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	<title>Comments on: If you were an Irving-employed machinist, you&#039;d be home now: Virtually liveblogging the PM&#039;s Action! Plan update</title>
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		<title>By: BCer in Mtl</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/09/28/if-you-were-an-irving-employed-machinist-youd-be-home-now-virtually-liveblogging-the-pms-action-plan-update/comment-page-1/#comment-179510</link>
		<dc:creator>BCer in Mtl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 02:32:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where&#039;s the kaboom?  There was supposed to be an enourmous kaboom!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where&#039;s the kaboom?  There was supposed to be an enourmous kaboom!</p>
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		<title>By: BCer in Mtl</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/09/28/if-you-were-an-irving-employed-machinist-youd-be-home-now-virtually-liveblogging-the-pms-action-plan-update/comment-page-1/#comment-179509</link>
		<dc:creator>BCer in Mtl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 02:31:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, you&#039;d think John Howard had some equivalent catchphrase</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, you&#039;d think John Howard had some equivalent catchphrase</p>
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		<title>By: Tripper523</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tripper523</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 23:40:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I now work for the Government of Canada (and not the CPC, even though they are the only Party which also &#039;works&#039;) after being displaced out of the manufacturing sector.  I can relate to anyone facing &quot;career change&quot;, especially over the age of 50.  Believe me though, there is &quot;help out there&quot;, even though it&#039;s not easy to alter course after the &quot;bottom drops out&quot; after several years.  We get used to the &quot;status quo&quot;.  The reality is that, unless you&#039;re a self-employed professional, the service industry is the way to go.  We can&#039;t count on those manufacturing jobs to &quot;be there&quot; like they were, especially with the global market place and tides of economic uncertainty, usually stemming from corporate greed and disillusional unions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I now work for the Government of Canada (and not the CPC, even though they are the only Party which also &#039;works&#039;) after being displaced out of the manufacturing sector.  I can relate to anyone facing &quot;career change&quot;, especially over the age of 50.  Believe me though, there is &quot;help out there&quot;, even though it&#039;s not easy to alter course after the &quot;bottom drops out&quot; after several years.  We get used to the &quot;status quo&quot;.  The reality is that, unless you&#039;re a self-employed professional, the service industry is the way to go.  We can&#039;t count on those manufacturing jobs to &quot;be there&quot; like they were, especially with the global market place and tides of economic uncertainty, usually stemming from corporate greed and disillusional unions.</p>
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		<title>By: Jenn_</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/09/28/if-you-were-an-irving-employed-machinist-youd-be-home-now-virtually-liveblogging-the-pms-action-plan-update/comment-page-1/#comment-179507</link>
		<dc:creator>Jenn_</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 23:25:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Typo!  Typo, dammit!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Typo!  Typo, dammit!</p>
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		<title>By: KadyITQ</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/09/28/if-you-were-an-irving-employed-machinist-youd-be-home-now-virtually-liveblogging-the-pms-action-plan-update/comment-page-1/#comment-179498</link>
		<dc:creator>KadyITQ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 22:23:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, according to the most recent date that appears in the text -- on page 96 of the printed version, that is; not sure where that would be online  -- the update went to press after the Ways and Means motion was passed, which would be sometime since September 18th, 2009.

ETA: For what it&#039;s worth, the PDF was acrodistilled on September 26th -- someone was hard at work on a Saturday!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, according to the most recent date that appears in the text &#8212; on page 96 of the printed version, that is; not sure where that would be online  &#8212; the update went to press after the Ways and Means motion was passed, which would be sometime since September 18th, 2009.</p>
<p>ETA: For what it&#8217;s worth, the PDF was acrodistilled on September 26th &#8212; someone was hard at work on a Saturday!</p>
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		<title>By: Ed_Sweeney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed_Sweeney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 21:24:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, but I am surprised no Trekkie has wandered by and corrected you - it&#039;s Star Trek.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, but I am surprised no Trekkie has wandered by and corrected you &#8211; it&#039;s Star Trek.</p>
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		<title>By: kc</title>
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		<dc:creator>kc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 20:47:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are thse ten% only an eastern thing? I &#039;ve seen nary a one out west.  I wonder if this has the potential to become a major scandal down the road when Sreve&#039;s gone and the books are opened?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are thse ten% only an eastern thing? I &#8216;ve seen nary a one out west.  I wonder if this has the potential to become a major scandal down the road when Sreve&#8217;s gone and the books are opened?</p>
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		<title>By: OntarioTown</title>
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		<dc:creator>OntarioTown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 20:03:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please excuse my typos - problem with keyboard and (I hate to admit it) but I cut my hand really badly on a can or pork and beans (puts her head down in shame).

