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	<title>Comments on: EKOS Weekly: Tories just an armful of oversized novelty cheques away from the big M?(!)</title>
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		<title>By: madeyoulook</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/10/15/ekos-weekly-tories-just-an-armful-of-oversized-novelty-cheques-away-from-the-big-m/comment-page-1/#comment-190103</link>
		<dc:creator>madeyoulook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 18:51:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would happily put them away forever in celebration of an outbreak of permanent fiscal sanity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would happily put them away forever in celebration of an outbreak of permanent fiscal sanity.</p>
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		<title>By: mesa mattress</title>
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		<dc:creator>mesa mattress</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 15:22:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>they don&#039;t hate the tories, they &quot;strongly dislike&quot; them.  big difference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>they don&#039;t hate the tories, they &quot;strongly dislike&quot; them.  big difference.</p>
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		<title>By: SeanStok</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/10/15/ekos-weekly-tories-just-an-armful-of-oversized-novelty-cheques-away-from-the-big-m/comment-page-1/#comment-190101</link>
		<dc:creator>SeanStok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 13:10:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But when else do you get the chance to brandish your novelty torches and pitchforks?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But when else do you get the chance to brandish your novelty torches and pitchforks?</p>
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		<title>By: madeyoulook</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/10/15/ekos-weekly-tories-just-an-armful-of-oversized-novelty-cheques-away-from-the-big-m/comment-page-1/#comment-190100</link>
		<dc:creator>madeyoulook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 01:54:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, YooHoo!  You can put me down as one who can resist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, YooHoo!  You can put me down as one who can resist.</p>
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		<title>By: Tripper523</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/10/15/ekos-weekly-tories-just-an-armful-of-oversized-novelty-cheques-away-from-the-big-m/comment-page-2/#comment-190099</link>
		<dc:creator>Tripper523</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 23:39:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Still a significant chunk of &quot;undecided&quot; voters.  If some of them make up their minds, it can make or break a frontrunner&#039;s fortunes.  I agree that Mr. Dion&#039;s successor, Mikhail Igneutiev, has made no uptick whatsoever on the LPC&#039;s popularity chart.  They truly have fallen out of favour with the Canadian voting public, for sins past, an undefined present, and an apprehensive future.  They have provided no clear alternative to the steadily flourishing CPC, which may convince more of the current undecided to put PM Harper&#039;s administration decidedly over the Big M threshold.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Still a significant chunk of &quot;undecided&quot; voters.  If some of them make up their minds, it can make or break a frontrunner&#039;s fortunes.  I agree that Mr. Dion&#039;s successor, Mikhail Igneutiev, has made no uptick whatsoever on the LPC&#039;s popularity chart.  They truly have fallen out of favour with the Canadian voting public, for sins past, an undefined present, and an apprehensive future.  They have provided no clear alternative to the steadily flourishing CPC, which may convince more of the current undecided to put PM Harper&#039;s administration decidedly over the Big M threshold.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed_Sweeney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed_Sweeney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 21:47:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BLOC numbers are given as prov %. It makes sense. I think there is a disclaimer hanging around somewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BLOC numbers are given as prov %. It makes sense. I think there is a disclaimer hanging around somewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed_Sweeney</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/10/15/ekos-weekly-tories-just-an-armful-of-oversized-novelty-cheques-away-from-the-big-m/comment-page-2/#comment-190097</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed_Sweeney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 21:45:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its the CBC. I don&#039;t think she is doing it for fortune&#039;s sake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its the CBC. I don&#039;t think she is doing it for fortune&#039;s sake.</p>
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		<title>By: psiclone</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/10/15/ekos-weekly-tories-just-an-armful-of-oversized-novelty-cheques-away-from-the-big-m/comment-page-1/#comment-190096</link>
		<dc:creator>psiclone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 21:35:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I FOR ONE WILL MISS KADY!!!! - THEN AGAIN I WILL BE POSTING ON CBC SO ALL IS WELL!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I FOR ONE WILL MISS KADY!!!! &#8211; THEN AGAIN I WILL BE POSTING ON CBC SO ALL IS WELL!</p>
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		<title>By: Douglass</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/10/15/ekos-weekly-tories-just-an-armful-of-oversized-novelty-cheques-away-from-the-big-m/comment-page-1/#comment-190095</link>
		<dc:creator>Douglass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 21:30:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed. They are more of a Progressive Conservative party. Man, I miss the Progressive Conservatives (Federally speaking)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed. They are more of a Progressive Conservative party. Man, I miss the Progressive Conservatives (Federally speaking)</p>
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		<title>By: Thwim</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/10/15/ekos-weekly-tories-just-an-armful-of-oversized-novelty-cheques-away-from-the-big-m/comment-page-1/#comment-190094</link>
		<dc:creator>Thwim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 21:16:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s nonsense in that the government has grown since Harper has joined. So if anything, these polls are saying that Harper took it the correct way, and that Canadians prefer bigger government, so long as they&#039;re lied to about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#039;s nonsense in that the government has grown since Harper has joined. So if anything, these polls are saying that Harper took it the correct way, and that Canadians prefer bigger government, so long as they&#039;re lied to about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Dick Richards</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/10/15/ekos-weekly-tories-just-an-armful-of-oversized-novelty-cheques-away-from-the-big-m/comment-page-2/#comment-190093</link>
		<dc:creator>Dick Richards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 21:07:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By: The Canadian Press
Date: Thursday Oct. 15, 2009 1:40 PM ET

