What's new at the public opinion research depository? So glad you asked!

by kadyomalley on Tuesday, October 13, 2009 12:19pm - 68 Comments

Oh, PORRD. What would Hill journalists do during break weeks without you? And look — your latest offerings are downright serendipitously on topic.

Okay, so back in April, at the behest of PCO, Ipsos Reid held a series of focus groups on the economy, particularly the government’s response to the recession, otherwise known as the Economic Action! Plan*.  Although now somewhat dated — I mean, really, early April was so two probation reports ago, and isn’t that whole recession unpleasantness behind us now, barring the sudden eruption of The Election Nobody Wants? — the findings are still worth reading, especially when you consider what the Parliamentary Budget Office had to say last week about the update that the prime minister delivered last month:

Accountability loomed large in the discourse of many around the table. Most were aware that any Government efforts to stimulate the economy would likely result in significant government spending. Although few disagreed with this approach, most were of the view that sufficient checks and balances needed to be in place in order to prevent taxpayer money being squandered. In fact most agree that there is a need for the Government to be transparent, provide regular and timely updates on expenditures, inform Canadians on the intended results, and provide regular feedback on actual outcomes. [...]

Participants expect the Government to be active – there was a strong sense among many that the Government must not only be proactive in terms of coming up with ways to deal with the situation, it must also be proactive in terms of communicating what it is doing. There was some criticism of what some see as reaction as opposed to action. [...]

Participants also expect government to be accountable and transparent, they want to know 1) what is being done, 2) why it is being done and 3) how these actions will improve our collective situation, that is, what are the expected outcomes.

Some comments from participants:

“Personally I don’t think the Government is all too clear with what they are doing with our money. I have no idea where my money is going …”

“The Government is talking but I haven’t actually seen anything…”

“Leadership. Just government standing up and explaining what’s going on, the current situation, plans for the future, accountability, how they are spending the money and results. People know more about what is happening in America than Canada.”

“I wonder if they could come and present something at a grass roots level that everyone could understand.”“Go to the ordinary people and have a news conference like a town hall.”

“Il faut communiquer au quotidien, qu’est-ce qu’on fait pour stimuler l’économie.”

Since then, the government has put out two more updates, but as the PBO noted in its review, “content remains uneven in the GC’s Third Report, notwithstanding the additional data that have become available over the past three months and the additional time available to address previously noted shortcomings.”

In other words, even though a good chunk of the money — as much as 90 percent, according to the government — has already been spent, or at least “committed”, we don’t seem to know much more about where it’s going than we did back in April.

All of which suggests that Gerard Kennedy’s summer project may turn out to have been a smart political investment for the Liberals, provided they can get accountability-minded Canadians to pay attention to the glaring lack of hard data to back up the cheerily-worded press releases that comprise so much of the Action! Plan website, and not the latest crisis behind the scenes at OLO. (Chances of that actually happening? Oh, let’s be generous: 10 to 1.)

Oh, and speaking of the website, it turns out that the $2 million that Finance forked over to Ogilvy Montreal may have been money well spent — or will be, if the latest round of ads manages to boost traffic. Courtesy of Ipsos-Reid — yes, again — the results are in on the first wave of the EAP advertising campaign, and they’re enough to break a nameless PCO web designer’s heart.

In a survey conducted for Finance Canada between April 7th and 16th, the pollster found that, out of the 53 percent of respondents who recalled “seeing, hearing, or reading an advertisement about the Government of Canada’s plans for the Canadian economy … “two in five (39%) started to renovate, fourteen percent spoke with family/friends/others, eight percent searched the Internet for information, and four percent searched for information more generally, or started saving receipts (4%),” but “relatively few (3%) called 1-800-O-CANADA or visited www.actionplan.gc.ca (2%).” ( To be fair, when specifically asked about the website, fully six percent claimed to have dropped by.)

(Note to any advertising/marketing experts out there: Other than poor, ignored actionplan.gc.ca, is this a decent recall/response rate for this kind of campaign?)