Okay - so, I&#039;ve received approx 27 - I will have to count the bundle I&#039;ve save.  Threw out the first one.

This is from the period mid-Jan to today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please excuse my typos &#8211; problem with keyboard and (I hate to admit it) but I cut my hand really badly on a can or pork and beans (puts her head down in shame).</p>
<p>Okay &#8211; so, I&#039;ve received approx 27 &#8211; I will have to count the bundle I&#039;ve save.  Threw out the first one.</p>
<p>This is from the period mid-Jan to today.</p>
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		<title>By: OntarioTown</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/09/28/if-you-were-an-irving-employed-machinist-youd-be-home-now-virtually-liveblogging-the-pms-action-plan-update/comment-page-1/#comment-179503</link>
		<dc:creator>OntarioTown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 20:01:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Stay the cours&quot;......hmmm....I&#039;ve received my 125th or 26th ten percenter from the Conservatives this year - I&#039;ve saved all but one, but will have to count them again.

Anyway - today&#039;s says &quot;Our Conservative government is cracking down on criminals who:.......&quot;

Shouldn&#039;t that be Government of Canada?

Also, it includes more POLLING on our taxpayer dollars:

Whis on the right track to protect Canadians from crime?

Ignatieff       Harper      Layton       May (what?  They include May this time)?  Polling, polling and  we&#039;re paying for it.

25 or 25 (probably 27) ten percenters - postage paid ($0.54), printing costs - how much have the Cons spent of OUR money on this garbage?

Apparently, some Liberals and NDP ten percenters have gone out as well, but I&#039;ll bet not nearly as much as Harper.  I have not received any from the Libs or NDP so far.

During a recession yet........blowing money like this - unbelievable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Stay the cours&quot;&#8230;&#8230;hmmm&#8230;.I&#039;ve received my 125th or 26th ten percenter from the Conservatives this year &#8211; I&#039;ve saved all but one, but will have to count them again.</p>
<p>Anyway &#8211; today&#039;s says &quot;Our Conservative government is cracking down on criminals who:&#8230;&#8230;.&quot;</p>
<p>Shouldn&#039;t that be Government of Canada?</p>
<p>Also, it includes more POLLING on our taxpayer dollars:</p>
<p>Whis on the right track to protect Canadians from crime?</p>
<p>Ignatieff       Harper      Layton       May (what?  They include May this time)?  Polling, polling and  we&#039;re paying for it.</p>
<p>25 or 25 (probably 27) ten percenters &#8211; postage paid ($0.54), printing costs &#8211; how much have the Cons spent of OUR money on this garbage?</p>
<p>Apparently, some Liberals and NDP ten percenters have gone out as well, but I&#039;ll bet not nearly as much as Harper.  I have not received any from the Libs or NDP so far.</p>
<p>During a recession yet&#8230;&#8230;..blowing money like this &#8211; unbelievable.</p>
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		<title>By: Jenn_</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/09/28/if-you-were-an-irving-employed-machinist-youd-be-home-now-virtually-liveblogging-the-pms-action-plan-update/comment-page-1/#comment-179502</link>
		<dc:creator>Jenn_</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 19:59:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does everybody remember the Star Treck episode where the hated enemy was white on the LEFT side, while the good guys were white on the RIGHT side?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does everybody remember the Star Treck episode where the hated enemy was white on the LEFT side, while the good guys were white on the RIGHT side?</p>
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		<title>By: VinceClortho</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/09/28/if-you-were-an-irving-employed-machinist-youd-be-home-now-virtually-liveblogging-the-pms-action-plan-update/comment-page-1/#comment-179501</link>
		<dc:creator>VinceClortho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 19:33:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You &quot;payz yer muny yuz take yer chances&quot;

It seemed like a good idea when they did it....since they thought it would only get worse.  Ironic isnt it, that the party that extolls the virtues of what government can do might have been counting on what government couldnt do.....