OTTAWA &#8212; A new poll suggests the federal Conservatives continue to hold a healthy lead over the Liberals, but remain well shy of majority territory.

The Canadian Press Harris-Decima survey put the Tories at 35 per cent nationally, compared with 28 per cent for the Liberals.

The NDP was at 15 per cent, while the Greens and Bloc Quebecois were tied at 10 per cent.

The Conservatives jumped to a four-point lead in Ontario with 40 per cent support, and they continued to dominate in the West.

However, the Tories trailed badly in Quebec at just 15 per cent -- nine points back of the Liberals and 26 points behind the Bloc.

The Liberals were ahead in only one region -- Atlantic Canada -- where they led the Tories by three percentage points and the NDP by five.

The telephone poll of just over 2,000 people was conducted Oct. 1-12 and has a margin of error of plus or minus 2.2 percentage points, 19 times out of 20.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By: The Canadian Press<br />
Date: Thursday Oct. 15, 2009 1:40 PM ET</p>
<p>OTTAWA &mdash; A new poll suggests the federal Conservatives continue to hold a healthy lead over the Liberals, but remain well shy of majority territory.</p>
<p>The Canadian Press Harris-Decima survey put the Tories at 35 per cent nationally, compared with 28 per cent for the Liberals.</p>
<p>The NDP was at 15 per cent, while the Greens and Bloc Quebecois were tied at 10 per cent.</p>
<p>The Conservatives jumped to a four-point lead in Ontario with 40 per cent support, and they continued to dominate in the West.</p>
<p>However, the Tories trailed badly in Quebec at just 15 per cent &#8212; nine points back of the Liberals and 26 points behind the Bloc.</p>
<p>The Liberals were ahead in only one region &#8212; Atlantic Canada &#8212; where they led the Tories by three percentage points and the NDP by five.</p>
<p>The telephone poll of just over 2,000 people was conducted Oct. 1-12 and has a margin of error of plus or minus 2.2 percentage points, 19 times out of 20.</p>
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		<title>By: Bernie Smith</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/10/15/ekos-weekly-tories-just-an-armful-of-oversized-novelty-cheques-away-from-the-big-m/comment-page-2/#comment-190092</link>
		<dc:creator>Bernie Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 20:43:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When you add the percentages in the provinces or regions categories listed they each total 100% as expected.
When you add the percentages in the national category they total 145% ??
Is this what former PM John Diefenbaker meant when he made that comment about polls and dogs , I wonder ??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When you add the percentages in the provinces or regions categories listed they each total 100% as expected.<br />
When you add the percentages in the national category they total 145% ??<br />
Is this what former PM John Diefenbaker meant when he made that comment about polls and dogs , I wonder ??</p>
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		<title>By: Earl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Earl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 20:15:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the analysis Kady.  Good fortune in your new position.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the analysis Kady.  Good fortune in your new position.</p>
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		<title>By: TwoYen</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/10/15/ekos-weekly-tories-just-an-armful-of-oversized-novelty-cheques-away-from-the-big-m/comment-page-1/#comment-190090</link>
		<dc:creator>TwoYen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 19:30:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those numbers are interesting, but I stilll think many people who tell pollsters that they support the Green Party are just parking their votes.

