What happened, Michael?

As Ignatieff sinks in the polls, Liberals are trying to figure out what’s gone wrong

by Aaron Wherry on Friday, October 23, 2009 11:40am - 103 Comments

What happened, Michael?“Would you like some soup, sir?”

Maybe this is tawdry, just another offering to the morning papers and evening news. Or maybe this is public service. Maybe it’s exactly what he should be doing, helping his fellow man, setting an example. Either way, this is politics.

“Would you like a little soup, sir?”

It’s 11:20 on the morning of Thanksgiving Sunday. Michael Ignatieff, in a white apron, is standing behind the counter at the Shepherds of Good Hope mission in Ottawa, a 20-minute walk from Parliament Hill. Men and women of various ages and in varying states file past. Behind them, three photographers click away. Ignatieff is ladling tomato and squash soup into small bowls. To his right, his wife, the exuberant former publicist Zsuzsanna Zsohar, scoops vegetables.

“Soup’s pretty good,” he says, “it’ll warm you up.”

A woman at the door, relentlessly chipper, is assuring each person who enters that the photographers won’t be taking pictures of their faces. One man isn’t willing to take her word for it and rather forcefully warns the photographers to stand down while he files past. It is the end of perhaps the worst week of Michael Ignatieff’s political career so far. His poll numbers have never been worse, his doubters have never been louder. And in the middle of this, he looks uncomfortable.

“Would you like some soup with that, sir?” he asks.

Ignatieff stays for an hour and 14 minutes, until every person is fed. He lingers awhile to talk with the staff and then he has to go. A week later, sitting at a table just off the dining room at Stornoway, the leader of the Opposition’s official residence, he tries to explain the look on his face. He acknowledges the awkwardness of the cameras. But his answer is long. He wants to explain himself fully.

“What’s so puzzling about this recession is that it’s largely invisible. But you go to a line like that and you suddenly see that it’s not just the usual street people, it’s a lot of other people who don’t know how they got there, that are shocked that they’re there, and I was shocked for them, I guess that that was my reaction,” he says. “Shocked is not quite the word, but just, it really hits you. In the same way that in Thunder Bay it hits you. On Thursday morning we were in a lumber mill that’s been closed for two years and the superintendent comes down every day just to make sure it hasn’t been broken in. Brand-new machinery standing idle. And you see something on the guy’s face that really hits you.”

He is not yet done on this. “The great thing about politics is you get to see the country raw and unplugged. You get to see things that most other Canadians don’t see,” he says. “You get to live your country’s life. So, I haven’t had the greatest autumn, but it’s an unforgettable experience and a positive one, in the sense that it deepens your sense of what your country is and what it’s going through.”

So here is Michael Ignatieff in October 2009. He is putting himself out there, listening, learning and talking it out. He is trying to understand all there is to understand about the country he hopes to lead and he is trying to help that country understand him. He is attempting to lead a party weighed down by history into the future. The questions are numerous, the opinions are plentiful and even Liberals are struggling to understand. But the onus remains entirely his.

Three years ago, he appeared smiling on the cover of this magazine beside the question of the moment: “Are you good enough for Michael Ignatieff?” Ten months into his tenure as Liberal leader, the question is now inverted: is Michael Ignatieff ever going to be good enough for us?

It has been a bizarre 10 months—from last winter’s prospect of prime minister Stéphane Dion to this fall’s reinvention of Prime Minister Stephen Harper as Ringo Starr in a Beatles cover band featuring Yo-Yo Ma. Through the spring, Ignatieff’s Liberals were ascendant. By summer, they had stalled. And through the fall, they have wilted. They now sit as much as 15 points behind the ruling Conservatives. “It’s very bad,” says EKOS pollster Frank Graves. “I don’t think it’s permanent or indelible or irreparable, but it’s very bad.”

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  • knick

    Soup line patrons were once mostly old men and a few old women who, for the most part, had come to terms with the reality of their situation, but more and more patrons now are younger, families with children, and young adults unable to make a living, people who are stunned and ashamed that for them it has come to this. It must be a shock for anyone who doesn't see these people on a daily basis.

