There's a shortage of vaccines, and it's all the fault of [Your Government Here]

Particularly when it comes to seeing to the needs of the most vulnerable, withholding information for political reasons isn't much of an excuse.

you gotta admit it sounds good

Not that we could expect much different from the liberals. I'm beginning to wonder if even a majority govt will get these cons governing?

I'm just unclear as to what they should be "on the hook" for. We don't currently have a set-up where the feds can take control of the entire process. I'm not even sure it's possible or desirable to centralize our pandemic responses fully – though clearly our regional health agencies were often woefully unprepared to vaccinate thousands in the midst of an unanticipated panic. And it's not fair to expect the federal government to issue directives or specify strategies outside of their jurisdiction. They'd have no ability to enforce practices, and furthermore would likely endure howls of criticism that they were overstepping their bounds.

They were, and are, responsible for the supply of vaccine. All evidence suggests they balanced safety and expediency well (remember, part of the "delay" had to do with changing medical advice regarding the safety of adjuvanted vaccine for pregnant women), and it's hard to imagine the supply being secured much sooner than it was.

Unless some serious lying was taking place, I thought the manufacturer only let the government know about shortages at the last minute.

Now, we can discuss whether the government ought to have kept staff permanently camped out at the plant where the vaccine was produced (I would, were I the PM).

But isn't our concern over delays a bit misplaced, given that we're talking about delays against an early rollout? Put another way, I don't recall anyone saying vaccinations by year end was too late when that plan was laid over the summer.

I know I keep saying this, but I'm hardly a fan of this government. I think they're generally a group of toxic, contemptuous jerks. But in this case, I just don't think they've failed (though Baird's antics in QP last week were despicable – regardless of who was asking the questions).

jarrid, is that you?

So the all of the other provincial health officers, Deuty ministers of health, ministers of health etc that were part of this plan, and didnt say boo on this were also calculating politically on this file. And they all came to the same political calculation that they shoudl "order late"

Nice assertion, I assume it sits beside the Bldg 7 and Roswell.

You are the one who placed the emphasis on political strategy and said that this was driving the decisions "But the crux of the matter is incompetent or partisan political messaging" and "But hese guys are so immature that they see everything in terms of poltical loss or gain" How else is one supposed to interpret comments like that?

The only ones who have politicized this issue are the Liberals and the Dippers to lesser extent. The government didnt paint their ads blue on this, they didnt hog the political spotlight, they worked with the provinces as they should> Were they perfect, absolutely not, I would have preferred a little more clairity about looking to the provinces for guidance, as it always should be.

What was the governments political strategy here? Other than ensure that they werent flying solo and had the provinces onboard? What other big foreheaded, chessmaster political calculation was there?

careful vince you are peilously close to using reality and common sense which just ruins the daily dose of liberal kool aid!