While I accept of course that there are some genuine supporters of the Green Party, my own albeit unscientific experience in talking to people, especially younger people, is that many support the Green Party because it is &quot;not one of the traditional parties&quot;. Sometimes it is because of a general sense of support for the environment (whatever that means in practical terms), but just as often it is because of frustration with the existing status quo. These are also people least likely to vote.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those numbers are interesting, but I stilll think many people who tell pollsters that they support the Green Party are just parking their votes.</p>
<p>While I accept of course that there are some genuine supporters of the Green Party, my own albeit unscientific experience in talking to people, especially younger people, is that many support the Green Party because it is &quot;not one of the traditional parties&quot;. Sometimes it is because of a general sense of support for the environment (whatever that means in practical terms), but just as often it is because of frustration with the existing status quo. These are also people least likely to vote.</p>
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		<title>By: parnel</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/10/15/ekos-weekly-tories-just-an-armful-of-oversized-novelty-cheques-away-from-the-big-m/comment-page-1/#comment-190088</link>
		<dc:creator>parnel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 19:23:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The latest Decima poll has them at 35% to 28%. Put your money up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The latest Decima poll has them at 35% to 28%. Put your money up.</p>
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		<title>By: parnel</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/10/15/ekos-weekly-tories-just-an-armful-of-oversized-novelty-cheques-away-from-the-big-m/comment-page-1/#comment-190089</link>
		<dc:creator>parnel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 19:22:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How much the latest Decima poll has them at 35% to 28%. Put your money up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How much the latest Decima poll has them at 35% to 28%. Put your money up.</p>
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		<title>By: parnel</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/10/15/ekos-weekly-tories-just-an-armful-of-oversized-novelty-cheques-away-from-the-big-m/comment-page-1/#comment-190087</link>
		<dc:creator>parnel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 19:20:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the newest poll out shows the libs at 28% and the reformatories at 35%. i think thngs will start to go back to normal from here on in and we&#039;ll soon see how much damage the reformatories have done to themselves with the check stupidity.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNe...&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNe...&lt;/a&gt;
The Canadian Press Harris-Decima survey put the Tories at 35 per cent nationally, compared with 28 per cent for the Liberals.

The NDP was at 15 per cent, while the Greens and Bloc Quebecois were tied at 10 per cent.

The Conservatives jumped to a four-point lead in Ontario with 40 per cent support, and they continued to dominate in the West.

However, the Tories trailed badly in Quebec at just 15 per cent -- nine points back of the Liberals and 26 points behind the Bloc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the newest poll out shows the libs at 28% and the reformatories at 35%. i think thngs will start to go back to normal from here on in and we&#039;ll soon see how much damage the reformatories have done to themselves with the check stupidity.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNe..." target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNe&#8230;</a><br />
The Canadian Press Harris-Decima survey put the Tories at 35 per cent nationally, compared with 28 per cent for the Liberals.</p>
<p>The NDP was at 15 per cent, while the Greens and Bloc Quebecois were tied at 10 per cent.</p>
<p>The Conservatives jumped to a four-point lead in Ontario with 40 per cent support, and they continued to dominate in the West.</p>
<p>However, the Tories trailed badly in Quebec at just 15 per cent &#8212; nine points back of the Liberals and 26 points behind the Bloc</p>
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		<title>By: KadyITQ</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/10/15/ekos-weekly-tories-just-an-armful-of-oversized-novelty-cheques-away-from-the-big-m/comment-page-1/#comment-190046</link>
		<dc:creator>KadyITQ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 19:03:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, that&#039;s the second reference I&#039;ve seen to a day by day breakdown. Help a poor decimal-point-calculation-blinded girl out and point her to the page where that data appears?