    IMHO, Ignatieff's 'problem' is related to the old dilemma about whether voters cast their ballots for someone who will represent their views, or for someone whose views they agree with. He seems to be trying to respond to what Canadians think they want, and that makes him seem unfocused because so many Canadians either don't know or don't care about the role of government. For those who want to make an informed decision it's not a simple matter of what's good and what's not because of all of the implications that need to be considered. The other guy is scoring points by telling Canadians what they want, so there's really nothing they need to understand except that. The other guy keeps bringing up the past to excuse his own performance, but that was then and this is now, and Canadians need to be more concerned about now.

    It would be helpful if anyone could point out what's wrong with Ignatieff's policies because they sound like the kinds of things I can support.

    Good interview – very informative.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/ChrisInKW ChrisInKW

    She knows where Prince George is, so I don't see how that's relevant to this thread but thanks.

  • The screed

    The libs are pinin' is all….they realize what a great catch they had in Steffi Dion and want him back!

  • Observant

    I can't believe the Liberals are still going to promote Ignatieff as their best choice and offering for PM of Canada. The man is a lapsed Canadian and in the last 36 years of his life, he lived in Britain for 27 years, in the USA for 5 years and in Canada only 4 years..!!!

    While away from Canada, he ignored and even demeaned us .. and now by his birthright he wants to be PM of Canada??? … Never!!!!

  • HJ Toby

    I find it amusing that the Conservatives are seen as playing a very good political game and the Liberals are not. It used to be the other way around, and I think the Liberals got too complacent as a result.

    As far as Mr. Ignatieff himself is concerned, it seems he's tried a few different things and they haven't worked. If he's an "idea man" and a "global thinker" why doesn't he just try being himself. It's very hard to fake genuineness in the public spotlight if you don't have it. Some politicians can do it; Mr. Ignatieff can't. So why not take a chance on the "real Ignatieff"? People might respect that and (gulp) even like it. What has he got to lose…

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/CanadianSense CanadianSense

    knick writes "It would be helpful if anyone could point out wrong with Ignatieff's policies because they sound like the kinds of things I can support. "

    Really? Can you list where those policies are? The media, partisan bloggers, Liberal MP are unable to explain what those "policies" are.

    I have read many of his speeches filled with glaring errors on the Economy, Energy and Foreign Relations. Can you provide the link and include a few points on those Policies.

    Thanks

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/hollinm hollinm

    I cannot believe that Wherry fell for the crap that Iffy laid on him. The man is full of platitudes and bromides. Without putting any meat on the bones he is asking for ridicule. We do not live in the 90s where the old Liberal policies of a national daycare, aboriginal issues and child poverty can be repeated and expect the Canadian public to buy it. Canadian have told the Liberal party in 3 successive elections we don't want those hugely expensive programs. Deal with the realities facing Canadians. Trouble is Iffy doesn't know what affects Canadians on a daily basis. Going to a soup kitchen may be the reality for some but for the mainstream not so much.He is too busy talking to the elites of the country. He was born with a silver spoon in his mouth and does not know what it is to struggle to work for a living trying to raise kids etc. etc. So unless he can swallow himself whole and reinvent himself into something he is not Canadians are not going to buy this wannabe American.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/hollinm hollinm

    Harper has read the tea leaves and concluded what Iffy didn't have the political smarts to figure out. Canadians don't want an election and they mean it this time. Iffy of course judged it the other way and is paying for it in the polls. So Harper is working on the economy and yes handing out billions which the Libs agreed with by the way and now the Libs are mad. Hypocrisy you bet.
    Mr. Harper has also determined that Canadians do not want an elitist dropping into the country, being appointed by his party as leader to be PM. So he will bide his time and wait. Will it be a mistake? Time will tell.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/hollinm hollinm

    Sounds like a lot of wishful thinking. You are right though anything can happen. However, lets not forget that during all of Iffy's ascendancy to the leadership and after Harper is considered by Canadians to be the one best able to manage the economy. Libs can try to create faux scandals but they better get Smitherman in Ontario on their side because the Lib case just fell apart. Nobody is breaking out the chamagne but Libs should also stop drinking the kool-aid and face realities. Iffy is not the one.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/hollinm hollinm

    You are right there is going to be a spill over effect if Charest's government is implicated in the construction scandal in Montreal. Shades of Adscam will not help the federal Libs in Quebec.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/hollinm hollinm

    Just to let you know there is no provincial/municipal Conservative party in Quebec.