Ok, maybe they just didnt think it through.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You &quot;payz yer muny yuz take yer chances&quot;</p>
<p>It seemed like a good idea when they did it&#8230;.since they thought it would only get worse.  Ironic isnt it, that the party that extolls the virtues of what government can do might have been counting on what government couldnt do&#8230;..</p>
<p>Ok, maybe they just didnt think it through.</p>
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		<title>By: biff</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/09/28/if-you-were-an-irving-employed-machinist-youd-be-home-now-virtually-liveblogging-the-pms-action-plan-update/comment-page-1/#comment-179500</link>
		<dc:creator>biff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 19:16:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Iggy sure must have though that one through.

&quot;Forcing&quot; Harper to take multiple opportunites (and full advantage of having the government purse strings and ability to set the agenda) to &quot;report&quot;/take center stage/get free coverage on how much he&#039;s been doing to help Canadians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Iggy sure must have though that one through.</p>
<p>&quot;Forcing&quot; Harper to take multiple opportunites (and full advantage of having the government purse strings and ability to set the agenda) to &quot;report&quot;/take center stage/get free coverage on how much he&#039;s been doing to help Canadians.</p>
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		<title>By: Thwim</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/09/28/if-you-were-an-irving-employed-machinist-youd-be-home-now-virtually-liveblogging-the-pms-action-plan-update/comment-page-1/#comment-179499</link>
		<dc:creator>Thwim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 19:02:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No. But I&#039;ve been paying attention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No. But I&#039;ve been paying attention.</p>
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		<title>By: Saskboys Homeboy</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/09/28/if-you-were-an-irving-employed-machinist-youd-be-home-now-virtually-liveblogging-the-pms-action-plan-update/comment-page-1/#comment-179497</link>
		<dc:creator>Saskboys Homeboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 18:07:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lets all sing with Kady..............

Michael Grant Ignatieff
mmmm     mmmm        mmmm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lets all sing with Kady&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
<p>Michael Grant Ignatieff<br />
mmmm     mmmm        mmmm</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/09/28/if-you-were-an-irving-employed-machinist-youd-be-home-now-virtually-liveblogging-the-pms-action-plan-update/comment-page-1/#comment-179496</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 17:59:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;He discusses how glad he is to have successfully lured Flaherty into federal politics&quot;

Because Finance Ministers with a documented history of excellence in pretending deficits don&#039;t exist/can be hand waved away  are soooooooooo hard to find....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;He discusses how glad he is to have successfully lured Flaherty into federal politics&quot;</p>
<p>Because Finance Ministers with a documented history of excellence in pretending deficits don&#039;t exist/can be hand waved away  are soooooooooo hard to find&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Thwim</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/09/28/if-you-were-an-irving-employed-machinist-youd-be-home-now-virtually-liveblogging-the-pms-action-plan-update/comment-page-1/#comment-179495</link>
		<dc:creator>Thwim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 17:51:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the files are ready to go, it takes less than a week to get a print order done on a rush job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the files are ready to go, it takes less than a week to get a print order done on a rush job.</p>
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		<title>By: SisyphusThis</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/09/28/if-you-were-an-irving-employed-machinist-youd-be-home-now-virtually-liveblogging-the-pms-action-plan-update/comment-page-1/#comment-179494</link>
		<dc:creator>SisyphusThis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 17:44:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uh, if you&#039;re an Irving-employed machinist there&#039;s a decent chance you might be from
Alberta and going to and fro work from a secured motel on a secured bus.