ETA: Never mind, found it! It was in the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cbc.ca/news/pdf/ekos-data-tables-october15.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;CBC tables&lt;/a&gt;, not the EKOS file.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, that&#8217;s the second reference I&#8217;ve seen to a day by day breakdown. Help a poor decimal-point-calculation-blinded girl out and point her to the page where that data appears?</p>
<p>ETA: Never mind, found it! It was in the <a href="http://www.cbc.ca/news/pdf/ekos-data-tables-october15.pdf" rel="nofollow">CBC tables</a>, not the EKOS file.</p>
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/10/15/ekos-weekly-tories-just-an-armful-of-oversized-novelty-cheques-away-from-the-big-m/comment-page-1/#comment-190086</link>
		<dc:creator>Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 18:55:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More like 7, according to Decima. Again, a very large sample with a low MOE. &lt;a  href=&quot;http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20091015/tories_liberals_091015/20091015?hub=QPeriod&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Link. &lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More like 7, according to Decima. Again, a very large sample with a low MOE. &lt;a  href=&quot;<a href="http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20091015/tories_liberals_091015/20091015?hub=QPeriod&quot;&gt;" rel="nofollow">http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20091015/tories_liberals_091015/20091015?hub=QPeriod&quot;&gt;</a><b>Link. </b></p>
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/10/15/ekos-weekly-tories-just-an-armful-of-oversized-novelty-cheques-away-from-the-big-m/comment-page-1/#comment-190085</link>
		<dc:creator>Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 18:41:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Try that again:: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20091015/tories_liberals_091015/20091015?hub=QPeriod&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Decima -- 2000 polled Oct 1-12 -- Harper 7-point lead.

It&#039;ll be back to dead even before the month&#039;s out.
&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Try that again:: <a href="http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20091015/tories_liberals_091015/20091015?hub=QPeriod" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Decima &#8212; 2000 polled Oct 1-12 &#8212; Harper 7-point lead.</p>
<p>It&#039;ll be back to dead even before the month&#039;s out.<br />
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 18:40:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a = href=&quot;http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20091015/tories_liberals_091015/20091015?hub=QPeriod&quot;&gt;Decima -- 2000 polled Oct 1-12 -- Harper 7-point lead.

It&#039;ll be back to dead even before the month&#039;s out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&lt;a = href=&quot;<a href="http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20091015/tories_liberals_091015/20091015?hub=QPeriod&quot;&gt;Decima" rel="nofollow">http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20091015/tories_liberals_091015/20091015?hub=QPeriod&quot;&gt;Decima</a> &#8212; 2000 polled Oct 1-12 &#8212; Harper 7-point lead.</p>
<p>It&#039;ll be back to dead even before the month&#039;s out.</p>
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		<title>By: Dick Richards</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/10/15/ekos-weekly-tories-just-an-armful-of-oversized-novelty-cheques-away-from-the-big-m/comment-page-1/#comment-190083</link>
		<dc:creator>Dick Richards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 17:50:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The BC liberal are much closer to the Federal Liberals than the Reform party that now controls the Conservatives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The BC liberal are much closer to the Federal Liberals than the Reform party that now controls the Conservatives.</p>
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		<title>By: Calgary Junkie</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/10/15/ekos-weekly-tories-just-an-armful-of-oversized-novelty-cheques-away-from-the-big-m/comment-page-1/#comment-190082</link>
		<dc:creator>Calgary Junkie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 17:24:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More and more voters are coming to the same realization that Conservaitve partisans made long ago--Ignatieff is an empty suit. His speeches haven&#039;t changed much since he became leader, mostly boilerplate tripe.  He has a weak grasp of the federal files.  His criticisms of Harper are mostly nitpicking about process--he&#039;s not spending enough, he&#039;s spending too slowly, the HST can be fine-tuned, and the like.