  • knick

    Was your reply meant to be helpful?
    The policies I referred to are those mentioned in the interview. Granted, without more specifics, it's impossible to ascertain what their implications would be, but the general focus of those policies is what interests me. Do you have links for those 'glaring errors'?
    Sorry, the only link I have is the one you're on.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/hollinm hollinm

    Not only is it the fakest smile but the guy takes god awful pictures. He does look like the Grinch and the local vampire. Sorry but it had to said. We are in a world where public image creates impressions. Those big eyebrows bouncing up and down and the lizard like tongue licking his lips is a turn off. it may be a sign of intelligence among the latte sucking crowd but to the rest of us it is darn creepy. Maybe all this would be forgiven if what came of his mouth was credible.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/hollinm hollinm

    Very good comment.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/hollinm hollinm

    This is the 21st century and times are not remaining the same. We are moving at lightening speed and any politician who thinks they can provide a "vision" is selling snake oil and most Canadians would see that. So keep Iffy projecting out to 2017 and see how credible that vision will be.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/hollinm hollinm

    Except that Iffy is suppose to be the smartest guy in the room so the Libs and their sycophant media tell us. So where is his common sense. When Canadians in overwhelming numbers say no election he decideds to have a vote of non confidence in the House specifically to try to trigger an election. Common sense my boy common sense. Maybe when it comes to politics he ain't the smartest guy in the room.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/CanadianSense CanadianSense

    I could provide several links but the list would be too long. I will let a former Liberal Riding president explain a few mistakes on the Environmental File SH and Jack Layton poll better.

    Liberal Leader Michael Ignatieff’s speech to the Vancouver Board of Trade demonstrated a staggering ignorance on the ‘clean energy’ file. His speech today demonstrated a total lack of understanding of this division of power. What’s more, he incorrectly accused Canada of not being a green energy leader. We are. Hydroelectricity represents 88% of the world’s installed renewable energy source. Canada is second only to China in the production of hydroelectric power, and is forth in the world for use of hydroelectricity as a percentage of supply.
    The majority of Canada’s power production (just under 60%) comes from hydroelectricity. We’re three times greener than Denmark – but more importantly because of energy use, considerably more than that megawatt to megawatt.-John Laforet

    <a linkindex="503" href="http://laforet.ca/2009/10/13/ignatieffs-clean-energy-proposal-bad-politics-and-bad-policy/&quot; target="_blank">” target=”_blank”>http://laforet.ca/2009/10/13/ignatieffs-clean-ene…

    Economic Speech
    http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fullcomm…

    Toronto STAR demanding he start talking STRAIGHT EDITORIAL
    http://www.thestar.com/comment/article/714686

    It is true that the opposition leader's principal job is to expose the flaws in the government's agenda. But his electability depends on the alternatives he puts forward. When Ignatieff offers none, he invites Canadians to judge him on his persona (cerebral), his competence (undemonstrated) and his political record (scant).

  • jarrid

    Michael Ignatieff could quite easily be a member of Harper's cabinet. His years in the U.S. and Britain have made him center-right in terms of Canadian poliitcs.

    Problem is, that political territory has already been staked by the Conservatives.

    So Iggy has to troll left for votes. Is it surprising that his heart isn't into it?

  • john

    Social Justice? Child care? Dependence on fossil fuels? Right now the average Canadian is more concerned about putting food on the table while keeping warm this winter. You would think an hour in a soup kitchen would have been more of a revelation.

  • knick

    Thanks for the links.

    There's some debate about hydroelectric power being 'green', as the 'former Liberal Riding president' claims, because of the damaging impact it has on the immediate environment

    Both of the other items you referenced are critical of Ignatieff's failure to provide specifics of his policies, but it's not clear to me what kind of specifics they are referring to. I don't see how he could be much more specific without knowing the true state of government finances.