Finally, since ITQ is nothing if not fair and balanced when pointing her proxy-finger, she would be remiss if she didn’t mention what the Ipsos focus groups thought about “the media’s role” in the economic downturn:

As in previous groups conducted in January, many participants suggested that much of the economic gloom and doom they had seen, heard and read about of late was likely hyped by the media. In fact, a number of participants expressed concern and in some cases anger with what they see as the media’s unbalanced reporting of economic events. Participants questioned why the media focus seems to be on the minority of Canadians and businesses who are facing difficult times rather than the majority, who are doing ok.

“There are a lot of fears in the media and people stop buying because of fear — they may have money but they stop buying.”

“The media is focusing on the 8% who are unemployed instead of the 92% who are working.”

“Ça va très bien. Les journalistes nous font voir les choses plus noires qu’elles le sont, il y en a 10 % qui sont au chômage mais il y en a 90% qui travaillent!”

There was a sense among some that the media should spend more time looking for glimmers of hope and the silver lining rather than focusing on the daily reports of plant closings, job losses and disappearing retirement savings.

“I prefer to hear that things are going to get better, if you remain upbeat, then generally people will feel better about themselves and their country.”

ITQ isn’t sure if Kevin Page — or most economists — would agree with all of that, but it’s worth keeping in mind, at least. Of course, if we do go off glimmer-hunting and silver-lining-spotting, and the recovery suddenly sputters to a halt, who would get the blame for not warning Canadians?

*According to Ipsos-Reid, focus group participants weren’t overly keen on the name, with “several … indicating that they felt this term was ‘political spin,’ ‘government-speak,’ a ‘buzz word,’ ‘propaganda’ or ‘misleading’”:

Many of these participants responded by expressing a strong desire for specifics: “What is the plan? Let’s see it in writing.” Even among those who did not have a negative reaction to the term itself, there were several who selected words such as ‘reactive’ to express frustration at what they perceived as a delayed response.

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  • http://intensedebate.com/people/john_g2708 john g

    Don't you have a rumour to address?

    Congratulations, by the way.

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/ScottFeschuk ScottFeschuk

      it's not a rumour, john g.

      i've long had proof that she's a witch.

      • http://intensedebate.com/people/john_g2708 john g

        Oh come on. She looks small but I'm sure she weighs more than a duck.

        • http://intensedebate.com/people/s_c_f s_c_f

          That is my all-time favourite Monty Python scene.

          • http://intensedebate.com/people/ScottFeschuk ScottFeschuk

            who are you who's so wise in the ways of science?

          • http://intensedebate.com/people/john_g2708 john g

            Well given your football picking skills I'm just keeping the science at your level.

          • http://intensedebate.com/people/s_c_f s_c_f

            I am Arthur, King of the Britons.

      • Mobius

        She turned me into a newt!

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/s_c_f s_c_f

      Yes, the cat's out of the bag, she's both a witch AND a "Blogster Extraordinaire" (apparently the word blogger is out of fashion).
      http://www.mediacastermagazine.com/issues/ISArtic…

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/TwoYen TwoYen

    Yes, congratulations. The commentators at the blogs at CBC can sometimes get pretty wild.

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/SeanStok SeanStok

      "The commentators at the blogs at CBC can sometimes get pretty wild."

      That might be the understatement of the year.

      • http://intensedebate.com/people/TwoYen TwoYen

        Yeah, I thought it wise not to say what I really thought in case children read this.

  • Mike514

    This Ipsos-Reid focus-group study is very bizarre.

    Things that stood out for me:

    "it must also be proactive in terms of communicating what it is doing."
    Juxtaposed with:
    “relatively few (3%) called 1-800-O-CANADA or visited http://www.actionplan.gc.ca (2%).”

    Set aside your views on the webpage (not enough info, too vague, full of lies, or whatever your criticism may be) for just a minute. If Canadians feel that the government is not communicating its plan well enough, while those very same Canadians can't be bothered to either pick up a phone or browse a website for info that they just 2 minutes ago lamented is unavailable, what the heck do those Canadians expect?

    I get the impression that this sample group (which supposedly represents all Canadians) is just providing generic responses. "Uh… government must be accountable… Accountable!! Tell us what you do with the money!!… What? The web site? Yeah, I knew about it. Did I check it?… Um, well no, but you see, um… there's a good reason for that… ummmm…"

    Conclusion: Canadians want to hear about things that benefit them directly (home reno plan, first-time homebuyer's credit, etc etc), but they don't give a rat's ass about how / why the government spends the rest of the money. Instead, Canadians (or at least the ones in this focus group) are happy mouthing platitudes about "Accountability!!!" with a Capital-A, and "tell us where you spend your money!!!" while not bothering to take the time/effort to check the website or make a phone call.

