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Beyond The Commons

Aaron Wherry covers all the goings-on in and around Parliament Hill. Follow Aaron on Twitter: @aaronwherry

Strangers yelling at each other

by Aaron Wherry on Thursday, October 22, 2009 10:55am - 32 Comments

Speaker Peter Milliken talks to the Globe and considers the House he has presided over longer than anyone else.

Q: How much has the Hill changed, or what’s changed the most?

A: I think the biggest change has been in the increased partisanship in the House. When I was first elected we had morning sittings and a lunch time break, then evening sittings after a dinner break. Members would go up to the restaurant to eat and mix and mingle there. The chances for mixing and mingling these days are much, much less. And so you have members who barely know each other sitting on opposite sides of the House yelling at each other. It makes it much harder, I think, for members to be as friendly and polite, maybe is the word, as when I was first elected here.

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  • http://intensedebate.com/people/SeanStok SeanStok

    Well. Don't I look stupid. Very stupid.

    Tempting though it is to delete that away, I shall leave my brain fade for all to see!

    (thanks!)

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/Jenn_ Jenn_

    This was an interesting thread. All the usual partisans were here (not trolls), yet I can't think of a thread where there has been more basic agreement.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/danby danby

    An independent that the government could arbitrarily choke funding to?
    I hear Kevin Page is looking for work

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/madeyoulook madeyoulook

    Curse you, Al Gore!

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/madeyoulook madeyoulook

    How do we know he wasn't considering crossing the floor? Now THERE would be a rumor…

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/madeyoulook madeyoulook

    Hasn't this topic come up before, here at Blog Central?

    Found it:
    http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/06/22/of-course-mr-i…

    Turns out Mr Speaker might have plagiarized Don Newman.

  • hosertohoosier

    This isn't just a Canada thing. There is an argument (I forget where) that two basic "advances" destroyed the legacy of collegiality in the US Senate as well: the jet and health consciousness. When representatives are in Ottawa or DC year round, or almost year-round, they have a much greater incentive to get along. Nowadays, they fly home to do constituency work whenever the house/parliament is not in session. Health consciousness also inhibits the kind of social activities that best endear people to each other (drinking bourbon and smoking cigars). The rise in the number of female MP's may also play a part in this as well because cross-gender socializing is more difficult.

    I am not sure I entirely buy that explanation, however, as there are other factors at play. The data suggests that a good predictor of polarization is income inequality (http://voteview.ucsd.edu/images/MPR_Figure_1_1.jp… In Canada regional inequality might offer a similar prediction. Increasingly democratic nomination procedures make MP's beholden to ideologically extremist party activists (in the US, primaries make this a huge problem). Additionally, in Canada, our current parties are the remains of the pizza parliament of the 90's – when most parties were centered around regional grievances (and even the one exception, the Liberals, only stayed in power by winning nearly every seat in Ontario). Throw in changes in how we get news – news aggregators can put an ideological spin on things, and a greater number of news stations encourages stations to be biased, so as to win over a niche market (it is certainly working out for Fox News in the US). Finally the nature of media coverage of parliament encourages rowdiness (and overstates it). We usually get question period (heck it is the only thing Wherry talks about), which is the most acrimonious part of the day. This decision tends to favour politicians capable of summoning the holy fires of outrage – so guys like Lucien Bouchard or John Baird outshine quieter sorts like Jim Prentices or Alexa McDonoughs.

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