Who’s hit hardest by the recession: young workers or the old?

Boomers and millennials both feel they’re hardest done by

by Rachel Mendleson on Monday, September 14, 2009 2:40pm - 15 Comments

Young workers, of course, are not the only ones who bought into a vision for the way their lives were supposed to turn out. So did boomers. Just weeks before Brenda Lock, 52, learned that she was to be laid off, she told one of the executives at the telecom company where she’d worked for the past 12 years, “I’ll be here for the next 14½ years if you’ll have me.” She had always assumed that they would want her. “The only way I thought I would ever be let go is to be fired because I did something stupid,” she says. According to Vancouver-based career coach Alanna Fero, a sense of entitlement is just as common among boomers, who entered the workforce before tech support was outsourced to India, and receptionists still opened the mail. They reasoned that if they were good employees and saved accordingly, retirement would look something like a Freedom 55 Financial advertisement, complete with cocktails and little umbrellas. More than any other group, says Fero, “it’s people in their 40s, 50s and 60s who are saying, ‘I worked this hard. I want what my predecessors had at my age.’ ” And not getting it feels like a raw deal.

What may have catalyzed the battle between the oldest and youngest members of the workforce is that shared sense of entitlement. But if younger workers have had to throw that entitlement out the door, so perhaps should older workers. One novel—and controversial—idea that has emerged in the wake of the recession is a proposal forwarded by Boston University economics professor Laurence J. Kotlikoff in a recent New York Times online round table: if older workers are less attractive to rehire because of the high salaries they’re paid, why not pay workers less as they age? Though the concept of rewarding more experienced workers with higher salaries has long been ingrained in the minds of employers, Kotlikoff argues that pay should instead be commensurate with productivity. And since most workers peak at 40, he says pay should gradually decline after that. Not only would commanding a lower salary make it easier for older laid-off workers to get hired, he says it would make it more worthwhile for firms to keep them around in the first place.

On the other side, millennials are already reconsidering the assumptions that defined their generation. According to Toronto Youth Opportunities coordinator Khadija Ellis, young people are realizing that the Internet is no substitute for a “face-to-face meeting.” Pillai says one of the most valuable things he has learned from the employment program he attended is “how to cold call”—a far cry from the kind of social networking to which he is accustomed. For Lock, in some ways, losing her job was what she needed “to get booted in the butt to get out the door and do something different.” Instead of trying for another job in telecom, she’s retraining to become a library technician. More than the books, she says she’s excited about the technology. And, she adds, with a tone that evokes a fickle millennial, “You have to be happy, otherwise it’s just drudgery.”

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*Text revised from original; the original wording suggested that Marianne Neill blamed double-dipping for the fact some teachers were living in poverty. We regret the error. Ms. Neill responds here.

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  • LB_

    I just hope this whole mess ends quickly. I have a mechanical engineering degree and 18 months of field expeirnce and I can't convinve anyone to even give me so much as an interview. It's defintely young workers who are hardest hit by this situation, we have high levles of student debt, few (if any) assets, limited contact networks and little experience to bring to the table.

    I know I'm being hit on both ends I can't get McJob because I have an engineering degree and they know (rightly so) I'll jump ship at the first opportunity. And despite my best efforts and all the cold-calling I can muster I can't get an engineering job either.

  • David Jensen

    Boomers ran up the debt, inflated housing prices to absurd levels so that one parent can't possibly support a family anymore, ran up taxes to pay for their parents, and now they are going to keep all the jobs for their rapidly aging selves. Their medical bills will overwhelm all other government spending, and they were sneaky enough to end the rules on mandatory retirement, knowing full well the Courts, full of old timers, will ensure that no employer dares fire an incompetent 72 year old worker who is well past his prime.
    The most selfish, destructive generation in history just keeps rolling on.

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/Nojo Nojo

      I totally agree. I work at an educational institution and there are at least 30 people "at the top" of the food chain who have access to full pensions and have been here for over 30 years, yet they still insist on taking up space at their cushy high seniority positions while the bottom, educated employees get laid off. They are also the most miserable basement dwelling trolls and no one dares to confront them lest they get their head bitten off for disturbing their little world.

      They hate change, they hate upgrading their skills and they hoard any required information necessary for a job because they feel so self-important and entitled…how dare anyone ask to share or be mentored!!!?? Their lack of ability just might be exposed…

      Even the government is still touting this "chicken little" mentality that the world will cave in when the baby boomers retire and there will be this huge labour shortage. WHAT LABOUR SHORTAGE?

