Your willingness to deliberately take a discussion down the nearest convenient rabbit hole to sidetrack the substance of the discussion is quite remarkable.

Another example: Nowhere did I imply or suggest that I would turn to feds or the provicne for snow clearing. That, too, is deliberately intended to introduce into the argument a nonsequiter to distract form the real point, which is that municipal councils are incapable of doing anything menaingful – when necessary – to punish or deter bad behaviour when the "bad guy" is the biggest local employer.

What does it fix?

Governments get more revenue (They need it)
Environment gets help (Quite simple – we cut back when it gets more expensive – Myself I'd rather see the government paying back some of their debt with the increased price than Oil Execs lining their pockets from high oil – Oil prices would likely stay around the same price per Bbl with a higher tax)
Economy gets help – As transportation becomes more expensive the costs of shipping goes up making local suppliers more competitive. Staycations – housing renos – more fuel efficient cars – alternate energy all become more feasible and jobs come with that.
Income tax cuts at the lower level become possible as the shift goes to consumption taxes putting more money in peoples pockets to chose how to spend.

If we want tougher environmental legislation, just on general principles, then sure lets have it. But why do we have to discuss everything through this false framework of global "climate change"? Not even the high priests of this new religion can be bothered to follow the dogma they are trying to impose.

Of course the locals can't resist anything the ChiComs are doing because they don't have property rights or any other kind of rights. ChiComs are the State and can do whatever the hell they want. Locals would do a far better job of keeping their area clean if they were actually allowed to.

And what's your solution to municipalities being unable to clean streets of snow? Put the prov or feds in charge of snow removal. Do you think snow removal would improve if there was a Fed ministry for clean streets.

I guess I am always surprised by the useful idjits who are quick to defend Communists.

Yet another big broken promise from Harper.

Yet another big broken promise no one will call him on.

Observant, your logic sucks.

The quote you pulled is about investment – in other words, looking forward and capitlaizing on the inevitable wave of the future. China is apparently doing that in order to profit.

Your imagery also belies your assertion that locals will always take care of their surroundings better than bureaucrats. Do the locals look capable of resisting anything? And, in my personal experience, local municipal councils are inherently incapable of plowing roads effeiciently, let alone making hard decisions that might potentially possibly cause the largest local employer to look elsewhere for a factory location.

When and why did the Conservatives determine that Canada's energy policies will be drafted in Washington, DC?
When and why did the Conservatives determine that Canada's environmental policies will be drafted in Washington, DC?
When and why did the Conservatives determine that Canada's industrial policies will be drafted in Washington, DC?
When and why did the Conservatives determine that Canada's technology investment policies will be drafted in Washington, DC?

And, when did Canadians decide this is all okay?

Well that is certainly believable, I agree with you there.

And while we are on it, you know, Canada on its own is never going to defeat terrorism or world poverty or piracy or a whole of host of global problems, so why bother, right? That's what you are saying?

Meanwhile the Chinese, who are now the largest GHG emitters, represent 25% of global GHGs … and are forecast to increase their GHG emissions by 10% annually …. which amounts to a 2.5% to global GHG emissions … OR … their increase represents Canada's total GHG output …!!!!!

Maybe Suzuki, Gore and all the Liberal and NDP fearmongers should relocate to China and traumatize their population instead of scaring the bejeezuz out of Canadian women and children … putting them on a massive guilt trip over Canada's measly GHGs …. and telling them that our GHGs represent the "tipping point" amount that will plunge the planet into an overheated hell for our children and their children.

http://www.worldwatch.org/node/41

Clearly, Ignatieff was not comparing the environmental pollution record of China, but their financing of future energy technologies.

"For all the Liberal talk about the environment, they have done nothing to clean up the environment here in Canada. They… can't seem to get anything done to help people here at home. A Conservative government will implement a "made-in-Canada" plan focused on ensuring future generations enjoy air, clean water, clean land, and clean energy here in Canada. A Conservative government will … address the issue of greenhouse gas emissions, such as carbon dioxide (CO2), with a made-in-Canada plan."

Is this the "made-in-Canada" plan they promised Canadians?

Is this the "made-in-Canada" plan they promised Canadians that would already be "reducing carbon emissions by 2010"???

These clowns will say anything and do anything to keep power.

http://www.chinahush.com/2009/10/21/amazing-pictu…

wtf? What is with Libs and their love of the ChiComs. I just posted this somewhere else but I put it here for everyone to see how great ChiComs are with the environment.

Keeping the government out of the environmental stewardship business is absolutely the best thing we can do for the environment. Communist countries – former or current – are easily the most polluted places on earth. Locals always take care of their surroundings better then some half wit bureaucrats hundreds of miles away.