Like old times

As Russia pressures Eastern Europe, the U.S. looks away

by Michael Petrou on Wednesday, November 4, 2009 5:43am - 19 Comments

This strategy has its challenges. Western Europe also relies on Russian gas, and without either Eastern Europe’s collective memory of Soviet occupation, or its geographic proximity to Russia, they aren’t overly sympathetic to Eastern European concerns about Russian bullying. It doesn’t help that Western European politicans have a habit of taking lucrative jobs with Russian gas companies once they leave office. The idea that Eastern Europe might more effectively attract American support in co-operation with the rest of the continent is also weakened by the fact that Western Europe doesn’t have a lot of pull with Washington these days, either. “The extra weight that [Eastern Europe] needs to get American attention depends in part on Western Europe, and Western Europe is not asserting itself and is not showing that it is part of the solution to very many problems,” says Stephen Sestanovitch, a former U.S ambassador at large during the Bill Clinton administration, who is now at the Council on Foreign Relations. “When American policy makers look at Europe, what they tend to see are fat, comfortable countries that aren’t making much of an effort to work with the United States on big problems.”

This is one of the reasons why Eastern European Atlanticists feel so jilted. They did try to help America with its big problems. They sent soldiers to Afghanistan and to Iraq when the United States was desperate for international support. “I think they justifiably feel as if they have to some extent been used,” says Charles Kupchan, a professor of international affairs at Georgetown University.

Poland, for example, took on a sizable burden in Iraq and wanted to believe it was also carving out a special relationship with the United States. “Now that it is finding out that it is being treated like an Italy or a Spain, Poles are saying, ‘Wait a minute. We stood by the United States when the chips were down. What has it gotten us?’ ” says Kupchan. It didn’t get them much. Polish citizens still need a visa to travel to the United States.

In cold, geostrategic terms, it may be that the United States can afford to let its ties with Eastern Europe fray. Compared with, say, Pakistan, the region is stable and repercussions of a decline in American influence are minor. Put simply, Washington has limited resources and bigger problems. And the countries of Eastern Europe, for their part, arguably need to forge closer ties with the rest of Europe. Geography is still hugely important in global politics, and you can’t pick your neighbours.

Still, for Eastern Europeans who looked to America for help during the Cold War, and whose countries benefited from American support while transitioning to democracy in the post-Soviet era, the cooling trend stings. For the United States, it may also be risky. History has a way of taking unexpected turns. And while good allies are difficult to keep, they are harder, and more costly, to get back.

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  • http://intensedebate.com/people/Gaunilon Gaunilon

    Excellent article.

    I'll add one further consideration: a bully will always push his limits until something pushes back. Either the US takes the lead in pushing back now, or they bring up the rear in pushing back later. The longer it goes, the farther over the line the bully gets.

    Left unchecked this sort of reluctance to stand up to the region's bully will lead to a major war.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/canucklehead canucklehead

    It sounds funny because of the popular perception, but I remember recognizing several years ago that it was the 'idealism' of Bush's foreign policy that attracted me. People talk about having no permanent allies but only permanent interests but I think the truth is that interests are more easily changable than allies.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/ultraphoenix ultraphoenix

    What people seem not to get, about Obama is that he is obsessively focused on his "vision" for America. HIS vision. He doesn't give a hoot about Czec, Pole, Iran, Ruskies, China, North Korea, etc. Those to him are all connected and "solved" once he achieves his vision. And what is the means to which will allow him to get this done is through healthcare. Once he gets healthcare done, by his logic, all will be possible. THAT is why he is not going to let this go until the very end when Obamacare gets defeated or watered down like a cheap whiskey in Bankok.

  • Mladen

    That leaves us to important question: Does NATO sees Russia as potential enemy or not? If answer is "No", then why all that military push on East? Better call Russia to join NATO as well. But if answer is "Yes" do you expect Russia should be happy because of NATO expansion to it's border? Then is "little matter" of subsidized energy prices. In Soviet times whole Soviet Union and even Warsaw Pact allies had those subsidies. But why somebody think Russia should subsidize NATO wannabes too? So, if USA wants Ukraine in NATO and Russia out, Ukraine will pay same gas price as Germany. It's up to USA to help paying that bill. Yes, all this Bush sycophants in East Europe have been had. By hostile policy they alienated Russia but USA have not jumped to help instead. Man, what USA definitely miss in East Europe is clear, publicly declared policy and will to pay for that policy. Current situation looks like kicking under table with Russia.

  • http://www.courtroomgame.com Jimmy

    I thought the missile shield was purportedly to be used as a defense against Iran.

    So, first the US announces a missile shield, then when Russia protests against the step-up in antagonism by the US, the US says it is not directed at Russia, but it for defense against Middle Eastern maniacs.

    Now, when the US withdraws the plans for the shield, which were not in public favor in either Poland or Czech R., by the way, the governments of Poland and Czech R. say that the shield was a defense against Russia.

    So which way was it? Was it a shield against Russia, or a shield against Iran?

    • Ster

      If you do not know, then you are a fool.

  • http://www.courtroomgame.com Jimmy

    Is this writer for real?

    The gas pipeline was shut down by Gazprom because Ukraine was taking the gas without paying for it.

    Georgia invaded S Ossetia, bombing civilian apartment buildings, and Russia stepped in to stop the looting and free-for-all.

    The leaders are Eastern Europe are using the bad-boy boogeyman – Russia – to create fear in their consitutents and enhance their popularity.

    As long as super-paranoids like this writer spew their hate speech, and the US prevents Russia from becoming a member of the international community (like using Poland as a stooge to cast a veto vote on Russia's entry into the WTO) then their will be misunderstanding and a "confrontational attitude" towards Russia.