      What they fail to remember is that we'll be holding the key to their hospital care…

    • i smile

      Hi David! Them's the breaks Bud! Suck it up. Self Pity is a killer.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/vernasafford vernasafford

    There is a huge demand in U.S for Medical Assistants. People should get a degree in Medical Assistant and get a job find more at http://bit.ly/440dpp

    • http://www.allgencompanioncare.com Kathy

      The pay is low. It's a tough world out there for CNA's and MA's. The pay is not conducive to the cost of living anywhere in the US. People will pay more for their animals than there family members. It's the truth.

  • quelips

    <More than any other group, says Fero, “it’s people in their 40s, 50s and 60s who are saying, ‘I worked this hard. I want what my predecessors had at my age.’ ” And not getting it feels like a raw deal.>

    What a load of crap. The boomer generation were the luckiest generation to date in history. They had 30 years of increasing salaries, unions to protect them and most jobs came with benefits. Now they want to keep on working because the house, cottage and new car every five years just aren't enough. Give me a break.

    • i smile

      quelips. Ain't it great to live in a free country! Don't worry. I have got a feeling you are going to get yours.

  • http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asp_(reptile) asp

    People, there are plenty of places in the world where the cost of living is a lot less then here. Go retire there.

    Alternately, let's just stop borrowing money for houses, cars, vacations, etc, etc. Then the shrinkage in the money supply here will reduce the cost of living here. Sound like a plan?

  • http://www.merchantcircle.com kevindra

    Young workers between the ages of 25 to 35, because their jobs were the first to go with the option of further training looming above them, which will in turn; if they’re not awear of their finances put them into further debt. My personal problem is with this situation, their’s no ferm ground about the job opportunities and benefits for the future.

  • Risti

    Just as a note, the boomers, by and large, are the parents of the millennials, aren't they? (and also put together the education curriculum and tv/entertainment world of our childhood) Would it be fair to say the idealism of the boomers was the source of the entitlement of the millennials?

    For the record, I'm 25 – I've felt since I was a teen that I was somehow straddling generations. I was laid off from my job a month ago – largely because for the four years prior I had been a fast-tracker who received several promotions, and when I began to struggle in the last six months, I think the company believed I was no longer worth the higher-than-many-of-my-peers salary that I had. I'm still optimistic about finding a new career, but I do find myself rolling my eyes at my parents (both boomers who have gone through major career changes in the past ten years) when they start going on and on about how my knowledge of how to google well or goof off with photoshop should guarantee me a high paid job.

  • FrankTalker

    Boomers may have been hit hardest by the recession (which they created for themselves with credit bubbles), but the millenials are certainly going to be hit hardest by the recovery/stimulus packages that were designed to keep the price bubble inflated and will lead to higher taxes and inflation down the road.

  • hopetoall

    Hi all,

    I totally agree with everyone's comments above. It's suprisingly that so few people are looking at trends and comparisons over time and compared between generations- whether it's cost of living, tax increases, flat wages, etc. When my wife's parents were our age (30's), the the cost of a house was basically a fraction of the annual salary, of one person! Also they could afford a boat, a motorcycle, a plane, credit card interest was tax deductible, commodities like oil, gas and electricity were next to nothing, and taxes were nothing like they are now. If you factor in the cost of an education, we will never be able to send our kids to a 2 community college, let along a four year university (and never, ever to a private school), with increases going at a 10-15% pace. So there is definitely a "screw-job" going on between generations.

  • Ladygirl

    this is funnyy
    :D
    stop streessing and sMILE:)
    kids

    (-8

  • http://www.allgencompanioncare.com Kathy

    If all of the CEO's, CIO's, etc….would quit being so greedy and offshoring jobs there would be more jobs available for everyone. I watch it everyday as companies just want little robots to just carry out there lame ideas without any creative feedback from people that have years of experience and are passionate about their jobs. They want people that won't question or ask "why are we doing this?", so they hire from other countries because they are just damn glad to be on US soil.

    Yes, people may use credit to purchase items but isn't that the american way. If you don't build your credit up then you have a bad credit score. That puts you at a low place in the scheme of life. You are not able to purchase large items, like a house. It's all a scam. We were told when we were young to build our credit portfolio so that we have good credit scores. We can't predict the future. You make a late payment and your interest rate can go from 7% to 29%. Calculate the numbers on an average credit card debt and you will never pay that off.

    I think both generations are feeling it. Younger because they are just now realizing that they are competing with people from other countries that are willing to work for half the amount. Older because they are being replaced by people that are less experienced and willing to just do and not ask. I spent so many years in college and taking critical thinking courses, because mind you they were required. So I had to pay for the class to learn how to be a critical thinker. And then after going out in the workforce and using critical thinking costs you your job.

    Yes smile…Is that funny? I don't think any of this is very funny. But on a light note. Learning that I can transition to different careers is very helpful in these situations and very gratifying as well.

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