Bottom line is that he&#039;s still auditioning for the role of Opposition Leader. His advisors still haven&#039;t figured out that he SHOULD be auditioning for the role of PM. So, for example, leave the &quot;bodybag&quot; criticisms to the appropriate critics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More and more voters are coming to the same realization that Conservaitve partisans made long ago&#8211;Ignatieff is an empty suit. His speeches haven&#039;t changed much since he became leader, mostly boilerplate tripe.  He has a weak grasp of the federal files.  His criticisms of Harper are mostly nitpicking about process&#8211;he&#039;s not spending enough, he&#039;s spending too slowly, the HST can be fine-tuned, and the like.</p>
<p>Bottom line is that he&#039;s still auditioning for the role of Opposition Leader. His advisors still haven&#039;t figured out that he SHOULD be auditioning for the role of PM. So, for example, leave the &quot;bodybag&quot; criticisms to the appropriate critics.</p>
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		<title>By: DroppingBY</title>
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		<dc:creator>DroppingBY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 17:23:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m thinking that, traditionally, most novelty cheque politicking was designed to appeal more to elites (businesses, local officials, etc.) than retail voters, since elites are usually the direct beneficiaries of, and boosters of, targeted politician-delivered taxpayer largesse.

Perhaps in days of old, the prospect of being given government money caused these folks to donate more generously to campaigns, and to work harder to get their servants and workers out to vote.

Now that elites are limited in what they can contribute (without getting caught), one wonders if the whole novelty cheque business might be en route to becoming an obsolete part of our political-electoral culture.

Or is there some other reason for politicians to suck up to elites with novelty cheques, now that they can&#039;t deliver much by way of cash for elections?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;m thinking that, traditionally, most novelty cheque politicking was designed to appeal more to elites (businesses, local officials, etc.) than retail voters, since elites are usually the direct beneficiaries of, and boosters of, targeted politician-delivered taxpayer largesse.</p>
<p>Perhaps in days of old, the prospect of being given government money caused these folks to donate more generously to campaigns, and to work harder to get their servants and workers out to vote.</p>
<p>Now that elites are limited in what they can contribute (without getting caught), one wonders if the whole novelty cheque business might be en route to becoming an obsolete part of our political-electoral culture.</p>
<p>Or is there some other reason for politicians to suck up to elites with novelty cheques, now that they can&#039;t deliver much by way of cash for elections?</p>
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		<title>By: Dakota</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/10/15/ekos-weekly-tories-just-an-armful-of-oversized-novelty-cheques-away-from-the-big-m/comment-page-1/#comment-190080</link>
		<dc:creator>Dakota</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 17:20:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No hiding under false names for me kfc...or is it krp? maybe kgb? Wait....kcm!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No hiding under false names for me kfc&#8230;or is it krp? maybe kgb? Wait&#8230;.kcm!</p>
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		<title>By: Gordo05</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/10/15/ekos-weekly-tories-just-an-armful-of-oversized-novelty-cheques-away-from-the-big-m/comment-page-1/#comment-190079</link>
		<dc:creator>Gordo05</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 17:19:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good point about the Olympic bill coming through.  Has there ever been an Olympic Games that came in on (or under) budget?  I think Montreal is still paying for the Big O.   The big issue from this poll (as another poster has pointed out) is the growing Undecided.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point about the Olympic bill coming through.  Has there ever been an Olympic Games that came in on (or under) budget?  I think Montreal is still paying for the Big O.   The big issue from this poll (as another poster has pointed out) is the growing Undecided.</p>
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		<title>By: Dakota</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/10/15/ekos-weekly-tories-just-an-armful-of-oversized-novelty-cheques-away-from-the-big-m/comment-page-1/#comment-190078</link>
		<dc:creator>Dakota</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 17:18:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since you are a fan of specific days, did you look at Oct. 9? A 25 point lead for the Conservatives! WOW!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since you are a fan of specific days, did you look at Oct. 9? A 25 point lead for the Conservatives! WOW!</p>
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		<title>By: Douglass</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/10/15/ekos-weekly-tories-just-an-armful-of-oversized-novelty-cheques-away-from-the-big-m/comment-page-1/#comment-190077</link>
		<dc:creator>Douglass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 16:47:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Thank-you for pointing this out. The BC Libs are much closer to Conservatives or Social Credit in policy/style than anything resembling the federal Liberals.&quot;

Absolutely! The federal conservatives even help out the provincial libs come election time. At least, most of their volunteers are the same.