  • http://www.courtroomgame.com Jimmy

    Forgot to add the last sentence -

    As long as super-paranoids like this writer spew their hate speech, and the US prevents Russia from becoming a member of the international community (like using Poland as a stooge to cast a veto vote on Russia's entry into the WTO) then their will be misunderstanding and a "confrontational attitude" towards Russia.

    And Barack Obama can conveniently use the boogeyman – Russia – to divert attention from his lack of ability to solve or even confront real problems, like China with its growing military, its theft of technology (Obama just gifted them with GM's Hummer – technology to make modern tanks), its piracy of intellectual property and its inate racism, like worldwide Islamo-facism and terrorists, including those in Russia, which the US media rationalizes, and the new emergence of left-wing dictators in Latin America – Cuba, Nicaragua, Venezuela, etc.

    But the media is hyper-worried about none of this, only with complaining about a Russia that wants a market price for its raw materials, and that dares to show concern for the mistreatment and abuse (denial of voting privileges and selective taxation) of ethnic Russians in former Soviet republics.

  • Mladen

    Apparently some circles still cannot forgive lost opportunity to put paw on Russian mineral riches. Considering that Western countries too (like Australia most recently) rather assemble cartels then let foreign investments in, I do not see reason for demonetization here. And chief condition to become banana republic is to allow foreign multinationals to run your country. Otherwise there is plenty of old Cold War laws preventing sale of high tech to Russia, complicating Russia's economic integration with… rest of developed world, these days. Otherwise I can't see how (apart from MAD scenario) Russia can be threat for EU (3* bigger population) or NATO (5* bigger population). It is not Cold War any more with two evenly matched blocks.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/foutsc foutsc

    America's new foreign policy: Bow to despots, a hand of friendship to freedom's enemies and the back of the hand to our true friends. This is sad…

  • Maccabeus

    To put it bluntly, Obama does not have the stomach for any kind of confrontation – with Russia, Iran, China, North Korea or any other real or potential enemy of the United States or the West. That is what makes him one of the most dangerous presidents the U.S. has ever had. As another posted stated, a bully will push until someone pushes back. Obama is not a pusher. He is an accommodator. He thinks one can negotiate with an enemy and that talk will solve all problems. He is naive, weak and will inevitably be ousted in a landslide in 2012 – if his vision of America has not destroyed the country by then. Pray for us!

    • Rolland Miller

      You are out to lunch. It is people like you that make the world fight each other. We should of evolved from WAR to negotiating an outcome suitable to each party. That is the way businessmen solve things. Make your opposite a friend, then we all win.
      I am a 66 year old financier who has done business all over the world.

      • ster

        Negotiate? LOL.
        There are some people you can negotiate with (Libya, et al…)
        But you are foolish to think that everyone can be negotiated with.
        Gee, you are old enough to know the history of the treaty signed with Hitler, no? Poland, Czech all negotiated and signed a peace treaty with Hitler. How well did that work out?

        There are evil people and regimes in the world. Some can be negotiated with, some cannot. We HAD to force the bankruptcy and collapse of the USSR, they would not negotiate.

        WAKE UP!

      • ster

        "negotiating an outcome suitable to each party."

        The only outcome suitable for Hitler was the complete takeover of several countries.
        Rolland, sometimes there are those that cannot be negotiated with. Heck, take bin Laden. Negotiate? Sure, if you want to kill all the jews and turn the US in a 3rd world country with Islamic rule and law. Is that suitable to you?

      • wafer

        Roland, we know how businessmen solve things ie: the economic situation we now find ourselves in. Negotiation is not an option for all situations, If you are what/who you say you are you should know that since you have been exposed to the world community.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/Jack_Mitchell Jack Mitchell

    GDP (IMF figures for 2008, millions)
    Poland: 527 866
    Ukraine: 179 604
    Romania: 200 074
    Slovakia: 95 404
    Czech Republic: 216 354
    Hungary: 155 930
    Latvia: 34 054
    Lithuania: 47 404
    Estonia: 23 232
    Georgia: 12 870
    Russia: 1 676 586

    GDP Total, non-Russian: 1 492 792, i.e. not quite $1.5 trillion.
    GDP Total, Russia: 1.676 586, i.e. not quite $1.7 trillion.

    Remind me why they need our help again?

  • http://www.courtroomgame.com Jimmy

    Q – Why is Obama bowing to despots?

    A – He's among his own, like-minded people.

    But I don't consider Putin a "despot." Obama's withdrawal of the planned missile shield doesn't have anything to do with Russia, he simply doesn't like the US or the US military. Obama is not friendly or unfriendly vis-a-vis Russia. The man is clueless. He's playing golf, watching himself on TV and collecting "Peace" prizes. He's an idiot in foreign policy.

    All he knows about Russia, is maybe he thinks they did communism wrong, and this time, he's going to it right in the US, without making Russia's mistakes.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/SisyphusThis SisyphusThis

    Jeez, Mr. Petrou. Ya still cleaning Wolfowitz's bathroom ?

  • Mary Jones

    Maccabeus – I agree with your comment…Obama Barack will prove to be the most dangerous president of the US at a National level and at a global level..– His betrayal of the Eastern Europeans countries to appease Russia is disgusting.. my father fought in the Second World War to give me/us a free world..
    He fought to defend the weak.. that is a man in my book and in our case a wonderful catholic christian dad…
    Obama Barack has proved already who and what he is .. this latest turning his back on the weak .. while bowing to Russia will define him… and guess what Russia is laughing all the way… with 'we did it.. finally an American president who'll bow to us.. way to go Obama.."

    Thankfully soon he can be got our of office.

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