    These same Canadians probably also lament about how the gov't spends too much advertising about the action plan. So the gov't doesn't provide enough info on its action plan, while at the same time spending too much money advertising its action plan. It's a giant Catch-22!

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/LynnTO LynnTO

      Contradictory findings like this are fairly common. It's not "people are idiots" syndrome as much as it is a lack of associating what they see and hear with the topic being discussed (say, "accountability" or "action plan").

      IMHO, this gap is as much a fault of the individual as it is the advertising (for failing to make the distinction idiot-proof).

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/LynnTO LynnTO

    From what I've seen, 53% awareness is nothing to sneeze at. Those are not atypical numbers for large-scale advertising campaigns at the federal level (IMO, they're on the higher side of typical).

    Careful how you report the actions taken, however, as the total percent taking any action is 18% of the 53% (not 39% "renovating" as implied). The 39% is, from my reading, 39% of 18% of 53%, or about 4% of the overall total. Those numbers are also not surprising, but I'm sure lower than what the government had hoped.

    The test is whether these awareness numbers address the focus group's concerns about communicating what/where/how/why things are happening. If the communications are billed as snowballing or spin or are not being associated with "accountability", it's pretty much a bomb, regardless of the awareness numbers.

    • Stan L

      depends if we are talking aided awareness or not……..seems like it is aided, therefore not great at all when you consider the spend…..in fact, I would be doing some serious thinking at this point…….particularly when you consider the reach and frequency they are getting.

      • Stan L

        Sorry, I am replying to my reply…..given that this is in April, the results are not too bad…….but it begs the question why they needed to spend like they did over the summer hammering the same message when it is clear that in April they knew they weren't resonating….

  • knick

    WOW!
    Blogster Extraordinaire Covers News for CBC in Ottawa – http://www.mediacastermagazine.com/issues/ISArtic…

    Well done, Kady.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/Douglass Douglass

    Congratulations Kady!!

  • knick

    Three words: media, media, media.
    The Star today is bucking the media trend of ignoring real issues for wall-to-wall coverage of such trivia as Harper's musical talents to clear up a few things for its readers.
    "In the years ahead, Canadians will pay a stiff price for this spending in the form of higher borrowing costs, increased taxes or compromised government services."
    http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/federalbudget/…

    • Mike514

      The Star reports as if Canada lives in a bubble. Every country in the west was riding high before the recession, and now finds themselves in deficits for years to come. What the Star doesn't mention is that we're in a much better position than other countries. In fact, it only mentions the worldwide situation once, as if it's a mere detail.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/M_A_N M_A_N

    I forsee my posts here declining drastically.

    Mind you, she gets that much farther away from mark Steyn, so that's gotta be a professional perk.

  • MJ Patchouli

    I'll follow you at the CBC site, Kady, which is just about to get a whole lot better with your insight. Congratulations!

  • an online reader

    Please beware of the National Post . Some of their management don't enjoy the blogs or the CBC or else the NP just wants you to pick up their (CBC) game ?

    " Jonathan Kay: The CBC’s appalling smear on Sarah Palin Imagine my embarrassment, then, when it turned out this week that the flagship newscast on the biggest, deep-pocketeddest, old-fashionedest Canadian media outlet of them all — the taxpayer-funded CBC — got suckered into reporting a story that the blogosphere chewed up, debunked, and spit out two days earlier. "

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/SeanStok SeanStok

    Congratulations Kady!!!!!!!

    I'm going to miss your presence here, particularly with the more interactive nature of the Maclean's commenting boards, but I promise to keep reading you faithfully. Because nobody keeps an eye on the Hill kiddies like you.

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/Jenn_ Jenn_

      I second that.

    • Moebius

      They'll turn her into a Harper-hating socialist in no time.

