Thinking about the old Ignatieff

Speaking of free speech, Steyn speculates about what the Liberal leader can’t say now

by Mark Steyn on Thursday, October 15, 2009 2:40pm - 95 Comments

At least one of my Maclean’s colleagues reckoned that Ezra Levant and I blew it in Ottawa, but I felt we made modest incremental progress. There was a spring in my gait as I left Parliament, and then I thought about the difference between the Big Thinker Ignatieff and the Small Leader Ignatieff and it left me vaguely depressed. I chanced to read a Tarek Fatah column in the National Post headlined “Has Jack Layton Converted To Islam?” As is now traditional—a tradition going all the way back to 9/11, oddly enough—Ramadan and Eid were marked by the usual Islamoschmoozing from the political class, but Mr. Layton went a little further than just the usual enthusiastic pose with burka-clad women (the Ignatieff photo op: I assume they were Muslim women, and not just fellow Liberal MPs preferring to go incognito). The NDP leader’s Ramadamagram to his Muslim “brothers and sisters” informed them that “We are not celebrating the end of Ramadan, but thanking Allah for the help and strength given throughout this special month.”

As Mr. Fatah added: “We? Oui!”

As far as one can tell, Mr. Layton is not technically a Muslim, he just plays one at Eid. Maybe next year he could grow out his moustache and turn up with the full Khomeini. Given that he’s a secular lefty, I doubt he could stick Islam for a week. But nonetheless he feels it’s entirely natural for him to go around “thanking Allah” as “we” celebrate the end of Ramadan: Believer For A Day.

Tarek Fatah’s National Post colleague Jonathan Kay noted the curious evolution of Jack Layton’s NDP: on the one hand, it runs candidates who support gay marriage; on the other, it runs candidates who favour the introduction of sharia. This is the practical model of philosopher Ignatieff’s musings on “collective rights.” An effective political leader (if you’ll forgive me applying the designation to the head honcho of the NDP) collects specimens of approved identity groups and presents his party as the smoothest mediator between these jostling collectivities. And for the moment, as long as he doesn’t get confused and turn up to the Eid banquet in his outfit for the Gay Pride parade, he can just about pull it off.

But do collective rights come at the expense of individual rights and thus, as Ignatieff suggested, lead to tyranny? The evidence suggests so. In Britain, a land with rampant property crime, undercover constables nevertheless find time to dine at curry restaurants on Friday nights to monitor adjoining tables lest someone in private conversation should make a racist remark. An author interviewed on BBC Radio expressed, very mildly and politely, some concerns about gay adoption and was investigated by Scotland Yard’s Community Safety Unit for Homophobic, Racist and Domestic Incidents. A Daily Telegraph columnist was arrested and detained in a jail cell over a joke in a speech. A Dutch legislator was invited to speak at the Palace of Westminster by a member of the House of Lords, but was banned by the government, arrested on arrival at Heathrow and deported. The state, in mediating group relations in a multicultural society, is ever more assertive. If you point out that, for example, European Union prohibitions on “xenophobia” would be unconstitutional in the United States, the more thoughtful Europeans will respond ruefully that things like the First Amendment presuppose a social consensus that across the Atlantic simply doesn’t exist. There are certainly points of tension between post-Christian Euro-hedonists and the Continent’s restive Muslim populations. But Hindu businessmen and gay parenting and all the rest? The reality is that, as Ignatieff discerned, collective rights inflation diminishes the core rights, and provides a very wide licence for tyranny.

In Canada, I feel our campaign these last two years has made some modest progress on the restoration of lost liberties. But one small step forward for this northern Dominion, and a whole bunch of backward stumbles elsewhere. Under President Obama, the United States has now joined the UN Human Rights Council, an entirely fraudulent body which protects the world’s thugs and on which the Organization of the Islamic Conference dominates. In 2008, it rammed through a resolution restricting speech that “constitutes an act of racial or religious discrimination”—in effect, a planetary group-defamation law to insulate Islam from criticism: collective rights on a global scale, and at the cost of individual ones. The U.S., as part of its outreach to the Muslim world, has decided to go along with that after weeks of negotiations with that well-known human-rights beacon, Egypt. “Freedom of expression,” said Hisham Badr, the Egyptian ambassador, “has sometimes been misused.”

Indeed. The good news is such “misuse” seems unlikely to be much of a problem in the future. The free world is conceding great principles, inch by inch but faster and faster.

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  • Onefish

    Funny that Steyn, that celebrated promoter of free speech, got some guy fired from the National Post for saying something he didn't like and refusing to apologize. Was that promoting free speech?

    • RDB

      Glad to see someone’s not afraid to make vague allegations in an uncertain attempt to undermine the point being made.

      • Foreigner

        "Glad to see someone's not afraid to make vague allegations in an uncertain attempt to undermine the point being made."