Labour being mobile and flexible and all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uh, if you&#039;re an Irving-employed machinist there&#039;s a decent chance you might be from<br />
Alberta and going to and fro work from a secured motel on a secured bus.</p>
<p>Labour being mobile and flexible and all.</p>
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		<title>By: psiclone</title>
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		<dc:creator>psiclone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 17:32:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Harpers message is the perfect counterpoint to Iggys&#039; whereas with the newly named LPC, now being confirmed in actuality by Dennis, that it is indeed the LPToronto &#039; we can do better &#039; has fallen on it&#039;s face since all evidence points to the CPC message -&#039; we are doing better and will get betterer &#039;  - poor Iggy! it must suck to be liberal right now. Wait a sec Iggy don&#039;t do it, don&#039;t look at Harper eye to eye. I know you want to as you can feel the rug being pulled from beneath your feet, but you and I know that if you look the next thing you feel will be the poke in the eye - oops too late well at least you gave it the ol college try.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harpers message is the perfect counterpoint to Iggys&#039; whereas with the newly named LPC, now being confirmed in actuality by Dennis, that it is indeed the LPToronto &#039; we can do better &#039; has fallen on it&#039;s face since all evidence points to the CPC message -&#039; we are doing better and will get betterer &#039;  &#8211; poor Iggy! it must suck to be liberal right now. Wait a sec Iggy don&#039;t do it, don&#039;t look at Harper eye to eye. I know you want to as you can feel the rug being pulled from beneath your feet, but you and I know that if you look the next thing you feel will be the poke in the eye &#8211; oops too late well at least you gave it the ol college try.</p>
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		<title>By: SeanStok</title>
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		<dc:creator>SeanStok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 17:30:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Greens are pushing for us to &quot;demand&quot; better, at least in our televised debates.  And the NDP claim we should do, expect and demand *betterer*. That&#039;s just background noise.  Are you a *doer* or an *expecter*?  The choice has never been more stark.  I pray we get it right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Greens are pushing for us to &quot;demand&quot; better, at least in our televised debates.  And the NDP claim we should do, expect and demand *betterer*. That&#039;s just background noise.  Are you a *doer* or an *expecter*?  The choice has never been more stark.  I pray we get it right.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott in Montreal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott in Montreal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 17:29:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes! Was thinking the same myself</description>
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		<title>By: VinceClortho</title>
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		<dc:creator>VinceClortho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 17:29:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So the mystery on the location appears to be little mystery now.   There was a big project they could attach hemselves to, the railyard project....

Why announced so late....dont know.

But it is defintely about getting airtime to assist in the couple of saves and potential takes they have in the region.   Pretty run of the mill as far as updates go...the meats all in the big book they tabled or are tabling.

CBC pointed out, this had been in the works for some time using the printed books as evidence of that.

So here is my question, when were the books produced, when would they have been ordered and what would have happened to them if the government fell 10 days ago, would they have been locked up.

Just curious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So the mystery on the location appears to be little mystery now.   There was a big project they could attach hemselves to, the railyard project&#8230;.</p>
<p>Why announced so late&#8230;.dont know.</p>
<p>But it is defintely about getting airtime to assist in the couple of saves and potential takes they have in the region.   Pretty run of the mill as far as updates go&#8230;the meats all in the big book they tabled or are tabling.</p>
<p>CBC pointed out, this had been in the works for some time using the printed books as evidence of that.</p>
<p>So here is my question, when were the books produced, when would they have been ordered and what would have happened to them if the government fell 10 days ago, would they have been locked up.</p>
<p>Just curious.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard_S_Argent</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/09/28/if-you-were-an-irving-employed-machinist-youd-be-home-now-virtually-liveblogging-the-pms-action-plan-update/comment-page-1/#comment-179489</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard_S_Argent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 17:25:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well at least we&#039;re no longer being implored to &quot;demand&quot; better...so I guess we got that going for us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well at least we&#039;re no longer being implored to &quot;demand&quot; better&#8230;so I guess we got that going for us.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott in Montreal</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/09/28/if-you-were-an-irving-employed-machinist-youd-be-home-now-virtually-liveblogging-the-pms-action-plan-update/comment-page-1/#comment-179488</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott in Montreal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 17:24:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As someone who has been mired in a &quot;pre-employment&quot; phase for the last 8 months now, I can imagine a zillion &quot;projects&quot; in the &quot;pre-construction phase&quot;, including a handful that might evenually some day actually employ someone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As someone who has been mired in a &quot;pre-employment&quot; phase for the last 8 months now, I can imagine a zillion &quot;projects&quot; in the &quot;pre-construction phase&quot;, including a handful that might evenually some day actually employ someone.</p>
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		<title>By: Brad Shaw</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/09/28/if-you-were-an-irving-employed-machinist-youd-be-home-now-virtually-liveblogging-the-pms-action-plan-update/comment-page-1/#comment-179487</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad Shaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 17:21:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the Death of &quot;Stay the Course&quot;:
(Must watch!!!)