      • http://intensedebate.com/people/SeanStok SeanStok

        I should think the socialists would be positively over the moon about Comrade Harper these days. In addition to shovelling money out the door with abandon, he's taking economic policy advice from the NDP, for crying out loud. Even die hard commies would be hard pressed to bugger the fiscal health of the federal books so quickly and completely. :)

        But more seriously…
        I've said this before, but one of the things I really like about O'Malley (in addition to her killer wit and prose) is that you really can't divine her political leanings from reading her stuff. She calls BS where she finds it, lauds those who deserve it, but generally provides reports and analysis that are top notch.

        And I don't expect that to change.

  • Holly Stick

    Here is some actual reporting about Conservative government spending in Nova Scotia, where 3 Conservative ridings get much more than the other 8 ridings:

    http://thechronicleherald.ca/Front/1147364.html

    • Holly Stick

      I forgot to mention; hat tip to pogge: http://www.pogge.ca/archives/002484.shtml

      • http://intensedebate.com/people/novagardener novagardener

        And contrarian.ca (Parker Donham) posted on one of his blogs in June or July (can't find it right now) that showed most of the stimulus went to con ridings in NS. What ticks me off about the con stimulus program is the total lack of providing money for long term infrastructure projects. It seems to me its all about building a new sports field, paving a highway, etc. Many of these projects that the cons are promoting under Canada's Action Plan were already in previous budgets, but the cons are including them as part of the so called Stimulus Program. I realize it is almost impossible to find out info from the cons website, but surely the MSM should be held accountable for their lack of investigative journalism. I guess the MSM is all about gotcha journalism. How sad.

    • Justin

      They didn't just get much more individually. The 3 Conservative ridings got more than the other 8 riding COMBINED.

      The Harper government. Putting the "us" in stimulus since 2009.

    • scf

      If you checked all 10 provinces, I'm sure that at least one or two will show Conservative ridings get more, while there may be one or two that show non-Conservative ridings getting more.

      What they really need to do is a Canada-wide comparison to see if there really is anything to make hay about.

      • Scott M.

        They already have, I believe the report was released two or three weeks ago.

        The regional breakdowns are interesting though.

        • http://intensedebate.com/people/SisyphusThis SisyphusThis

          And it only gets better …. er, crazier ….

          http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/opinion/blogs/ra…

          The photo was posted to a local blog in Chester ( the NS Riviera ) but just picked up on today.

          • Holly Stick

            So it seems that once again the Conservative Party is stealing our tax money to advertise itself. Give us our money back, Conservative thieves!

          • knick

            . . .and crazier
            Now the MP (Keddy) is telling CBC that his constituency office cut the cheque and that's why the logo was on it. So, is the stimulus money going out to MP constituency offices for distribution to. . . whatever? Sounding a lot like in-and-out shenanigans.

          • knick

            and,
            that should make it pretty well impossible to track infrastructure spending if that's how they're handling it – transferring it to constituency offices.

          • http://intensedebate.com/people/ChrisInKW ChrisInKW

            $3 billion Conservative slush-fund, hard at work for you–er–them.

            http://www.thestar.com/News/Canada/article/595990

          • Scott M.

            Huh. I thought a constituency office was supposed to be non-partisan and serve all constituents, not just supporters of the party of the MP.

            Do they use the constituency office as their campaign office too?

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/jolyon jolyon

    Good luck with the new job, Kady. I will miss your tremendous coverage of committees and whatnot itq.

  • tobyornottoby

    Kady: Are you going to have a blog at Political Bytes? Somewhere else? Will CBC be allowing comments there? Will you be able to live blog and interact with commenters at CBC?

    Worried in Winnipeg

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/Harbles Harbles

      The CBC would be foolish not to use the full awesomness of our Platinum coiffed, steel thumbed, Jewel encrusted, Pixel Pixie and Live Blogging Diva in her natural element.
      Will the ITQ persona continue?
      I do hope they update the comment system there as even with it's warts the Intense Debate platform here is far more interactive that what CBC has now.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/Harbles Harbles

    Figures as soon as I say something nice about Intensedebate it eats my comment. It may show up again in a while ..if not a redux.

    In response to Worried in Winnipeg.