I&#039;d be a-okay with the provincial Libs changing their name to better reflect their politics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Thank-you for pointing this out. The BC Libs are much closer to Conservatives or Social Credit in policy/style than anything resembling the federal Liberals.&quot;</p>
<p>Absolutely! The federal conservatives even help out the provincial libs come election time. At least, most of their volunteers are the same.</p>
<p>I&#039;d be a-okay with the provincial Libs changing their name to better reflect their politics.</p>
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		<title>By: tigerinexile</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/10/15/ekos-weekly-tories-just-an-armful-of-oversized-novelty-cheques-away-from-the-big-m/comment-page-1/#comment-190076</link>
		<dc:creator>tigerinexile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 16:45:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WE&#039;LL BE HEARTBROKEN IF YOU DON&#039;T CONTINUE TO DO POLLING POSTS OVER AT THE MOTHER CORP!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WE&#039;LL BE HEARTBROKEN IF YOU DON&#039;T CONTINUE TO DO POLLING POSTS OVER AT THE MOTHER CORP!!</p>
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		<title>By: tigerinexile</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/10/15/ekos-weekly-tories-just-an-armful-of-oversized-novelty-cheques-away-from-the-big-m/comment-page-1/#comment-190075</link>
		<dc:creator>tigerinexile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 16:44:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WE&#039;LL BE HEARTBROKEN IF YOU DON&#039;T CONTINUE DOING POLLING POSTS OVER AT THE MOTHER CORP!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WE&#039;LL BE HEARTBROKEN IF YOU DON&#039;T CONTINUE DOING POLLING POSTS OVER AT THE MOTHER CORP!!</p>
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/10/15/ekos-weekly-tories-just-an-armful-of-oversized-novelty-cheques-away-from-the-big-m/comment-page-1/#comment-190074</link>
		<dc:creator>Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 16:30:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, and with only a 3% moe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, and with only a 3% moe.</p>
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		<title>By: KadyITQ</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/10/15/ekos-weekly-tories-just-an-armful-of-oversized-novelty-cheques-away-from-the-big-m/comment-page-1/#comment-190073</link>
		<dc:creator>KadyITQ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 16:24:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I AM LEARNING TO ENJOY DOING MATH IN MY HEAD BEFORE BREAKFAST!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I AM LEARNING TO ENJOY DOING MATH IN MY HEAD BEFORE BREAKFAST!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Moffatt</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/10/15/ekos-weekly-tories-just-an-armful-of-oversized-novelty-cheques-away-from-the-big-m/comment-page-1/#comment-190072</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Moffatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 16:16:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fair enough.

I still think everybody, particularly the media has been missing the point the last 5 years.  Now with a unified Conservative Party, things are returning to their historical norms in English Canada.  For all the talk of leadership problems, the Liberals aren&#039;t really performing any worse in English Canada than they did under Pearson, Trudeau (except for &#039;68) or Turner.

Not that it&#039;s a good thing, mind you - they&#039;re not winning practically every seat in Quebec like they did under Trudeau.  But we need to stop treating this period in our history as some kind of abberation caused by weak Liberal leadership.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fair enough.</p>
<p>I still think everybody, particularly the media has been missing the point the last 5 years.  Now with a unified Conservative Party, things are returning to their historical norms in English Canada.  For all the talk of leadership problems, the Liberals aren&#039;t really performing any worse in English Canada than they did under Pearson, Trudeau (except for &#039;68) or Turner.</p>
<p>Not that it&#039;s a good thing, mind you &#8211; they&#039;re not winning practically every seat in Quebec like they did under Trudeau.  But we need to stop treating this period in our history as some kind of abberation caused by weak Liberal leadership.</p>
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		<title>By: an online reader</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/10/15/ekos-weekly-tories-just-an-armful-of-oversized-novelty-cheques-away-from-the-big-m/comment-page-1/#comment-190071</link>
		<dc:creator>an online reader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 16:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Polls are a snapshot of what people think ? Some people here could look at Harper&#039;s proformance since Sponsorship or watch a crooked card game and come up with cool  , poised   , a tactician , consistant , a real leader , economist etc .

