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'4,476 pages of contempt'

by Aaron Wherry on Monday, November 2, 2009 2:39pm - 121 Comments

Kevin Page has apparently asked the government if it might turn over the electric version of the paper data it dumped in boxes on his doorstep last week. The NDP’s Thomas Mulcair appeared after QP on Friday with one of the boxes to unleash the following.

J’ai été, les trois boîtes, ça c’est les boîtes elles-mêmes qui ont été donné hier à Kevin Page.  Celui-ci, le 2 of 3 est marqué Ontario complete.  En réponse à une demande légalement formulée par le directeur parlementaire du budget, Kevin Page a reçu la réponse suivante du ministre Baird.  Il a reçu trois boîtes, 4,476 pages de documents, aucun résumé, aucune version électronique.

This is one of three boxes that Minister Baird sent to Kevin Page, Canada’s Parliamentary Budget Officer in response to his legally formulated request for information.  If you look at the Act that constitutes the Parliamentary Budget Officer, he has the right to ask for all information required to allow him to do his job.  There was no summary, no synopsis, no spreadsheet, there wasn’t even an electronic version, 4,476 pages of contempt from John Baird to the Parliamentary Budget Officer.  This one is marked Box 2 of 3, Ontario complete.  These are the actual boxes, although you’ll understand that the documents are no longer in them because every document and we have copies for you of one of the pages, every document is marked Protected A.  So these documents were sent to Kevin Page’s office.

I was at his office today.  I was able to see them.  It’s just a stack of information.  It’s an old lawyer trick.  When you want to bury your opponent, you simply provide them with so much written information, they can’t do anything with it.  But what’s interesting to notice that there two aspects here that are, that are very galling.  One, Kevin Page has the right to get that information.  Two, under the, under the Accountability Act, there are two things that have to be done under Section 16.4.  One is that every time you give out money from the Canadian government, it has to be on the receiving end in compliance with government policies and procedures and the Deputy Minister has to sign off on that.  Now that’s important because the information we have so far is that a lot of the receivers of this money have not complied with those policies.

The other thing is you have to have, in the exact words of the statute, effective systems of internal control.  In other words, the electronic version of this of course exists.  The only thing that he’s been encouraging is the pulp and paper industry by printing up so many papers.  But it simply begs the question by calling it protected, even though it’s public information about public money, what indeed is Minister Baird trying to protect with his schoolboy prank of sending at the very last minute, by the way, it was exactly at the same second that he was to appear before Parliamentary Committee that Kevin Page’s office received those documents.

We find it unacceptable that an institution that was created to protect the public, it’s to help parliamentarians come to correct decisions on government spending, is being treated with such contempt.

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  • Katherine

    It's pretty tiring to hear conservatives play dumb on this one. We live in the information age. They could have given him the information in an Excel spreadsheet. Even if they were half-assed about it and gave it in several different Excel spreadsheets from different government documents instead of collating them, it would have been far more useful than thousands of pages of printed paper.

    It's pretty darn clear that they're being purposefully obstructionist. Conservatives: please give Canadians credit for having brains.

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/Ed_Sweeney Ed_Sweeney

      Try to take a minute and think about that. No matter what format the information was summarized in, there would have been a complaint that the government was hiding something, or massaging the data to make themselves look better. Page was very clear that he wanted all the information in real haste.

  • Out There

    If the Conservatives were spending simulus money fairly, they would be boasting loudly about it. They're not, so they're not.

    And it's important to remember that the Conservatives are still a minority government. How would they behave if they had a majority? Would they just eliminate the PBO position entirely?

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/criselis criselis

    I always figure it will be a good day when the conbots are so over the top that I just have to laugh.

  • Anon Lib

    People should be outraged over this. All Page is asking for is information to help evaluate the stimulus program. It's in the interests of every Canadian taxpayer that he be able to do this job.

    Why is the govt making this difficult for him? How is this being accountable? It's not just Kevin Page that they're showing contempt towards, it's all Canadians.

    Why is this govt hiding information?

  • Jesse

    Kevin Page is supposed to be non-partisan, clearly he is not.

    Nobody is interested in his fame seeking. His analysis has been flawed from the get go.

    Time for him to go!

  • Anon Lib

    But you Cons were in such a lather to have greater accountability and daylight back when you were asking Canadians to turf out the Liberals and vote you guys in instead.

    Now you want him to shut up and go away. Gee if he was investigating the sponsorship scandal would you want similar discretion? No?

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/StephenGordon StephenGordon

    How on earth do you infer his partisan leanings from this? He wants to do his job.

    Or is *that* the problem? A truly non-partisan PBO wouldn't do his job?

  • Jesse

    I'd rather he investigated the 40 million that went missing after adscam…

  • http://Twitter.com/lobbycanada Lobbycanada

    This is beyond the pale. I don’t understand how Harper cheerleaders try (and fail) to justify this waste. We are dealing with taxpayer money here, and Baird is showing contempt towards accountability.

  • Jesse

    You're right.

    Its possible he has no politics whatsoever and is just a fame hound.

    Either way I view it as unnacceptable that he's providing props to the opposition and complaining about his treatment to the media.

    This is not the manner in which one would expect someone in his position to behave.

  • tobyornottoby

    So your only problem is that a confidential box was released into the hands of a partisan? And he will now know what, the net weight of the former contents? Which side is up? Okay, busted, let's censure Kevin Page for supplying this box to the NDP.

    We'll get right on with slapping his wrist after the minister responsible for Infrastructure resigns for refusing to provide information about that spending to an officer of parliament, to a parliamentary commitee and to Canadians in general.

  • Anon Lib

    Why can't Kevin Page just be quietly marginalized like every Conservative MP? It's almost as if he were independent or something. FAMEWHORE!

  • Scott M.

    That's not his job, Jesse…

    I'd rather the garbage man come around and rake my lawn too.

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