        Yes, but enough about Mark Stain.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/Thomas_L Thomas_L

    Good column and a continued well done to Mrs. Steyn and Levant but Stephen Harper doesn't score any points for leadership by hiding in the reeds on this one. It's on record how he feels about section 13. I would hope for something besides silence on this issue.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/Thomas_L Thomas_L

    Back up your allegations, please or is this like a Limbaugh "quote"?

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/Ed_Sweeney Ed_Sweeney

    Only if you believe that Foreigner would not rather see Steyn officially muted. Given the disdain for Steyn's musings on free speech, as evident in his post, I think we can comfortably assume that Foreigner has no problem with restricting certain people's free speech rights.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/SisyphusThis SisyphusThis

    In honour of Taliban Jack , some dust in the wind ….

    http://www.johannhari.com/archive/article.php?id=…

    • Dick Richards

      Do you follow the news? Stephen Harper (Taliban Steve) now holds the same views as Taliban Jack on the Afgan war (Note: Mr. Harper doesn't really "holding views" but he's taken words almost from jack laytons mouth on the issue)

      The Canadian Press
      Date: Mon. Mar. 9 2009 7:35 PM ET
      NDP Leader Jack Layton earned the nickname "Taliban Jack" by Tories and other critics for promoting the idea of a negotiated ceasefire involving the Afghan government, Pakistani combatants and the Taliban.

      Harper said in October 2006 that NDP House Leader Libby Davies was asking "despicable questions" in the House of Commons for raising that possibility. And as recently as during last spring's Commons debate on the length of the Afghan mission, Tory MPs were still suggesting it was foolishness to talk to the Taliban. But reports emerged around the same time that Canadian troops were already engaging in discussions with local leaders connected with the Taliban on the ground in Afghanistan. The rhetoric has gradually cooled around such activities, and the Conservatives have supported the Karzai government's efforts to slowly build bridges.

      • http://intensedebate.com/people/SisyphusThis SisyphusThis

        Firefox will soon have an update with an "irony alert" add-on.

  • Red Star Falling

    A very fascinating article. Haroon Siddiqui wants some form of gag order to prevent people like Steyn from identifying cold hearted fact about Islamic behavior and verses from the Koran-the same seedy stuff is found in the old testament, and if taken at face value is a tad eyebrow raising. For example the story of Lot and his daughters at face value speaks to incest. But the figures in the narrative are mere images to make the story stick. What the story means is that faced with extinction-remember Sodom and Gomorrah were reduced to ashes-people will do the most desperate things to survive.

  • Red Star Falling

    As for Taliban Jack, one of these days, Mr. Twinkle Toes will be swaggering about Yong Street, dressed in a chiffon/peach pirate shirt, where he'll notice a deafening silence on behalf of the spectators. Instead of the cheering hoards of gay activists, he'll see all kinds of Islmaists dressed in their own form of business suits. And they won't be cheering.

  • Mars

    Thank goodness- we have someone like Steyn– tell it like it is!!!! If Iggy were smart– he would put out a set of values– one cuold live by– but he has NONE! All he is concerned about is the making of his–kingdom!!! Will people be fooled??? As 4 the Muslims– we have already given too much freedom 2 them–it's time every religion–so called– obeyed the laws of the land. I feel they are coming here- to eventually take over-(perhaps not in our life time)- doing everything in their mosques-behind closed doors–it's time we examined this,…
    As far as Layton goes– he is only killing his own goose!! When has he ever shown any morals –or integrety–politically or otherwise! so 2 all politicians– put your platforms–agendas–policies–& convictions out there-so we know where U stand– never mind looking 4 a platform that U don't believe in–nor will the people!!!

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/HarleyDave Knuckle_Head

    Heroic?? Just another jack-booted blowhard.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/joannie1 joannie1

    Thank you Mr. Steyn, Mr. Levant, and Macleans magazine for speaking on this issue. I couldn't agree with you more!

    I read a quote attributed to Benjamin Franklin and I think it applies to a number of issues. "Those that would sacrifice liberty for safety don't deserve liberty".

    It would be refreshing to hear from a politician that doesn't sound like he's been scripted by polsters.

    • Foreigner

      God, the gushy Stain sycophants.

  • http://twitter.com/mpatton62 @mpatton62

    I don't like speech bans either. Among all of the other problems they create, they make ordinary bigots look like free-speech martyrs. Such people are already thoroughly pumped up with self-pity as it is . . .

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/Wakefield Wakefield Tolbert

      While we certainly appreciate support from all playgrounds, I think we see in some enough emotional baggage and ad hominem with words like "bigot" that it's not worth the effort to have you on board the Free Speech train.

      Especially since the removal or banning or Steyn would bring no real tears to more than a few liberals who just LOVE to posit to the rest of us how they reluctantly must begrudge free speech to people who don't eat at Elaine's or read The New Yorker.

      Gee…THANKS.