    Marked cards , signals to cohorts etc are mere partisan sniping . Lets have an election on the issues if Iggy can find them .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Polls are a snapshot of what people think ? Some people here could look at Harper&#039;s proformance since Sponsorship or watch a crooked card game and come up with cool  , poised   , a tactician , consistant , a real leader , economist etc .</p>
<p>    Marked cards , signals to cohorts etc are mere partisan sniping . Lets have an election on the issues if Iggy can find them .</p>
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		<title>By: tigerinexile</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/10/15/ekos-weekly-tories-just-an-armful-of-oversized-novelty-cheques-away-from-the-big-m/comment-page-1/#comment-190070</link>
		<dc:creator>tigerinexile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 16:11:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As the Liberals want more than, say, 77 seats, it&#039;s not great news for them...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As the Liberals want more than, say, 77 seats, it&#039;s not great news for them&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: kcm</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/10/15/ekos-weekly-tories-just-an-armful-of-oversized-novelty-cheques-away-from-the-big-m/comment-page-1/#comment-190069</link>
		<dc:creator>kcm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 16:09:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wonder why Baird would blog under a name like Dakota?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wonder why Baird would blog under a name like Dakota?</p>
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		<title>By: tigerinexile</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/10/15/ekos-weekly-tories-just-an-armful-of-oversized-novelty-cheques-away-from-the-big-m/comment-page-1/#comment-190068</link>
		<dc:creator>tigerinexile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 16:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WE ENJOY HORSE RACES!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WE ENJOY HORSE RACES!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Ed_Sweeney</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/10/15/ekos-weekly-tories-just-an-armful-of-oversized-novelty-cheques-away-from-the-big-m/comment-page-1/#comment-190067</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed_Sweeney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 16:06:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only one poll result this week? Busy negotiating your cell phone budget perhaps? CBC does support RIM products right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only one poll result this week? Busy negotiating your cell phone budget perhaps? CBC does support RIM products right?</p>
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		<title>By: KadyITQ</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/10/15/ekos-weekly-tories-just-an-armful-of-oversized-novelty-cheques-away-from-the-big-m/comment-page-1/#comment-190066</link>
		<dc:creator>KadyITQ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 16:05:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, the Green numbers, particularly in BC, are intriguing -- they&#039;re closing in on the NDP in some regions, and are actually ahead in Ottawa, Calgary and Quebec, although the margin of error is vast, and the difference between the two small.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, the Green numbers, particularly in BC, are intriguing &#8212; they&#039;re closing in on the NDP in some regions, and are actually ahead in Ottawa, Calgary and Quebec, although the margin of error is vast, and the difference between the two small.</p>
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		<title>By: Dakota</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/10/15/ekos-weekly-tories-just-an-armful-of-oversized-novelty-cheques-away-from-the-big-m/comment-page-1/#comment-190065</link>
		<dc:creator>Dakota</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 16:05:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WHY ARE WE SHOUTING!

LOUD NOISES!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WHY ARE WE SHOUTING!</p>
<p>LOUD NOISES!</p>
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		<title>By: KadyITQ</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/10/15/ekos-weekly-tories-just-an-armful-of-oversized-novelty-cheques-away-from-the-big-m/comment-page-1/#comment-190064</link>
		<dc:creator>KadyITQ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 16:02:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The movement between last week and this is within the MoE, yes -- that&#039;s why I noted that in my post, so there&#039;s no need to YELL AT ME TO MAKE YOUR POINT. But it&#039;s impossible to deny the trend over the last three or four polls, which is well outside the MoE, at least nationally, and in most cases, regionally as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The movement between last week and this is within the MoE, yes &#8212; that&#039;s why I noted that in my post, so there&#039;s no need to YELL AT ME TO MAKE YOUR POINT. But it&#039;s impossible to deny the trend over the last three or four polls, which is well outside the MoE, at least nationally, and in most cases, regionally as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Moffatt</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/10/15/ekos-weekly-tories-just-an-armful-of-oversized-novelty-cheques-away-from-the-big-m/comment-page-1/#comment-190063</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Moffatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 15:55:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The NDP and Liberals are running neck and neck in the West already. Will this trend spread to Ontario?