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkrucUUNhdA&amp;feature=PlayList&amp;p=0684D400A63B5495&amp;playnext=1&amp;playnext_from=PL&amp;index=5&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkrucUUNhdA&amp;fe...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the Death of &quot;Stay the Course&quot;:<br />
(Must watch!!!)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkrucUUNhdA&amp;feature=PlayList&amp;p=0684D400A63B5495&amp;playnext=1&amp;playnext_from=PL&amp;index=5" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkrucUUNhdA&#038;fe&#8230;</a></p>
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		<title>By: SeanStok</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/09/28/if-you-were-an-irving-employed-machinist-youd-be-home-now-virtually-liveblogging-the-pms-action-plan-update/comment-page-1/#comment-179486</link>
		<dc:creator>SeanStok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 17:20:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;  and Canadians &#8220;expect better&#8221; &quot;

There it is, folks.  The choice is now clear in the next election.

We can *do* better.

or

We can *expect* better.

I fear this may polarize and divide us for generations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;  and Canadians &ldquo;expect better&rdquo; &quot;</p>
<p>There it is, folks.  The choice is now clear in the next election.</p>
<p>We can *do* better.</p>
<p>or</p>
<p>We can *expect* better.</p>
<p>I fear this may polarize and divide us for generations.</p>
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		<title>By: bigcitylib</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/09/28/if-you-were-an-irving-employed-machinist-youd-be-home-now-virtually-liveblogging-the-pms-action-plan-update/comment-page-1/#comment-179485</link>
		<dc:creator>bigcitylib</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 17:17:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thats it?  Where&#039;s the poison pill?  There was supposed to be a humongous poison pill!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thats it?  Where&#039;s the poison pill?  There was supposed to be a humongous poison pill!</p>
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		<title>By: Scott in Montreal</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/09/28/if-you-were-an-irving-employed-machinist-youd-be-home-now-virtually-liveblogging-the-pms-action-plan-update/comment-page-1/#comment-179484</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott in Montreal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 17:15:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Come on! Everything Republican is Good as far as this PM is concerned. If he could, he&#039;d arrange a Katrina-sized hurricane for Montreal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Come on! Everything Republican is Good as far as this PM is concerned. If he could, he&#039;d arrange a Katrina-sized hurricane for Montreal.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard_S_Argent</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/09/28/if-you-were-an-irving-employed-machinist-youd-be-home-now-virtually-liveblogging-the-pms-action-plan-update/comment-page-1/#comment-179483</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard_S_Argent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 17:15:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, remember when Conservative politicians were seen as the credible ones when it came to the economy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, remember when Conservative politicians were seen as the credible ones when it came to the economy?</p>
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		<title>By: Eas Coas</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/09/28/if-you-were-an-irving-employed-machinist-youd-be-home-now-virtually-liveblogging-the-pms-action-plan-update/comment-page-1/#comment-179482</link>
		<dc:creator>Eas Coas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 17:15:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>May I suggest: &quot;Don&#039;t change horses in midstream&quot; (&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wag_the_Dog)&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wag_the_Dog)&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>May I suggest: &quot;Don&#039;t change horses in midstream&quot; (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wag_the_Dog)" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wag_the_Dog" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wag_the_Dog</a>)</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew (not Potter or Coyne)</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/09/28/if-you-were-an-irving-employed-machinist-youd-be-home-now-virtually-liveblogging-the-pms-action-plan-update/comment-page-1/#comment-179479</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew (not Potter or Coyne)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 17:11:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shorter Harper:

