • http://intensedebate.com/people/Thwim Thwim

            Ah.. because if the Liberals and NDP didn't toe the line the Bloc would… uh… what, exactly? Threaten to hold a confidence vote that they'd vote in favor of the government on? Hmm.. dire. I can see why the other political parties would be scared of that.

            The thing you're not getting is the suggested grouping from Harper didn't even have THAT much protection from the Bloc.

      • http://intensedebate.com/people/Jack_Mitchell Jack Mitchell

        What rubbish.

      • Jenn

        I know you believe this to the bottom of your toes. But do you have some calculation that will show the rest of us that when Harper "would never do this" in this case, it is different from when Harper "would never do this" in relation to running a deficit?

  • Vancouver Guy

    With Harper sending female soldiers to die for a regime that would starve her if she withheld sex from her husband, he should be tarred and feathered and run out of Ottawa. All this other stuff is just bumpf

    • Dakota

      Canadian women have fought for equal rights and you now want to start taking that away again? Maybe you should go join the Taliban and try fighting some of our Canadian women.

      • Mapsonburt

        Good response to an idiotic post. I think the LPC has recruited a bunch of 14 year olds to run around and put out these nonsensical posts about "running Harper out of office". Shows a fair amount of desparation in that they can't use logic or common sense.

  • The Dude

    This is today as well. I guess Harper's happy-go-lucky charismatic charm isn't getting him his majority after all. Besides, if you can't beat Dion to get a majority, you will never get one.
    OTTAWA – A new poll suggests the Conservatives and Liberals remain locked in a dead heat amid rumblings of a possible fall election.

    The Canadian Press Harris-Decima survey put the parties in a statistical tie, with 32 per cent support for the Liberals and 31 per cent for the Tories.

    The NDP were at 16 per cent, the Greens at 11, and the Bloc Quebecois at nine.

    The numbers have barely budged throughout the summer, a period in which voters are typically disengaged.

    Some Liberals have been pushing for an autumn election while the Tories have been trashing the idea, saying it would hurt the economic recovery.

    The survey of just over 2,000 respondents was conducted Aug. 13-23 and is considered accurate to within 2.2 percentage points 19 times in 20.

  • http://www.infowars.com/ info

    Harper true leader – conservatives forever. I always vote for you.

    • The Dude

      Nice try. Just because the GG never responsed doesn't mean Harper never tried the same thing. Do you have to be a hypocrite to be a conservative? I'm starting to think so. What's clear is that Hypocrite Harper did sign a letter and attempted to unite with the NDP and the bloc in a coaltion. There was intent. That doesn't excuse him. He deserves to go down. Even his own party thinks so. When he loses, he will be forced to step down. You can bet money that they won't rally behind him after 4 attempts at a majority. __

  • molly

    Isn't it just about time for the Conservative-biased Ekos poll to come out and tell us how the crappers have taken a LEAP ahead…..wait for it…..its coming and that of Strategic hateful biased reporting.

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