    If, as you claim, Ignatieff offers no alternatives, then what is it exactly that you and others want to know? I'm not being facetious, I really want to know what it is that I'm overlooking.

  • Kerri

    Ignatieff is my corner, constantly connecting? From the interviews final line it is clear that Ignatieff is dreaming. Jack Handy springs to mind if there were some humour in it.

  • knick

    This discussion is going nowhere because we're on two different wave lengths. Your focus is on trashing the Liberals, and mine is on what party I'lll support in the next election. It could go on forever.

    No thanks.

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/CanadianSense CanadianSense

      knick

      You asked a question and I posted links and opinion backed up additional links available that the LPC is without substance or Policy.

      I think it is wonderful you support the Liberal Party, but if you ask a serious question you should not be shocked some of us ex liberals have reasons why we won't return.

      It is not about different wavelengths as much as it is about looking for the truth and the substance behind the speeches and promises.

      Is is safe to say you will vote for Hope and Change and will wait for substance when the LPC are elected?

      • knick

        I get that you are much more aware of the inside politics stuff than I am, but I still disagree with your statement that the LPC is without substance or policy because for an average voter like myself, what Ignatieff is saying about what he would do as PM is pretty much in line with what I would like to see done.

        What I support is what I understand to be Liberal values; if a Liberal Leader demonstrates those values, then I would likely vote Liberal. I am surprised by what ex liberals are saying because I haven't a clue about why you're so bitter and why you won't return. That's probably why it seems to me that we're at cross purposes in this discussion.

        I do hope to vote for Hope and Change – a better option than we have now. The reality as I see it is that it's either a Conservative Government or a Liberal Government, so the options for Hope and Change are limited.

        As for truth and substance, it seems to me that has always been the case – we vote for people on good faith without the certainty of knowing they will do what they say they will do. There have been broken promises in the past, and I have no doubt there will be again.

        When all is said and done, the only thing I've learned from this discussion is that there are bitter disaffected Liberals. That's unlikely to change my views or influence my vote. And I really couldn't care less about all the bickering within the party and by former members except for the advantage it gives Harper.

        • claudia lemire

          Forget for a moment about policies, the reason why it is hard to trust Ignatieff is his lack of character, can't make his mind up, he doesn't know how to lead, period… I mean nothing wrong with that, some people do and others don't…

          And, he has his time ticking with the party, already deeply divided and only a major miracle would change canadians and his party minds!

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/deporkinheimer deporkinheimer

    In my opinion, some Liberals had thought that it had no one within their ranks to lead the party, and so went looking abroad for a savior. The Conservatives correctly identified this as being something that would aggravate even the most loyal partisans. If the Liberals hope to govern again anytime soon, they need to look to the grassroots supporters and bring in leaders and candidates from within. They have got to stop cynically parachuting in leaders, and candidates whose credentials are based on hockey careers, family ties (Justin Trudeau) or physical attractiveness (Dhalla), as opposed to candidates with grassroots support in their ridings. The media seems to encourage them. I think Canadians are fed up with this idea of politicians being these puppets being run by head office. All parties are guilty of this, it just seems that the Liberals seem guiltier given that they brought in a ex-patriot and annointed him without process, and then have the audacity to have this puppet proclaim the need for an election

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/Thwim Thwim

      Look into the rules surrounding becoming a conservative candidate.. the Liberals only seem guiltier because it happened under the media eye.

      Take a look at Rob Anders' most recent nomination process if you want a real eye-opener about puppets.

  • claudia lemire

    No. you are not mistaken!

  • kathryn

    I think you'd find it less so if the Conservatives did not have the full support of most of our corporate media. For just one example, the recent polls showed a drop in CPC support and an increase for the Liberals of approximately 2% – this article is purportedly about the polls and yet look at the title.

    I am a little amused though at the perpetual harping on the potential for a majority – in the past any scent of Harper majority has only increased the 'hold your nose and vote Liberal' tendencies of Canadians. I'm not a betting person but I would stake money on this – that majority will continue to prove elusive, Ignatieff or no.

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