Everything&#039;s dandy--except our country is strangely vulnerable to election fever, and with our depressed electoral immune system, getting the politicians out of the bureaucrats&#039; hair for 5 weeks we make Canadians consider immigrating to Myanmar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shorter Harper:</p>
<p>Everything&#8217;s dandy&#8211;except our country is strangely vulnerable to election fever, and with our depressed electoral immune system, getting the politicians out of the bureaucrats&#8217; hair for 5 weeks we make Canadians consider immigrating to Myanmar.</p>
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		<title>By: OntarioTown</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/09/28/if-you-were-an-irving-employed-machinist-youd-be-home-now-virtually-liveblogging-the-pms-action-plan-update/comment-page-1/#comment-179480</link>
		<dc:creator>OntarioTown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 17:09:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is Harper not relaying his report to &quot;parliament&quot; like a real man instead of playing games on our &quot;taxpayer money&quot;?

Is he afraid of parliament?  He&#039;s suppose to report to parliament on these matters -  Mr. Harper, you keep this up and people will think you&#039;re a dictator.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is Harper not relaying his report to &quot;parliament&quot; like a real man instead of playing games on our &quot;taxpayer money&quot;?</p>
<p>Is he afraid of parliament?  He&#039;s suppose to report to parliament on these matters &#8211;  Mr. Harper, you keep this up and people will think you&#039;re a dictator.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/09/28/if-you-were-an-irving-employed-machinist-youd-be-home-now-virtually-liveblogging-the-pms-action-plan-update/comment-page-1/#comment-179481</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 17:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www2.macleans.ca/?p=84296#comment-179481</guid>
		<description>Will this do?

[ &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carry_On_Regardless]&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carry_On_Regardless]&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will this do?</p>
<p>[ <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carry_On_Regardless]&#8221; target=&#8221;_blank&#8221; rel=&#8221;nofollow&#8221;>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carry_On_Regardless</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bonnie N</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/09/28/if-you-were-an-irving-employed-machinist-youd-be-home-now-virtually-liveblogging-the-pms-action-plan-update/comment-page-1/#comment-179478</link>
		<dc:creator>Bonnie N</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 17:06:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stay the Course?

I don&#039;t think using a dubya quote from the Iraq war is the best sound bite for the Harper government. Surely the PMO brain trust could have come up with something less Republican speak.

Just asking...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stay the Course?</p>
<p>I don&#039;t think using a dubya quote from the Iraq war is the best sound bite for the Harper government. Surely the PMO brain trust could have come up with something less Republican speak.</p>
<p>Just asking&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Brad Shaw</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/09/28/if-you-were-an-irving-employed-machinist-youd-be-home-now-virtually-liveblogging-the-pms-action-plan-update/comment-page-1/#comment-179477</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad Shaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 17:03:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Stay the Course&quot;!!!!  Ahhhhhhhhhh.....  Has that phrase not been used to death?  Does Harper really think everyone is SO stupid that they hear that and accept it by thinking *ah, yes, stay the course... that must be the right thing to do.... Nothing... it is so easy!*
Perhaps it will occur to *some* Canadian&#039;s that they have heard that phrase before&quot; &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stay_the_course&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stay_the_course&lt;/a&gt;

I wonder if the implications of its previous usage have been considered by the Harper&#039;s Government and the fun folks over at PMO.

I just want a new catch phrase.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Stay the Course&quot;!!!!  Ahhhhhhhhhh&#8230;..  Has that phrase not been used to death?  Does Harper really think everyone is SO stupid that they hear that and accept it by thinking *ah, yes, stay the course&#8230; that must be the right thing to do&#8230;. Nothing&#8230; it is so easy!*<br />
Perhaps it will occur to *some* Canadian&#039;s that they have heard that phrase before&quot; <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stay_the_course" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stay_the_course</a></p>
<p>I wonder if the implications of its previous usage have been considered by the Harper&#039;s Government and the fun folks over at PMO.</p>
<p>I just want a new catch phrase.</p>
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		<title>By: Newg</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/09/28/if-you-were-an-irving-employed-machinist-youd-be-home-now-virtually-liveblogging-the-pms-action-plan-update/comment-page-1/#comment-179476</link>
		<dc:creator>Newg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 16:56:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It is time to stay stay on track&quot;