    The CBC would be foolish not to use the full awesomness of our Platinum coiffed, steel thumbed, Jewel encrusted, Pixel Pixie and Live Blogging Diva in her natural element.
    Will the ITQ persona continue?
    I do hope they update the comment system there as even with it's warts the Intense Debate platform here is far more interactive that what CBC has now.

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/Ed_Sweeney Ed_Sweeney

      Intense debate is intensely buggy. Take a look at SBNation if you want to see how commenting should be supported.

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/Douglass Douglass

      With the draw that ITQ brings, it would be short sighted of them to not update their comments. CBC has a lot of overhaul announcements coming up from what I hear. I hope this becomes one of them.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/Ed_Sweeney Ed_Sweeney

    Congrats O'Malley, well deserved.

  • Ernie

    congrats, Kady. I'll follow you there. When do you start?

  • Bonnie N

    Jeepers Kady
    This is great news but we do hope you continue those witty tags…

    Just kinda of wonder what Macleans will do 'cause on balance you have brought more traffic to this site and while that's a good thing – your departure is a giant hole.

    Will they replace you?

    • Foreigner

      Please, please, please….give Mark Stain a blog. With comments. That he has to read.

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/WDM WDM

      I think we should start a petition to get Andrew Coyne to liveblog the committees.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/WDM WDM

    Just read some of the commentators at CBC. There's more crazies there.

  • Bill D, Cat

    CBC ?

  • Henry Bolingbroke

    Is "commentator" really the word for who we are? I thought I was a lowly "poster."

  • hosertohoosier

    I think this poll highlights why (and yes, the current advertising campaign for the stimulus is partisan) it might make some sense to advertise a stimulus. Highlighting what the government is doing (because we know the media is too busy debating whether the shift in Quebec polls are within the margin of error) may be an important step in restoring consumer confidence (and restoring consumer confidence is important to ending the recession).

    So how do we reconcile the problem that governments often abuse public money by running ad campaigns that implicitly support their partisan position? Is it possible to have a third party government advertiser, with governments controlling the funding, but a third party controlling the content?

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/ChrisInKW ChrisInKW

      It's certainly possible. Ontario did it as soon as the Liberals turfed Mike Harris and his ilk, the peerless proponents of public partisan promotion. Incidentally, these same people now inhabit the PMO and government front bench. Go figure,eh?

      http://www.gov.on.ca/mgs/en/News/STEL02_047090.ht…

    • http://www.intensedebate.com/people/ChrisInKW ChrisInKW

      It's certainly possible. Ontario did it as soon as the Liberals turfed Mike Harris and his ilk, the peerless proponents of public partisan promotion. Incidentally, these same people now inhabit the PMO and government front bench. Go figure, eh?

      ” target=”_blank”>http://www.gov.on.ca/mgs/en/News/STEL02_047090.ht…

    • http://www.intensedebate.com/people/ChrisInKW ChrisInKW

      It's certainly possible. Ontario did it as soon as the Liberals turfed Mike Harris and his ilk, the peerless proponents of public partisan promotion. Incidentally, these same people now inhabit the PMO and government front bench. Go figure, eh?

      http://www.gov.on.ca/mgs/en/News/STEL02_047090.ht…

  • Colin

    Those numbers for the action taken by people who saw the ad are pretty meaningless unless juxtaposed with the equivalent numbers for those who did not see them. The question is not simply what action was taken by those who saw the ad, but what was the effect the ad had on the actions, what difference is there in the numbers. Ideally we would also want to control for other variables – for example are people who know about the program and follow coverage in the media both more likely to remember the ads and also more likely to have searched out more information? I would think so – but perhaps the effect is negligible. Either way, one wouldn't know without doing some sort of analysis.

  • Jim

    And how is a focus group with the purpose of analysing what is arguably propaganda a good use of tax dollars?

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/LynnTO LynnTO

      Because spending a few thousand dollars to make sure enough people will stand behind you when you spend a few billion dollars is called due diligence.

      If it was seen as propaganda, I would think that's something any half-decent facilitator would note to his or her client – even if it doesn't appear in the final report.

      • Jim

        The focus group participants did think it was propaganda. See the last paragraph of the blog post. And I would argue that designing policy around focus group responses isn't the best way to run a country.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/OntarioTown OntarioTown

    congratulations Kady….the rumour is out. You will certainly get a more varied number of responses.

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