Anyway you look at it, it&#039;s bad news for Libs. &quot;

How is that bad news for the Liberals?  The Liberals finished well behind the NDP in all 4 Canadian provinces last time.  Same with a lot of portions of Ontario as well (I suspect if you take 416/905 out of the mix, the NDP received more votes than the Liberals, though I haven&#039;t done the math myself)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;The NDP and Liberals are running neck and neck in the West already. Will this trend spread to Ontario?</p>
<p>Anyway you look at it, it&#039;s bad news for Libs. &quot;</p>
<p>How is that bad news for the Liberals?  The Liberals finished well behind the NDP in all 4 Canadian provinces last time.  Same with a lot of portions of Ontario as well (I suspect if you take 416/905 out of the mix, the NDP received more votes than the Liberals, though I haven&#039;t done the math myself)</p>
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		<title>By: KadyITQ</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/10/15/ekos-weekly-tories-just-an-armful-of-oversized-novelty-cheques-away-from-the-big-m/comment-page-1/#comment-190062</link>
		<dc:creator>KadyITQ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 15:54:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, every polling firm has their own way of handling the undecideds, as far as presenting that data, so it&#039;s tricky to determine whether this is a blip, as far as the rising number, or indicative of a real trend. As far as I know, the conventional wisdom is that Undecides are more likely to be non-voters, and those that do end up deciding usually follow the same overall pattern of the voting population as a whole, which makes the number largely meaningless as far as projecting results from the given data.

This week&#039;s numbers leapt out at me because it was considerably higher than it has been for the last few months -- I&#039;d have to go back and check, but it may be at its highest since EKOS started doing weeklies -- but again, it&#039;s not clear whether that has any wider implications. I do wish there was some sort of standard format for presenting polling data that all firms and media outlets would respect. In my dream, it would involve full province-by-province breakdowns, not just &quot;the west&quot; or &quot;Atlantic Canada&quot;, smaller sample sizes be damned, as well as daily results and past voter preference, but let&#039;s face it, that&#039;s never going to happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, every polling firm has their own way of handling the undecideds, as far as presenting that data, so it&#039;s tricky to determine whether this is a blip, as far as the rising number, or indicative of a real trend. As far as I know, the conventional wisdom is that Undecides are more likely to be non-voters, and those that do end up deciding usually follow the same overall pattern of the voting population as a whole, which makes the number largely meaningless as far as projecting results from the given data.</p>
<p>This week&#039;s numbers leapt out at me because it was considerably higher than it has been for the last few months &#8212; I&#039;d have to go back and check, but it may be at its highest since EKOS started doing weeklies &#8212; but again, it&#039;s not clear whether that has any wider implications. I do wish there was some sort of standard format for presenting polling data that all firms and media outlets would respect. In my dream, it would involve full province-by-province breakdowns, not just &quot;the west&quot; or &quot;Atlantic Canada&quot;, smaller sample sizes be damned, as well as daily results and past voter preference, but let&#039;s face it, that&#039;s never going to happen.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed_Sweeney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed_Sweeney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 15:52:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BC Liberals are nothing like federal Liberals, it is a party that inherited a liberal-conservative coalition base from the imploding Social Credit party. It is a party with both strong liberal and strong conservative influences.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BC Liberals are nothing like federal Liberals, it is a party that inherited a liberal-conservative coalition base from the imploding Social Credit party. It is a party with both strong liberal and strong conservative influences.</p>
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		<title>By: Dakota</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dakota</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 15:49:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The NDP and Liberals are running neck and neck in the West already. Will this trend spread to Ontario?

Anyway you look at it, it&#039;s bad news for Libs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The NDP and Liberals are running neck and neck in the West already. Will this trend spread to Ontario?</p>
<p>Anyway you look at it, it&#039;s bad news for Libs.</p>
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