Like that little slip  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;It is time to stay stay on track&quot;</p>
<p>Like that little slip  :)</p>
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		<title>By: WDM</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/09/28/if-you-were-an-irving-employed-machinist-youd-be-home-now-virtually-liveblogging-the-pms-action-plan-update/comment-page-1/#comment-179475</link>
		<dc:creator>WDM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 16:51:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any relation to the Elsie Wayne who almost quit the PC party when they dared form a Parliamentary coalition with the DRC?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any relation to the Elsie Wayne who almost quit the PC party when they dared form a Parliamentary coalition with the DRC?</p>
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		<title>By: Riley Hennessey</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/09/28/if-you-were-an-irving-employed-machinist-youd-be-home-now-virtually-liveblogging-the-pms-action-plan-update/comment-page-1/#comment-179474</link>
		<dc:creator>Riley Hennessey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 16:49:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks! Works like a charm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks! Works like a charm.</p>
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		<title>By: Blammo</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/09/28/if-you-were-an-irving-employed-machinist-youd-be-home-now-virtually-liveblogging-the-pms-action-plan-update/comment-page-1/#comment-179473</link>
		<dc:creator>Blammo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 16:49:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CPAC&#039;s live feed is showing some people in suits yelling and holding up piles of paper.  It looks like it&#039;s in a big hall or something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CPAC&#039;s live feed is showing some people in suits yelling and holding up piles of paper.  It looks like it&#039;s in a big hall or something.</p>
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		<title>By: herringchoker</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/09/28/if-you-were-an-irving-employed-machinist-youd-be-home-now-virtually-liveblogging-the-pms-action-plan-update/comment-page-1/#comment-179472</link>
		<dc:creator>herringchoker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 16:46:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Try CPAC Riley.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Try CPAC Riley.</p>
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		<title>By: Riley Hennessey</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/09/28/if-you-were-an-irving-employed-machinist-youd-be-home-now-virtually-liveblogging-the-pms-action-plan-update/comment-page-1/#comment-179471</link>
		<dc:creator>Riley Hennessey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 16:44:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is with the new CTV site charging for live feeds... thank goodness for CBC&#039;s website. Except that its 1:44 Atlantic and still no live feed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is with the new CTV site charging for live feeds&#8230; thank goodness for CBC&#039;s website. Except that its 1:44 Atlantic and still no live feed.</p>
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		<title>By: herringchoker</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/09/28/if-you-were-an-irving-employed-machinist-youd-be-home-now-virtually-liveblogging-the-pms-action-plan-update/comment-page-1/#comment-179470</link>
		<dc:creator>herringchoker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 16:39:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Be sure to hit O&#039;Leary&#039;s before you leave town Kady. It&#039;s the Saint John version of D&#039;arcy McGee&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Be sure to hit O&#039;Leary&#039;s before you leave town Kady. It&#039;s the Saint John version of D&#039;arcy McGee&#039;s.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles H.</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/09/28/if-you-were-an-irving-employed-machinist-youd-be-home-now-virtually-liveblogging-the-pms-action-plan-update/comment-page-1/#comment-179469</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles H.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 16:37:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>15 degrees at the end of September?  In Saint John that&#039;s practically a heat wave!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>15 degrees at the end of September?  In Saint John that&#039;s practically a heat wave!</p>
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		<title>By: VinceClortho</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/09/28/if-you-were-an-irving-employed-machinist-youd-be-home-now-virtually-liveblogging-the-pms-action-plan-update/comment-page-1/#comment-179468</link>
		<dc:creator>VinceClortho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 16:29:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.theweathernetwork.com/weather/canb0088&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.theweathernetwork.com/weather/canb0088&lt;/a&gt;

Get some dry ice, lower the temp in your room and have a fan going....it will be just like you were there</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.theweathernetwork.com/weather/canb0088" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.theweathernetwork.com/weather/canb0088</a></p>
<p>Get some dry ice, lower the temp in your room and have a fan going&#8230;.it will be just like you were there</p>
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