      Further, I doubt it's real bigotry to raise more than a few eyebrows about the Steynian subject matter–the conversion of Europe's maternity wards into nurseries for the Sons of Allah (who're caucasion, even if olive-toned) and the social and cultural decay of Europe and Canada and other People's Worker Paradises that have all the time in the world to eat, drink, screw, and suck down wine on the beach, and have all manner of sumptious handouts and goodies from government, BUT don't think enough of their own civilization to either reproduce or defend it.

      • Yuppie

        I don't think anybody who thinks that "ad hominum" is a noun should be on the free speech train.

        • http://intensedebate.com/people/Wakefield Wakefield Tolbert

          Thanks for the hot tip, right off the Grammarian Express Train, Chico.

          Though in the first place I might point out that the mere omission of the requisite follow-up of "attack" to "ad hominem" in order to satisfy the grammarian prudes who haunt us and make sure the phrase's adjective status is well intact for future generations—is all that much of a sin enough to be evicted from the train.

          Secondly, I think your grammarian point might come off with more bang had you spelled the phrase correctly.

          Unless, that is, you hail from a land where spelling is far more optional than "parts of speech."

        • http://intensedebate.com/people/Wakefield Wakefield Tolbert

          In any case, speech is speech. Or so the left tells us when making everything from government-finanaced PISS_CHRIST art, or crayon posters with questionable sentence structure on more than one occasion, or burning flags and pissing on people.

          http://www.zombietime.com

          As against this backdrop from the alleged stalwarts of "free speech" meaning (to the left) that Grog can say bad things about Nog, or show pictures of gory decapitations of George Bush with not visits from secret service agents, I'd say mine and Steyn's take on things is said fairly well by comparison.

  • http://generalwolfe.wordpress.com robbie

    I'm on a Steyn diet (went from overdose to cold turkey) which made this column great to read. I just don't understand where Iggy's coming from. I recall being so energized by the prospect of a real liberal leading the Liberal party that I was 2/3'rd of the way to being an Iggybopper and even voting… Liberal.

    But instead of ever outflanking Harper to the right – meaning on the side of liberalism in this case – Iggy has, with tragic panache, outflanked him on the field of petulant and petty politicking. The Liberal habit of fighting popularity contests pitting the cool "big Canada" people against the squares is creating a small-tent.

  • George

    Let us not forget that it is a Liberal government that passed section 13 into law. So it would be rather awkward for the new Liberal leader to attack it and push for its suppression. We should blame Harper for reneging on his prior statements about this Section and maintaining it while he is in power.

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/canucklehead canucklehead

      I had hoped it would be less awkward for Iggy than Harper. Harper has to tip-toe around potential "hidden agenda" issues which is why he isn't being himself regarding section 13.

  • George

    No leader of a national party in Canada will dare to take a position against Section 13 because Canadian Jewish Congress supports it. That's the "hidden agenda".

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/canucklehead canucklehead

      Falling on deaf ears/your own sword here.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/FPSS_Dave FPSS_Dave

    What ARE Human Rights? I would suggest that it was stated most accurately in the American Declaration of Independence, where it was written, you have the right to the PURSUIT of happiness. More to the point, one does not have a RIGHT to happiness, for that implies it must be provided to you, and therefore someone somewhere is obligated by this right to your happiness. A RIGHT does not obligate another individual to you. A RIGHT does not enslave one portion of society to another. This would appear to fly in the face of the lofty goals written in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights where apparently you have the right to an education, a right to a standard of living, a right to be treated with dignity. Well, no. Certainly anyone with any compassion and empathy might agree with this to some degree, but if you make it someones right to have these things, you enslave others to provide it. Quite simply, you have the right to EARN these things. We seem to have lost any requirement for self responsibility. We seem to have lost any backbone. We rely on Human Rights Commissions to water down what human rights actually are so that these new-age rights do exactly the opposite of what we want them to do. They stifle and discourage freedom.

    Regards
    Dave

  • Peter Langmuir

    Ignatieff is now officially unelectable. God save the Liberal party of Canada.

  • Mars

    Grieve–Iggy grieve!!! YOur arrogance is taking over–what-who– where & when–are U??? Have U nothing 2 say 2 the electorate–except what the other parties are not doing!!! Get off your high horse & tell us who U really are!! Wouldn't vote 4 a liberal–anyhow-have nothing 2 go on!!! so look up–4 a chamge–& open your eyes!!!

  • http://www.windsofchange.net Joe Katzman

    "I wonder if Steyn knows that Allah means God in Arabic. It doesn't specify which one!"

    Yes it does. Try delivering that line on TV in Saudi Arabia, and see what happens to you.

    "Al" is used often in Arabic, and is roughly equivalent to "The." It combines with "lah," and properly translates as "THE [one, indivisible, neither begot nor begetting] God."

    Mind you, Jack Layton may well see the socialist state in those terms, and simply rely on the mutual incomprehension of his audience to sound good, while camouflaging the mortal insult.

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